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Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by Nobody: 6:18pm On Feb 15, 2019
This thread is going to stir a little controversy and perhaps incur the ire of some of my atheist ‘friends’; however, I bear no ill will to any one, this is just an expression of the frustration of many free thinkers like myself, who are tired of the lack of originality inherent in the black African.
Our foundation is being eroded and yet we are asleep and sleep walking into an abyss of cultural genocide. We esteem the work and theology of the white man better than our own way of life. We are unaware that these concepts we keep accepting and living out, were designed with sinister intent, to eradicate the black man's foundation and prevent him from advancing spiritually, economically and politically.

Our resident atheists (I love them) have latched onto the flying spaghetti monster idea, which is a WHITE MAN's concept, and absorbed all the theology behind it to offer an alternative to abusive religion in Africa. The reason is understandable, but the question is, why do we have to borrow this concept and introduce it into our culture? It is certainly not designed for our welfare or betterment and in many cases promotes a racist superiority ideology.

Then we have black Muslims who are more fanatical than the Arab founders of Islam and have embraced this ancient ideology to the retrogression of their economic, social, spiritual and cultural wellbeing. They live a 6th century Arab man's life and call it religion , when it is more of a supremacist political ideology than a religion. They accept the Koran with the same faith that Christians have for their bible and will hate, denounce or even kill their own families who show signs of disagreement with its message. What is this? Another case of the FOLLOW FOLLOW BLACK MAN. The Arabs are the most racist people to the blacks, we all know it, but hey, who cares - we have no originality , so we will just tag along.

Then we come to the super duper of the LOT. WHITE JESUS. This white Jesus has been responsible for the death of millions and rampant shedding of blood over a Millennia in the name of their Jewish Messiah, the same messiah that the Jews reject. Nigerians are shameless when it comes to WHITE JESUS, the same SHI.T that was introduced at a time when blacks were enslaved, colonized , oppressed and humiliated , - complete with bible verses to back up their actions is the same SHI.T that has darkened our continent and promoted laziness, procrastination, superstition and division.

How about the BLACK MAN come up with something ORIGINAL for his race, something that promotes the belief in a God or concept that promotes the peaceful co-existence of the African black man and facilitates his/her economic, political and social prosperity.
What about something ORIGINAL than represents the BLACK RACE, and that wipes away the stigma of our shame and humiliation. When will we ever become ORIGINAL and abandon all these useless foreign concepts and start to embrace our own peculiarities and form a national identity that future generations will be proud of ?

Something like AFRICANISM as FELA suggested ??
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by morpheus24:
frosbel2:
This thread is going to stir a little controversy and perhaps incur the ire of some of my atheist ‘friends’; however, I bear no ill will to any one, this is just an expression of the frustration of many free thinkers like myself, who are tired of the lack of originality inherent in the black African.
Our foundation is being eroded and yet we are asleep and sleep walking into an abyss of cultural genocide. We esteem the work and theology of the white man better than our own way of life. We are unaware that these concepts we keep accepting and living out, were designed with sinister intent, to eradicate the black man's foundation and prevent him from advancing spiritually, economically and politically.

Our resident atheists (I love them) have latched onto the flying spaghetti monster idea, which is a WHITE MAN's concept, and absorbed all the theology behind it to offer an alternative to abusive religion in Africa. The reason is understandable, but the question is, why do we have to borrow this concept and introduce it into our culture? It is certainly not designed for our welfare or betterment and in many cases promotes a racist superiority ideology.

Then we have black Muslims who are more fanatical than the Arab founders of Islam and have embraced this ancient ideology to the retrogression of their economic, social, spiritual and cultural wellbeing. They live a 6th century Arab man's life and call it religion , when it is more of a supremacist political ideology than a religion. They accept the Koran with the same faith that Christians have for their bible and will hate, denounce or even kill their own families who show signs of disagreement with its message. What is this? Another case of the FOLLOW FOLLOW BLACK MAN. The Arabs are the most racist people to the blacks, we all know it, but hey, who cares - we have no originality , so we will just tag along.

Then we come to the super duper of the LOT. WHITE JESUS. This white Jesus has been responsible for the death of millions and rampant shedding of blood over a Millennia in the name of their Jewish Messiah, the same messiah that the Jews reject. Nigerians are shameless when it comes to WHITE JESUS, the same SHI.T that was introduced at a time when blacks were enslaved, colonized , oppressed and humiliated , - complete with bible verses to back up their actions is the same SHI.T that has darkened our continent and promoted laziness, procrastination, superstition and division.

How about the BLACK MAN come up with something ORIGINAL for his race, something that promotes the belief in a God or concept that promotes the peaceful co-existence of the African black man and facilitates his/her economic, political and social prosperity.
What about something ORIGINAL than represents the BLACK RACE, and that wipes away the stigma of our shame and humiliation. When will we ever become ORIGINAL and abandon all these useless foreign concepts and start to embrace our own peculiarities and form a national identity that future generations will be proud of ?

Something like AFRICANISM as FELA suggested ??
The Yoruba pantheons are original what are you talking about?
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by MrPresident1: 11:33pm On Feb 15, 2019
frosbel2:
This thread is going to stir a little controversy and perhaps incur the ire of some of my atheist ‘friends’; however, I bear no ill will to any one, this is just an expression of the frustration of many free thinkers like myself, who are tired of the lack of originality inherent in the black African.
Our foundation is being eroded and yet we are asleep and sleep walking into an abyss of cultural genocide. We esteem the work and theology of the white man better than our own way of life. We are unaware that these concepts we keep accepting and living out, were designed with sinister intent, to eradicate the black man's foundation and prevent him from advancing spiritually, economically and politically.

Our resident atheists (I love them) have latched onto the flying spaghetti monster idea, which is a WHITE MAN's concept, and absorbed all the theology behind it to offer an alternative to abusive religion in Africa. The reason is understandable, but the question is, why do we have to borrow this concept and introduce it into our culture? It is certainly not designed for our welfare or betterment and in many cases promotes a racist superiority ideology.

Then we have black Muslims who are more fanatical than the Arab founders of Islam and have embraced this ancient ideology to the retrogression of their economic, social, spiritual and cultural wellbeing. They live a 6th century Arab man's life and call it religion , when it is more of a supremacist political ideology than a religion. They accept the Koran with the same faith that Christians have for their bible and will hate, denounce or even kill their own families who show signs of disagreement with its message. What is this? Another case of the FOLLOW FOLLOW BLACK MAN. The Arabs are the most racist people to the blacks, we all know it, but hey, who cares - we have no originality , so we will just tag along.

Then we come to the super duper of the LOT. WHITE JESUS. This white Jesus has been responsible for the death of millions and rampant shedding of blood over a Millennia in the name of their Jewish Messiah, the same messiah that the Jews reject. Nigerians are shameless when it comes to WHITE JESUS, the same SHI.T that was introduced at a time when blacks were enslaved, colonized , oppressed and humiliated , - complete with bible verses to back up their actions is the same SHI.T that has darkened our continent and promoted laziness, procrastination, superstition and division.

How about the BLACK MAN come up with something ORIGINAL for his race, something that promotes the belief in a God or concept that promotes the peaceful co-existence of the African black man and facilitates his/her economic, political and social prosperity.
What about something ORIGINAL than represents the BLACK RACE, and that wipes away the stigma of our shame and humiliation. When will we ever become ORIGINAL and abandon all these useless foreign concepts and start to embrace our own peculiarities and form a national identity that future generations will be proud of ?

Something like AFRICANISM as FELA suggested ??
Sango!
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by rekinomtla(m): 8:31am On Feb 16, 2019
I got the perfect solution for you - Black Jesus. grin to see how this would work, do some research on the "Black Hebrew Israelites" movement.
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by Nobody: 1:09pm On Feb 16, 2019
rekinomtla:
I got the perfect solution for you - Black Jesus. grin to see how this would work, do some research on the "Black Hebrew Israelites" movement.
Not that either - Black Jesus is a figment of imagination in the minds of oppressed African Americans.
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by Nobody: 1:10pm On Feb 16, 2019
MrPresident1:
Sango!
What about Sango ?
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by rekinomtla(m): 1:21pm On Feb 16, 2019
frosbel2:
Not that either - Black Jesus is a figment of imagination in the minds of oppressed African Americans.
White Jesus is also a figment of imagination. What do you want blacks to do exactly? Make up a God or prophet that they can claim as their own?
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by MrPresident1: 1:28pm On Feb 16, 2019
frosbel2:
What about Sango ?
2 Samuel 22:14-15
The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice.
15 And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them.
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by Nobody: 1:43pm On Feb 16, 2019
rekinomtla:
White Jesus is also a figment of imagination. What do you want blacks to do exactly? Make up a God or prophet that they can claim as their own?
Weird question. Are you seriously telling me that the black man had to wait for whites and arabs to teach them about god and religion ?

How can we make up a god when we believed in god for millennia and according to our cultures. Obviously I am not saying we should go back to ancient ways of worshipping, rather we should shun foreign religions that have undermined our culture, history and people. What is wrong with just believing in God ?
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by Nobody: 1:46pm On Feb 16, 2019
MrPresident1:
2 Samuel 22:14-15
The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice.
15 And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them.
I like your ingenuity.

Useful article about Sango HERE

But you cannot reconcile Sango to white Jesus - it just will not work
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by MrPresident1: 1:53pm On Feb 16, 2019
frosbel2:
I like your ingenuity.

Useful article about Sango HERE

But you cannot reconcile Sango to white Jesus - it just will not work
lol
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by rekinomtla(m): 2:10pm On Feb 16, 2019
frosbel2:
Weird question. Are you seriously telling me that the black man had to wait for whites and arabs to teach them about god and religion ?

How can we make up a god when we believed in god for millennia and according to our cultures. Obviously I am not saying we should go back to ancient ways of worshipping, rather we should shun foreign religions that have undermined our culture, history and people. What is wrong with just believing in God ?
You don't want us to "just" believe in God. You want us to believe in a creator that is somehow connected to african culture and history - the Black man's God.
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by Nobody: 3:20pm On Feb 16, 2019
rekinomtla:
You don't want us to "just" believe in God. You want us to believe in a creator that is somehow connected to african culture and history - the Black man's God.
Did the black man have his own gods/god before the arrival or Christianity and Islam ?
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by rekinomtla(m): 3:46pm On Feb 16, 2019
frosbel2:
Did the black man have his own gods/god before the arrival or Christianity and Islam ?
Yes but do you believe in them?
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by Nobody: 6:32pm On Feb 16, 2019
rekinomtla:
Yes but do you believe in them?
I believe in the God that my ancestors believed in called Chineke ( God who creates ) or Chinedu ( God who leads ) etc etc. Yahweh or Jehovah are not names attributed to God by my people.
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by rekinomtla(m): 6:49pm On Feb 16, 2019
frosbel2:
I believe in the God that my ancestors believed in called Chineke ( God who creates ) or Chinedu ( God who leads ) etc etc. Yahweh or Jehovah are not names attributed to God by my people.
Then there's your answer, believe what your ancestors believed.
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by Nobody: 6:39am On Feb 17, 2019
rekinomtla:
Then there's your answer, believe what your ancestors believed.
What was your point again ?
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by correctguy101(m): 7:25am On Feb 17, 2019
frosbel2:
I believe in the God that my ancestors believed in called Chineke ( God who creates ) or Chinedu ( God who leads) etc etc. Yahweh or Jehovah are not names attributed to God by my people.
Just got to know the real meaning of the bolded.. Their actual meaning is lost to many people.
They will just tell you Chineke means God and worse is they'll misrepresent that with Yahweh or Allah.

I wonder what Oghene really means. I resonate more with the Yoruba spirituality, maybe it's cos I was birthed in their land.
But why disturb one's self about the gods and their business? People get too much time, I guess .... $mh
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by rekinomtla(m): 8:22am On Feb 17, 2019
frosbel2:
What was your point again ?
If you want something original, connected to your culture and history, go back to the traditional beliefs of your ancestors. Nothing is more original than that.
Re: Black Africans And Their Lack Of Religious Originality by raphieMontella: 9:08am On Feb 17, 2019
frosbel2:
Did the black man have his own gods/god before the arrival or Christianity and Islam ?
yes,, the Yoruba pantheons...and I think the Igbo's had their chi too
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