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OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Melian(f): 8:42am On Mar 02, 2019
JOHN OLUFEMI KUSA

I am a yoruba and I condemn all forms of electoral malpractice,including ballot box snatching on election day.The yorubas are an intelligent people with their own fair share of rascals.There are many intelligent and creative ways open to the yorubas to deal with the igbo question in Lagos or elsewhere.Chief Obafemi Awolowo dealt with it when Dr Nnamdi Azikwe abused the generousity of the yorubas and attempted to take over their land as the Dutchmen took over Southern Africa.


The yorubas also dealt with this question intelligently when Biafran soldiers tried to invade the West from Ore,after overrunning Bendel state with the aid of igbo connections there.At different fora where the Igbo question in Lagos comes up,I always invite the igbos to remember that the yorubas have always been their best friends in Nigeria.


The yoruba leader of the 1950s,HERBERT MACAULAY,founded the NCNC (National council for Nigerians and the Cameroons).When Macaulay died following an illness during his nationwide campaign for independence,wasn't it the yoruba NCNC leadership which invited Dr Nnamdi Azikwe and igbo, to return home from Ghana and lead their party?And when he held their hand in the soup pot,to bar them from having the meal they prepared ,didn't they peacefully and intelligently show him the way back to the east?


Yorubas were generous and trustful.Dr Azikwe insulted their sensibility,abused their generousity and trust.Why would he,an igbo,wish to be premier of the West and then install an igbo,as premier of the east when the yorubas at that time had more literate people than the igbos?That was cunning,greed and betrayal of trust to say the least.We were all fighting to send the white man away and, after we had succeeded,you wished to impose local igbo colonialism on a better educated Yoruba race.Who would have accepted that?


Secondly,I remind my igbo friends that,after the civil war ,their properties in the North,Port Harcourt ,Cross River and Akwa Ibom States,their present political allies,were seized from them as "abandoned" property and handed out to the aborigenes.But in the latest,igbo property were all returned with all the rent which accrued to them.Were the yorubas stupid or merely civilised ,honest and friendly or,if you like,God fearing?

OKOTA BALLOT BOX
As I said in the first part ,the snatching of ballot boxes after all the warnings by government was unecessary,crude,condemnable and punishable.If the yorubas condemn it elsewhere ,they should condemn it also in Okota.But after the condemnation and necessary punishment under the law,it will not be right for all of us to not get to the bottom of why it happened and the bigger problems which are brewing beneath this cause if the surface and deep -lining causes are not addressed.

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Melian(f): 8:43am On Mar 02, 2019
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The major problem ,in my opinion,is the igbo penchant to wish to take over another person's land.I say this with all sense of responsibility.


Recently MOFE OYATOGUN of STAR 101.5FM radio station in Lagos played her EARLY RUSH SHOW ,a 1952 audio clip of an interview with Ahmadu Bello,Governor of Northern Nigeria.He said unequivocally that the North would not employ igbos in its civil service,because if you gave them an inch,you will not know when they would take a mile.That was way back in 1952,about 67 years ago.Is this not what is still playing out today in South Africa ,Benin Republic ,cote d'ivoire,Ghana,Libya and China,to mention a few countries?


In last Saturday's presidential election,president Mohammed Buhari probably won landslide victories in Northern states because that Ahmadu Bello radio interview clip went viral in that political labdscapr.Peter Obi,an igbo,was vice presidential running mate to Alhaji Abubakar Atiku,a fulani from the North east.It was possible the north still lived in fear of the igbo man as Ahmadu Bello had taught them to do and as they were reminded in that audio clup replay.


In yorubaland,we are a society governed by laws.That is why we have ministries of chieftaincy affairs.All the land in Lagos have owners.Lagos was either a colony or a part of Western Nigeria.But because of the generousity of yorubas and the foresight of their forefathers which made this region the star region in West Africa,the igbos would like the yorubaman to believe that LAGOS IS NO MAN'S LAND.Can anyone say that of Benin without eating his pounded yam as raw yam?


Can the igbos say that of Kano and Jos?The people there know how to make themselves husbands of the mothers of the territorial expansionist.Everywhere on earth,we have seen that territorial expansion ends in chaos.In recent history,we can pin the two world wars to it.What about the war in Liberia between the aborigens and the settled slaves?What about Rwanda?What about Hitler's war on the jews ?What about the liberation wars in South Africa,Zimbabwe and Mozambique.Why did general Idi Amin of Uganda chase away the Asians?Why did Bangladesh separate from India,eritea from Ethiopia and Senegal from SeneGambia?What about the communual clashes over land in Nigeria?Recently,almost 100 fulanis were killed in Kaduna.We cannot forget the zango-kataf problem.

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Melian(f): 8:44am On Mar 02, 2019
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So,we should be carerul When you come to settle on my land and say you must represent me in the Nigerian senate or the house of representatives,or the Lagos State House of Assembly taking away from me my aboriginal right to have my kith,kindred and blood represent me,while back home you are being represented in the senate and House of Reps,when you insist on becoming a commisioner in my state or a deputy governor,or a local government chairman when you try to govern me in my own land as Dr Nnamdi Azikwe once tried to do,all because I was generous to let you become in my land what you couldn't become in your land,simply because you believe you have the numbers,I will tell you that is greed and unnatural irrespective of the backing of the law you may think you have.


Think,for example,about an igbo becoming the chairman of Lagos island local government and arrogating to himself the right under the laws of Nigeria and of Lagos state to issue instructions to the oba of Lagos about how the kabiyesi should conduct himself and govern his people.What will this breed?
That is what has been happening in countries from where the igbos are being sent back home.It happened once in the North as Ahmadu Bello said in 1952.And seriously speaking,I believe this is why the North rejected Atiku Abubakar.



The igbos should reflect on this..."Why does everyone tend to (hate )us?"




JIMI AGBAJE/AFENIFERE
The igbos should be wary of JIMI AGBAJE and AFENIFERE.They are politicians who are looking for ethnic heads to break coconuts on.


The igbos are hardworking and resourceful and should try to overcome ethnic politics as the yorubas have done.They should learn from immigrants from other lands worldwide.The Indians do not trouble their hosts or try to take over their lands.They makw their money quietly and take it back home to develop their own land.That is why India has bwen able to lift herself from poverty.In contrast,the igbos do not develop their own lands.All thwy do is largely to make money from abroad through whichever or whatever means and buy up property which other people have built and then claim they own the land without remembering that they can never hold aboriginal rights to the land in their hands whenever the chips come down.



Meanwhile, their land back home is languid,crying and shouting for investment and development and they begin to talk about marginalisation.Did they not flower and fruit under Obasanjo and Jonathan's administrations? What happened to igbo land in those 16 years that they were not marginalised?What happened to yoruba land in those 16 years that the yorubas were marginalised that yoruba land still continued to be a honey pot for the igbo?
I would go anyday with chief Emeka Anyaoku who looks at the world with universal spectacles.


Succeeding Lagos government have beautifully held the ethnic balance in Lagos and prevented ethnic disturbances.Igbos should stop saying they own Lagos or that they built Lagos or that Lagos is a "no man's land" only a bastard yorubaman will not feel affronted by such statements.And in spiritual terms,the man or woman who cannot defend his land is not fit to live.Wasn't this the failure of the sons of the incas?



It is good news that the leaders of the igbos and other nationalities in Nigeria have met with the traditional leaders of the yorubas in Okota and Oshodi areas to avert a backlash in respect of last Saturday's events.As I said earlier,Agbaje and Afenifere are outside the mainstream of yoruba politics They are trying to take control of it.And they have the right to so aspire,being yorubas.What is objectionable to the mainstream yoruba is their attempt to knock the heads of the igbo against the head of the mainstream yorubas.They remind the yorubas of a similar affront by Afonja,the yoruba army commander in Ilorin who was sent there by the Alaafin of Oyo to stop jihadist expansion.Afonja betrayed the Alaafin and invited the jihadists to defend its betrayal.


They did and Afonja triumphed momentarily only to be killed afterwards by the jihadists who took over the land.The perception in Yorubaland today is that the igbo in Lagos especially are the modern jihadists and that Agbaje and Afenifere are the modern Afonjas.This is the underlying perception which ,in my opinion,triggered the surface reaction in Okota last Saturday.The yorubas remain an accomodating people.But they never fail to rise in their defence when they have to,as they did in the 1950s in respect of Dr Azikwe's blatant attempt to usurp their land and as they also did at Ore during the civil war.

.....John Olufemi Kusa

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by gbeseun(m): 9:36am On Mar 02, 2019
Word.
If they like they hear,else they will feel the heat and pack their bags back to anambra and nnewi market.

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Mayor08: 9:48am On Mar 02, 2019
I'm glad we are waking up..I'm an indigene, my dad from ibeju-lekki and my mum awori from oregun....i am determined to take a stand, you can't tell me shit you can't take and start quoting the constitution for me in my ancestral land...calling my ancestral land a no man's land...what effontry..I'm glad people are now woke...I watched an interview of one of the chief in Lagos and the question pulped up, he said steps are on going

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by anthony86(m): 9:56am On Mar 02, 2019
Another tribalist and ethnic jingoistic the World is moving fast and have pass the era of tribal warlords and cheifdoms.

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Balkan(m): 10:11am On Mar 02, 2019
Mayor08:
I'm glad we are waking up..I'm an indigene, my dad from ibeju-lekki and my mum awori from oregun....i am determined to take a stand, you can't tell me shit you can't take and start quoting the constitution for me in my ancestral land...calling my ancestral land a no man's land...what effontry..I'm glad people are now woke...I watched an interview of one of the chief in Lagos and the question pulped up, he said steps are on going
my friend this one Nigeria. Wether you like or not an lgbo man would be elected on Saturday to be part of the people who will make laws for Lagos State.

Igbos have elected members in other country's parliament and those countries have not complained. No propaganda will make this not to happen.

Lagos has more Igbos living in it more than any tribe apart from the Aworis the original aborigins of Lagos State.

Your misery is just beginning. Thank God majority of Yorubas are now relocating to Ogun state after selling their land to Igbos. I give you only 20yrs, lgbos will produce the governor of Lagos State.

Tell Tinubu to go back to his state. He is not a Lgosian. We are voting for Jimi and Jimi will pursue you ogbomosho parasite back to your respective villages.

Lagos for Lagosians and lgbos who developed it.

I watched an interview of one of the chief in Lagos and the question pulped up, he said steps are on going
l am sure this your Chief will be the first to sell his father's grave when he sees money

Sanwa_Olu is not from Lagos State

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Ojiofor: 10:14am On Mar 02, 2019
If only Yoruba people led by Awo had allowed Igbos to remain in their Biafra after they left Lagos in 1966/7,today his descendants won't be wailing uncontrollably every election year with agony and sadness over the intimidating presence of Ndi Igbo in Lagos state. One Nigeria is our next level.

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by ticon4life(m): 10:26am On Mar 02, 2019
The earlier the Yorubas checkmate igbos in Lagos the better.

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by bastardmod: 10:29am On Mar 02, 2019
ticon4life:
The earlier the Yorubas checkmate igbos in Lagos the better.

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Mayor08: 10:36am On Mar 02, 2019
Balkan:
my friend this one Nigeria. Wether you like or not an lgbo man would be elected on Saturday to be part of the people who will make laws for Lagos State.

Igbos have elected members in other country's parliament and those countries have not complained. No propaganda will make this not to happen.

Lagos has more Igbos living in it more than any tribe apart from the Aworis the original aborigins of Lagos State.

Your misery is just beginning. Thank God majority of Yorubas are now relocating to Ogun state after selling their land to Igbos. I give you only 20yrs, lgbos will produce the governor of Lagos State.

Tell Tinubu to go back to his state. He is not a Lgosian. We are voting for Jimi and Jimi will pursue you ogbomosho parasite back to your respective villages.

Lagos for Lagosians and lgbos who developed it.

l am sure this your Chief will be the first to sell his father's grave when he sees money

Sanwa_Olu is not from Lagos State

You sound like a troll...I'm from Lagos, my dad from ibeju-lekki and my mum an awori from Lagos....all what you said sounds childish and as such needs no response

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Balkan(m): 10:41am On Mar 02, 2019
Mayor08:


You sound like a troll...I'm from Lagos, my dad from ibeju-lekki and my mum an awori from Lagos....all what you said sounds childish and as such needs no response
every villger from Yoruba land claims Lagos now that Igbos have developed it. You are from ogbomosho! You think l don't know. Go back to your village and live Lagos alone. There is nothing one will not see in this Lagos.

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Nobody: 10:41am On Mar 02, 2019
Igbos this igbos that... Notherners are killing themselves in hundreds... yoroubas should not start same in South.

Don't think you will kill a man and they would fold their hand watching you. The last thing an igbo man will do is to attack first...

Even after Jos indigines killed Fulanis in their land ....what is happening today. They are running helter shelter because it might take time but the revenge will return ..

Go and watch Lagos map and see that South East invading South West is easy as Abcd...

Let the hate end in words and never actions.

Find another way to claim your land than useless physical attack...

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by nabiz(m): 10:41am On Mar 02, 2019
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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by mightyokwy(m): 10:51am On Mar 02, 2019
She made mention of Indians making money and travel back to their country but failed to mention that they are not Nigerians. Igbos are Nigerians and the law gives them the right to participate in a electoral process in Lagos state. If you don't like it go to court to challenge that law that makes them Nigerians. Just like the oil in the ss and se belong to Nigerians, lagos belong to us all. I encourage igbos to come to turn up in mass coming saturday to exercise their right.

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Mayor08: 10:57am On Mar 02, 2019
0balufonlll:


Oregun, where the 'butty' & the 'street' mix. I miss that neighbourhood. I remember Yoruba & Igbos having several clashes out there that never actually degenerated into full blown conflicts.

Omo Eko, please put your feet on the grounds & call shots on your own land. Other Yoruba peoples are behind you gidigba.
Lol....no lele...where in oregun did you stay?

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Melian(f): 11:06am On Mar 02, 2019
Mayor08:
I'm glad we are waking up..I'm an indigene, my dad from ibeju-lekki and my mum awori from oregun....i am determined to take a stand, you can't tell me shit you can't take and start quoting the constitution for me in my ancestral land...calling my ancestral land a no man's land...what effontry..I'm glad people are now woke...I watched an interview of one of the chief in Lagos and the question pulped up, he said steps are on going


My dad is from ibeju, my mum oke suna. A revolution is coming soon, push has come to shove and we say enough. The eeebos have beaten more than they can chew.

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Xander85: 11:11am On Mar 02, 2019
mightyokwy:
She made mention of Indians making money and travel back to their country but failed to mention that they are not Nigerians. Igbos are Nigerians and the law gives them the right to participate in a electoral process in Lagos state. If you don't like it go to court to challenge that law that makes them Nigerians. Just like the oil in the ss and se belong to Nigerians, lagos belong to us all. I encourage igbos to come to turn up in mass coming saturday to exercise their right.

These guys are so paranoid....not to mention, two-faced!

If they're tired of 'one Nigeria', then join IPOB to agitate for a referendum to determine it's future!

All this Igbo-this-Igbo-that is all about the Lagos elections and their fear Igbos may vote en-mass for Agbaje (a Yoruba man oh) thereby loosening their godfathers' monkey-fist grip on the Lagos treasury!

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Xander85: 11:14am On Mar 02, 2019
Melian:



My dad is from ibeju, my mum oke suna. A revolution is coming soon, push has come to shove and we say enough. The eeebos have beaten more than they can chew.

Shut up! Besides voting and being voted for in Lagos, how have 'eeebos beaten more than they can chew'....you this nasty, bigoted semi-illiterate!?

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Mayor08: 11:15am On Mar 02, 2019
Melian:



My dad is from ibeju, my mum oke suna. A revolution is coming soon, push has come to shove and we say enough. The eeebos have beaten more than they can chew.

I'm just happy we are now realising..doing anyhow and saying it to your face...my dad is from use in ibeju-lekki..my family is also linked to the throne there

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by mightyokwy(m): 11:17am On Mar 02, 2019
Xander85:


These guys are so paranoid....not to mention, two-faced!

If they're tired of 'one Nigeria', then join IPOB to agitate for a referendum to determine it's future!

All this Igbo-this-Igbo-that is all about the Lagos elections and their fear Igbos may vote en-mass fof Agbaje (a Yoruba man oh) thereby loosening their godfathers' monkey-fist grip on the Lagos treasury!
That's their business. If them like make them make Tibubu their god. It's non of my business. But my stand is that no yoruba man will force me to go against my concience. Them never born am. As far as lagos remain part of Nigeria i have equal right with any maga that make noise about lagos

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by D2ru2hwil(m): 11:24am On Mar 02, 2019
The Igbo's are not taking over your lands but you Yoruba's are politically violent to other tribes when the other tribes ideologies defers from you Yoruba's in your land. We should be one

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by 0balufonlll: 11:28am On Mar 02, 2019
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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by bastardmod: 11:32am On Mar 02, 2019
Rubbish.

Anyways... Not my fault grin

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Melian(f): 11:34am On Mar 02, 2019
Xander85:


Shut up! Besides voting and being voted for in Lagos, how have 'eeebos beaten more than they can chew'....you this nasty, bigoted semi-illiterate!?

Funny. Real igbo men are grovelling at their feet, pleading for mercy..for their lives. The cowards are on Nairaland, puffing, sulking and chest-beating. Is this how your illiterate impoverished father brought you up?

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by 0balufonlll: 11:36am On Mar 02, 2019
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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by glacswhite: 11:45am On Mar 02, 2019
Hahahaha....only Igbo Women will wipe Away Yoruba..
Igbo Men fighting Yoruba is Insult to us..

Igbos are fighting Hausa Military Men with Guns n they Take Run .talkless of Yoruba Touts
Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by Xander85: 11:46am On Mar 02, 2019
0balufonlll:


LOL. Always needy. Never self-sufficient to pursue a course. If you want to be taken serious, recall your house of reps, senate officials. All your public office olders in the ministries or by appointments should quit & head back east. Every ibo should move back & all your ilks employed in the FG in one way or the other need to withdraw. Indicate your total lack of interest in Nigeria first & other regions will 'help' you with a leflendum. Don't pull Yoruba into your struggles, each region has its own destiny. Show us you are VERY serious about your Biafra destiny & not just Yoruba will help you, the whole world will.

Can't count the number of times i've heard you sneaky mofos use this line!

Last time we moved back en-mass to the east what happened? Didn't you nasty lot send your genocidal armies after us like Pharaoh sent his armies after the Israelites?

Recall our house of reps, bla-bla-bla....that's a bit premature, don't you think? Recall them, meanwhile you scheming bigots will still control our oyel and gas, and your thieving military, police and other officials will still be all over the east collecting customs and federally collected revenue....not to mention 'egunje' at roadblocks! Nice try!

How many more of our youth have to be murdered in cold blood by your trigger-happy and murderous army before you get the message we're sick and tired of sharing the same country with you scum? See this fool wanting to act like he doesn't know Ndigbo/Biafrans have been agitating for a separate existence from his bigoted and hateful arsse!

I can agree with your stand on Ndigbo returning back to the east and recalling their reps from the national assembly only if a date is fixed for a UN supervised referendum, and you get your leeching fingers off our oyel and gas! Shikena!

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Re: OKOTA: The Igbo Question, Jimi Agbaje, Afenifere And The Rest Of Us..part 2 by 0balufonlll: 11:47am On Mar 02, 2019
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