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futurism:
I hope so... I just hope so. As far this country is concerned, my own palava is job, industry, booming economy. Any president that cant provide that is certainly not my president... I don't care about integrity bullshiiitz, that thing has almost blocked my ears and bling my eyes lol

you are right, presently people dont care about corruption if the govt can provide basic needs

scribble:
how much to make Buhari and the brainless zombies who support him disappear

Come to Jibowu Lagos and catch a night bus to Duoloa or Yaounde Cameroon to be free from your misery.

wetdick:
you are right, presently people dont care about corruption if the govt can provide basic needs

Which govt,Federal,State or Local Government?go and find something to do to better your life,Lazy Goat I know you are still waiting for atiku?be innovative,go and create jobs for wealth creation.

ItsMeAboki:
I didn't say your 1st paragraph was out of context but naive, stupid and quite insulting.

Yes, you clearly implied there was not even a single northerner in the entire north with the capacity to lead modern Nigeria.

Your post reeked of stereotype, bigotry and simply lack of intelligence - which makes continuing such discussion with an intellectually challenged person like you a complete waste of because lack the capacity to understand the finer points at hand.

I doubt if you are educated beyond secondary school level and definitely well below par to the Buhari you are criticising.

I see... Until I see someone that can do better, then my views are not likely to change...

Thank you.

futurism:
I see... Until I see someone that can do better, then my views are not likely to change...

Thank you.

You are entitled to your silly myopic views; however, refrain from looking down on those ppl you consider uneducated and therefore unintelligent; because quite a lot of them seem even more intelligent than you - judging from the poor manner you have conducted yourself so far.

ItsMeAboki:
You are entitled to your silly myopic views; however, refrain from looking down on those ppl you consider uneducated and therefore unintelligent; because quite a lot of them seem even more intelligent than you - judging from the poor manner you have conducted yourself so far.

I have Northern friends, except the one from Kaduna, the rest like one from Kano were no match for me academically when were in school...

I don't look down on people and never will. We expect more from you guys. That is it. You clinch to power that doesn't reflect nada.

We have never been this divided until Buhari came because he chose to sideline others and out his kinsmen in top spots.

Like I said, I don't expect anything from him. There is nothing he will do now that will surprise me, unlike before when every appointment shocked me to the marrows because people who warned us not to vote him looked like prophet. I refused to listen to them cos I don't judge a man by his past.

He can do whatever he wants with the country but the North shouldn't complain should same be done to you.

rexwalters:
Which govt,Federal,State or Local Government?go and find something to do to better your life,Lazy Goat I know you are still waiting for atiku?be innovative,go and create jobs for wealth creation.

what is this one saying and what is my business with atiku.

For people to be creative and all the jargons you wrote, state,fed or local govt need to provide the basic needs in masclow pyramid of needs.

futurism:
I have Northern friends, except the one from Kaduna, the rest like one from Kano were no match for me academically when were in school...

I don't look down on people and never will. We expect more from you guys. That is it. You clinch to power that doesn't reflect nada.

We have never been this divided until Buhari came because he chose to sideline others and out his kinsmen in top spots.

Like I said, I don't expect anything from him. There is nothing he will do now that will surprise me, unlike before when every appointment shocked me to the marrows because people who warned us not to vote him looked like prophet. I refused to listen to them cos I don't judge a man by his past.

He can do whatever he wants with the country but the North shouldn't complain should same be done to you.

You keep contradicting yourself by not keeping track of your earlier statements as well as the implication of some of your choice of words.
Here you are now admitting you have northern friends who were academically more brilliant than you while in school; yet you seem to have forgotten that you already implied that northerners are illiterates and even challenged me to name one person among them with the capacity to rule modern Nigeria.
Yes, you were looking down on northerners; the above mentioned challenge you to me was a clear indication to that effect.

Buhari is not a perfect human being; he definitely has his shortcomings, both as a person and in his leadership; however, majority of Nigerians have chosen him to be their leader and many of them still feel sufficiently happy with him to continue for the second time.

Just because they held a different opinion to your own doesn't mean they are all together stupid and incapable of making rational choices even if a significant number among them are deemed illiterates; neither should you assume that your choice is more superior simply because you feel more educated.

Remember that we are living under a democracy; you therefore lern to accept the choice of the majority and not to insult them.

Let's be clear on one thing, with the way Nigeria is currently arranged, the SS, SE (the better south as you put it, though I laugh) and NC do not have the numbers to call for and fully actualise the restructuring of Nigeria constitutionally speaking. In the event of this, the only other realistic option is War and I dont think anyone in their right minds would want for a war. I believe Wars should always be a last resort when every other means have failed. For a restructuring to be fully realised a 4th region is needed, the same one I hail from the SW. I say SW because it will be difficult to get the NE or NW to buy into restructuring Nigeria for a variety of reasons some of which I shall touch on later.

It is very easy to point fingers as we all do, Yoruba to Igbo to Hausa and vice versa, but the truth is if the Nigerian people really did understand restructuring and what it meant to them on a personal level, I am certain the average man on the streets will support it wholeheartedly. Nigeria is not working and Nigeria will not work as it is currently constituted, it is not a curse, it is the truth. I believe that the only real solution to our collective problems is to either restructure Nigeria to have strong regions and a weak centre or to split Nigeria along it's current geopolitical lines (or something close).

You make a valid point about the North's exploding population. It is something that everyone, themselves including, ought to be seriously alarmed at because we are seeing the result of that explosive population growth (from 1930 till present) coupled with a clueless and reckless northern leadership (pre and post independence). This is why poverty and illiteracy is rife in the Northern part of Nigeria compared to the South. I totally agree that it would not only be unfair but it would be unjust for Northern Nigeria (core North) to expect (as they are doing now) the whole country to shoulder the burden that they continue to create.

How do we achieve the above, I still think it comes back to and starts with Unity between the SS, SE, SW and some NC states. As much as you can choose to disagree, and you have every right to your point of view hear me out first, keep reading.
The Afonjas or the SW, my people, that you take pleasure in deriding (deservedly in some cases, unfair in others) are key to the restructuring of Nigeria as it is constituted.
Why do I say this? Because the NW and NE are reluctant and will fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo hence the SS, SE and NC are basically stuck with the SW for this to come to light. I know for certain the average Yoruba will buy into this if they fully understand what it means to their everyday lives but the key challenge here is the SW (Not just the SW, the whole of Nigeria) currently lacks the kind of leaders needed for that to happen. The current crop of SW politicians are beholden to whatever keeps them in power and this applies to all politicians really regardless of party affinity. Politicians are a lying, thieving bunch who will stop at nothing to remain in power.
The voices supporting restructuring are usually in the opposition and groups such as Afenifere and a few others usually come across as suspicious (cos they are funded by the opposition party not in power) and dont really have the platform that is needed to sell such an agenda to the people. Traditional Rulers? Forget those ones, same old story, they'll get in bed with whoever butters their bread. And no longer are there social justice warriors or movements concerned with the good of the collective. Hence, the reason why the average Yoruba is dormant pertaining to the issue of restructuring.

I can also state with facts (not here, perhaps at another time) that the issue of restructuring has been so politicized that it is difficult to really identify who cares and who doesn't care about restructuring. When one political party is in power, the other cries restructuring and vice versa it's been like this since 1999. But pay a close attention to voting patterns since 1999 and you will see that Yorubas are actually flexible in their voting which means unlike just about any other region in the country, they can be persuaded to see the light on a matter such as restructuring but then again leadership.

But then again, let me also add that I think (I could be wrong) the voices from the SS and SE clamouring for restructuring became loudest just around the time GEJ lost his reelection bid. I am not saying these voices were not there before now, I am saying the tone became deafening. Now does that look suspect, I guess so. Will these same voices go mute if say PDP were to take back power and not do a darn thing about restructuring, I guess so again. So again we are exactly where we were before with nothing being done. This is because the real opposition to restructuring Nigeria are OUR Political elite across BOTH mainstream political parties (PDP and APC) and they are all being manipulated by Core Northern Elements who are afraid of what may come should Nigeria be rearranged.

Now, it is easy to take the action of a handful of people and ascribe it to a general populace, I get that, it's called convenient assumption. So it's easy to say all Yorubas are Awolowo's people, betrayers, skull miners and all that, all Hausa people are Almanjiris, I get that I really do. But I think this is wrong and inaccurate. Not everyone fits into these broad categories above and this just continues to fit into the narrative that is used to divide the unity needed to achieve restructuring. And there are alot of people who are not Nairalanders or on Twitterverse and so on. I have travelled across Nigeria, 30 states across all of its regions, I have made friends with people across tribes and I can tell you confidently that there are beautiful people everywhere and there are useless people everywhere. Calling each other names and championing ethnic causes (this is not saying love another person at your expense) will only further divide us than unite us and if you really do desire restructuring above anything else, then you'll just have to block out the noise, resist the urge to do the convenient and focus on spreading the real message.


Blessings!

oilPUSSY:
With the way things are currently going, the future of of better south is not guaranteed.
Soon, south will realise that core notherners don't give a damn about them because they can still achieve their aim without you .
How the Population of core notherners is growing should be a source of worry to all of us. ( Even though 90 percent of them are suffering, but it's an advantage to their politicians)
Our religion forbids polygamy while that of core notherners who are predominantly Muslims encourage polygamy. Eg.. The fake Chief Justice of Nigeria who is an educated man has 32 children, then close your eyes and imagine how many children average non educated northerner has.

If Nigeria is not balkanised or restructured, Core Northern population might swallow us in decades to come.. You might not be there, but your children will be the ones that will bear the consequences.. (Even the so called restructuring has been buried and I don't think it would see the light of the day except by God's grace) The restructuring of this country still has K leg somehow because these intruders will still invade your lands and tell you that they are still citizens of the country.

Now take a look at the picture I attached below and see how far they have gone in terms of population.
Soon, a Northern candidate will contest an election and still win even without being supported by any southerner. (It's a very sad reality we must all be conscious of).

In early 30's , the population of Southerners could be equated with that of northerners, but today the difference is very clear. The gap is getting wider day by day because of polygamy ....
Don't also forget that our nothern border is very porous. Their brothers in neighbouring countries are seriously migrating to Nigeria without any restriction. Even Buhari built a railway that connected Nigeria and Niger..

Better south and progressive North Central should wake up..


Sign.. Chief Mrs OilPUSSY..

TheFreeOne:
Southern unity is the key to break free of northern domination. But majority of our leaders are greedy fools who keeps dividing us for their selfish interests.

Though i am yoruba but Nnamdi kanu is right on his stand for secession (though its wrong of him insulting other tribes) cos from the look of things northerners wont support restructing.

So if restructuring will not fly is it not better we go our separate ways?

Sorry, you are still complaining about insult that is meant to bring them to their senses. No problem, I think you should appreciate the Fulani that has no time to waste insulting you but to butcher you. That's part of what we are talking about

kayjay69:
Let's be clear on one thing, with the way Nigeria is currently arranged, the SS, SE (the better south as you put it, though I laugh) and NC do not have the numbers to call for and fully actualise the restructuring of Nigeria constitutionally speaking. In the event of this, the only other realistic option is War and I dont think anyone in their right minds would want for a war. I believe Wars should always be a last resort when every other means have failed. For a restructuring to be fully realised a 4th region is needed, the same one I hail from the SW. I say SW because it will be difficult to get the NE or NW to buy into restructuring Nigeria for a variety of reasons some of which I shall touch on later.

It is very easy to point fingers as we all do, Yoruba to Igbo to Hausa and vice versa, but the truth is if the Nigerian people really did understand restructuring and what it meant to them on a personal level, I am certain the average man on the streets will support it wholeheartedly. Nigeria is not working and Nigeria will not work as it is currently constituted, it is not a curse, it is the truth. I believe that the only real solution to our collective problems is to either restructure Nigeria to have strong regions and a weak centre or to split Nigeria along it's current geopolitical lines (or something close).

You make a valid point about the North's exploding population. It is something that everyone, themselves including, ought to be seriously alarmed at because we are seeing the result of that explosive population growth (from 1930 till present) coupled with a clueless and reckless northern leadership (pre and post independence). This is why poverty and illiteracy is rife in the Northern part of Nigeria compared to the South. I totally agree that it would not only be unfair but it would be unjust for Northern Nigeria (core North) to expect (as they are doing now) the whole country to shoulder the burden that they continue to create.

How do we achieve the above, I still think it comes back to and starts with Unity between the SS, SE, SW and some NC states. As much as you can choose to disagree, and you have every right to your point of view hear me out first, keep reading.
The Afonjas or the SW, my people, that you take pleasure in deriding (deservedly in some cases, unfair in others) are key to the restructuring of Nigeria as it is constituted.
Why do I say this? Because the NW and NE are reluctant and will fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo hence the SS, SE and NC are basically stuck with the SW for this to come to light. I know for certain the average Yoruba will buy into this if they fully understand what it means to their everyday lives but the key challenge here is the SW (Not just the SW, the whole of Nigeria) currently lacks the kind of leaders needed for that to happen. The current crop of SW politicians are beholden to whatever keeps them in power and this applies to all politicians really regardless of party affinity. Politicians are a lying, thieving bunch who will stop at nothing to remain in power.
The voices supporting restructuring are usually in the opposition and groups such as Afenifere and a few others usually come across as suspicious (cos they are funded by the opposition party not in power) and dont really have the platform that is needed to sell such an agenda to the people. Traditional Rulers? Forget those ones, same old story, they'll get in bed with whoever butters their bread. And no longer are there social justice warriors or movements concerned with the good of the collective. Hence, the reason why the average Yoruba is dormant pertaining to the issue of restructuring.

I can also state with facts (not here, perhaps at another time) that the issue of restructuring has been so politicized that it is difficult to really identify who cares and who doesn't care about restructuring. When one political party is in power, the other cries restructuring and vice versa it's been like this since 1999. But pay a close attention to voting patterns since 1999 and you will see that Yorubas are actually flexible in their voting which means unlike just about any other region in the country, they can be persuaded to see the light on a matter such as restructuring but then again leadership.

But then again, let me also add that I think (I could be wrong) the voices from the SS and SE clamouring for restructuring became loudest just around the time GEJ lost his reelection bid. I am not saying these voices were not there before now, I am saying the tone became deafening. Now does that look suspect, I guess so. Will these same voices go mute if say PDP were to take back power and not do a darn thing about restructuring, I guess so again. So again we are exactly where we were before with nothing being done. This is because the real opposition to restructuring Nigeria are OUR Political elite across BOTH mainstream political parties (PDP and APC) and they are all being manipulated by Core Northern Elements who are afraid of what may come should Nigeria be rearranged.

Now, it is easy to take the action of a handful of people and ascribe it to a general populace, I get that, it's called convenient assumption. So it's easy to say all Yorubas are Awolowo's people, betrayers, skull miners and all that, all Hausa people are Almanjiris, I get that I really do. But I think this is wrong and inaccurate. Not everyone fits into these broad categories above and this just continues to fit into the narrative that is used to divide the unity needed to achieve restructuring. And there are alot of people who are not Nairalanders or on Twitterverse and so on. I have travelled across Nigeria, 30 states across all of its regions, I have made friends with people across tribes and I can tell you confidently that there are beautiful people everywhere and there are useless people everywhere. Calling each other names and championing ethnic causes (this is not saying love another person at your expense) will only further divide us than unite us and if you really do desire restructuring above anything else, then you'll just have to block out the noise, resist the urge to do the convenient and focus on spreading the real message.


Blessings!

Wonderful !

It should be noted that many of those northerners are in fact not actually Nigerians. Due to the porous borders we have, people can roam as much as they like and enter the country from Niger �� Republic, others from Chad ��, Mali ��, Burkina Faso ��, even Sudan �� Central African Republic �� and Algeria ��. But then all of these people speak Hausa and claim to be northerners. All of those "fake oyibo" begging all over Nigeria, where do you think they come from? Even the Fulani people currently ruling us in this country came all the way from Guinea �� and Senegal ��. There is that rumour that refuses to go away that one of the most feared past military dictator this country ever had was in fact not a Nigerian but a Chadian!
Yes! It is true that Northerners have high birth rates, but then the fact that there is a massive illegal movement of people into the country should not be ignored. We need to BUILD A WALL along our northern border and the lake Chad to stop them and stem the tide of illegal immigration into the country and put a slow down to the massive population explosion in the North.

kayjay69:
Let's be clear on one thing, with the way Nigeria is currently arranged, the SS, SE (the better south as you put it, though I laugh) and NC do not have the numbers to call for and fully actualise the restructuring of Nigeria constitutionally speaking. In the event of this, the only other realistic option is War and I dont think anyone in their right minds would want for a war. I believe Wars should always be a last resort when every other means have failed. For a restructuring to be fully realised a 4th region is needed, the same one I hail from the SW. I say SW because it will be difficult to get the NE or NW to buy into restructuring Nigeria for a variety of reasons some of which I shall touch on later.

It is very easy to point fingers as we all do, Yoruba to Igbo to Hausa and vice versa, but the truth is if the Nigerian people really did understand restructuring and what it meant to them on a personal level, I am certain the average man on the streets will support it wholeheartedly. Nigeria is not working and Nigeria will not work as it is currently constituted, it is not a curse, it is the truth. I believe that the only real solution to our collective problems is to either restructure Nigeria to have strong regions and a weak centre or to split Nigeria along it's current geopolitical lines (or something close).

You make a valid point about the North's exploding population. It is something that everyone, themselves including, ought to be seriously alarmed at because we are seeing the result of that explosive population growth (from 1930 till present) coupled with a clueless and reckless northern leadership (pre and post independence). This is why poverty and illiteracy is rife in the Northern part of Nigeria compared to the South. I totally agree that it would not only be unfair but it would be unjust for Northern Nigeria (core North) to expect (as they are doing now) the whole country to shoulder the burden that they continue to create.

How do we achieve the above, I still think it comes back to and starts with Unity between the SS, SE, SW and some NC states. As much as you can choose to disagree, and you have every right to your point of view hear me out first, keep reading.
The Afonjas or the SW, my people, that you take pleasure in deriding (deservedly in some cases, unfair in others) are key to the restructuring of Nigeria as it is constituted.
Why do I say this? Because the NW and NE are reluctant and will fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo hence the SS, SE and NC are basically stuck with the SW for this to come to light. I know for certain the average Yoruba will buy into this if they fully understand what it means to their everyday lives but the key challenge here is the SW (Not just the SW, the whole of Nigeria) currently lacks the kind of leaders needed for that to happen. The current crop of SW politicians are beholden to whatever keeps them in power and this applies to all politicians really regardless of party affinity. Politicians are a lying, thieving bunch who will stop at nothing to remain in power.
The voices supporting restructuring are usually in the opposition and groups such as Afenifere and a few others usually come across as suspicious (cos they are funded by the opposition party not in power) and dont really have the platform that is needed to sell such an agenda to the people. Traditional Rulers? Forget those ones, same old story, they'll get in bed with whoever butters their bread. And no longer are there social justice warriors or movements concerned with the good of the collective. Hence, the reason why the average Yoruba is dormant pertaining to the issue of restructuring.

I can also state with facts (not here, perhaps at another time) that the issue of restructuring has been so politicized that it is difficult to really identify who cares and who doesn't care about restructuring. When one political party is in power, the other cries restructuring and vice versa it's been like this since 1999. But pay a close attention to voting patterns since 1999 and you will see that Yorubas are actually flexible in their voting which means unlike just about any other region in the country, they can be persuaded to see the light on a matter such as restructuring but then again leadership.

But then again, let me also add that I think (I could be wrong) the voices from the SS and SE clamouring for restructuring became loudest just around the time GEJ lost his reelection bid. I am not saying these voices were not there before now, I am saying the tone became deafening. Now does that look suspect, I guess so. Will these same voices go mute if say PDP were to take back power and not do a darn thing about restructuring, I guess so again. So again we are exactly where we were before with nothing being done. This is because the real opposition to restructuring Nigeria are OUR Political elite across BOTH mainstream political parties (PDP and APC) and they are all being manipulated by Core Northern Elements who are afraid of what may come should Nigeria be rearranged.

Now, it is easy to take the action of a handful of people and ascribe it to a general populace, I get that, it's called convenient assumption. So it's easy to say all Yorubas are Awolowo's people, betrayers, skull miners and all that, all Hausa people are Almanjiris, I get that I really do. But I think this is wrong and inaccurate. Not everyone fits into these broad categories above and this just continues to fit into the narrative that is used to divide the unity needed to achieve restructuring. And there are alot of people who are not Nairalanders or on Twitterverse and so on. I have travelled across Nigeria, 30 states across all of its regions, I have made friends with people across tribes and I can tell you confidently that there are beautiful people everywhere and there are useless people everywhere. Calling each other names and championing ethnic causes (this is not saying love another person at your expense) will only further divide us than unite us and if you really do desire restructuring above anything else, then you'll just have to block out the noise, resist the urge to do the convenient and focus on spreading the real message.


Blessings!

You are just preaching to a deaf audience. Igbos are not a reasonable people. Stop trying to reason with them.


Ask them how many igbo man has called for restructuring or Biafra in the legislative house. They will tell you the north will oppose it even when they have not tried. Let igbos raise the debate in the house if they truly want restructuring instead of pointing fingers. Restructuring debate can span two or three legislative eras, but it has to be started just like PIB. It has to be started before I can take them serious.

The truth is nobody wants restructuring in Nigeria, both northerners and southerners. But igbos in their characteristic manner like to blame others. Ekweremadu has been in the house since 1999. Let him raise the debate.

Kindly refrain from casting aspersions on any particular tribe. As I said in my write up we often do that in our day to day lives and I feel it is wrong and uncalled for.

PeterUdeme:
You are just preaching to a deaf audience. Igbos are not a reasonable people. Stop trying to reason with them.


Ask them how many igbo man has called for restructuring or Biafra in the legislative house. They will tell you the north will oppose it even when they have not tried. Let igbos raise the debate in the house if they truly want restructuring instead of pointing fingers. Restructuring debate can span two or three legislative eras, but it has to be started just like PIB. It has to be started before I can take them serious.

The truth is nobody wants restructuring in Nigeria, both northerners and southerners. But igbos in their characteristic manner like to blame others. Ekweremadu has been in the house since 1999. Let him raise the debate.

Stop misinforming people with your psychiatric illness.



Ebute-Metta means 'The Three Harbours' i.e Oyingbo, Otto and Iddo.


In the olden days, water transportation was the only mean of traveling long around different parts of Lagos and the Harbours were like today's Bus-Stops.

The first three Harbours (Iddo, Otto and Oyingbo) when coming from Lagos Island to the Hitherland weren't just ordinary Harbours but economic zones where the Islanders usually meet the Hitherlanders to sell (usually imported) products in exchange for Agricultural products from the hinterland. These three economic Harbours are the equivalent of what we now call 'FREE TRADE ZONES'.

The place was traditionally under the authority of the King of Otto (Oloto of Otto Kingdom ) who provided security and ensured free trading while his ' Traditional Custom officers' got his commisions to the palace.





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TheFreeOne:
Southern unity is the key to break free of northern domination. But majority of our leaders are greedy fools who keeps dividing us for their selfish interests.

Though i am yoruba but Nnamdi kanu is right on his stand for secession (though its wrong of him insulting other tribes) cos from the look of things northerners wont support restructing.

So if restructuring will not fly is it not better we go our separate ways?

YOU MEAN TINUBU AND AMAECHI