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Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by LazyGold(m): 12:58pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
emmanuelex1: and it is that, that we chase your people out of Lagos, You can not keep disrespecting the Household you live and Expect to live in Peace |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by emmanuelex1(m): 1:01pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
I do not know about the North, we can have slight issues but we South South see IBOS more as brothers than Yorubas. You Yorubas sold your lands and collected Omonile fees and you now crying everywhere. Kagawa10: |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by Kagawa10: 1:01pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
SuperIgbo1: Banjo didn't ask for any army. Banjo was one of the people that disagreed with Ojukwu on the imposition of Okonkwo as the Midwest governor. He also had problem with how they attacked the Midwest when they should have negotiated with them. Ojukwu's letter was the final straw. The fact is Ojukwu was greedy and a thief who had wanted to annex the Midwest Ondo and Lagos state into his stupid Biafra and we gave him hot in return. Biafra lost the battle the moment they invaded Ore. |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by emmanuelex1(m): 1:02pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
You talk like thug, hence I will stop replying you. Please note that Nigeria has over tribes. LazyGold: |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by Kagawa10: 1:09pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
SuperIgbo1: You ain't making sense. When the Koreans wanted to seceed from the Japanese, they didn't invade any Japanese region. They only fortified their region against the Invaders and killed any Japanese among them until the international communities came to the Korean rescue. The Koreans didn't invade other regions to annex them like Biafra did nor did they force other tribes such as the ogoja cross River against their wish like the Biafra did. |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by Kagawa10: 1:15pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
SuperIgbo1: Your mean the ragtag Biafra army that were playing hide and seek in the bush while they used their civilians as covers against the army? Biafra army fought no way. They only to played hide and seek game. |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by LazyGold(m): 1:17pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
emmanuelex1: 20% Yoruba Blood is thuggery, We never know Peace in Our History due to Frequent Battles and War, but just when we settle down to live peacefully with Everyone, your people keep antagonizing us, imagine if some Yoruba come to your Place in the East to be Ranting where your people live is no man's Land. You said you don't care about history so i don't think you should worry about when South West is no longer save for your people. 1 Like |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by Kagawa10: 1:20pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
emmanuelex1: The we SS crew has come up with his nonsense. Stop being ashamed of your tribe and come out boldly. Don't let me pull out the pics of bayelsa attack on the Ibos for you? Even the cross River warned Ibos to stay out of their politics and king making. The Ikwere don't sell lands to the Ibos. The North are wary of the Ibos. Why always the Ibos? 1 Like |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by vsound(m): 1:31pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
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Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by emmanuelex1(m): 1:34pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
I am from Delta and you are very free to exhibit your E thuggery. Personally I feel Yorubas are the rebel of the SOUTH. Your guys are political greedy. You sold out a South South president to collect VP. and now you can not even complain to the Northern president you supported despite him not doing well. Well we are waiting for 2023 when if your son will come to seek our support. Kagawa10: |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by Kagawa10: 1:47pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
emmanuelex1: Maybe you should ask your dumb brain why the SW failed to support Jonathan in 2015 after they did in 2011? Are you even sane at all? Support which Jonathan? Same Jonathan that was mocking Yorubas with Arthur Eze who called us Useless amala and ewedu people on national TV? Same Jonathan that said Ibo were the pillar of his government even when Yoruba voted massively for him? Same Jonathan that gave Yorubas no post in his executive arm? You're insane. No be only Delta, you go see lagoon. Yeye. 2 Likes |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by emmanuelex1(m): 2:11pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
We are waiting for your presidential bid come 2023, we rather support ATIKU than your son. Shikinah Kagawa10: |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by Kagawa10: 2:20pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
emmanuelex1: Like the way the SS supported APC over Atiku, right? Lol. Like I said earlier, be proud of your inconsequential tribe and stop attaching with the SS. Yeye dey smell. 1 Like |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by sakssey23: 2:42pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
Abeg make I ask - is Tinubu from Lagos or Osun State or |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by mercyville: 5:41pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
emmanuelex1: Are they the only people who bought lands? Other tribes but lands from Yorubas but they do not act stupid like this. 1 Like |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by mercyville: 5:43pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
sakssey23: Anywhere he came from,he is Yoruba.He bears Bola and not Sukudi. 2 Likes |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by emmanuelex1(m): 8:45pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
I do not understand what you mean by you people. You must understand that not every that does not support you is IBO. There are more than 200 ethnic groups in Nigeria. You Yorubas are becoming so insecure despite being in charge of the Government in Lagos. How can you IBOS not to vote in Lagos, in fact you are just mad! Incase you do not know Na people get oil wey Nigeria they survive on. mercyville: |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by mercyville: 9:24pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
emmanuelex1: Are you for real.A lot of Yorubas also voted for PDP.Why would they tell Igbos not to vote for PDP.It is the other aspirant that is trying to pull a fast one on his opponent not Yorubas in general.. What I detest is the Igbo ranting of buying lands from Yorubas and beating their chests as if they carry the land to Umuahia.Other tribes also bought lands but are not this loquacious. 1 Like |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by lx3as(m): 9:32pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
No tribe will smile if her people are called 'slaves' and her land 'no man's land' by the strangers living among them. |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by emmanuelex1(m): 9:57pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
mercyville: |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by emmanuelex1(m): 9:58pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
You sound like an E-THUG, hence I will ignore you mention LazyGold: |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by emmanuelex1(m): 10:02pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
You are just suffering yourself explaining what is irrelevant. Both Yorubas and Ibos are pure chest beaters, so if you can not ignore ranting then it is your problem, deal with it. It is only Northern tribes that are not chest beaters. mercyville: |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by Lammyz(m): 10:03pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
The first storey building in Nigeria was built in Marina, Badagry in 1845, long before some of hinterland people gave up the idea of conical mud houses with thatched roofs which some boastfully called 'ancient mansions.' How can you now claim your grand-sires developed Lagos? Please if you are one of those spreading the fiction, I expect you to desist from self-delusion and collective amnesia forthwith. 1 Like |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by Lammyz(m): 10:04pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
The first Igbo alphabet-character set and Igbo primer (Isoama-Ibo) was published by Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther (a Yoruba man from Osogun) in 1857. How can you now claim superiority over the Yoruba race and even carelessly affirm that your forebears should be thanked for bringing enlightenment to Yoruba Land? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by simeonaussie: 10:36pm On Mar 03, 2019 |
Forget it, Yoruba would never attack igbos because we know they won't attack us either. It's just mouth, though we don't like their boastful nature but it won't degenerate to anything. AfonjaConehead: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by TAO11(f): 4:34am On Mar 04, 2019 |
[quote author=Etinosa1234 post=76301571] . |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by TAO11(f): 4:35am On Mar 04, 2019 |
Etinosa1234: You wrote: "All this one you're saying is trash" Lol ... No, it isn't trash and I'm demonstrating why it isn't trash below: Firstly, you argued that the Binis were not chased out, and the reason you provided to buttress your conclusion was that the area was regarded, by the Binis, as a war camp Secondly, you then requested proof if I have a contrary conclusion to yours. In response to your two points, I had the duty to deal with two things (not just the second part about "source", i.e. about evidence, proof, or reason), and that was precisely why I first dealt with your first point by pointing out the fallacy in your argumentation to the effect that your argument is invalid because you committed the etymological fallacy. To break that down for you: You concluded that they were not chased out beacuse, they simply took the area as a war camp. Your argument here is invalid and a logical fallacy because the fact they initially and originally considered the area as a war camp does not preclude them, by any means, from settling there permanently afterwards. Thus did I point I out the fallacy in your argumentation. The second part of your points (which you obviously are distracted by) is your request for "source" (i.e. evidence, proof, or reason) in case I have a position contrary to yours. Having shown that your argument is baseless (hence your conclusion is invalid), I proceeded to demonstrate mine (which is obviously a contrary position) with evidence, proof, and reason as you've requested. My argument which contradicts yours is that the Binis (although initially and originally came to the area for war purposes) later settled to live permanently in the area for a couple of generations, and not simply for a few weeks, months, or years of war campaign after which they pulled out. I alluded to the fact that they settled, lived and even ruled as the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth Kings of Lagos (i.e. Elekos) in one line of Bini descent, until king Ologun-Kutere (a Yoruba man) who ruled after Eletu-Kekere broke the Bini jinx. I have given you the names of the Binis as they ruled Lagos from one generation to the other for five generations, thus serving as evidence, proof, and reason that they did indeed settle to live permanently, and not merely some temporary few days, weeks, months, or years of war residing. So, it is not my fault if you are unaware (before now) of those Bini names as rulers of Lagos for five generations, yet you've been giving the impression of knowing something of Bini history in relation to Lagos. Anyway, to give you a "source", refer to your beloved wikipedia for the evidence that those Bini names I mentioned did indeed settle, live, and rule as kings in Lagos for five generations before they were forcefully stopped by Yorubas particularly a war general called Ologun-Kutere who then ascended the throne. For a more scholarly "source", please refer to Ajayi Crowther's "Vocabulary of the Yoruba Language", London, 1852. The Introductory Remarks of this classic work dealt in some great details with the history of kingship in Lagos (Eko); thus showing the Binis as permanent settlers who were repelled five generations later. |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by TAO11(f): 4:42am On Mar 04, 2019 |
Etinosa1234: If you've admitted that you were wrong, how then could your being wrong ever be my fault? Regarding the fact that they were terrorists, I already provided you evidence although I understand you have a right to pretend to be too blind to see it. The evidence shows that the Aworis were the founders (i.e. owners) of Lagos. The evidence shows that the Binis came a century later to "conquer" the landowners and even became king for five generations over the landowners before they were repelled. It is obvious now that it is you who have a duty of showing how more terrorist those Binis need to be before they should be called by their name (i.e. terrorists). Regarding war camp, I have already addressed that in my forgoing reply. Moreover, I don't even see how bringing that up here helps your argument here in any way. |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by TAO11(f): 5:55am On Mar 04, 2019 |
Etinosa1234: First, I don't see how all your story here contradicts the clear words of your Oba Ewuare II in the video that: The First Oba of Benin is from Ife. Before you assume too far that you're talking to a novice, I am aware of the history that before the Oba dynasty in Benin, what was there was the Ogiso dynasty of igodomigodo. And that's precisely my point which Oba Ewaure II apparently agrees with in the video And the Oba dynasty coincided with the coming of Oranmiyan from Ile-Ife, prior to which there was nothing like the word Oba as a title for royalty in igodomigodo. In the video, Oba Ewaure II is heard saying "first". "First" means "first". The first Oba in Benin, Oba Ewaurae II said, was the Yoruba man from Ife. Before the intervention of the Yorubas, you had Ogiso never Oba. A part of your statement which interests me is where you wrote: "The banished child went to Ile-Ife and became the first Ooni of Ife ... He was named Oduduwa". Hello Bini boy, please wake up and smell the coffee, stop copying and pasting imaginations from amateur historians and internet e-warriors who recreate imaginary history instead of documenting factual history perhaps because of their low self-esteem and tribal bigotry. I will advise that you instead always consult the classical and earliest sources by the leading experts in a field of inquiry instead of amateurs and wishful thinkers. There is a maxim in the study of historical accounts that the earlier and closer an account is to the event date and time, the more accurate it would be. For these two reasons, I will make reference to the world-leading expert in the study of Bini history. This expert is an indigenous expert, he is a Bini himself, and not only that, he is the earliest, most prolific, and most prominent of all Bini historians. His name is Chief J. U. Egharevba. Regarding the case of the only son of the last Ogiso (i.e. Ogiso Owodo) whose name is Ekaladerhan. Chief J. U. Egharevba wrote in J. U. Egharevba, A Short History of Benin 1968 [This is an English edition of the earlier publication in Edo, published in 1934] The first Ogiso was Igodo who established a dynasty of kings, some thirty-one in all. This dynasty came to an end when its last ruler, Ogiso Owodo, was banished as a result of popular hostility against his regime which was marked by misrule and cruelty. His only heir, Ekaladerhan, who would have succeeded him had earlier been exiled to Ughoton; and although every attempt was made to persuade him to return after his father's banishment, Ekaladerhan refused to leave Ughoton where he eventually died. Ekaladerhan obviously did not go to Ife according to the earliest Edo source I have cited above, and Ekaladerhan is not one and the same person as Oduduwa. Instead, Oduduwa is an entirely separate person, a Yoruba ruler at Ile-Ife whom the Edos contacted for help. Hear from the horse's mouth below: The last of the Ogiso kings, Owodo, was banished for misrule. Evian who was appointed as an administrator attempted to perpetuate his lineage by apportioning his son, Ogiamen, as his successor. The people refused and instead appealed to the Oni of Ife, Odudua, to send his sons. It was in this circumstance that Oranmiyan was sent. [J. U. Egharevba 1968:6] The foregoing are the histories of the Ife-Benin connection known to the Edos from the earliest times. However, popular tribalistic stories like the one you've copied and pasted above which is not found in any early Bini source found its way into the narration of the Binis many years later. In fact, scholars nowadays have traced the origin of the Ekaladerhan is Oduduwa Theory, and have found it to be originating from 1978-9. Roger Blench and Matthew Spriggs have noted in "Archaeology and Language I: Theoretical and Methodological Orientations" that the story emerged for the first time ever during the coronation of Omo 'N Oba Erediauwa as part of his coronation speech during the 1978-9 coronation. In this work, Roger Blench and Matthew Spriggs also cited the indigenous Eboreime 1985 to corroborate their position. The Ekaladerhan is Oduduwa Theory is certainly and evidently alien to the history of the Edos. It contradicts, in clear terms, the earliest written attestation of Bini's most prominent historian, as well as the earlier writings of the Europeans like P. Amaury Talbot, The Peoples of Southern Nigeria, London 1926. You will never find this Ekaladerhan is Oduduwa Theory in any writing (Bini or non-Bini) before 1978. Never! This later account which emerged for the first time in 1978 is an obvious attempt by the then new Oba and his allies to help the modern Bini person heave some sigh of relief from the "embarrassment" they feel as a result of their own very widespread tradition which tells them that a man from another country became their first Oba and that the Binis' present polity owes too much to this man and his country Ile-Ife. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by AfonjaConehead: 8:48am On Mar 04, 2019 |
simeonaussie: Thanks and God bless |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by Etinosa1234: 8:57am On Mar 04, 2019 |
TAO11: see ur thinking Benin invaded Lagos and turned it off to a camp ....that makes them terrorist British invaded Lagos.....they are colonialists I think the burden is more on u |
Re: IPOB Man Blasted For Threatening Killing, Saying Lagos Is Not Anybody's Property by olas24u(f): 9:14am On Mar 04, 2019 |
Lammyz:People existed before colonialism, civilization is not the same has buildings, civilization is development. |
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