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Bwoodlt:
Our next breakthrough is just at the expense of us taking that risk! Trust me, it always get better! I can tell Op wouldn't regret the decision to forge ahead! I'll take the UK scholarship! Once you're done with your MSc in the UK, you can expect up to 6-7X of what you currently get on a monthly basis! Trust God, He's going to lead you right!

Bwoodlt:
Our next breakthrough is just at the expense of us taking that risk! Trust me, it always get better! I can tell Op wouldn't regret the decision to forge ahead! I'll take the UK scholarship! Once you're done with your MSc in the UK, you can expect up to 6-7X of what you currently get on a monthly basis! Trust God, He's going to lead you right!

urchpath:
Hahahahhaa, Mr. Employer of Labour. Wake up sir. There are thousands of nigerians without masters who earn above 500k in nigeria. Well I am a doctor too, I earn just a little below that, and I have no masters yet. Just a medical officer, and yes that's my take home salary besides other side runs. Again, wake up.

Thank you

Trolla:
I suggest UK, i don't know if you plan to continue your job here, or take up employment in your country of study (since you said you're currently doing your residency), if you intend to continue your Job here i would say anywhere since you are still coming back, but if you intend to relocate, i suggest UK, reason being masters in canada is very costly and they may require you to have some millions in your account as backup (the course fees aside oo!!).

Its no doubt their doctors are one of the highest paid in the world, if not the highest, but i heard even after your masters, you may not be able to get a Job as a medical officer, even with your experience, as i don't think they recognize your MBBS, (you'd have to do their own medical exam, similar to plab, but i hear they recognize plab, even australia does) even after all the money you spent, you may only be able to work as a medical assistant...

In UK however, its comparatively cheaper the major cost you would incur for plab is plab2 when you would need to pay for tutorials, accommodation, flight costs e.t.c. for a period of 6weeks (you wouldn't need tutorials if you're a genius anyways , just flight cost and accommodation for about 2 days (a place to stay after the exam and you're back)), but all of that is irrelevant since you're going for masters, all these costs would be factored in, and since you're there primarily for study, you'd have enough time to tackle the plab1 (many doctors that take the exam here in nigeria still have to squeeze out time from a hectic schedule to prepare for the exam) so you're at an advantage

Before you're course runs out, if you're dedicated, you'd have passed your plab and be done with your masters, probably even gotten a job there, because its a lot easy to get a job while you're still there as many hospitals prefer doctors who are resident in the UK (i'm no doctor, but i know this because i know someone who went through this process)

Don't joke with an opportunity to travel out, a friend of mine who took the exam said she saw a consultant form luth taking the plab exam also, so you can imagine if a consultant from luth is taking an entry level exam into the UK's medical system, why would you a resident be non-challant about it....

also you'll need ielts, with a score of at least 8.0 or 7.5 before you can start talking of plab1, so much work for you here....Adios and best of luck

Offpoint1:
Like I always said, Nigerian are their own problems until we realize that this nation will never move an inch of progress.

A potential individual [Nigerian] brought two options on the table, one of which is beneficial to Nigeria and other which is totally of no benefits to Nigeria and Nigerians... to my greatest surprise, all comments from Nigerians above and below is advising he leaves. They don't even know genius doctors will soon go extinct in Nigeria because they're leaving the shore almost everyday.

My question is How will Nigeria be great when Nigerians are advising all the already threatened brains to leave? Each time they leave the more useless and endanger Nigerian health sector becomes.

Sometimes is not what your country can do for you, it's what you can do for your country.

Your house is on fire, instead of us to seek for solutions on how to quench the fire, we ran to relax in our neighbors abode.

I know everyone deserves the best out of life, everyone wants the best out of life, but sometimes in life we have to make sacrifices which aren't convenient but are worth it.

Op, I know if you leave, your probabilities of coming back is zero to none. remember the lives you've saved so far with the little available resources to you. think of lives that will lost when you're not there to contribute... is it really worth it?
If you have intentions of coming back, there's nothing wrong if you go for your masters outside the shore, but it'll be inhume if you don't return after witnessing what your people are going through.


like I always wrote on my facebook wall and whatsapp status... "If your ambition in life is to go to school, graduate, get a job, build a house, get a car, get a wife and bore kids... then you don't know your purpose of existence"


I know I'm offpoint, that's what everyone thinks of me... but I'm always on the right path, so please don't quote to insult me if your IQ is lower than my UBA account balance. if you care to know, it's N32.00

Honor10:
oga! they don't use MSC to practice in UK, u need to do PLAB 1 and 2

jrusky:
Mr you are yet to do your Masters and you are already receiving 500k in Nigeria?

Bro be honest to yourself then you will get honest advise.

A poor working condition, non conducive environ to work, frustration etc as you mentioned and yet such poor managed organization still cough out 500k monthly for you?

If you know nothing about medical emoluments , keep quiet.
He said he's finished part 1.
Therefore he's a senior registrar.
Senior registrars in Nigeria earn 500k or more.
He never told u he's in a private hospital

Bro I have issue with your post because I'm a employer of Labour so I know what is going on out there what you postedhere is of questionable facts ok. No offense but I'm not buying buying it, it sound freaking bogus.

IvarTheBoneless:
LOL. How many Drs earn 500k without being Consultants?

OP is a medical student or aspiring one sharing his daydreams


I have 2 pals who are Drs....married to Drs. So i would know

PS - except he works for an NGO..
You know nothing.
Senior registrars in Nigeria earn over 500k.
And I'm not talking about private practice extras.
If your relative who's in that cadre says he earns less, maybe he doesn't want you to know his real pay so u don't keep disturbing him.

ozodigboo:
nnn

CoolAmbience:
Let me stick around your point that the story can't be the same for everybody.

I am also sure you will agree with me if I rephrased 'place geniuses in a failed system, and they will fail' cos not all geniuses will fail. Some will certainly make the most of it.

For me as an individual, nothing counts more than a good legacy, regardless of where you are.

We saw Soyinka, Achebe, Mandela and Malala Yousafzai shoot up to global reckoning from selfless works they did for their countries.

I think that there must certainly be a meeting point between traveling overseas to get a better life and appreciating the reality that no one will fix Africa for us.

IvarTheBoneless:
LOL. How many Drs earn 500k without being Consultants?

OP is a medical student or aspiring one sharing his daydreams


I have 2 pals who are Drs....married to Drs. So i would know

PS - except he works for an NGO.

HBB1:
I was a 'Nigeria-or-nothing' kinda person for as long as I can remember. I was begged for years on end by siblings to relocate, but I was naive, very naive!

I have seen many promising, bright young Nigerians suffering because they lack opportunity. Their dreams dashed, their aspirations crushed. They now have to settle for whatever comes their way.

There is nothing like 'one-man-army' in life. Your life is dependent on where you were born, the generation you were born and the family you were born into. I believe everybody should read Malcolm Gladwell's 'Outliers' to get the scales of their eyes!

Do you know how much some Western trained specialists that come back to Nigeria charge or earn? As little as 4million per month to as much as 9million, depending on speciality. ( And that's possibly one hospital)

About building the country, you have to understand timing. If you get ahead of yourself, you fail. If you are miss the time, you fail. A man can prepare all his life for 4 years of destiny! That's akin to sharpening an axe for 4 hours and chopping down the tree in 30mins.

Knowing what I know now, I can never advise anyone to stay back if he has the chance to travel out. He can always come back you know. He can always come back haven acquired skills and built his capacity.
By the way do you know how frustrating it is practising 'stone age' medicine in this country? A place where doing the basic test s is an issue because of poverty.

Please there is no one-man-army anywhere, you can't do better than the system you operate in!

Offpoint1:
Like I always said, Nigerian are their own problems until we realize that this nation will never move an inch of progress.

A potential individual [Nigerian] brought two options on the table, one of which is beneficial to Nigeria and other which is totally of no benefits to Nigeria and Nigerians... to my greatest surprise, all comments from Nigerians above and below is advising he leaves. They don't even know genius doctors will soon go extinct in Nigeria because they're leaving the shore almost everyday.

My question is How will Nigeria be great when Nigerians are advising all the already threatened brains to leave? Each time they leave the more useless and endanger Nigerian health sector becomes.

Sometimes is not what your country can do for you, it's what you can do for your country.

Your house is on fire, instead of us to seek for solutions on how to quench the fire, we ran to relax in our neighbors abode.

I know everyone deserves the best out of life, everyone wants the best out of life, but sometimes in life we have to make sacrifices which aren't convenient but are worth it.

Op, I know if you leave, your probabilities of coming back is zero to none. remember the lives you've saved so far with the little available resources to you. think of lives that will lost when you're not there to contribute... is it really worth it?
If you have intentions of coming back, there's nothing wrong if you go for your masters outside the shore, but it'll be inhume if you don't return after witnessing what your people are going through.


like I always wrote on my facebook wall and whatsapp status... "If your ambition in life is to go to school, graduate, get a job, build a house, get a car, get a wife and bore kids... then you don't know your purpose of existence"


I know I'm offpoint, that's what everyone thinks of me... but I'm always on the right path, so please don't quote to insult me if your IQ is lower than my UBA account balance. if you care to know, it's N32.00

CoolAmbience:
Well, that is good for you.

I don't see how it is a one-man-army ideology anyway.

One does not have to earn N4million or more monthly to make lasting impact that helps humanity.

You don't have to reduce Nigeria's medicine system that much to make a point. We can only improve, and its humans that will help achieve that, not spirits.

Whatever Malcolm Gladwell's has written in Outliers is within his experience and knowledge. However, as you know is boundless hence his submission can't be the standard for all scenarios, as it were.

Like I said before, these things lie on choices and convictions.

We do not all need to go abroad to reach our fullest potentials in knowledge, accomplishment and impact on humanity.

chymeze:
Choice Between Masters Scholarship In The UK Vs High Paying Job

Hello guys. I'm kinda in a dilemma rgt now. I'm a medical doctor about #500k a month with allowances. However I have been offered a scholarship for masters in the UK and I'm hoping to practice over these subsequently.

However I'm torn between resigning my job here in Nigeria (which though quite high paying but is riddled with frustrations from poor working conditions to poor facilities to practice my skills as a surgeon etc) OR accepting the scholarship offer and moving onto a place with good facilities and potentials.

I have this fear of the unknown, if I resign over here and move over there only to discover things aren't what it seemed or as rosy as I thought. Advice urgently needed pls.

Sheriff19:
God bless you bro. Honestly you have taken these words out of my mind. Nigeria is really in trouble not only because of our politicians but because of our mentality. I met a man in Australia sometimes last year, who told me he had an intention of establishing a small start-up(Nigeria ) in 2016 through his brother who happens to be in his final year (Nigeria University) during that period. He said after discussing his plan with his brother, he (his brother) advised him not to even think of coming to Nigeria not to talk of investing. That he is not willing to manage any business or set-up for him (despite the fact that the money was on ground that time.) he said all he wants was to leave the country as well. The man said he as almost finished his saves now and he said he felt he made a mistake by taking his brother advice. What we don't know is that most of these countries are on the alert for Nigerian in their embassy, for you to secure VISA (with that passport is very difficult) you will be hearing some furnish questions, imagine after submitting a letter of admission from a university abroad, the interviewer still ask you what you are going to do in the country and that you should also get a reference latter from someone staying in the country. Our passport is one of the weakest because everybody want to travel but the reality is that many will not have the opportunity to do so. OP, actually one of the best experience and education in life is to travel and which will make you to see things from different angles, you are more assured of a better life and working condition abroad than Nigeria. though, I have never been UK, but you will definitely have a better life over there. However, the British build the UK and no body we build this country for us. Just after you might have settled in UK try to also contribute your quota through professional practice or whatever means to assist the country (not only by sending the Pounds ), all of us can not leave the country you know.

homesteady:
Abeg which Residency is paying you 500k? No resident earns that much in Nigeria. That's a new consultant salary.

HBB1:
It's not all about money to be honest. But common sense is needed, except you are very sure that's your path. If you are sure no wahala, time will always tell.
You don't go about changing anything when you have not developed strength or girth, situations will overwhelm you!
Have you read the parable of the 10 virgins...? ''it will not be enough for you, it will not be enough for them''
You have talked about China Achebe and Wole Soyinka...
Their generation was a wonderful one-- they were in their 20s and were already renowned playrights, Colonels ( in the army), senators... Nzeogwu was 27 and masterminded a coup, 27!
Why?
It was just that generation, they were the ones equipped to fill the gap left by the British.
It could have been wonderful still in the country except for bad governance. Now our young ones can not even dream anymore, they just have to make the best of every situation.
Do you think Anthony Joshua will be where he is if he had grown up in Nigeria, or the many underprivileged nationalities doing well in the developed world?
If someone has the chance to improve himself, let him go, he can always come back when he has

chymeze:
How about Australia or UK? I hear the process in Canada is quite cumbersome

DrWhizy:
Take home of a senior registra 2 is about 350k +/- (usually varies, dependent mostly on the center); usually after part 1.

While that of a senior registra 1 is actually about 500k. Would also vary dependent on the center, mostly taxation dependent.

These are for federal teaching hospitals anyways .

remzor:
500k bro. Which job can pay that monthly here ?

jrusky:
Mr you are yet to do your Masters and you are already receiving 500k in Nigeria?

Bro be honest to yourself then you will get honest advise.

A poor working condition, non conducive environ to work, frustration etc as you mentioned and yet such poor managed organization still cough out 500k monthly for you?

Bro I have issue with your post because I'm a employer of Labour so I know what is going on out there what you postedhere is of questionable facts ok. No offense but I'm not buying buying it, it sound freaking bogus.

Pjossot:
Kindly move to Canada... You will start your residency there too

jrusky:
Mr you are yet to do your Masters and you are already receiving 500k in Nigeria?

Bro be honest to yourself then you will get honest advise.

A poor working condition, non conducive environ to work, frustration etc as you mentioned and yet such poor managed organization still cough out 500k monthly for you?

Bro I have issue with your post because I'm a employer of Labour so I know what is going on out there what you postedhere is of questionable facts ok. No offense but I'm not buying buying it, it sound freaking bogus.

chymeze:
Choice Between Masters Scholarship In The UK Vs High Paying Job

Hello guys. I'm kinda in a dilemma rgt now. I'm a medical doctor about #500k a month with allowances. However I have been offered a scholarship for masters in the UK and I'm hoping to practice over these subsequently.

However I'm torn between resigning my job here in Nigeria (which though quite high paying but is riddled with frustrations from poor working conditions to poor facilities to practice my skills as a surgeon etc) OR accepting the scholarship offer and moving onto a place with good facilities and potentials.

I have this fear of the unknown, if I resign over here and move over there only to discover things aren't what it seemed or as rosy as I thought. Advice urgently needed pls.

Offpoint1:
Like I always said, Nigerian are their own problems until we realize that this nation will never move an inch of progress.

A potential individual [Nigerian] brought two options on the table, one of which is beneficial to Nigeria and other which is totally of no benefits to Nigeria and Nigerians... to my greatest surprise, all comments from Nigerians above and below is advising he leaves. They don't even know genius doctors will soon go extinct in Nigeria because they're leaving the shore almost everyday.

My question is How will Nigeria be great when Nigerians are advising all the already threatened brains to leave? Each time they leave the more useless and endanger Nigerian health sector becomes.

Sometimes is not what your country can do for you, it's what you can do for your country.

Your house is on fire, instead of us to seek for solutions on how to quench the fire, we ran to relax in our neighbors abode.

I know everyone deserves the best out of life, everyone wants the best out of life, but sometimes in life we have to make sacrifices which aren't convenient but are worth it.

Op, I know if you leave, your probabilities of coming back is zero to none. remember the lives you've saved so far with the little available resources to you. think of lives that will lost when you're not there to contribute... is it really worth it?
If you have intentions of coming back, there's nothing wrong if you go for your masters outside the shore, but it'll be inhume if you don't return after witnessing what your people are going through.


like I always wrote on my facebook wall and whatsapp status... "If your ambition in life is to go to school, graduate, get a job, build a house, get a car, get a wife and bore kids... then you don't know your purpose of existence"


I know I'm offpoint, that's what everyone thinks of me... but I'm always on the right path, so please don't quote to insult me if your IQ is lower than my UBA account balance. if you care to know, it's N32.00

homesteady:
In UBTH, A new consultant earns from 500k.