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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by CosmicPhoenix: 7:25pm On Mar 18, 2019
enough said

let iuwe come and explain how captain america and wolverine have no super powers grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 7:44pm On Mar 18, 2019
Iuwe oooo
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 7:55pm On Mar 18, 2019
CosmicPhoenix:
enough said

let iuwe come and explain how captain america and wolverine have no super powers grin
Beautiful! LMFAO!

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:00pm On Mar 18, 2019
CosmicPhoenix:
enough said

let iuwe come and explain how captain america and wolverine have no super powers grin
I hate to do this. This is directly from Marvel comics dictionary.
Image 1 shows his profile.

Image 2 shows his strength level, known superhuman abilities and limitations.

Even marvel dictionary compared him to an Olympic athletes grin. His peak strength is at 800 pounds grin compared to Superman who lifted infinite mass. Lol you guys should know the difference between enhanced strength and super human strength. Captain America strength is limited to his physical human body versus a man who has no limit to what he can carry. grin grin Marvel people.

The day Captain America beats the likes of Thor, namor, sentry, Superman, hulk, is the day that I will agree he has super powers. grin grin grin

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by MobileGees: 8:14pm On Mar 18, 2019
Haven't seen a character I hate more than Brie Larson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5RsMJNYb0I

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by CosmicPhoenix: 8:20pm On Mar 18, 2019
all this one na story for the gods.no one is disputing the fact cap is super human,my point is cap has super powers and the wiki screen shot i uploaded supports that.in comics,cap has lifted tons of weight that 800 pounds stuff is false and how many olympic athletes can run faster than speeding cars,flip a bike,prevent a chopper from flying undecided

of course superman will be stronger than cap,all fingers are not equal

Explain the bolded,we are waiting

iuwe:

I hate to do this. This is directly from Marvel comics dictionary.
Image 1 shows his profile.

Image 2 shows his strength level, known superhuman abilities and limitations.

Even marvel dictionary compared him to an Olympic athletes grin. His peak strength is at 800 pounds grin compared to Superman who lifted infinite mass. Lol you guys should know the difference between enhanced strength and super human strength. Captain America strength is limited to his physical human body versus a man who has no limit to what he can carry. grin grin Marvel people.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by CosmicPhoenix: 8:32pm On Mar 18, 2019
the hate must be strong for you to think Brie Larson is a 'character'

MobileGees:
Haven't seen a character I hate more than Brie Larson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5RsMJNYb0I

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:42pm On Mar 18, 2019
IAmSabrina:

Actually if you really think about it, what's wrong with it being a feminist movie?

As for Brie, i will admit she really gave this movie bad publicity with her controversy...

There's no such thing as bad publicity.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:43pm On Mar 18, 2019
CosmicPhoenix:
all this one na story for the gods.no one is disputing the fact cap is super human,my point is cap has super powers and the wiki screen shot i uploaded supports that.in comics,cap has lifted tons of weight that 800 pounds stuff is false and how many olympic athletes can run faster than speeding cars,flip a bike,prevent a chopper from flying undecided

of course superman will be stronger than cap,all fingers are not equal

Explain the bolded,we are waiting

Lol I was patiently waiting for you to ask me that since like 3 hrs ago.

ENHANCED STRENGTH is subject to the limitations of the person's body. That is to say it is bound by all earthly rules and physics.

SUPER STRENGTH is subject to no limitations of the person's body. That is to say it is not bound by any earthly rules and physics.

Examples of comic character with enhanced strength are Captain America, Deathstroke, Bane, Black panther, Spiderman, Luke cage etc.

Examples of comic character with super strength are Superman, Hulk, MMH, Thor, Sentry, She hulk, Supergirl, Blue Marvel, Hercules, Darkseid.

Difference between enhanced strength and super strength is when characters with enhanced strength fights they cause minor to mild damages to their surrounding environment but characters with super strength causes heavy to catastrophic damages.

Enhanced strength characters can only do things that will give you a mild wow such as lifting a truck, helicopter, ship etc but super power character feats are astonishing like bench pressing the earth, moving planets, and lifting infinite mass.

In a battle of death between enhanced strength characters and super strength characters, please don't expect the fight to last more than 5 minutes.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:00pm On Mar 18, 2019
It's hard to figure out what the term 'superpower' refers to. For example, I could easily say that Superman has no superpowers whatsoever because what he does is perfectly normal for a Kryptonian living on planet Earth. We know this because other Kryptonians have ended up on Earth and had more or less the same powers as Superman. Superman only has superpowers with respect to human beings, not with respect to Kryptonians, so in which way do we measure his powers?

Likewise, Captain America only has powers with respect to "genetically" inferior humans, but any other eugenically augmented human being would be able to match him point for point. So in which way do we measure his abilities? Clearly Cap does not have the ability to read people's minds, shoot fire out of his eyes, or summon up lightning and winds the way some X-Men characters do, so perhaps we can consider the latter superpowers. But of course, in the Marvel Universe, those are just genetic mutations, so perhaps all that means is that Cap is not the pinnacle of human evolution that he is thought to be; it's not that the X-Men have superpowers and Captain America doesn't, but rather that the X-Men are the perfection of the human genetic form and Cap is simply comparatively average.

Ugh, I'm getting a headache

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CosmicPhoenix:
the hate must be strong for you to think Brie Larson is a 'character'

I think there's something bothering that guy. He keeps rehashing an issue that has already been flogged and laid to rest here. It must really be personal for him. Smh

Tenison96:


There's no such thing as bad publicity.
Whatever you say
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:17pm On Mar 18, 2019
iuwe:

Lol I was patiently waiting for you to ask me that since like 3 hrs ago.

ENHANCED STRENGTH is subject to the limitations of the person's body. That is to say it is bound by all earthly rules and physics.

SUPER STRENGTH is subject to no limitations of the person's body. That is to say it is not bound by any earthly rules and physics.

Examples of comic character with enhanced strength are Captain America, Deathstroke, Bane, Black panther, Spiderman, Luke cage etc.

Examples of comic character with super strength are Superman, Hulk, MMH, Thor, Sentry, She hulk, Supergirl, Blue Marvel, Hercules, Darkseid.


Difference between enhanced strength and super strength is when characters with enhanced strength fights they cause minor to mild damages to their surrounding environment but characters with super strength causes heavy to catastrophic damages.

Enhanced strength characters can only do things that will give you a mild wow such as lifting a truck, helicopter, ship etc but super power character feats are astonishing like bench pressing the earth, moving planets, and lifting infinite mass.

In a battle of death between enhanced strength characters and super strength characters, please don't expect the fight to last more than 5 minutes.
@bolded
Spider-Man is rather hard to place in my opinion. He's an anomaly. Of all the heroes you listed alongside him, the only one i can see lasting long in a fight with a "switched on" Spider-Man is Luke Cage. That said, he's nowhere near Hulk, Sentry et al strengthwise
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:47pm On Mar 18, 2019
IAmSabrina:
It's hard to figure out what the term 'superpower' refers to. For example, I could easily say that Superman has no superpowers whatsoever because what he does is perfectly normal for a Kryptonian living on planet Earth. We know this because other Kryptonians have ended up on Earth and had more or less the same powers as Superman. Superman only has superpowers with respect to human beings, not with respect to Kryptonians, so in which way do we measure his powers?

Likewise, Captain America only has powers with respect to "genetically" inferior humans, but any other eugenically augmented human being would be able to match him point for point. So in which way do we measure his abilities? Clearly Cap does not have the ability to read people's minds, shoot fire out of his eyes, or summon up lightning and winds the way some X-Men characters do, so perhaps we can consider the latter superpowers. But of course, in the Marvel Universe, those are just genetic mutations, so perhaps all that means is that Cap is not the pinnacle of human evolution that he is thought to be; it's not that the X-Men have superpowers and Captain America doesn't, but rather that the X-Men are the perfection of the human genetic form and Cap is simply comparatively average.

Ugh, I'm getting a headache

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I think there's something bothering that guy. He keeps rehashing an issue that has already been flogged and laid to rest here. It must really be personal for him. Smh


Whatever you say
In the DC Universe, super powers is the manifestation of abilities that can hurt a person without any physical contacts made or the use of any artificial devices. This manifestation includes telepathy, telekinesis, magic and it various alterations, energy blast, pyrokinesis, hydrokinesis, psychic powers, mind control, darkness manipulation, etc and the ability to do things that defiles the laws of earth and physics such as super speed, flight, super strength (not enhanced strength) and the rest of the supers, bulletproof etc.


If Superman is subjected to the rules of the marvel universe then he has freeze breath and heat vision as his super powers.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by CosmicPhoenix: 10:09pm On Mar 18, 2019
i have never read such misinformation on nairaland in a long time,just like your definition of superpowers,your definition of enhanced and super strength is horse sh*t,there's no book that states super strength has no limitations or super strength must involve pushing planets etc are you going to tell me vampires have no super strength because they cannot push planets undecided

have you opened comics where Black Panther,Spider Man and Luke Cage have been in battle,the destruction is far from mild

iuwe:

Lol I was patiently waiting for you to ask me that since like 3 hrs ago.

ENHANCED STRENGTH is subject to the limitations of the person's body. That is to say it is bound by all earthly rules and physics.

SUPER STRENGTH is subject to no limitations of the person's body. That is to say it is not bound by any earthly rules and physics.

Examples of comic character with enhanced strength are Captain America, Deathstroke, Bane, Black panther, Spiderman, Luke cage etc.

Examples of comic character with super strength are Superman, Hulk, MMH, Thor, Sentry, She hulk, Supergirl, Blue Marvel, Hercules, Darkseid.

Difference between enhanced strength and super strength is when characters with enhanced strength fights they cause minor to mild damages to their surrounding environment but characters with super strength causes heavy to catastrophic damages.

Enhanced strength characters can only do things that will give you a mild wow such as lifting a truck, helicopter, ship etc but super power character feats are astonishing like bench pressing the earth, moving planets, and lifting infinite mass.

In a battle of death between enhanced strength characters and super strength characters, please don't expect the fight to last more than 5 minutes.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 10:18pm On Mar 18, 2019
CosmicPhoenix:
i have never read such misinformation on nairaland in a long time,just like your definition of superpowers,your definition of enhanced and super strength is horse sh*t,there's no book that states super strength has no limitations or super strength must involve pushing planets etc are you going to tell me vampires have no super strength because they cannot push planets undecided

have you opened comics where Black Panther,Spider Man and Luke Cage have been in battle,the destruction is far from mild

Let's end this argument with the following photos. Also links are provided.

http://www.google.com/url?q=https://screenrant.com/best-superheroes-without-super-powers/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjAtPbGzYzhAhWRPFAKHfdSB5UQFjAAegQICxAC&usg=AOvVaw3Q8kvbFuHQP4jxp8GKYRI9

We have JJOF to thank for this btw.

Even the creator of Captain America never said he has super powers.

Marvel people grin grin una no go kill person. You read your comics but don't know that Captain America has no super powers. If you want to argue now please meet Jack Kirby he created Captain America and never said he has super powers.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by CosmicPhoenix: 10:26pm On Mar 18, 2019
all this screenshots are useless,we have all seen the definition of super powers from wikipedia and cap,bucky and iron man fall into that category.

iuwe:

Let's end this argument with the following photos. Also links are provided.

http://www.google.com/url?q=https://screenrant.com/best-superheroes-without-super-powers/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjAtPbGzYzhAhWRPFAKHfdSB5UQFjAAegQICxAC&usg=AOvVaw3Q8kvbFuHQP4jxp8GKYRI9

We have JJOF to thank for this btw.

Even the creator of Captain America never said he has super powers.

Marvel people grin grin
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by CosmicPhoenix: 10:31pm On Mar 18, 2019
stop grasping straws here,there's no law that states Jack Kirby must state cap has super powers before it is true undecided


iuwe:

Let's end this argument with the following photos. Also links are provided.

http://www.google.com/url?q=https://screenrant.com/best-superheroes-without-super-powers/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjAtPbGzYzhAhWRPFAKHfdSB5UQFjAAegQICxAC&usg=AOvVaw3Q8kvbFuHQP4jxp8GKYRI9

We have JJOF to thank for this btw.

Even the creator of Captain America never said he has super powers.

Marvel people grin grin una no go kill person. You read your comics but don't know that Captain America has no super powers. If you want to argue now please meet Jack Kirby he created Captain America and never said he has super powers.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by CosmicPhoenix: 10:35pm On Mar 18, 2019
SUPER POWER MAY BE USED TO DESCRIBE ANYTHING FROM MINIMAL EXAGGERATION OF NORMAL HUMAN TRAITS......

Source:Wikipedia


EOD grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 10:36pm On Mar 18, 2019
CosmicPhoenix:
all this screenshots are useless,we have all seen the definition of super powers from wikipedia and cap,bucky and iron man fall into that category.

Ooooh so now you know more than the person who created Captain America, even when he said the serum gave him no powers.

Marvel people you people are MARVELous grin grin grin grin grin

I showed you Captain America profile on marvel directory you did not believe, maybe DC fans hacked it grin grin grin

Now even the creator of Captain America said the serum did not give him powers and you are telling me that you know the definition of Super powers. Jack Kirby ooooh grin grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by CosmicPhoenix: 10:41pm On Mar 18, 2019
Stan Lee said Galactus is the most powerful person in marvel,is that true?HELL NO


Kevin Fiege said Shuri is the smartest person in the MCU,is that true?HELL NO

whatever Jack says doesnt make them facts

iuwe:

Ooooh so now you know more than the person who created Captain America, even when he said the serum gave him no powers.

Marvel people you people are MARVELous grin grin grin grin grin

I showed you Captain America profile on marvel directory you did not believe, maybe DC fans hacked it grin grin grin

Now even the creator of Captain America said the serum did not give him powers and you are telling me that you know the definition of Super powers. Jack Kirby ooooh grin grin

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Breegz14(m): 10:54pm On Mar 18, 2019
George R. R. Martin said he a fan of the Captain Marvel movie, that it was really entertaining and he's also looking forward to seeing her in Endgame
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 10:54pm On Mar 18, 2019
CosmicPhoenix:
Stan Lee said Galactus is the most powerful person in marvel,is that true?HELL NO


Kevin Fiege said Shuri is the smartest person in the MCU,is that true?HELL NO

whatever Jack says doesnt make them facts

All this things you are saying is rubbish. Stan was asked a question he answered what he felt was the most powerful.

Jack Kirby clearly stated in comics and in person. CAPTAIN AMERICA HAS NO SUPER POWERS PERIOD. He created the character not you, so nobody gives a rat a** what you think. God created humans to die the human said it is not facts grin grin

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 11:03pm On Mar 18, 2019
CosmicPhoenix:
stop grasping straws here,there's no law that states Jack Kirby must state cap has super powers before it is true undecided


What straws am I grasping? The creator of Captain America clearly stated he does not have super powers. You are not the one that created the character neither have you written a comic in your life. Let the owner of the property do and say whatever he likes. You were not there when he created Captain America and yes his words are pure facts not yours his. grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by CosmicPhoenix: 11:06pm On Mar 18, 2019
this bad attempt at trolling is boring,i'm sure hulk616 can teach you a thing or two on that.everybody here can clearly see how i gave you an L.dont bother quoting me,you wont get a reply just hold your bag of L tightly.



iuwe:

All this things you are saying is rubbish. Stan was asked a question he answered what he felt was the most powerful.

Jack Kirby clearly stated in comics and in person. CAPTAIN AMERICA HAS NO SUPER POWERS PERIOD. He created the character not you, so nobody gives a rat a** what you think. God created humans to die the human said it is not facts grin grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 11:10pm On Mar 18, 2019
CosmicPhoenix:
this bad attempt at trolling is boring,i'm sure hulk616 can teach you a thing or two on that.everybody here can clearly see how i gave you an L.dont bother quoting me,you wont get a reply just hold your bag of L tightly.



I quote " The serum took a frail young man with polio and made him a perfect soldier, but it didn't make him "super".

These are the words of the creator of Captain America.

I invent a property and I tell people how it works but they said no it must work this way grin grin grin. I don't know which world that principle works but it is definitely not the earth I am living in. Maybe Pluto or UrANUS.
Nice attempt for a backup btw if he comes tell him to simply Google "Marvel character without super powers" since he started the whole Google is your friend thing grin grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by TheKingIsHere: 11:17pm On Mar 18, 2019
MobileGees:
Haven't seen a character I hate more than Brie Larson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5RsMJNYb0I

Do you hate Brie Larson or Captain marvel character? Which one?

Also, it looks like you are getting obsessed with this issh

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 11:25pm On Mar 18, 2019
iuwe:

I invent a property and I tell people how it works but they said no it must work this way grin grin grin. I don't know which world that principle works but it is definitely not the earth I am living in. Maybe Pluto or Uranus.
Maybe Jack already defined the character's powers, but you have to remember that Captain America has had multiple comic book artists and writers since the 1940s. They've all had their different multiple interpretations of Cap's powerset. Many of his feats and accomplishments in the comics sometimes fall into the range of "super" human.

Are you familiar with PIS & CIS? If you are, you'll know that how a character's powers as described by the creator are not always how they'll be portrayed by the person writing the comic.

If you watch "Death Battles" and other versus matches on youtube, you'll know that feats and achievements are what matter more than the actual character description

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by TheKingIsHere: 11:29pm On Mar 18, 2019
Vic2Ree:

It depends on what you mean when you say "super-powers"
Shouldn't anything that pumps your abilities above any level humans are capable of be classified as super powers?
It has been stated that Cap is the eptimome of "Human" perfection, but I guess it's all in how you interpret the meaning of that statement…
Being that the serum acted to enhance his normal human abilities exponentially, it would be more viable to classify Cap as an "Enhanced" human, rather than "Super" human…

At either rate, that definitely does not classify him as "Peak" human by any standard…

Abi u sabi any Peak human wey fit...
1. Lift or press in excess of a ton..
2. Run in upwards of 40- 60 mph or as he has cleary stated, a mile a minute if need be….
3. Wreck a Tank with minimal effort…..

Guy u sef reason am undecided

Guy why you and iamsabrina wan fall my hand now? angry

Do you know that the likes of kingpin has almost the same feats as captain America (you can check marvel website for confirmation).
Kingpin has even gone one on one and almost beaten caps before, so will you say that kingpin has superpowers?

Oya, make two of una lie down receive 20 lashes each.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 11:32pm On Mar 18, 2019
TheKingIsHere:


Guy why you and iamsabrina wan fall my hand now? angry

Do you know that the likes of kingpin has almost the same feats as captain America (you can check marvel website for confirmation).
Kingpin has even gone one on one and almost beaten caps before, so will you say that kingpin has superpowers?

Oya, make two of una lie down receive 20 lashes each.
I will...

If you specifically point to any where i said and/or asserted that "Captain America has superpowers".

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by TheKingIsHere: 11:34pm On Mar 18, 2019
IAmSabrina:

I will...

If you specifically point to any where i said and/or asserted that "Captain America has superpowers".

You wan use scope now abi?

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by austine5n6(m): 11:48pm On Mar 18, 2019
lol...the things I see in this place ehh...anyway am enjoying this, in other news hulk616 is nowhere to be found grin
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 11:57pm On Mar 18, 2019
TheKingIsHere:


You wan use scope now abi?
I said u should point na cheesy
Lol. U see yaself? You ppl want to lynch me grin.....

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 12:13am On Mar 19, 2019
TheKingIsHere:


Guy why you and iamsabrina wan fall my hand now? angry

Do you know that the likes of kingpin has almost the same feats as captain America (you can check marvel website for confirmation).
Kingpin has even gone one on one and almost beaten caps before, so will you say that kingpin has superpowers?

Oya, make two of una lie down receive 20 lashes each.
Have you never heard of Character Induced Stupidity?

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