Olu317:

All the times,I have seen you and many of your likes peddling lies online because of inferiority complex. I can't just imagine the reason you and chunks of Edos who are interested in ‘culture section' want to match Yoruba glory by deceptive means.

Interestingly, the etymon of ‘Olo' is derived from Olu(Lord- god-master) of ‘Okun' and ‘Okun' is( large body of water-sea). Does ‘Olu- Olo' have this same meaning in Edo lexicon? Perhaps,you know wjat we dont know. I known it as a fact that Osanobua is what is known in Edo as lord-God, which is also borrowed from Yoruba's Oosá- Orísá. So ,kindly note, it is not of Edo origin but Yoruba's.

Furthermore, the world headquarter of Olu-okun-Olokun is in Yoruba land,which nullify your POOR opinion. Infact, Yoruba man created Bini, with his own opinion when he saw anger in Igodomigodp in which you ignorantly boast over in today's world . Isn't it even a shame for you to boast over such name given to you by a conqueror? Even Oba is also has Yoruba etymon and the most revered king in Edo is also a descendant of a Yoruba man.

Lol...your make me laff lets assume oba belongs to the yorubas it was never used to represent kingship untill recently the yorubas under the edi territory took upin the name oba to respresent kings this alone will tell you oba doesn't belong to yorubas but the word oba got there through conquest ....

Olo kun its not “olu kun" dont forge meaning to it my friend again if olu is lord in yoruba why not use olu instead of oba in adressing kings it just shows the yoruba took the name oba from edo through conquest the same way we call our monarchs “kings" through british conquest and the same way illorin call thier monarchs emir and not the original yoruba title .for the record omo n' ba means a child that shine it was a form of praise giving to him

It is “osanobua" not orisha" benin have no word like orisha that it will even think to derive the word from it ...

I want to ask you a question it is well known benin conqured and rule over ekiti,ondo,Lagos and the fulani over kwarra and illorin now tell me who will pass thier culture to each other. is it the conquered or conquerer? Because i am not understanding you, orimiyan came to benin he didnt even enter the palace because he was too fearful to fight and he left. so i still wonder how you think that man brought all this gods to benin it is only reasonable to say this small benin people spread the gods to the yorubas through war it is well noted in the picture above ....

My friend if you cant tell me how this gods entered benin and what are edo worshippers doing in those pictures then shut up it becoming annoying arguing emptinessely with you. i could easily do better than what youre doing now by bring tales and cunning words to have meaning to suit my purpose but there is no need to a tribe that cant even tell where oduduwa came from want to claim ownership to history don't make me laff please

gregyboy:



Lol...your make me laff lets assume oba belongs to the yorubas it was never used to represent kingship untill recently the yorubas under the edi territory took upin the name oba to respresent kings this alone will tell you oba doesn't belong to yorubas but the word oba got there through conquest ....

Olo kun its not “olu kun" dont forge meaning to it my friend again if olu is lord in yoruba why not use olu instead of oba in adressing kings it just shows the yoruba took the name oba from edo through conquest the same way we call our monarchs “kings" through british conquest and the same way illorin call thier monarchs emir and not the original yoruba title .for the record omo n' ba means a child that shine it was a form of praise giving to him

It is “osanobua" not orisha" benin have no word like orisha that it will even think to derive the word from it ...

I want to ask you a question it is well known benin conqured and rule over ekiti,ondo,Lagos and the fulani over kwarra and illorin now tell me who will pass thier culture to each other. is it the conquered or conquerer? Because i am not understanding you, orimiyan came to benin he didnt even enter the palace because he was too fearful to fight and he left. so i still wonder how you think that man brought all this gods to benin it is only reasonable to say this small benin people spread the gods to the yorubas through war it is well noted in the picture above ....

My friend if you cant tell me how this gods entered benin and what are edo worshippers doing in those pictures then shut up it becoming annoying arguing emptinessely with you. i could easily do better than what youre doing now by bring tales and cunning words to have meaning to suit my purpose but there is no need to a tribe that cant even tell where oduduwa came from want to claim ownership to history don't make me laff please

Continue to make mockery of yourself in the eyes of the world. It is only unstudied you can deceive with your uncountable lie. The etymology of this word olokun is of Yoruba origin and it is hers and not borrowed from your kingdom,which was under Yoruba flag through Oranmiyan. The phonology of th word and many other borrowed by Bini from yoruba is self explanatory.

Contrary to your thought, Omo n'Oba n'Edo was what your king was called in the ancient time, so dont laugh to your own detriment. And the word O-BA is simply; 'he reign over' or ontop or above all.So,there are different word that Yoruba ancestors coined to fit to mean same thing(synonym). Since you are struggling with the truth,let me break it down for you .

O: he
Bá: reign over, above,ontop,father that's looked upto as authority over all things. It is even part of epithet of all Yoruba Kings.

Olu-Olo:it is a stand alone word for master,lord,king and be used as prefix or suffix in Yoruba language, which is the reason you people are ignorant of the fact e.g olo okun( lord/god of the sea) Olu itsekiri or Olu warri,Olu Ibadan,even oba bini is even ‘olu'.

Furthermore, the headquarter of Olokun festival is ILEIFE in OSUN STATE, which proof the origin of olokun is from Yoruba land. Infact,Professor Frobenuis ,an ethnologist, saw the head of ori olokun and other artifacts of Yoruba ancestors and admired during his exploration in ILEIFE in 1910, which made him declared certain views on yoruba people as being linked to Mediterranean origin . Perhaps, you have another version of Edos for being ignorant and don't know your own history. Kindly tell us who was the ancestor of Ogiso(sky king) ,whom you claim as the ancestor of Odudua?

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Olu317:

Continue to make mockery of yourself in the eyes of the world. It is only unstudied you can deceive with your uncountable lie. The etymology of this word olokun is of Yoruba origin and it is hers and not borrowed from your kingdom,which was under Yoruba flag through Oranmiyan. The phonology of th word and many other borrowed by Bini from yoruba is self explanatory.

Contrary to your thought, Omo n'Oba n'Edo was what your king was called in the ancient time, so dont laugh to your own detriment. And the word O-BA is simply; 'he reign over' or ontop or above all.So,there are different word that Yoruba ancestors coined to fit to mean same thing(synonym). Since you are struggling with the truth,let me break it down for you .

O: he
Bá: reign over, above,ontop,father that's looked upto as authority over all things. It is even part of epithet of all Yoruba Kings.

Olu-Olo:it is a stand alone word for master,lord,king and be used as prefix or suffix in Yoruba language, which is the reason you people are ignorant of the fact e.g olo okun( lord/god of the sea) Olu itsekiri or Olu warri,Olu Ibadan,even oba bini is even ‘olu'.

Furthermore, the headquarter of Olokun festival is ILEIFE in OSUN STATE, which proof the origin of olokun is from Yoruba land. Infact,Professor Frobenuis ,an ethnologist, saw the head of ori olokun and other artifacts of Yoruba ancestors and admired during his exploration in ILEIFE in 1910, which made him declared certain views on yoruba people as being linked to Mediterranean origin . Perhaps, you have another version of Edos .

Since you are ignorantly don't know your own history.Kindly tell us who was the ancestor of Ogiso?

They (Benins) seem to have gotten the Olokun worship in Urhonigbe from the coastal/riverine Yoruba communities they interacted with in the form of Umale Okun/Malokun.
At the mouth of the Formosa river which the Osse empties into near Ogheye, Warri North- Olokun is still the principal deity till date.

Olu317:

All the times,I have seen you and many of your likes peddling lies online because of inferiority complex. I can't just imagine the reason you and chunks of Edos who are interested in ‘culture section' want to match Yoruba glory by deceptive means.

Interestingly, the etymon of ‘Olo' is derived from Olu(Lord- god-master) of ‘Okun' and ‘Okun' is( large body of water-sea). Does ‘Olu- Olo' have this same meaning in Edo lexicon? Perhaps,you know wjat we dont know. I known it as a fact that Osanobua is what is known in Edo as lord-God, which is also borrowed from Yoruba's Oosá- Orísá. So ,kindly note, it is not of Edo origin but Yoruba's.

Furthermore, the world headquarter of Olu-okun-Olokun is in Yoruba land,which nullify your POOR opinion. Infact, Yoruba man created Bini, with his own opinion when he saw anger in Igodomigodp in which you ignorantly boast over in today's world . Isn't it even a shame for you to boast over such name given to you by a conqueror? Even Oba is also has Yoruba etymon and the most revered king in Edo is also a descendant of a Yoruba man.

This picture just doubted everyfact you just stated untill you prove the picture wrong.
it only shows here in other for the yorubas to fully get the presence of olokun n' urhonigbe they must dress in the benin regalia and a benin man must be in there in thier mist this can never happen in the oba palace.... I love when the Yoruba's defend thier selves in emptiness

gregyboy:



This picture just doubted everyfact you just stated untill you prove the picture wrong.
it only shows here in other for the yorubas to fully get the presence of olokun n' urhonigbe they must dress in the benin regalia and a benin man must be in there in thier mist this can never happen in the oba palace.... I love when the Yoruba's defend thier selves in emptiness

You this ugly boy, you're too dumb for my liking. How many people are dressed in benin attire in that picture compared to those dressed in yoruba attire?
Besides, if a bini man is there, does it mean that bini owns the god?
Do you know how many countries in which olokun is being worshipped?
So if a man from Trinidad or Cuba who also worships olokun is present in that picture, it also means that Cuba owns olokun?

You're such a disappointment to those who wasted funds on your education. We are saying you got the worship from a source, you are saying a bini man is in the picture. Are u this cretinous? Lol. So laughable.

Se ehn, people like you can never acquire knowledge, because you argue not to learn but to massage ur fragile ego. Shows you're still a kid. Bye.

The cultural envy against the Yorubas is very strong

Everyone wants to jack it from us. Damn!

kayfra:
The cultural envy against the Yorubas is very strong

Everyone wants to jack it from us. Damn!

You go fear.

gregyboy:



See ozuor....it is nor spelt olocun it is spelt olokun
And it is worshiped in a village in benin in orhonigbe it is more of thier traditional worship
In benin every village have their indigenous Oracle they worship....you saying yorubas gave us olokun you must be deluded
you should go and say that in orhonigbe in benin where it is worshiped if they wont stop the fake worshippers of it in yorubalands. a benin man had to be there to show them how it is worshiped they all had to dress on benin coral beeds and white linen to worahip it just as they way benin dress .you soon forget those yoruba territories under the benin empire where allowed to worship our gods that's how it spread all over the yoruba state the food that would be given to olokun wont be be amala and ewedu it will be a benin food pounded yam and eguisi .you have no argument here youngman

egusi and pounded yam na Edo food abi ??..you are not even edo if you were probably you have the ibo blood running in your vein because i smell ibo in you .Your forefathers see the Yorubas as their kinsmen but you newer generation have been totally ibonized full of hatred for yorubas yet you worship OGUN SANGO OBATALA ,ORUNMILA OLOKUN

yoruba language is mother of all languages...even Benin language contains some archai yoruba words that are no more in use generally by the yorubas .. .likewise every yoruba tribe have some words which are peculiar to them alone which other tribes can't fathom or understand pre-yoruba language Ede -ife ..Oro -ife we also have oyelagbo.

Ndi ogbologbo. Festival of marine demons.

Tweh!

If una like come meet me for night. I tanda gidigba for all of una

Opiletool:



You this ugly boy, you're too dumb for my liking. How many people are dressed in benin attire in that picture compared to those dressed in yoruba attire?
Besides, if a bini man is there, does it mean that bini owns the god?
Do you know how many countries in which olokun is being worshipped?
So if a man from Trinidad or Cuba who also worships olokun is present in that picture, it also means that Cuba owns olokun?

You're such a disappointment to those who wasted funds on your education. We are saying you got the worship from a source, you are saying a bini man is in the picture. Are u this cretinous? Lol. So laughable.

Se ehn, people like you can never acquire knowledge, because you argue not to learn but to massage ur fragile ego. Shows you're still a kid. Bye.

Stop ranting the beaded hair dress worn by the ladies signify edo culture ....and yes if a Benin man dressed in his native attire and not that of the tribe the you says own the true worship then a message is indirectly passed there....a yoruba man will be in mist of where olokun is worshipped in Benin i just imagine how possible it will be ...in the olds before tribalism if an edo man was to seat in mist of other tribe he will be giving kola to break as we where seen superior traditionally.....

Modified the true religion of the yorubas is islam edo gave the yorubas the other gods

YourNemesis:


They (Benins) seem to have gotten the Olokun worship in Urhonigbe from the coastal/riverine Yoruba communities they interacted with in the form of Umale Okun/Malokun.
At the mouth of the Formosa river which the Osse empties into near Ogheye, Warri North- Olokun is still the principal deity till date.

The Igodomigodo are a funny people and are revisionists. They virtually copied, everything civilization from Yoruba but refuse to be thankful. Even their language and names infiltrated with Yoruba.

The route of olokun worship into Bini could be through your view but there is no iota of doubt that the olokun custodian in Bini came from IFE either directly or through migration to these places you mentioned before it got to Bini.The reason for this assertion is that,custodian and devotees introduce his/her ancestral worship to new environment if there is a perceive problems that's related to such orisha(gods).

Bini need be thankful to yoruba, because they became civilized through the introduction of Oba , Ìdà-Àdà (sword), cloth making,iron cast,sculpture work etc,which their palace used as a form of strength for oppression of the Efa, Ijaw, Bantu,Nupe-Nok groups.

gregyboy:



Stop ranting the beaded hair dress worn by the ladies signify edo culture ....and yes if a Benin man dressed in his native attire and not that of the tribe the you says own the true worship then a message is indirectly passed there....a yoruba man will be in mist of where olokun is worshipped in Benin i just imagine how possible it will be ...in the olds before tribalism if an edo man was to seat in mist of other tribe he will be giving kola to break as we where seen superior traditionally.....

Modified the true religion of the yorubas is islam edo gave the yorubas the other gods

Yet the white men came to Yoruba land to appreciate and see the beauty of yoruba culture and they don't care what you worship in Bini, land, despite your kinsmen in Europe and noise making. Isn't obvious that you people are liars?.Millions of people who can't come will watch it online and you don't feel bad that your own olokun is venerated in Yoruba language? May be you wil claim Ifa too came from Bini . Bunch of clowns with so much falsification.

Olu317:

The Igodomigodo are a funny people and are revisionists. They virtually copied, everything civilization from Yoruba but refuse to be thankful. Even their language and names infiltrated with Yoruba.

The route of olokun worship into Bini could be through your view but there is no iota of doubt that the olokun custodian in Bini came from IFE either directly or through migration to these places you mentioned before it got to Bini.The reason for this assertion is that,custodian and devotees introduce his/her

ancestral worship to new environment if there is a perceive problems that's related to such orisha(gods).

Bini need be thankful to yoruba, because they became civilized through the introduction of Oba , Ìdà-Àdà (sword), cloth making,iron cast,sculpture work etc,which their palace used as a form of strength for oppression of the Efa, Ijaw, Bantu,Nupe-Nok groups.

See a tribe talking about civilization... Hmm a tribe that was defeated countlessly in war ...lemme even believe your history of a man coming to introduce yoruba worship to us ..but they where many tribe before the advent of the whitemen that Yoruba's concentrated yet they dont practice olokun worship. compare to benin that the only yoruba migrant are from the northern part of edo ...it was a war when the British brought Christianity to be accepted by the Benin's they turned it down because it wasnt indegenous then why would a yoruba god be different and not turned down too?....no matter how you try to bend it .it fact that a minority tribe gave you all your indeginous worship just the way illorin was giving Islam... When orimiyan left benin he took the benin worship to yoruba nation

No one can still explain what benin culture is doing in the home land of olokun they say is indigenous

Olu317:

All the times,I have seen you and many of your likes peddling lies online because of inferiority complex. I can't just imagine the reason you and chunks of Edos who are interested in ‘culture section' want to match Yoruba glory by deceptive means.

Interestingly, the etymon of ‘Olo' is derived from Olu(Lord- god-master) of ‘Okun' and ‘Okun' is( large body of water-sea).

Even Oba is also has Yoruba etymon and the most revered king in Edo is also a descendant of a Yoruba man.

Like u earlier said,Benin/Bini history learnt in skul says Obas of Benin are buried in Ife.

https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&client=firefox-b-m&q=are+obas+of+benin++still+buried+in+ile+ife&oq=are+obas+of+benin++still+buried+in+ile+ife&aqs=heirloom-srp.

More resources here

mignone:

Like u earlier said,Benin/Bini history learnt in skul says Obas of Benin are buried in Ife.

https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&client=firefox-b-m&q=are+obas+of+benin++still+buried+in+ile+ife&oq=are+obas+of+benin++still+buried+in+ile+ife&aqs=heirloom-srp.

More resources here

I believe all those gods are Yoruba gods which came to Benin in 19 century. Benin gods were
Ogiea uwu king of death
Eziza god of mighty hair

They are many I forget them but don't relate to this Yoruba gods and Benin never call on Yoruba gods in their history of empire. Which trace the fact that the Yoruba gods came to Benin in 19 or 20 century

Olu317:

The Igodomigodo are a funny people and are revisionists. They virtually copied, everything civilization from Yoruba but refuse to be thankful. Even their language and names infiltrated with Yoruba.

The route of olokun worship into Bini could be through your view but there is no iota of doubt that the olokun custodian in Bini came from IFE either directly or through migration to these places you mentioned before it got to Bini.The reason for this assertion is that,custodian and devotees introduce his/her ancestral worship to new environment if there is a perceive problems that's related to such orisha(gods).

Bini need be thankful to yoruba, because they became civilized through the introduction of Oba , Ìdà-Àdà (sword), cloth making,iron cast,sculpture work etc,which their palace used as a form of strength for oppression of the Efa, Ijaw, Bantu,Nupe-Nok groups.

Please tell me the story of how Yoruba gives the Benin the Ada and Eben

goalernestman:


Please tell me the story of how Yoruba gives the Benin the Ada and Eben

Symbol of Oranmiyan conquest and authority..Ada or Ida Oranmiyan. Curved sword .Ada ti baba fin se oko alai gbo ran...benin no dey hear word..

Obalufon:
Symbol of Oranmiyan conquest and authority..Ada or Ida Oranmiyan. Curved sword .Ada ti baba fin se oko alai gbo ran...benin no dey hear word..

Prove source pictures

goalernestman:


Please tell me the story of how Yoruba gives the Benin the Ada and Eben

I have done that in my last post you quoted. After all, oranmiyan(oranyan) isnt an Edo-igodomigodo name.Itse isnt an Edo-igodomigdo word. Omo isn't an Edo- igodomigodo name. Bini isn't an Edo- Igodimigodo name.Why would Ada be an Edo-Igodomigodo name? The foundation of Oba as the new dynasty came with all yoruba paraphernalia,which signified conquest and authority.

If you are interested, kindly go verify what the Ada(sword) and you'll be told it is a symbol of authority ,which is the GLYPH of Oba of Bini over his Bini kingdom. In fact, each Prince leaving ILEIFE goes with princely-kingly paraphernalia which include Ada(sword). And after subjugation of angry people of igodomigodo which is binu-ibinu in Yoruba language, thus, sword of the Oba represent the ancestral background of Oba Bini and his symbol of authority.

Olu317:

I have done that in my last post you quoted. After all, oranmiyan(oranyan) isnt an Edo-igodomigodo name.Itse isnt an Edo-igodomigdo word. Omo isn't an Edo- igodomigodo name. Bini isn't an Edo- Igodimigodo name.Why would Ada be an Edo-Igodomigodo name? The foundation of Oba as the new dynasty came with all yoruba paraphernalia,which signified conquest and authority.

If you are interested, kindly go verify what the Ada(sword)of Oba means and you'll told it is a symbol of authority over his Bini kingdom. In fact, each Prince leaving ILEIFE goes with princely-kingly paraphernalia which include Ada(sword). And after subjugation of angry people of igodomigodo which is binu-ibinu in Yoruba language, thus, sword of the Oba represent the ancestral background of Oba Bini and his symbol of authority.

Show me proof picture of the prince, oromiyan picture with it.

And you also wonder why oduduwa, ile fa, ile ife is it a Yoruba words but have meaning in Benin words.

First tell me the meaning of Ada in Yoruba?

you can't separate Benin from us we are both omo Odua.... Ede ife now known as Yoruba language is the languages of the gods,is the mother of all languages .. Language mutates

Obalufon:
you can't separate Benin from us we are both omo Odua.... Ede ife now known as Yoruba language is the languages of the gods,is the mother of all languages .. Language mutates

We are both omo ogiso owadu

goalernestman:


We are both omo ogiso owadu

Ogiso laughing ..where are the gods of Ogiso owadu? Ogiso worshiped Ogun and Obatala Olokun his Ancestors

goalernestman:


Show me proof picture of the prince, oromiyan picture with it.

And you also wonder why oduduwa, ile fa, ile ife is it a Yoruba words but have meaning in Benin words.

First tell me the meaning of Ada in Yoruba?

Ada is sword I ... DA .....A ... Da.. break , cut....how come edo bear yoruba names ..Ola shola ..ADESUA.. might sound somuch edo to you but if you are moving towards ondo ilaje ADE is universal They make use of the word SUA more than the central yoruba

gregyboy:


You also want to claim pounded yam and eguisi too are for the Yoruba's wonders shall never end the lady in the picture wore a beeded hair dress with coral beeds this alone will tell you olokun worship is foreign to the yorubas....
How did eguisi and pounded yam seem yoruba lets start from there who colonized who ? Four yoruba state where under Benin territory and you open your mouth to lie openly even when the pictures speaks the truth the question you should ask yourself now is why are the people on that pictures dressing like the benin royals instead of yorubas ...ooh god you're forefathers should be blamed for this. they where busy fighting civil war and selling themselves as slaves to the whitemen for penny instead of documenting thier history now the children are busy claiming others peoples history

These are pictures of benin queens below

that dressing of your queen is ife dressing if you don't know we taught you beads making which is foreign to forest mongrel that roam naked in the jungle also cloth weaving ..bronze making .. please separate Benin from edo .. benin was established or founded by ife prince

Truth on the Yoruba language as being the language of gods and nature's language, which is the reasons Yoruba named many animals after their behavioral pattern that is known according to the bow-wow theory, that all words are echoic, some grunting caveman's attempt to capture the essence of a thing by its sound. The postulation affirmed Yoruba methods used to call animals by it echoic sound. Infact,it is also applicable to all other things be it animate or inanimate.

However, the mutation of yoruba didn't really changed the language but effected through alteration as a result of relocation to new environment,which is supported by, Einger Augen in the book ecology of language,who postulated that language changes as a result of migration and as being borrowed from a teacher's language . So in effect, Yoruba language didn't actually changed because the archaic language is retained in the different yorua dialects.

It is the truth on the Yoruba language as being the language of gods and nature's language, which is the reason Yoruba named many animals after their behavioral pattern that is known according to the bow-wow theory, that all words are echoic, some grunting caveman's attempt to capture the essence of a thing by its sound. Capturing sound by these ancient men affirmed to the Yoruba approach toward her methods which are used in calling animals by it echoic sound. Infact,it is also applicable to all other things be it animate or inanimate in Yoruba land.

However, the mutation of yoruba didn't really changed the language but affected the speakers through alteration as a result of relocation to new environment or nature, which is supported by, Einger Augen in the book, ecology of language,who postulated that language changes as a result of migration and as being borrowed from a teacher's language . So in effect, Yoruba language didn't actually changed because the archaic language is retained in the different Yoruba dialects.

Olu317:
It is the truth on the Yoruba language as being the language of gods and nature's language, which is the reason Yoruba named many animals after their behavioral pattern that is known according to the bow-wow theory, that all words are echoic, some grunting caveman's attempt to capture the essence of a thing by its sound. Capturing sound by these ancient men affirmed to the Yoruba approach toward her methods used in calling animals by it echoic sound. Infact,it is also applicable to all other things be it animate or inanimate in Yoruba land.i

However, the mutation of yoruba didn't really changed the language but effected through alteration as a result of relocation to new environment,which is supported by, Einger Augen in the book ecology of language,who postulated that language changes as a result of migration and as being borrowed from a teacher's language . So in effect, Yoruba language didn't actually changed because the archaic language is retained in the different yorua dialects.

thank you somuch Sir

Obalufon:
thank you somuch Sir

Thank you sir too.