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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 4:41pm On Mar 21, 2019
alekside:
I get your point Bro. You should understand that players like Zaha tend to up their game when playing in a team filled with average to below average players. If he is a World class player as you believe, he would have been snapped up by any of the big teams.

Snapped up you say?

Do you know how many clubs bid for Zaha before he signed his long term contract

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:45pm On Mar 21, 2019
Earthquake2:


Ok

You are comparing Sane to Zaha, imagine if Zaha was in the Man city team


Or imagine Sana was in Crystal Palace without the support of World class midfielders playing the ball in for him.

What would Sana and or Raheem be able to do in Palace. I don't think a lot in comparison.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:49pm On Mar 21, 2019
Earthquake2:


Snapped up you say?

Do you know how many clubs bid for Zaha before he signed his long term contract
A world class player who believes in his ability would rather move to a big club than extend his contract with a below average team like Crystal palace.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 4:58pm On Mar 21, 2019
komekn:


Or imagine Sana was in Crystal Palace without the support of World class midfielders playing the ball in for him.

What would Sana and or Raheem be able to do in Palace. I don't think a lot in comparison.

Imagine Sterling infront of Mcauthur and Schlupp grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 4:59pm On Mar 21, 2019
alekside:
A world class player who believes in his ability would rather move to a big club than extend his contract with a below average team like Crystal palace.

Players have reasons for staying at clubs

Loyalty, Comfortablility etc

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 5:03pm On Mar 21, 2019
But are you aware that African players (notably Naija players) tend to start their careers much later than their European mates? So using when their careers started to guesstimate might not be an accurate measure because their careers might have started in their mid to late 20s.


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raindodger13:


That's because in the eyes of the world Nigerian players aren't valued these days, so naturally the end up in backwater leagues and constantly on loan. Generally if I want to estimate the age of a player I look at when their professional career started. I can give post evidence but it's difficult for me to post on this forum. I could post the links if thats fine with you.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 5:07pm On Mar 21, 2019
Kazakhstan beating Scotland 3-0

Never underestimate your opponent

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:11pm On Mar 21, 2019
Earthquake2:


Players have reasons for staying at clubs

Loyalty, Comfortablility etc
Fear of greater challenges, Fear of flopping etc
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by adrainuche(m): 5:15pm On Mar 21, 2019
Curtisaxel7:


Useless baseless self-deceiving optimism.

Just what folks here want to hear.

When dey come to asaba we would beat them anyhow as long as the pitch is good we would beat them 4 or even 5 ... If d coach decides to release them victor oshimhen and onyekuru it would getbto 6 .. I watched the game the libyans dint play anything all they did was sit back and counter attack... Our goalie made it worse by getting sent off.. I felt if the goalie was not sent off we would have had a draw or even would have won the game..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:48pm On Mar 21, 2019
Earthquake2:


Ok

You are comparing Sane to Zaha, imagine if Zaha was in the Man city team

That's the point - he wouldn't start over Sane. He's not as well rounded as Sane is.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:49pm On Mar 21, 2019
BascoVanVeli:



So Son is better on the ball than Zaha? I died tongue
Try and watch more Spurs game when you can. There's nothing Zaha can do on the ball that Son can't. Only difference is Son chooses to be more efficient on the ball
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:51pm On Mar 21, 2019
Icon79:
Personally, I will rank him after Neymar, Mbappe, and Mane. Zaha just doesn't get the credit he deserves because he plays for Crystal Palace coupled with the fact that he's African. The dude is wickedly talented.


O pari

He's not better than Sterling and Sane. Zaha is talented but let's not overhype the guy because Palace values him at 90m.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:51pm On Mar 21, 2019
edi287:

That's the point - he wouldn't start over Sane. He's not as well rounded as Sane is.

I disagree, all that happens is that Zaha will have to follow the strict discipline of Guardiola and his rigid but very effective style.

On the other hand he may not want to play that kind of expressionless individual football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:54pm On Mar 21, 2019
komekn:


I disagree, all that happens is that Zaha will have to follow the strict discipline of Guardiola and his rigid but very effective style.

On the other hand he may not want to play that kind of expressionless individual football.
I haven't seen Zaha do anything that Sane can't do. The only top 5 club Zaha gets into is Arsenal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:01pm On Mar 21, 2019
chrisooblog:
on your last paragraph i agree that osimhen and chukwueze have to continue to improve and gain consistency. talking about the seasons they have had so far i think both young men can be very satisfied. even if their respective leagues should end today they would have performed far more creditibly than there peers eg. dominic solanke grin. musa, mikel got call ups to the national team as unproven talents so that approach of calling potential star performers is not exactly novel.

with the super eagles yes only the absolute best consistent players should be invited but in instances where you have rare special players the selection criteria has to be relaxed in their favour.


An unproven Julius Aghahowa saved the Super Eagles at the AFCON against the Senegalese. Calling potential stars as you say is not novel.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:02pm On Mar 21, 2019
chrisooblog:
on your last paragraph i agree that osimhen and chukwueze have to continue to improve and gain consistency. talking about the seasons they have had so far i think both young men can be very satisfied. even if their respective leagues should end today they would have performed far more creditibly than there peers eg. dominic solanke ; D. musa, mikel got call ups to the national team as unproven talents so that approach of calling potential star performers is not exactly novel.

with the super eagles yes only the absolute best consistent players should be invited but in instances where you have rare special players the selection criteria has to be relaxed in their favour.


I personally don't rate Solanke as anything special because in my opinion he is rated on potential albeit great outstanding potential. He is yet make his mark.

That not withstanding it doesn't mean I think your protégé is any better.

Now on the debate of who is more creditable as a striker. It's a matter of opinion.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:04pm On Mar 21, 2019
Icon79:
Haha!! The highlighted actually made me laugh out loud grin grin

Coming to what you said, I think you're using their "football age". If you wanna talk about their real age, except for perhaps Mikel, none of those dudes is anything less than 34 years. To me, 34 is the retirement age in football.


O pari


I guess Cristiano Ronaldo is due for retirement.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:05pm On Mar 21, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


An unproven Julius Aghahowa saved the Super Eagles at the AFCON against the Senegalese. Calling potential stars as you say is not novel.

Sometimes players have an attribute that propels them beyond established players.

With Julius it was speed otherwise in reality he didn't have too much competition at the time.

Ighalo, Musa and even if fit Obagoal are not potential but long term proven and established top level performers.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:12pm On Mar 21, 2019
Icon79:
Haha!! The highlighted actually made me laugh out loud grin grin

Coming to what you said, I think you're using their "football age". If you wanna talk about their real age, except for perhaps Mikel, none of those dudes is anything less than 34 years. To me, 34 is the retirement age in football.


O pari


You should make your proposition in comparison to Danny Alves, Frank Ribery, Arjen Robben, Ronaldo who are all above your proposed retirement age and the are currently players playing at the highest level of football in the world.

I could add Glenn Murray and Jernaine Defoe all currently or former top performers in the EPL.

Just shows how inconsequential devoid of substance your proposition is. Particularly as the alternatives you present may Never ever attain these levels in thier respective careers.

If Ibrahomovich was a Nigerian at 37 he would walk straight into the SE no contest.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:19pm On Mar 21, 2019
edi287:

I haven't seen Zaha do anything that Sane can't do. The only top 5 club Zaha gets into is Arsenal.

I am very biased towards flair and skilful play Sana can not match Zaha for sheer skill, Zaha is the quintessential " BALLER "
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:20pm On Mar 21, 2019
Fresh men cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 7:21pm On Mar 21, 2019
edi287:

That's the point - he wouldn't start over Sane. He's not as well rounded as Sane is.

Don't compare Sane to Zaha, Sane can't even start ahead of Bernardo Silva
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:22pm On Mar 21, 2019
Oyinbo born... Or like Joebie would say," two passport players" grin

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:23pm On Mar 21, 2019
Groundsmen putting the finishing touch to the Asaba pitch less than 24 hours to kickoff...
Smh...

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:24pm On Mar 21, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:26pm On Mar 21, 2019
Omo, those folks you mentioned are the EXCEPTIONS not the RULES. An average Nigerian player is not as disciplined (in terms of training and diet) as many of the players on your list. That's a fact!

And in addition, most of those guys have quit playing for their national teams.


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komekn:


You should make your proposition in comparison to Danny Alves, Frank Ribery, Arjen Robben, Ronaldo who are all above your proposed retirement age and the are currently players playing at the highest level of football in the world.

I could add Glenn Murray and Jernaine Defoe all currently or former top performers in the EPL.

Just shows how inconsequential devoid of substance your proposition is. Particularly as the alternatives you present may Never ever attain these levels in thier respective careers.

If Ibrahomovich was a Nigerian at 37 he would walk straight into the SE no contest.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:27pm On Mar 21, 2019
Haha!! That one na human being or na alien? grin


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TheGoodJoe:


I guess Cristiano Ronaldo is due for retirement.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:29pm On Mar 21, 2019
Pictures beautify things, mhen. I was at this stadium in late January and the playing pitch (even the seats) look ugly and mediocre.


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Danielnino00:
Groundsmen putting the finishing touch to the Asaba pitch less than 24 hours to kickoff...
Smh...

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:33pm On Mar 21, 2019
Raheem Sterling is definitely having a good season, but I have never rated him as a player. I will take Wilfred Zaha over him anytime any day!
Sane is extremely talented but, right now, I will still rate Zaha above him. Having said that, if Sane keeps improving, in 2 years time he would be one of the best footballers on the planet.


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edi287:

He's not better than Sterling and Sane. Zaha is talented but let's not overhype the guy because Palace values him at 90m.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:35pm On Mar 21, 2019
Who's the dude between Uzoho and Ezenwa?


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Danielnino00:
Fresh men cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:35pm On Mar 21, 2019
Earthquake2:


Don't compare Sane to Zaha, Sane can't even start ahead of Bernardo Silva
You think Zaha would start over Bernardo?? Look Zaha isn't even better than Mahrez if we're being honest.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:36pm On Mar 21, 2019
Icon79:
Raheem Sterling is definitely having a good season, but I have never rated him as a player. I will take Wilfred Zaha over him anytime any day!
Sane is extremely talented but, right now, I will still rate Zaha above him. Having said that, if Sane keeps improving, in 2 years time he would be one of the best footballers on the planet.


O pari

Zaha has never been better than Sterling at any point in his career.

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