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Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Olubee22(f): 5:17pm On Mar 29, 2019
Deji63:
Who is fooling who? PhD in Nigeria is bagged by the illiterate who can't even construct a sentence in English. It's all about wearing gown& title and answering doctor that their levels of intellect don't match. Her caption says it all "first stand up comedian to bag a phd' That is all Helen Paul couldn't wait to say. PhD my foot .Nigeria is a mess even a danfo driver will bag a PhD if he greases the right palms.
Since you have stated that it's like paper that everyone can pick anywhere, where is your own? Uncle, e ba onire yo.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by ofiko123(m): 5:18pm On Mar 29, 2019
Nice one.. Congratulations to her...
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by madridsta007(m): 5:29pm On Mar 29, 2019
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Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by madridsta007(m): 5:30pm On Mar 29, 2019
Deji63:
Yes I do. I bagged mine five years ago and not from a messy education system.
Congratulations. You do not write like an academic though. In the academia, it is rare to find an academic disparaging another. Very rare.

That doesn’t invalidate hers, though.
You should know this, if you are an academic.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by toprealman: 5:50pm On Mar 29, 2019
Geenosko:
As in ehn... the amount of bad energy flying around raises cause for alarm. Let them enrol for PhD, they will not. Someone bags a PhD they start spewing nonsense. May God remove the bitterness in their hearts.
amen ooops.
These people need to realise that steer is paying like mad. Just because you decide to go that lane.....it should not be misinterpreted that your brain can no longer process academic stuff.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by nonye6194: 6:12pm On Mar 29, 2019
Ishilove:
Is this an academic PhD or honorary PhD? My bet is on the latter.
if you read the post you'd know it's an academic PhD. dont be too quick to comment without understanding what's discussed in the thread
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by nextstep(m): 6:26pm On Mar 29, 2019
Bluffly:
Has any research degree being beneficial to us as a country? The answer is no. I don't even rep naija research degree as mist will be filled with plagiarism of over 50%.
Actually yes, there is a lot of research going on in Nigeria in the fields of animal husbandry, agriculture, health, herbal medicines, social science, space research, applied technology, metallurgy, and so on. There are agencies and universities with active researchers who publish their findings in peer-review, international journals (meaning plagiarized work rarely makes is past the review process), travel worldwide to present at conferences, and actually produce products from their research. Unfortunately, budgets are thin, and support from government (though present), is far too little to make serious impact.

We are not where we should be, but there's a lot on ground. Also don't forget, a lot of our Phds end up leaving Nigeria and get accepted to institutions abroad. They would not be able to unless they were of high caliber, so please don't discount them.

Congratulations Dr. Helen Paul.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:38pm On Mar 29, 2019
Ttrrffyyghuuh:
Didn't you read the part of her supervisor, Prof Osita Ezawanebe or something?, do honorary Ph.d recipients have supervisors?

Many People will find it hard to believe because of her profession, I heard its a Ph.d in theater arts or so. Its not easy at all. I know because my mom went through this process, from going for seminar to seminar especially when you are working. She would give multiple excuses to take leave from work to meet up with the seminar (you must be present) and would leave her workplace by 5pm to go to Unilag to meet her supervisor in-spite of this nonsense lagos hold-upand would get home by 11pm sometimes 12. The stress is crazy, then there's Apc, Vivre and so on, not really conversant with the terms. Then there are the battle hardened professors throwing horrible questions at you during presentation that would break you down, your supervisor would then try to defend you. I have seen it live and know it's not an easy feat.

I've thought about it before, but at this point in my life i'm not interested in a Ph.d, even masters sef get as e be as B.sc don show me pepper. Maybe my perspective would change over time, I don't know. I wouldn't want a Ph.d so people would keep calling me Dr. upandan, i'm not really interested in research or the academic route, but i know its not easy and admire the guts of those who tread that path.

Congrats to her once again.
A real role model to young Nigerian women, not those other ones


You are one of those pessimist who see nothing good in others, your country or things you are directly affiliated with, you always think they're all inferior.
It says a lot more about your person than her's in this case....

She has bagged a Ph.d in Theatre arts from the university of Lagos. Let you and your danfo driver go and bag your own, or at least perform exceptionally in whatever field you are, let us hear your news on Nairaland and congratulate you, abi you and success get beef?
Na person wey never achieve anything dey quick to bring down people wey don do pass am
Thank u so much for this, I don't know y some pple don't like being happy for oda pple. Even if u are not, must u comment?
Writing my BSc. project was so stressful for me that I submitted a day after convoc list came out. I thank God I graduated cos I was scared of extra year just bc of project n my supervisor was telling me everyday I go to c her that I won't graduate with my mates. After eh, I swore never to enter a Nigerian uni for 'ma' not to talk of 'sters'
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Xisnin(m): 6:38pm On Mar 29, 2019
Deji63:
Who is fooling who? PhD in Nigeria is bagged by the illiterate who can't even construct a sentence in English. It's all about wearing gown& title and answering doctor that their levels of intellect don't match. Her caption says it all "first stand up comedian to bag a phd' That is all Helen Paul couldn't wait to say. PhD my foot .Nigeria is a mess even a danfo driver will bag a PhD if he greases the right palms.
You are the fool.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by femi4: 6:49pm On Mar 29, 2019
Deji63:
Who is fooling who? PhD in Nigeria is bagged by the illiterate who can't even construct a sentence in English. It's all about wearing gown& title and answering doctor that their levels of intellect don't match. Her caption says it all "first stand up comedian to bag a phd' That is all Helen Paul couldn't wait to say. PhD my foot .Nigeria is a mess even a danfo driver will bag a PhD if he greases the right palms.
Nigerians know how to bastardize tinz
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Deji63: 6:55pm On Mar 29, 2019
madridsta007:
Congratulations. You do not write like an academic though. In the academia, it is rare to find an academic disparaging another. Very rare.

That doesn’t invalidate hers, though.
You should know this, if you are an academic.
I don't write like an "academic" but Helen Paul does?

Check this out "Special thanks to University of Lagos, for finding... " Should in fact be written, "Special thanks to the University Of Lagos for... "

See what I am trying to point out about half baked PhD holders? What's that (comma) doing after "Lagos"? "the" should be written before University Of Lagos. That's a Doctorate Degree holder? Only in Nigeria. Perhaps because Theatre Arts isn't such a serious course. Hmm?

I weep for this country. I really do.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Deji63: 6:58pm On Mar 29, 2019
Xisnin:
You are the fool.
Her write up depicts total folly. Nigeria needs help.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by madridsta007(m): 7:05pm On Mar 29, 2019
Deji63:
I don't write like an "academic" but Helen Paul does?

Check this out "Special thanks to University of Lagos, for finding... " Should in fact be written, "Special thanks to the University Of Lagos for... "

See what I am trying to point out about half baked PhD holders? What's that (comma) doing after "Lagos"? "the" should be written before University Of Lagos. That's a Doctorate Degree holder? Only in Nigeria. Perhaps because Theatre Arts isn't such a serious course. Hmm?

I weep for this country. I really do.
We have moved from interrogating Helen Paul's PhD - or the absence of it. Let us accept that hers is problematic, according to you.
Yours, however, if one is to take your claim serious, will be subject to the same critique and consequent doubt, if the standards of PhD's are adhered to. We can concede that, perhaps you may have written in a rush, hence you forgot to put important punctuation marks in your first statement. But then, Helen Paul can make the same arguments too -perhaps, "overcame by the excitement of having a Doctorate" seems fair to me.

However, that is not my point. In the academia, there is an unwritten rule which sees academics refrain from publicly disparaging another, perhaps asides instances such as plagiarism. Hence my initial question.

Do I regard PhDs obtained in Nigeria at the same level as the ones obtained in the West? Certainly not! And there are the REF framework and other measuring models that quantitatively shows the varied distinction. However, this is a systems issue and there are Nigerian academics with PhDs obtained from Nigeria, who have higher research outputs than their colleagues in the West.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Deji63: 7:08pm On Mar 29, 2019
Ttrrffyyghuuh:
Didn't you read the part of her supervisor, Prof Osita Ezawanebe or something?, do honorary Ph.d recipients have supervisors?

Many People will find it hard to believe because of her profession, I heard its a Ph.d in theater arts or so. Its not easy at all. I know because my mom went through this process, from going for seminar to seminar especially when you are working. She would give multiple excuses to take leave from work to meet up with the seminar (you must be present) and would leave her workplace by 5pm to go to Unilag to meet her supervisor in-spite of this nonsense lagos hold-upand would get home by 11pm sometimes 12. The stress is crazy, then there's Apc, Vivre and so on, not really conversant with the terms. Then there are the battle hardened professors throwing horrible questions at you during presentation that would break you down, your supervisor would then try to defend you. I have seen it live and know it's not an easy feat.

I've thought about it before, but at this point in my life i'm not interested in a Ph.d, even masters sef get as e be as B.sc don show me pepper. Maybe my perspective would change over time, I don't know. I wouldn't want a Ph.d so people would keep calling me Dr. upandan, i'm not really interested in research or the academic route, but i know its not easy and admire the guts of those who tread that path.

Congrats to her once again.
A real role model to young Nigerian women, not those other ones


You are one of those pessimist who see nothing good in others, your country or things you are directly affiliated with, you always think they're all inferior.
It says a lot more about your person than her's in this case....

She has bagged a Ph.d in Theatre arts from the university of Lagos. Let you and your danfo driver go and bag your own, or at least perform exceptionally in whatever field you are, let us hear your news on Nairaland and congratulate you, abi you and success get beef?
Na person wey never achieve anything dey quick to bring down people wey don do pass am
I bagged a PhD five years ago. Those who understand know what's going on with the Nigerian education system.

Please go through her write up and check out how Helen Paul punctuates for starters. That's more than enough to prove me right. That's a PhD holder? Low intellectual abilities yet bagging degrees which they cannot defend?

What matters is putting on academic gowns and hanging pictures on their walls and social media for show off. I am sorry for Nigeria.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Deji63: 7:16pm On Mar 29, 2019
madridsta007:
We have moved from interrogating Helen Paul's PhD - or the absence of it. Let us accept that hers is problematic, according to you.
Yours, however, if one is to take your claim serious, will be subject to the same critique and consequent doubt, if the standards of PhD's are adhered to. We can concede that, perhaps you may have written in a rush, hence you forgot to put important punctuation marks in your first statement. But then, Helen Paul can make the same arguments too -perhaps, "overcame by the excitement of having a Doctorate" seems fair to me.

However, that is not my point. In the academia, there is an unwritten rule which sees academics refrain from publicly disparaging another, perhaps asides instances such as plagiarism. Hence my initial question.

Do I regard PhDs obtained in Nigeria at the same level as the ones obtained in the West? Certainly not! And there are the REF framework and other measuring models that quantitatively shows the varied distinction. However, this is a systems issue and there are Nigerian academics with PhDs obtained from Nigeria, who have higher research outputs than their colleagues in the West.
Maybe before the rottening of the system and polity by unscrupulous elements. Helen Paul certainly did not write this in a rush. I bet she read through and gave herself several nods of approval before finally posting.

Nigeria back in the day is not what's obtainable now. I reiterate that we seriously need help. I do not celebrate mediocrity. I am speaking in general terms. Our education system is a big mess save for a few. I know what I am getting at. Nigeria certainly needs a rescue. I tell you.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by madridsta007(m): 7:22pm On Mar 29, 2019
Deji63:
Maybe before the rottening of the system and polity by unscrupulous elements. Helen Paul certainly did not write this in a rush. I bet she read through and gave herself several nods of approval before finally posting.

Nigeria back in the day is not what's obtainable now. I reiterate that we seriously need help. I do not celebrate mediocrity. I am speaking in general terms. Our education system is a big mess save for a few. I know what I am getting at. Nigeria certainly needs a rescue. I tell you.
There is no evidence to suggest that she did not write it in a rush. There is no evidence to suggest that she did.
These are fairly debatable.

What is not debatable is the comatose state of Nigeria's educational system. Unfortunately, Nigeria runs a Presidential System of governance where the type of governance obtainable at the center, easily transmits to the branches and roots. I'm not sure what educational transformation someone with a questionable School Certificate can deliver. We will be deceiving ourselves if we are asking for or expecting anything more than mediocre.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Deji63: 7:44pm On Mar 29, 2019
madridsta007:
There is no evidence to suggest that she did not write it in a rush. There is no evidence to suggest that she did.
These are fairly debatable.

What is not debatable is the comatose state of Nigeria's educational system. Unfortunately, Nigeria runs a Presidential System of governance where the type of governance obtainable at the center, easily transmits to the branches and roots. I'm not sure what educational transformation someone with a questionable School Certificate can deliver. We will be deceiving ourselves if we are asking for or expecting anything more than mediocre.
I am almost certain of her write up being re-read and approved by her before posting. To most so called "academics" being churned out now via the education sector, they must be seen to be perfect as that is how far their level of reasoning takes them. Perfection which only lies in the "eyes of the beholder" considering grammatical blunders and disgracefully punctuated write ups scattered everywhere by our PhD holders.

The likes of Prof. Osinbajo may not get us to the promise land. He will however pave the way for us to get there. Nigeria will be great again.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by madridsta007(m): 8:25pm On Mar 29, 2019
Deji63:
I am almost certain of her write up being re-read and approved by her before posting. To most so called "academics" being churned out now via the education sector, they must be seen to be perfect as that is how far their level of reasoning takes them. Perfection which only lies in the "eyes of the beholder" considering grammatical blunders and disgracefully punctuated write ups scattered everywhere by our PhD holders.

The likes of Prof. Osinbajo may not get us to the promise land. He will however pave the way for us to get there. Nigeria will be great again.
Osinbajo is not the President, unfortunately. He is as handicapped as the man on the streets by virtue of Nigeria's constitution and the sort of person he reports to.

When Helen Paul's PhD news first broke, I remember questioning. I believed it was an honorary doctorate; I found out it wasn't. I muttered a "congratulations" and that was it from me. I do not blame her. I blame the system. She, and many others, are only a product of the system. I suspect if I ask her what "H-index" or "Impact Factor" or "SCOPUS" is, she may not be able to immediately give me an answer.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Aminuabiolamuhd(m): 9:53pm On Mar 29, 2019
Deji63:
Who is fooling who? PhD in Nigeria is bagged by the illiterate who can't even construct a sentence in English. It's all about wearing gown& title and answering doctor that their levels of intellect don't match. Her caption says it all "first stand up comedian to bag a phd' That is all Helen Paul couldn't wait to say. PhD my foot .Nigeria is a mess even a danfo driver will bag a PhD if he greases the right palms.
If it's that easy to bag a PhD, what are you waiting for? People like you spilled like twice before you got your bsc and now you're spewing trash.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Aminuabiolamuhd(m): 10:03pm On Mar 29, 2019
Deji63:
No need to get personal. I feel as though this might be Helen Paul but I do have a PhD from Chicago Illinois. So when I say it's all about the title and greasing in Nigeria I know what I am on about. Nigerian Doctorate Degree Holders are majorly a bunch of idle hands with nothing to do other than acquiring titles that do not match their intellectual abilities when u have a one on one with them. It's the honest truth. Bitter but true.
You may have a PhD from a foreign university but form your initial comment, you're so oblivious about Nigerian institutions. Really u need to apologize for your initial comments where you tried to rubbish Nigerian PhD holders. I'm currently running my Masters in ABU and i have senior colleagues running their PhD aswell. I know the hell, effort and sacrifice were going through. You don't have any right to say such.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Theophinio(m): 10:45pm On Mar 29, 2019
Excellent achievement
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Tinyemeka(m): 11:06pm On Mar 29, 2019
Ishilove:
Is this an academic PhD or honorary PhD? My bet is on the latter.
Did you bother to read her post?
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by ensamy(m): 11:38pm On Mar 29, 2019
Deji63:
I am through and bagged from Chicago Illinois five years ago and I have not been blinded. I know what I mean when I say their degrees do not match their intellectual projections and that is a fact.
Congratulations, I will start mine this year at University of Lagos. Writing my research proposal at the moment on Mycobacterium tuberculosis, although the previous one on Gambusia affinis the fish that feeds on larva on Anopheles gambianse as a possible biological vector control in Lagos Island was not really approved, I decided to work on Tuberculosis. Hopefully this year.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Deji63: 1:09am On Mar 30, 2019
Aminuabiolamuhd:
You may have a PhD from a foreign university but form your initial comment, you're so oblivious about Nigerian institutions. Really u need to apologize for your initial comments where you tried to rubbish Nigerian PhD holders. I'm currently running my Masters in ABU and i have senior colleagues running their PhD aswell. I know the hell, effort and sacrifice were going through. You don't have any right to say such.
You see what I say about intellect? If you had it you should know that every Nigerian is allowed freedom of speech. So I have the right to say what I know is right.

I have not in any way "rubbished" ALL PhD holders who graduated from Nigerian Universities. I am only trying to bring to fore the menace in the PRESENT DAY Nigerian education system occupied majorly by mushroom educationists . It appears as though many graduates being churned out are seriously not worthy of being degree holders.

When you get to the point where you have job interview sessions with some of them you will see things from my point of view.

Helen Paul for instance can't do as little as punctuate appropriately in a write up as short as this yet she's all about the show of a "gown" and a "title" .In her myopic reasoning she actually believes that she is worthy of that degree? Nigeria seriously needs to be rescued ASAP.

The intelligent ones understand me quite well. Piling up degrees that you really cannot defend intellectually is a disgrace to Nigeria as a country.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Deji63:
Aminuabiolamuhd:
If it's that easy to bag a PhD, what are you waiting for? People like you spilled like twice before you got your bsc and now you're spewing trash.
I EARNED mine from Chicago Illinois and all I am on about is putting a stop to this menace of bagging degrees you cannot defend. Check out Helen Paul's punctuations for instance and this is a PhD holder? Nigeria seriously needs a rescue.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by kenenzo: 1:46am On Mar 30, 2019
Congrats to her..she went through a tough professor and I'm proud to call her my mom.yes,I'm Ezenwanebe kenneth,her son.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Deji63: 2:00am On Mar 30, 2019
Ugosample:
I'm surprised you are saying this


Yes a good number of PhD guys in Nigeria get comma

but much more are sound

especially from my alma mater university of Lagos

some of them develop themselves to standard

and are currently on post docs abroad


it's a function of the person really
Did I just read "but MUCH are sound"? You are a a University Of Lagos graduate as well. I weep for this country.

Which way Nigeria?
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by OyiboOyibo(m): 6:55am On Mar 30, 2019
Deji63:
Who is fooling who? PhD in Nigeria is bagged by the illiterate who can't even construct a sentence in English. It's all about wearing gown& title and answering doctor that their levels of intellect don't match. Her caption says it all "first stand up comedian to bag a phd' That is all Helen Paul couldn't wait to say. PhD my foot .Nigeria is a mess even a danfo driver will bag a PhD if he greases the right palms.
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by Ugosample(m): 7:37am On Mar 30, 2019
Deji63:
Did I just read "but MUCH are sound"? You are a a University Of Lagos graduate as well. I weep for this country.

Which way Nigeria?
are you sure you read my comment properly?

I'm not perfect in English

But I'm not a scrub either


continue to gloat in your folly and bask In foolishness


to think that this punk claims to be a PhD holder sef undecided
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by madridsta007(m): 11:54am On Mar 30, 2019
Deji63:
Did I just read "but MUCH are sound"? You are a a University Of Lagos graduate as well. I weep for this country.

Which way Nigeria?
LOL. Deji, you are really riled up.
Been laughing here.

Perhaps, it is down to personalities. I earned my PhD at an Ivy League University. I'm currently a reviewer of 4 top journals in my field of manufacturing [aerospace] as well as an academic at an Ivy League university, however, I will not disparage the PhDs from Africa, let alone Nigeria. It is the system I would blame. Not the "graduates".
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by tad360degrees: 5:55pm On Mar 31, 2019
Ehen, the blackman residing in Chi-town.. I been dey read ur comments abt intellects and Ph.D blah bla blah.. In as mush as my disappointment in ur msgs will nt make u a beta man... pls sit down and think of d childishness yu r displaying... ignorance& sheer prejudice... All for wat, U r in a white mans land bagging sometin worth more dan gold? By Gods Grace ,I'm a Pre-Docta in Finance of the University of Benin, I have degrees in Microsoft technology where d xams are directly programmed frm American Fork ,Utah..
I must say Skools in d US make it eazy for pple wit zeal but here in Africa you hv to b hardcore.. Don't commonize , generalise and criticize...
Even market women in Banjul wnt talk dis way...
In Hollywood atleast 20% of actors and directors bag Ph.D frm all parts of d world, but still showcase deir talents in d most comical and sensible manner...
Pls Ehn U no b Einstein or Darwin so slow down ur roll... Make oyinbo no see ur msg com dey laff us ooh..
B wise...
Re: Helen Paul To Become The First Stand-up Comedian With A PH.d In Nigeria by tuhamworld(m): 8:30am On Apr 01, 2019
Mac2016:
The problem of this country on display with you here. YOU WILL NEVER READ! If you had read, you wont ask this shameful qstn.
What's now painning you there..

No be question i ask

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