Wiseman5:


You better quit ignorance now u still have time. Go and take ur bible and read and discover for yourself how Christianity started and stop believing myths you 're feeding on.
First of all Jesus is the founder of Christianity.
2. The first church was in Jerusalem, where Jesus told them to tary until they were imbued with the Holy Ghost.
3. When Peter converted the largest crowd under the influence of the Holy Ghost on the Pentecost day, the venue was not Rome. Through out Peter's ministry he never visited rome so where on earth are u getting this ur church history?

BabaCommander:
So Mary is his saviour?

Roman catholics are not Christians. They are Roman images worshipping heretics.





This logic lies the error of ROMAN CATHOLICISM.

Christ my King is the foundation of Christianity.
Jesus Christ is the WAY, the TRUTH and LIFE.
No one come to the Father EXCEPT THROUGH HIM
John 14:6

So you can see that it is the Roman Catholics that have denied Jesus.
Any man, or group that claim to have another way to God the Father other than through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ has denied the faith.


Folks, please read your Bible.

Nodogragra4me:
You have come again with your distorted bible defence of ignorance. Somebody sleeping on iron bed is the same as fasting. Sleeping on an iron bed for the sins of the world when the express command is for us all to go into the world and preach the goodnews ... promoting Mary in place of Jesus Christ even when Mary can’t possibly answer the prayer of his households not to mention the entire world

stanwheellz:

God Said To Make Them
People who oppose religious statuary forget about the many passages where the Lord commands the making of statues. For example: “And you shall make two cherubim of gold [i.e., two gold statues of angels]; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece of the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be” (Ex. 25:18–20).
David gave Solomon the plan “for the altar of incense made of refined gold, and its weight; also his plan for the golden chariot of the cherubim that spread their wings and covered the ark of the covenant of the Lord. All this he made clear by the writing of the hand of the Lord concerning it all, all the work to be done according to the plan” (1 Chr. 28:18–19). David’s plan for the temple, which the biblical author tells us was “by the writing of the hand of the Lord concerning it all,” included statues of angels.
Similarly Ezekiel 41:17–18 describes graven (carved) images in the idealized temple he was shown in a vision, for he writes, “On the walls round about in the inner room and [on] the nave were carved likenesses of cherubim.”
The Religious Uses of Images
During a plague of serpents sent to punish the Israelites during the exodus, God told Moses to “make [a statue of] a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and every one who is bitten, when he sees it shall live. So Moses made a bronze serpent, and set it on a pole; and if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live” (Num. 21:8–9).
One had to look at the bronze statue of the serpent to be healed, which shows that statues could be used ritually, not merely as religious decorations.
Catholics use statues, paintings, and other artistic devices to recall the person or thing depicted. Just as it helps to remember one’s mother by looking at her photograph, so it helps to recall the example of the saints by looking at pictures of them. Catholics also use statues as teaching tools. In the early Church they were especially useful for the instruction of the illiterate. Many Protestants have pictures of Jesus and other Bible pictures in Sunday school for teaching children. Catholics also use statues to commemorate certain people and events, much as Protestant churches have three-dimensional nativity scenes at Christmas.

Catholics use d BIBLE
THEY HAVE PRAYER BOOKS JUST LIKE ANY ODA PRAYER

CATHOLICS DONT WORHIP SAINTS BUT TEACH TO PEOPLE EMULATE THE LIFE OF THIS SAINTS
FOR LIVING THE FAITH
(christ like)

CATHOLICS HONOUR MARY JUST AS WE HONOUR OUR MOTHER IN OUR HOMES.


STOP TALKING ILL OF CATHOLICS JUST BCAUSE OF YOUS SMALL BRAIN TO UNDERSTAND.

Nodogragra4me:
The man died bereft of spiritual knowledge. Sleeping on stones and block for the sins of the world.... ignoramus

Tedassie:

The old covenant(Law of sin unto death) you all are making reference to had been overwritten by the new covenant(Covenant of Grace) established through the death and resurrection of Jesus(Yehoshua al-meshiach). So what's the need in engaging in practices that are no longer relevant? No longer relevant in the sense that, Jesus Christ had paid the ultimate sacrifice( propitiation) for our sins and ended the legal rights of Satan to bring accusations to God for which we should pay the divine penalty as such those things we ought to do(according to the 663 statutes and ordinances of Jewish Law) in order to be considered worthy before God were abolished in effect thru the death and resurrection of Christ. You guys are rendering all that Christ did for us on the cross in vain, with all these so-called religious rites, confession of sins, Mary worship bla, bla, bla.

Open your eyes let the Holyspirit guide you. Shalom

stblessing:

[s] May God forgive you for having the guts to accuse and lay false accusations against his church openly. You forget that most of these money based churches sprouting their heads up today are actually from the catholic church. Its pathetic that they have chosen to protest against their head. It reminds me of how Absalom rebelled against David. I just wish God will open your eyes
To see the truth. If there is anything I'm proud of this so called "cult" is that it does not try to deviate from the true doctrines of christianity in order to achieve their selfish needs. Our priests live a humble life but what about your pastors?squandering themselves in material things acting nothing like Jesus. Many of them are already candidates of hell but yet they encourage their members to condemn others. I won't type much,my battery is low. But before I go,I want you to take a good look at your life,that of your church and compare them with the Catholics and then the life of Jesus and you are bound to see a huge difference. Goodnight[/s]

BabaCommander:


Call them what they are, Roman catholics. Calling them catholics distorts their true identity.

brainhgeek:


I have two questions for you before I respond to your response!
1. What is the reason for motification?
2. Is spiritual exercise the same as bodily motification?
3. Who does motification satisy? Men or God?
4. If Jesus is our model and He did not practice bodily motification on Himself, why should we do it?

miketayo:

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lmao are you talking about the corrupted CAN organisation that has completely lost it ways.. the organization was created by the Catholic church in the first place.. its now more of a political organization than a christian one.
catholics dont have there own scriptures there a other passages found in the later years just as each book was compiled to form the 66, there were other lost books which were later found and added..

miketayo:


well according to your definition "A cult is totalitarian in nature and form(people's way of life are tightly-knitted around the rules and regulations, codes of conduct and what have you. Consequences of flouting or showing a total disregard of their rules and regulations come with a punishment)"
Christians ways of life should emulate Jesus Christ (people's way of life are tightly-knitted around the rules and regulations, codes of conduct) and u if u sin you are liable to goto Hell (Consequences of flouting or showing a total disregard of their rules and regulations come with a punishment)

as u can see you just proved my point, just because there are some bad cult groups doesnt mean the word cultism applies to something evil..
here is the definition according to Google (a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object). doesnt that sound like all religions ?

Ubenedictus:
Jesus' death is the very reason christian practice mortification (puting to death the desires of the flesh and training the spirit man) by grace! We fast also to put the flesh under the domination of the spirit.

Tedassie:

Catholicism among others replaced the gospel, the new covenant of Grace with the Law of sin unto death. So they are under the curse of the Law!

HeyCorleone:


So if Eminem never said that you wouldn't know?

Some of you are just breathing disappointments.

Tedassie:

Catholicism among others replaced the gospel, the new covenant of Grace with the Law of sin unto death. So they are under the curse of the Law!

Ubenedictus:
1. one of its aim is to subject d flesh to d spirit.
2. yes just as the tire is part of a car, so is mortification part of spiritual exercise.
3. God, a body under d spirit glorify God.
4. yes, Jesus fasted 4 40 days.

youngbravian:
from her son jesus Chris to God, why don't they call on God direct

Tedassie:

The old covenant(Law of sin unto death) you all are making reference to had been overwritten by the new covenant(Covenant of Grace) established through the death and resurrection of Jesus(Yehoshua al-meshiach). So what's the need in engaging in practices that are no longer relevant? No longer relevant in the sense that, Jesus Christ had paid the ultimate sacrifice( propitiation) for our sins and ended the legal rights of Satan to bring accusations to God for which we should pay the divine penalty as such those things we ought to do(according to the 663 statutes and ordinances of Jewish Law) in order to be considered worthy before God were abolished in effect thru the death and resurrection of Christ. You guys are rendering all that Christ did for us on the cross in vain, with all these so-called religious rites, confession of sins, Mary worship bla, bla, bla.

Open your eyes let the Holyspirit guide you. Shalom

Tedassie:
Catholicism is a cult!!! I repeat CATHOLICISM IS A CULT!!!!

FLEE FROM CATHOLICISM NOW.
Jesus loves you!!!

brainhgeek:


You sounded some valid points. Now we can get started. I wanted to get your definition of mortification clearly before knowing how to rwsponse. To many Catholics, it includes mutilating your body whereas it is subjecting your desires to focus and be on the same page with God. Mortification should not be mutilation.
However, mortification/spiritual exercise is not for God's benefits but for our benefit. He is God by Himself. Mortification or not, our worship or not, He doesn't diminish in personality.
My initial argument about mortification was sparked by the fact that the late founder of block rosary slept on iron bed and block pillow because of the sin of the world. Sir, God is not appeased by that. He has given us just one solution, Jesus. Perfection is not by the flesh Galatians 3:3.

Miarose:
The church agrees that no one comes to the Father except through JESUS. Catholism does not teach that Mary is a way to the father. Our choice to honor her as guided by the church is not a sin. Please stop searching for a speck in our eye. Thank you.

stanwheellz:
This man taught kids through the BLOCK ROSARY


HE CAUGHT DEM YOUNG AND BUILT DIA FAITH

THAT ALONE IS A BIG DEAL.

AND ALL YOU DO IS TALK ILL OF HIM AND CALL HIS PENANCE AS IGNORANT.

YOU LEFT THE TRUTH AND START CONDEMNING THE CATHOLICS FOR LAME REASONS

SORRY TO SAY THIS YOU ARE ALL IGNORANT OF GOD'S LOVE

CHRIST LIKE = CHRISTIANS = CHRIST DIED FOR THE WORLD = THISAN SUFFERED TILL DEATH
DAT WAS HIS CHOICE.

LET THE CATHOLICS BE

THEY DONT WORSHIP MARY
THEY HONOUR HER

stanwheellz:


You lack wisdom if only you know what the BLOCK ROSARY is then you would know kids he brought closer to christ...... You are d IGNORAMUS UP AND DOWN, IN AND OUT