If you can believe Jubril El Sudani, it will be daft of you not believe Seggasse Atiku Al Cameroonie

Levant:


Do you have evidence Daura wasnt part of Nigeria as at 1960? Or do you have evidence Buhari wasnt actually born in daura? If you have evidence bring it forward. The thing is Atiku himself isn't denying that he was born in Jada.

the thing is buhari was born before 1960

Levant:


Do you have evidence Daura wasnt part of Nigeria as at 1960? Or do you have evidence Buhari wasnt actually born in daura? If you have evidence bring it forward. The thing is Atiku himself isn't denying that he was born in Jada.

Why will he deny that he was born in jada? That said, Everybody from Adamawa state currently holding any office should quit. They're not Nigerians.


Later you'll come up with that stale and lame line that I'm neither APC or PDP... ooh please

Do you know what?? Levant you're right. Had it been the plebiscite was conducted 1960 or 195... or there about. Or Atiku was giving birth to after 1961 He could have justified himself. This stuff is politically motivated. Nnamdi Kanu is something else.

Nigeria is a combination of african tribes like other african countries; e depend on how the sharers take feel that day. Naija as we call it could have been in many other configuration eg with the whole cameroon and benin, or part of naija and benin republic, or part of naija and cameroon, or with niger or chad or CAR or with togo, etc.


So anybody grandpapa wey from congo or kenya or sA wey been dey naija for 1960 and beyond, maybe because of transport fare or job, dun turn naija be dat with the generations to follow.


E funny because it was supposed to be a thing of pride, now even d president of nigeria no mind go born him pikin anywhere outside of africa, as in make him go secure the pikin future, as in naija dun hopeless. If person fit renounce them citizenship to leave nigeria, that one na small task, wetin i dey talk sef, dat koko dun dey parole since.

What I can say about this Atiku case is that the power that be just want the man to spend more while trying to fight in a case he will never win in his entire life.

naijapips04:
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so what indigenous Nigerian community does Buhari's father, a fulani marauder belong to?

President Buhari is from Daura,the original Hausa Caliphate,na them get Nigeria,Real Hausa Fulani,not like the masquerading atiku.

amaniro:
Do you know what?? Levant you're right. Had it been the plebiscite was conducted 1960 or 195... or there about. Or Atiku was giving birth to after 1961 He could have justified himself. This stuff is politically motivated. Nnamdi Kanu is something else.

Remember atiku started it.sadly or happily,nnamdi kanu is like a prophet,a messianic fellow of sort.he will gain more ground after this

sapele914:
President Buhari is from Daura,the original Hausa Caliphate,na them get Nigeria,Real Hausa Fulani,not like the masquerading atiku.

so Buhari is Hausa? you well so? What Nigerian indigenous tribe is buhari's father from?

amaniro:



Why will he deny that he was born in jada? That said, Everybody from Adamawa state currently holding any office should quit. They're not Nigerians.


Later you'll come up with that stale and lame line that I'm neither APC or PDP... ooh please

Everybody from adamawa is qualified to hold any post in nigeria but those born before 1961 are not qualified to be presidents while those born from 1962 like aisha are qualified.spot the difference

naijapips04:


so Buhari is Hausa? you well so? What Nigerian indigenous tribe is buhari from?

Before amalgamation,daura was part of the northern protectorate while jada was part of german ruled camerouun.after the amalgamation,daura was still part of nigeria and wholly indigenous to nigeria.fulanis before the coming of the british were part of nigeria.re?ember the sokoto jihad? Anyway,buhari origin is not in contention in any court but that of atiku.

baralatie:

the thing is buhari was born before 1960

The constitution explained that clearly.those born in nigeria before or after 1960 or those whose parents were from nigerian.for instance the ex cjn onnoghen was born in ghana in 1940 but because his parents are ancestrally from nigeria,he is nigerian by birth.nigeria officially stsrted in 1914 and buhari was born in daura which was part of nigerian and even part of the northern protectorate which existed before 1914.

Therefore, the legal implication of the 1961 plebiscite is that all communities of the “British Cameroon” are deemed to be communities indigenous to Nigeria. In fact, the people in Northern Cameroon were not part of the Republic of Cameroon, but they belonged to a geographical territory controlled by the British Colonial masters.

To buttress the argument canvassed above, Section 10 of the 1963 Constitution is to the effect that those who became Nigerians by virtue of the February 1961 plebiscite are deemed to be citizens of Nigeria by birth and their communities are indigenous to Nigeria.

So Atiku is a Nigerian!!!! Our incoming presido

neyobills:


Atiku are his Jada people are Nigerians by birth because it's the same Brirish people that colonized everyone in present day Nigeria, until you can prove that Jada was colonized by the French then we can start to take u serious

Sai MAILAFIYA sai Atiku I love that

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pstjoga:
Therefore, the legal implication of the 1961 plebiscite is that all communities of the “British Cameroon” are deemed to be communities indigenous to Nigeria. In fact, the people in Northern Cameroon were not part of the Republic of Cameroon, but they belonged to a geographical territory controlled by the British Colonial masters.

To buttress the argument canvassed above, Section 10 of the 1963 Constitution is to the effect that those who became Nigerians by virtue of the February 1961 plebiscite are deemed to be citizens of Nigeria by birth and their communities are indigenous to Nigeria.

So Atiku is a Nigerian!!!! Our incoming presido

lesson

Well, that remains your opinion. You can't decide for everyone, and you're not a judge in a court of law.

Let a court of competent jurisdiction decide if he's qualified to be a Nigerian, or not.


I hope our lawmakers see how controversial and porous our constitution is. That's what happens when you copy and paste constitution like it's chemistry assignment.

We need to scrap this constitution, and make another one where we correct the loopholes in the present constitution.

Atiku is a Cameroonian ..argue with your accestor

NgeneUkwenu:


What are you insinuating? Are you more learned than the 18 SANs on APC defence team?

with your disgraceful show of shame on the social media, what kind of example are you laying for your kids as a mother?

Would you want your kids to also display shamelessness like you?

naijapips04:


Exactly. BC was never harnessed by the french or the cameroonians. They were never a country of their own. The only country they've been part of has been Nigeria. These territories including BC and other parts of Nigeria were formerly known as Royal Niger Company Territories .

No, Jada was part of Ganye which was in Adamawa which was a UN mandate territory.

When you talk about Royal Niger Company holdings...those were territories that Royal Niger Company owned and later sold off to the colonial authorities who then integrated them into the pre-existing colony and protectorate of Nigeria. An example of a RNC territory is Wawa and Ngwa areas, now in SE Nigeria.

The UN mandate territory of Adamawa was never a RNC territory. In fact Germany was their colonial master. Germany lost it after its defeat in 1st world war. So Atiku's grand parents and parents were subjects of Germany just as our great and grand parents were subjects of British colonial government.

MetaPhysical:


No, Jada was part of Ganye which was in Adamawa which was a UN mandate territory.

When you talk about Royal Niger Company holdings...those were territories that Royal Niger Company owned and later sold off to the colonial authorities who then integrated them into the pre-existing colony and protectorate of Nigeria. An example of a RNC territory is Wawa and Ngwa areas, now in SE Nigeria.

The UN mandate territory of Adamawa was never a RNC territory. In fact Germany was their colonial master. Germany lost it after its defeat in 1st world war. So Atiku's grand parents and parents were subjects of Germany just as our great and grand parents were subjects of British colonial government.

Jada doesn't belong to Nigeria you say, but does Jada has a representative at the Senate and House of Representatives? Are you saying the people of Jada cannot vote and be voted for?

naijapips04:


can you cite the exact section that disqualifies him? I am waiting for your argument.

I will. Im in store, give me time to get in car. The response will be detailed, not something i want to type on phone. In fact maybe when i get home. Give me about 2 to 2and half hrs.

rock003:


with your disgraceful show of shame on the social media, what kind of example are you laying for your kids as a mother?

Would you want your kids to also display shamelessness like you?

Mynd44 rule 2

Levant:
I am neither APC nor PDP. Let me give by own opinion as a neutral observer.

I think Atiku has lost this. Not because he is not a Nigerian, but because there is a loophole in the constitution that cannot allow him to be regarded as a Nigerian by birth. The constitution is silent about the fate of those born before independence in a town like Jada, that only became a part of Nigeria after a plebiscite, in which the people chose to be part of Nigeria and not part of Cameroon.

Jada was ruled by Britain. It is similar to the issue of Kashmir that is disputed territory between Pakistan and India. The difference with Kashmir is that the will of the people of British Cameroon prevailed and they joined Nigeria. The Kashmiris have not been allowed to voice whom they want to join or whether to be independent. For the mere fact that Britain had ruled that land alongside with Nigeria doesn't make it a part of Nigeria that got independence in 1960. That land was part of German ruled Cameroon which was divided after the German defeat of world war 1 between France and Britain. When Nigeria was amalgamated by the British, that piece of land was ruled by Germany. Assuming today Ghanaians say they want to be part of Nigeria for the mere fact that they speak English and were British ruled, there would be need for the constitution to specifically recognize the Ghanaians born before 2019 as "Nigerians by birth" after joining Nigeria in 2019. If the constitution is silent on their fate, and the constitution states that for someone to become president he must be a Nigerian by birth, then Ghanaians born before 2019 cannot claim to have been born in Nigeria. Only those of Ghanaian descent born after 2019 would be considered as Nigerians by birth because Ghana ceased to be Ghana and became Nigeria only in 2019.

Assuming the constitution had stipulated that those born in a land that later joined Nigeria can also be considered Nigerians by birth, then the issue would be resolved easily. But the constitution is silent. And since Atiku was born in a land before independence that was not a part of Nigeria, then Atiku is not a Nigerian by birth but by naturalisation, more or less. Those born in Jada after independence and after the plebiscite of 1961 can thus be regarded as Nigerian citizens by birth, but not someone like Atiku who was born there before the plebiscite. Assuming, the constitution would have made mention specifically about the fate of such persons as Atiku and granted them right to be considered as citizens by birth, then it won't have been an issue. Laws are only formulated when there is need or through an event or incident. It doesn't mean Atiku is not a Nigerian and it doesn't mean Atiku is a Cameroonian because that land ceased to be a part of Cameroon after world war 1 and the defeat of the Germans. What became Cameroon was divided between France and Britain. and that land wasnt Cameroon after British rule. So Atiku is Nigerian but not by birth. And he is not to be considered Cameroonian either. It only means that since the Nigerian constitution is silent on the specific, Atiku is not eligible to become Nigeria's President. The president must be Nigerian by birth.

Whoever thought of this and decided to pick it up is a genius. And Atiku will lose it. It is just on the fact that he is not eligible to be Nigeria's president even though he is Nigerian but not by birth.

I like your articulation and submission.

Cheers!

naijapips04:


so Buhari is Hausa? you well so? What Nigerian indigenous tribe is buhari's father from?

Mr stop comparing apples with oranges. Nigeria did not start in1960. There has been Nigeria since 1914 when amalgamation of Southern and Northern Protectorates took place. Buhari was born in Daura, his father from Daura and Daura belonged to the Northern Protectorate making Daura an indigenous Nigerian territory before independence. This is what makes Buhari a Nigerian citizen by birth. Atiku on the other hand was born in Jada (his parents from there also), which was obviously not in the Northern Protectorate but in British Cameroon, hence it wasn't an indigenous Nigerian territory before independence. It only became one in 1961 by virtue of plebiscite. This is why Atiku is NOT a Nigerian citizen by birth.

naijapips04:


can you cite the exact section that disqualifies him? I am waiting for your argument.

Ok bro.

I am going to keep this answer very short.

Between 1960 and 2019 we have had the following Constitutions.

The Constitution of 1960 - Which introduced Parliamentary System of Government. Even though we were independent The Queen remained our Head of State. This was not acceptable and so brought in a new constitution.

The Constitution of 1963 (1st Republic) - The Federation of Nigeria was renamed Federal Republic of Nigeria and The Queen removed as our Head of State in preference for an indigenous one. In January 1966 we had a coup that terminated 1st Republic and brought in Military and the Constitution of 1963 was abolished. The Military ruled with Decrees.

The Constitution of 1979 (2nd Republic) - Military handed power back to Civilians. We created a new Constitution and adopted American System of Government, Democracy. In December 1983 another Coup sacked the 2nd Republic and terminated the Constitution. We went back to Military Decrees.

The Constitution of 1993 (3rd Republic) - MKO won the election to return from Military to Civilian rule but Banbangida killed the 3rd Republic before it even started. The Constitution of 1993 was thus never implemented. An Interim Government was set up but it did not last before Abacha took over and prolonged Military rule. We returned to Civilian rule in 1999.

The Constitution of 1999 (4th Republic) - This Constitution is the current and only living law of the land as we speak, any other Constitution prior to it are dead and invalid and cannot be applied to conduct Government or to adjudicate. In 2011 President Jonathan signed two Amendments to law, thus it is now referred as The Constitution of 1999 as Amended.


Atiku's eligibility for the Presidency is addressed by the current Constitution. Unless we return Government and the Sovereingty wholesale to the Constitution of 1963, you cannot pick and choose items from it to address in court.

Atiku is still not qualified to be President of Nigeria.

rock003:




Atiku isn't from Nigeria, but INEC conducted election in Atiku's local government; yet, INEC declared a winner of the election in Atiku's local government; yet, FIRS collect tax from Atiku's local government; yet that local government has a representative at the Senate and House of Representatives.

Aren't you feeling like an idiot each time you make these stupid statements?

Why do you make it look like those who call you a useful idiot are not correct?

let me correct you first before i report.
since 1961 adamawa is part of Nigeria and and anybody born from 1961 in adamawa can contest any election even to the level of president.

baralatie:

the thing is buhari was born before 1960

anybody born within Nigeria before 1960 is qualified to contest.

amaniro:



Why will he deny that he was born in jada? That said, Everybody from Adamawa state currently holding any office should quit. They're not Nigerians.


Later you'll come up with that stale and lame line that I'm neither APC or PDP... ooh please

only those born before 1960 are affected, but those holding any position like SSG born before 1960 are not affected, which also means the current SSG can not contest for president.