raumdeuter:


If Robb killed Jamie and other Lannisters without condemning Karstarks, The Karstarks wouldnt have left him

His foolishness by being merciful to Lannisters who killed his father was the reason most of his men left him

Then the Karstarks joined forces with the Bolton’s.

Remind me what Jon did to them again?

raumdeuter:


Who would have killed Jamie?

mother dragons

Ksslib:

I also do not blame Tyrion. He had every reason to believe Cersei has a new reason to live for. I'm assuming she lost the baby at a certain point. That's the only logical explanation for the irrational behavior we saw in the first episode I'm guessing.

I never believed that pregnancy talk for once. Right from season 07 when Tyrion first made that crazy leap of deduction, my immediate reaction was "Imp bro, you've just been played."

larride:


Then the Karstarks joined forces with the Bolton’s.

Remind me what Jon did to them again?

The Karstaks bent the knee and apologized like Danerys asked the Tarlys to do

What did Jon do to Ramsay?

sod09:
mother dragons

Yes if he didnt bend the knee

Jamie would have been burnt barbeque if not for Bronn who dived and saved him from sure roasting

raumdeuter:

The Karstaks bent the knee and apologized like Danerys asked the Tarlys to do

What did Jon do to Ramsay?

Different battle, different situation.

Ramsay killed Rickon and raped Sansa. His father killed Catelyn Stark. They had to claim whatsoever to Winterfell.

How is that situation the same as the Tarly situation?

GMan650:
How you react when you see an old friend

Jamie(sister fvcker) is ready to pay for his sins.The old Jamie is dead,the new Jamie cares about others.

Yonce:


Lmao
Jon specifically said she has three dragons.
Unsullied.
Dothraki.
All of which are needed if they stood a chance against NK.
If Dany was an elephant or a goat, he'd still bend the knee cause he doesn't want to be king.

Jon realized she had all that as soon as he arrived Dragonstone, yet he refused to bend the knee. He finished mining dragonglass AND sailed north, and still did not bend the knee. Then along comes Dany sallying forth on not one, not two, but three freaking dragons to save his bacon... and our King in the North finally has a eureka moment.

We can sugarcoat it all we want but the glaring fact is Jon made that decision based on emotion - he fell in love with the woman who would sacrifice her children to save people. And so he bent the knee.

kay9:


I never believed that pregnancy talk for once. Right from season 07 when Tyrion first made that crazy leap of deduction, my immediate reaction was "Imp bro, you've just been played."

Same here,Cersei is too desperate,she can say or do anything for power.I'm happy Salsa didn't fall for Cersei deception.

larride:


The battle had ended, they are her prisoner already. Why was she in stupid hurry for them to bend the kneel or die? Even after the man told him he’s Randyll Tarly it House Tarly. A very famous house, she still think he will just bend the kneel like that?

What happened to diplomatic strategy? Turning the Tarlys into her ally? Or because she has dragons and the dothraki she doesn’t need allies right? That was a very stupid decision from her part.

So if all the other soldiers had not bend the kneel, she would have killed them all right?

What’s the difference between her and the Mad King then?

There is nothing like diplomatic strategy here. It is a game of power. For them to bend the knee shows that they accept her. They did not accept her as their Queen, hence the refusal to bend the knee.

What Dany wanted was acceptance which could make an alliance The whole problem was Dany use of words. It would have been better if she had say, Swear your allegiance to me.Obviously, they will bend the knee by doing that. .But she is more concerned about superiority than convincing them. .

alexistaiwo:
I was speaking within the context of the series.
How old was he (Joffrey) in the series?


I am sure that the devil was taking notes while watching the Ramsey Bolton character at work

Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Ksslib:


First Arya walks in and tells the hound to let Gendry be.

Second. Arya : "that was a nice ax you made for him. You've gotten better"

( You should know by now that Arya is not one for small talk except it's your eulogy. Waldo Frey comes to mind)

Gendry: "So do you **stammers** . I mean you look good"

Arya: Thanks .. So do you..

(Waiiiitt!!!! Hol up hol up!!!. The only thing Arya verbally admires is her Valyrian steel. Do you get?)

Gendry: " It's not a bad place to grow up( winterfell ) if it wasn't so cold

Arya: "Stay close to that forge then"

Gendry : " Is that a command Lady Stark?"

Arya : *stern expression* " don't call me that"

Gendry: " As you wish mi Lady"

Arya then smiles. Inshort she more than blushed. The expression she had on her face was so pure, sweet & genuine that for a moment I thought she swapped the one the producers told her to use for her & Jon's reunion on Gendry.

Gendry: *after holding her Valyrian steel "I always knew you were just another rich girl "

Arya: " You dont know any other rich girls"

Then walks to the exit, turns to give Gendry one kain sultry look and continues walking.

By "I was always knew you were just another rich girl" Gendry is subtly implying that he's been with a lot of girls. Arya is like nope, see this my virgin sweet boy, you wey I don dey reason tey tey. Once again Arya engaging in small talk that doesn't involve death.

Arya's emotions might be as stiff as two-days old Eba when it comes to the opposite sex, more reason why when she tries to be flexible, as we have just seen, people are bound to take notice.

Lol. Isn't it pretty obvious that both of them were flirting, Arya most esp?

This blindness can only be excused & forgiven if you're Sheldon Cooper from The Big bang Theory. Lol

Guy forget all this talk, Gentry and Arya will only happen in your dreams

I haven't even seen any1 hinting this on Reddit


And those guys know their onions more than people here

Jwonder:


Did you take it into contest that no one in the North has ever seen a Dragon, so how do you expect her to know what they eat, and Danny was cocky with her answer.
I loved Danny but she's beginning to look like she's got the trait of the Mad King.

so her wisdom has limitations?


Forget that talk, only a dunce will ask such questions


What else asides meat will a dragon eat?

Salad and fries?

bond77:

I think she deserves the new role of wits and smartness.. since the beginning of the series she has always been The fool, the dumb, the weak and gullible.. and I Don't think David and weiss are forcing her changed demeanor..she gradually developed it right from season 6 during the battle of the bastard all through season 7 during LF death. now season 8 ..viola !! she's become super smart. I like the new sansa! but at the end all this attributes are useless on the battlefield.. what westros need now are living soldiers to fight the great war not wits.

As for the tyrion treatment, I see no biggie there.. you don't expect sansas to start hugging him when their supposed marriage was forced and I think he's gradually losing his sense of wonder and captivation it was even glaring when he was addressing the lords of the north..let's just say Game of thrones has a way of killing the love and interest we have for our favorite characters.

Let's go deep.
Battle of Bastards: Why didn't Sansa inform Jon on the plans? Remember Jon said 'We have to work with what(soldiers) we have. How do we get more men? Any ideas?(not the exact words)but Sansa kept quiet. Go rewatch.

Now to Directors forcing it on us: No one knows Cersei more than Tyrion(you know this) but they had to make Sansa see so much to belittle Tyrion.

Most importantly: Arya who has lived with Tywin Lannister(the most sensible man in the show) and Jacquen Haegar plus many others to refer to Sansa as the smartest person she ever met is just plain dumb.
Trying to call us that have been watching retarded?

They should just let her flow.

iamJ:
so her wisdom has limitations?


Forget that talk, only a dunce will ask such questions


What else asides meat will a dragon eat?

Salad and fries?

Jwonder:


You obviously don't know what flirting is? Did you see her smile, did you see the way she looked at him.. lol show any female around you that clip and they would tell you Arya is low-key shooting her shot

do you know the age Gap between Arya and gendry?


Do you think that gendry is a teen?


Arya will end up at Bravos alone and happy


Stop trying to force a romance that isn't there

JhyMedex:


u said my mind bruh...Joffrey was such a great actor...I bet no one cos av interpreted dt role the way he did...U jst enjoyed hating him..Dude was attacked in public on more than 1 occasion cos of d vim wit which he portrayed the Jeffrey character..All doz times I had to rewatch GOT I watched him very closely n I fell in love wit d character eventually...Its such a shame dude has decided to stop acting entirely..rily a big loss..


Lena Heady is phenomenal...like she cldnt av portrayed cersie beta...I 4 one believe from season 4 she shld av bn winning best actress in a tv series 4 3yrs consecutively ...

He didn't really quit solely because of the hate and treats, he wanted to further his education, back in 2005 he already said he would quit acting and further his education after the end of his contract with GOT

Jwonder:


You're obviously the one who isn't watching it because everyone clearly See's Danny as trying to force her Queenish (permit me to use dat word) down everyone's throat, did you hear her reply when she complained to Jon that Sansa doesn't like her, and be truthful if Jon was in her shoes will he had killed Sams family..
Let us just wait and see her reaction when they finally tell her Jon is the true King of the Seven Kingdoms but i have a feeling Jon might try to hide it from her for the sake of the war coming.

Dany deserves the accolades, do you know what she has been thru

Every problem Sansa had she created for herself

Dany left home with nothing and came back with an army


Sansa left with a prince and came back with nothing

Who is Sansa where Dany is


Dany is her queen, if Sansa doesn't show respect, we will use her to quench drogon hunger

Seunpaul01:


There is nothing like diplomatic strategy here. It is a game of power. For them to bend the knee shows that they accept her. They did not accept her as their Queen, hence the refusal to bend the knee.

What Dany wanted was acceptance which could make an alliance The whole problem was Dany use of words. It would have been better if she had say, Swear your allegiance to me.Obviously, they will bend the knee by doing that. .But she is more concerned about superiority than convincing them. .

That’s why I said she was more concerned with bending the kneel than any other thing in that particular scene.

If I remember that scene correctly, she started by telling them that whatever Cersei might have told them about her was wrong as she’s not here to destroy them and their villages and the next thing was “Bend the kneel or Die”.

Yes, Cersei was very correct about her.

HanksAnuku:


Sansa accomplished what sorry?

When Sansa told Reek about the candle, what did he do? Maybe you should re-watch that episode

When Reek found Sansa coming back from the tower, he was taking her back to her room until they were busted by Miranda.

Obviously, at that point he knew he had to do something because his own neck was on the line.

If Miranda had nor busted them, Reek was bundling Sansa back into captivity. Don't try and claim anything else here abeg

It's obviously YOU should rewatch that episode, because the bolded statement never happened. Sansa lit the candle watched Stanis defeat and headed back probably to her room b4 Miranda AND Reek stopped her. Miranda was threatening her all the while Sansa was looking at Reek. Before he intervened and threw Miranda down.

Reeks action was obviously due to the ground work Sansa had laid prior to that event. Cause this was the same guy that couldn't run to save his ass.

I see how you conveniently clipped my original post. However hard they try the truth can't be ignored.

iamJ:
so her wisdom has limitations?


Forget that talk, only a dunce will ask such questions


What else asides meat will a dragon eat?

Salad and fries?

If obvious you're veiwing from the normal viewer angle, put yourself in the character! In that world at that time/ generation no one has ever seen a dragon.
Let me ask, if someone brings an animal you've never seen in your life before, will asking what the animal eats make you a dunce ?

larride:


Different battle, different situation.

Ramsay killed Rickon and raped Sansa. His father killed Catelyn Stark. They had to claim whatsoever to Winterfell.

How is that situation the same as the Tarly situation?

Ramsay killed Rickon, Just like Tarlys killed her soldiers

The Tarlys betrayed the Tyrells and aligned with the Lannisters who occupy her fathers throne

She offered them a chance to live,

Which Jon never offerred Ramsay or the 4 men who stabbed him

melodyogonna:

they fought a battle oga, she gave them a choice, that is the way of war. though I agree she might have imprisoned dickon and burn only the father.

Actually, that is NOT the way of war in Westeros.

In the heat of battle, ANYONE may be killed or maimed. But afterwards, especially if they put down their arms, the NOBLES are imprisoned in dungeons, the HEADS of the Houses (Lords) may or may not be killed depending on how stubborn they are (Lord Tarly qualifies as stubborn, so he will be most likely be executed). But the SONS/DAUGHTERS of the Lords are excellent bargaining pieces; no matter how hot-headed they are, if they are the ONLY son/daughter, then you simply cannot afford to kill them, else you will extinguish that House forever - and no, Samwell doesn't count as a second son, he is a Sworn Brother.

My point is, Daenerys made a grave error. If you hope to win people's loyalty, then you simply cannot exterminate their lineage like that. Tyrion said as much. You only do that if you want to rule by making them fear you, like Tywin did.

Please where can I download this current season. Thanks

larride:


That’s why I said she was more concerned with bending the kneel than any other thing in that particular scene.

If I remember that scene correctly, she started by telling them that whatever Cersei might have told them about her was wrong as she’s not here to destroy them and their villages and the next thing was “Bend the kneel or Die”.

Yes, Cersei was very correct about her.

Bend the knee simply means surrender and accept me as your leader

kay9:


Actually, that is NOT the way of war.

In the heat of battle, ANYONE may be killed or maimed. But afterwards, especially if they put down their arms, the NOBLES are imprisoned in dungeons, the HEADS of the Houses (Lords) may or may not be killed depending on how stubborn they are (Lord Tarly qualifies as stubborn, so he will be most likely be executed). But the SONS/DAUGHTERS of the Lords are excellent bargaining pieces; no matter how hot-headed they are, if they are the ONLY son/daughter, then you simply cannot afford to kill them, else you will extinguish that House forever - and no, Samwell doesn't count as a second son, he is a Sworn Brother.

My point is, Daenerys made a grave error. If you hope to win people's loyalty, then you simply cannot exterminate their lineage like that. Tyrion said as much. You only do that if you want to rule by making them fear you, like Tywin did.

Thank you sir. The fact that the battle has ended and these people are Noble men calls for caution. Randyll should have died but not Dickon.

Sultan5:


It's obviously YOU should rewatch that episode, because the bolded statement never happened. Sansa lit the candle watched Stanis defeat and headed back probably to her room b4 Miranda AND Reek stopped her. Miranda was threatening her all the while Sansa was looking at Reek. Before he intervened and threw Miranda down.

Reeks action was obviously due to the ground work Sansa had laid prior to that event. Cause this was the same guy that couldn't run to save his ass.

I see how you conveniently clipped my original post. However hard they try the truth can't be ignored.

Bros go and rewatch the episode again

Reek clearly tells Sansa to go back to her room with Miranda.

When Sansa refuses, Reek knows he's in trouble because he would have been personally held responsible.

I had to clip your post because it was completely irrelevant to anything I said.

kay9:


Actually, that is NOT the way of war.

In the heat of battle, ANYONE may be killed or maimed. But afterwards, especially if they put down their arms, the NOBLES are imprisoned in dungeons, the HEADS of the Houses (Lords) may or may not be killed depending on how stubborn they are (Lord Tarly qualifies as stubborn, so he will be most likely be executed). But the SONS/DAUGHTERS of the Lords are excellent bargaining pieces; no matter how hot-headed they are, if they are the ONLY son/daughter, then you simply cannot afford to kill them, else you will extinguish that House forever - and no, Samwell doesn't count as a second son, he is a Sworn Brother.

My point is, Daenerys made a grave error. If you hope to win people's loyalty, then you simply cannot exterminate their lineage like that. Tyrion said as much. You only do that if you want to rule by making them fear you, like Tywin did.

larride:


Thank you sir. The fact that the battle has ended and these people are Noble men calls for caution. Randyll should have died but not Dickon.

How many of thse courtesy did they offer to house Targaryan when they were eliminating them?
How many did they offer to House Baratheon?

All the people left in those 2 great families who once ruled all fled and are in hiding

So the courtesy that no one gave her Targaryan family she should gove to one Tarly family
Did anyone even offer her the chance to bend the knee and be saved when they were wiping out her family?

iamJ:
do you know the age Gap between Arya and gendry?


Do you think that gendry is a teen?


Arya will end up at Bravos alone and happy


Stop trying to force a romance that isn't there

Haha it obvious you only just started watching GOT, the character Arya is only 5 years younger than Gendry. I'm not talking about real age oh! Character age

raumdeuter:


Bend the knee simply means surrender and accept me as your leader

They had already been captured Dayo. The battle has ended. Dany has won the battle. Killing Dickon was senseless on her part.

Ask yourself how did Tarly abandoned the Tyrell and went to fight for the Lannister’s. It’s not every time you burn burn. She’s a Targaryen though so it’s in her blood.

Jwonder:


Haha it obvious you only just started watching GOT, the character Arya is only 5 years younger than Gendry. I'm not talking about real age oh! Character age

I just started watching the show?

Me?


Let me not respond to that


I will investigate the ages and get back to you