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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by kay9(m): 9:36pm On Apr 15, 2019
Elder0001:



How does being male make him true heir to the throne ? Is Danny not older ?

Danny is directly the child of the mad king .

Misogyny and patriarchy has taken over your brain

Misogyny AND patriachy are actually the norm here.

In Westerosi, the male heir supersedes the female, even if he is younger. The female only rules when there aren't any more males.

Jorah Mormont had an elder sister but he was Lord of Bear Island after his father until Ned Stark ran him off, then the elder sister (little Lyanna Mormont's mother) took over until she "died".

Cercei was the elder yet Jamie was named to be Lord of Casterly Rock until he unwittingly joined the Kingsguard, then Tyrion started gingering for the position - even though Cercei was still there.

To further muddy the waters, the Seven Kingdoms have an unwritten rule that no female heir shall seat the Iron Throne...

But of course Dany has 2 dragons while Jon has zero. So let's see what happens. cool

By the way, wtf is @Gbola when you need him for some history lessons??
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 9:37pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


They had already been captured Dayo. The battle has ended. Dany has won the battle. Killing Dickon was senseless on her part.

Ask yourself how did Tarly abandoned the Tyrell and went to fight for the Lannister’s. It’s not every time you burn burn. She’s a Targaryen though so it’s in her blood.

When Jamie killed her father the mad king what did they do to her family? Why did she and her brother have to flee? Did anyone give them the option to bend the knee and live?

What of House Baratheon, how many of them are left alive and why did they have to flee Kings landing?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 9:38pm On Apr 15, 2019
Game of thrones

Plenty misdirections happen


That Arya is smiling with gendry doesn't mean love


The show runners are playing with your minds


Nothing is ever plain on game of thrones


Thats all I will say, all facts points to a gendry and Sansa marriage
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 9:38pm On Apr 15, 2019
raumdeuter:




How many of thse courtesy did they offer to house Targaryan when they were eliminating them?
How many did they offer to House Baratheon?

All the people left in those 2 great families who once ruled all fled and are in hiding

So the courtesy that no one gave her Targaryan family she should gove to one Tarly family
Did anyone even offer her the chance to bend the knee and be saved when they were wiping out her family?

But she claimed to be different from the others. How is she different then?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 9:40pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


But she claimed to be different from the others. How is she different then?

She is different because she is giving people options surrender and serve me or DIE

Did they give her and her brother that option?

She gave Dickon an option what option did they give Viserys and Denaerys?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 9:40pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


But she claimed to be different from the others. How is she different then?
If she wasn't different


She will have flown her dragons and sacked Kings landing since


Jaime himself said it, that if she wanted she will have taken the throne since


Dany doesn't want to kill people

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 9:41pm On Apr 15, 2019
iamJ:
If she wasn't different
She will have flown her dragons and sacked Kings landing since
Jaime himself said it, that if she wanted she will have taken the throne since
Dany doesn't want to kill people

If Cersei, Tywin or Joffrey had Dragons do you think anyone will still be alive?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 9:43pm On Apr 15, 2019
raumdeuter:


When Jamie killed her father the mad king what did they do to her family? Why did she and her brother have to flee? Did anyone give them the option to bend the knee and live?

What of House Baratheon, how many of them are left alive and why did they have to flee Kings landing?

Dayo na.

This is different. The Targaryen were hunting because they are the rightful heir to the Iron throne and as long as they are alive, the Baratheon hold on the Iron throne will be challenged.

Cersei was the one killing all the bastard sons of Robert and it was because he wants his son to become King after Robert. While Joffrey and Tommen was still alive they still bear the name Baratheon.

The Tarly’s have no claim to the Iron Throne, they are not her direct competition in anyway. How is it the same thing Oga Dayo?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 9:43pm On Apr 15, 2019
raumdeuter:


If Cersei, Tywin or Joffrey had Dragons do you think anyone will still be alive?
they will be discussing raiding Esso and pentos now self


That's why she wanted an elephant

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Jwonder(m): 9:44pm On Apr 15, 2019
iamJ:
Dany deserves the accolades, do you know what she has been thru

Every problem Sansa had she created for herself

Dany left home with nothing and came back with an army


Sansa left with a prince and came back with nothing

Who is Sansa where Dany is


Dany is her queen, if Sansa doesn't show respect, we will use her to quench drogon hunger

undecided Respect is earned and not given, even Jon told her people in the North hardly trust outsiders
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 9:45pm On Apr 15, 2019
raumdeuter:


She is different because she is giving people options surrender and serve me or DIE

Did they give her and her brother that option?

She gave Dickon an option what option did they give Viserys and Denaerys?

Viserys and Daenerys are Targaryen, they have solid claim to the Iron Throne

Dickon Tarly of House Tarly have no claim to the Iron Throne.

House Tarly is not her competition.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Sirfeeking(m): 9:45pm On Apr 15, 2019
iamJ:
Game of thrones

Plenty misdirections happen


That Arya is smiling with gendry doesn't mean love


The show runners are playing with your minds


Nothing is ever plain on game of thrones


Thats all I will say, all facts points to a gendry and Sansa marriage
Arya is only interested in killing her enemies.She doesn't give a fvck about love or emotion.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 9:45pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


Dayo na.

This is different. The Targaryen were hunting because they are the rightful heir to the Iron throne and as long as they are alive, the Baratheon hold on the Iron throne will be challenged.

Cersei was the one killing all the bastard sons of Robert and it was because he wants his son to become King after Robert. While Joffrey and Tommen was still alive they still bear the name Baratheon.

The Tarly’s have no claim to the Iron Throne, they are not her direct competition in anyway. How is it the same thing Oga Dayo?
see how you are twisting the truth


Dany is fair case closed
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 9:46pm On Apr 15, 2019
Sirfeeking:
Arya is only interested in killing her enemies.She doesn't give a fvck about love or emotion.
I tire for all these zee world fanatics


They see love everywhere
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 9:47pm On Apr 15, 2019
iamJ:
If she wasn't different


She will have flown her dragons and sacked Kings landing since


Jaime himself said it, that if she wanted she will have taken the throne since


Dany doesn't want to kill people

She wanted to rain fire on King Landings. Tyrion was the one that preached caution and thankfully she listened.

Dany has always been burn burn burn. She’s no different from her Father.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by elrony(m): 9:47pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


It’s not even about about Sam.

She shouldn’t have killed Dickon. He was already her prisoner. If Sam wasn’t alive, she just wiped out a known and powerful house.

She wan kill papa, come kill pikin join. Makes no sense.

Lol, Prisoners ke, she's not held any.

Fact is; Daney didn't just kill them,she gave them a valid choice, they simply chose to die!!!
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 9:47pm On Apr 15, 2019
iamJ:
see how you are twisting the truth


Dany is fair case closed



Which truth I’m I twisting?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 9:48pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


Dayo na.

This is different. The Targaryen were hunting because they are the rightful heir to the Iron throne and as long as they are alive, the Baratheon hold on the Iron throne will be challenged.

Cersei was the one killing all the bastard sons of Robert and it was because he wants his son to become King after Robert. While Joffrey and Tommen was still alive they still bear the name Baratheon.

The Tarly’s have no claim to the Iron Throne, they are not her direct competition in anyway. How is it the same thing Oga Dayo?

Immediately the mad king was killed by the oathbreaker Jamie who swore to defend the king, The Baratheons and Lannisters ensured that all living Targaryans were killed. Danerys and Viserys had to escape as little children to live. Did anyone give these children the option to bend the knee and live?

Stannis Renly and other Baratheons couldnt even stay close, Gendry who was even a bastard is barely surviving because every known Baratheons must die

Boltons wanted to ensure that every male Starks were dead and left to cersei every living Stark male or female should be dead some didnt even offend her

But a tarly who waged war on Dinerys, who just killed some of her soldiers was given a chance to choose life or death and he chose

How many people in the whole series were given such options?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by meforkene(m): 9:48pm On Apr 15, 2019
kay9:


Jon realized she had all that as soon as he arrived Dragonstone, yet he refused to bend the knee. He finished mining dragonglass AND sailed north, and still did not bend the knee. Then along comes Dany sallying forth on not one, not two, but three freaking dragons to save his bacon... and our King in the North finally has a eureka moment.

We can sugarcoat it all we want but the glaring fact is Jon made that decision based on emotion - he fell in love with the woman who would sacrifice her children to save people. And so he bent the knee.

Are we actually watching the same show?

Jon Snow bent the knee when he was really convinced Dany was going to totally involve in the fight for living.

Do you remember Jon's convo with Tormund beyond the wall when he cited Mance as a non-kneeler and how it affected his people because of his arrogance and stubbornness?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Jwonder(m): 9:49pm On Apr 15, 2019
iamJ:
Game of thrones

Plenty misdirections happen


That Arya is smiling with gendry doesn't mean love


The show runners are playing with your minds


Nothing is ever plain on game of thrones


Thats all I will say, all facts points to a gendry and Sansa marriage
grin grin grin you obviously don't know about GOT, go on Twitter, prior to the release of episode one everyone has been waiting for the reunion of Arya and Gendry.. btw where the Bleep did you come up with that? Gendry and Sansa hahaha grin grin

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by melodyogonna(m): 9:50pm On Apr 15, 2019
kay9:


Actually, that is NOT the way of war.

In the heat of battle, ANYONE may be killed or maimed. But afterwards, especially if they put down their arms, the NOBLES are imprisoned in dungeons, the HEADS of the Houses (Lords) may or may not be killed depending on how stubborn they are (Lord Tarly qualifies as stubborn, so he will be most likely be executed). But the SONS/DAUGHTERS of the Lords are excellent bargaining pieces; no matter how hot-headed they are, if they are the ONLY son/daughter, then you simply cannot afford to kill them, else you will extinguish that House forever - and no, Samwell doesn't count as a second son, he is a Sworn Brother.

My point is, Daenerys made a grave error. If you hope to win people's loyalty, then you simply cannot exterminate their lineage like that. Tyrion said as much. You only do that if you want to rule by making them fear you, like Tywin did.
I also heard Tyrion begging the stupid child to bend the kneel, that there house was on the brink of extinction
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 9:50pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


Viserys and Daenerys are Targaryen, they have solid claim to the Iron Throne

Dickon Tarly of House Tarly have no claim to the Iron Throne.

House Tarly is not her competition.

So its fair to kill children Targaryans because they might have a claim to the throne when they grow up

But its unfair to kill a grown man Dickon who was trying to kill you 30mins earlier

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 9:50pm On Apr 15, 2019
elrony:


Lol, Prisoners ke, she's not held any.

Fact is; Daney didn't just kill them,she gave them a valid choice, they simply chose to die!!!

I’m not saying she didn’t give them a choice.

When she gave the choice, they were her “PRISONER” already. She had them as captives already, why was she in a hurry to kill them?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by elrony(m): 9:50pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


She wanted to rain fire on King Landings. Tyrion was the one that preached caution and thankfully she listened.

Dany has always been burn burn burn. She’s no different from her Father.

She's young and no Aerys abeg, she's shown restraint with the kinda power she possesses. She needed to make a statement to be taken serious with.

If you check, she's not always the first to attack.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Chysler(m): 9:51pm On Apr 15, 2019
Pls Note that Sam Tarly's Anger towards Dany for executing His father and Brother will significantly contribute to the bitter sweet ending...
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 9:52pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


She wanted to rain fire on King Landings. Tyrion was the one that preached caution and thankfully she listened.

Dany has always been burn burn burn. She’s no different from her Father.
her father kept long nails

her father didnt trust any1

her father was a bad leader


his own son wanted to take the kingdom away from him

her father was a sick twisted man


dany is not her father in any shape or manner
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Jwonder(m): 9:52pm On Apr 15, 2019
Sirfeeking:
Arya is only interested in killing her enemies.She doesn't give a fvck about love or emotion.

That's a lie, she has emotions and we clearly see it in season 8, that's the plot twist the director wanted us to see because all we've been seeing is an Arya hell bent om revenge
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 9:53pm On Apr 15, 2019
Jwonder:

grin grin grin you obviously don't know about GOT, go on Twitter, prior to the release of episode one everyone has been waiting for the reunion of Arya and Gendry.. btw where the Bleep did you come up with that? Gendry and Sansa hahaha grin grin
like i said


when it comes to game of thrones, i dont carry talk, i knew R+L=J right from season 2
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by elrony(m): 9:53pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


I’m not saying she didn’t give them a choice.

When she gave the choice, they were her “PRISONER” already. She had them as captives already, why was she in a hurry to kill them?

No time, the people had as captives wouldn't even have her as a captive, talk more of giving her a choice if it was the other way around.

It all boils down to what it is; War. When you're vanquished, you surrender totally or seal your fate.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by harlaryoh(f): 9:54pm On Apr 15, 2019
Arya and sacrifices? Hell no! I don't think she swings that way grin grin
Jwonder:


Hahaha I have waited so long to see Arya and Gendry, they would make amazing couples �..
Spoiler: Arya would sacrifice her life to kill the Night King embarassed
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 9:54pm On Apr 15, 2019
raumdeuter:


Immediately the mad king was killed by the oathbreaker Jamie who swore to defend the king, The Baratheons and Lannisters ensured that all living Targaryans were killed. Danerys and Viserys had to escape as little children to live. Did anyone give these children the option to bend the knee and live?

Stannis Renly and other Baratheons couldnt even stay close, Gendry who was even a bastard is barely surviving because every known Baratheons must die

Boltons wanted to ensure that every male Starks were dead and left to cersei every living Stark male or female should be dead some didnt even offend her

But a tarly who waged war on Dinerys, who just killed some of her soldiers was given a chance to choose life or death and he chose

How many people in the whole series were given such options?


You seriously want to compare the Starks, Baratheon and Targaryen with House Tarly, really?

As long as the male child of the Starks are still alive, the Bolton’s hold on the North will always be challenged.

As long as Targaryen are still alive, the Baratheon or Lannister claim to the throne will always be challenged

Cersei was the one killing Robert bastard sons. While Robert was King, Renly was in Kings Landing and Stannis was one of the commanders of the Kings army. When Robert was alive, no one was hunting down the Baratheon except Cersei.

So I ask again, what threat do House Tarly poses to Dany.

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