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seunmsg:
Your calculation is very wrong. The minimum wage of N30k will be for GL1 step1 and going by extant public service rules, there is nobody on GL1 step1 again. The most junior worker on a government payroll is on GL4 Step1.

Again, workers are promoted every 2,3, and 4 years depending on cadre. No civil servant can be on a grade level for 35 years. Let's even assume an unusual case of a worker remaining on GL1 for 35, such person cannot remain on the same step for 35 years. Government salaries are paid on an annual incremental basis. That is, your step and salary increases every first of January irrespective of your grade level. Therefore, the scenario painted by the op is false, inaccurate and misleading.

your narrative is also not very correct how can you claim the most junior worker is on grade level 4step 1? I was employed on g/level 3 and stayed there for 17 years in a fed ministry until I escaped for my life.

@Explorers

Your analysis didn't factor the fact that no civil servant remains in a single position for 35 years.

Beside, the problem is that this country is highly unproductive, the revenue we get in government coffers is relatively scarce to take care of this new wage bill. In fact, my fear is that many states may not be able to keep up with this new proposed/agreed minimum wage of 22/30k.

Let us not forget that States started owing workers and pensioners their legitimate earning since the revenue from petrodollars dropped and our governments couldn't keep up with the 18k minimum wage that was approved in 2011. How much more 22/30k?

It is also unfortunate that at the moment most States aren't even executing projects, all they do is wait for allocation to offset workers' salaries and pensioners entitlements.

I will always maintain that increment of minimum wage will not solve the problem of workers welfare, the only way out is to have a productive civil service and a favorable environment for the private sector to thrive.


God bless Nigeria

godliman:
your narrative is also not very correct how can you claim the most junior worker is on grade level 4step 1? I was employed on g/level 3 and stayed there for 17 years in a fed ministry until I escaped for my life.

Where you escape go?

TonyeBarcanista:
@Explorers


God bless Nigeria

Amen, that's all i can say now sir.

godliman:
your narrative is also not very correct how can you claim the most junior worker is on grade level 4step 1? I was employed on g/level 3 and stayed there for 17 years in a fed ministry until I escaped for my life.

After the implementation of ippis across board, a circular emanated restricting only officers on GL 4 and above to be on FG payroll. It is now an offence to employ anybody on GL1 to 3 and put them on the IPPIS payroll without express permission from HOS. So sad to read that you stayed on GL3 for 17 years. Nobody should stay on a grade level for that number of years.

some drivers in Lagos civil service earn 18k fact

godliman:
your narrative is also not very correct how can you claim the most junior worker is on grade level 4step 1? I was employed on g/level 3 and stayed there for 17 years in a fed ministry until I escaped for my life.

lol @

escaped for my life

Corrinthians:
Explorers, I'm a fan of yours and your threads are always entertaining and very enlightening but you goofed on this one.

You forgot no one works for 35 years and remain stagnant in the level that was given them at entry level. As years go by, promotions come, although one might stagnate at some point, but you sure get some promotion.

You failed to factor that in in your analysis.

Regardless, the implication of your analysis isn't lost on me. The proposed wage is just a drop in the ocean of what our thieving "leaders" recieve, and that is really unfortunate.

do you know dat osun state workers re amount d poorest in the country too No step , no annual increments, no promotion in d past 7 and half years, only few days to election d governor now do useless promotion without money 4 dem , happy dat am not working in dat state sef

TonyeBarcanista:
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Where you escape go?

why do u want to knw dat ??

Labour Leader Are Part Of Those Destroying Nigeria Economic,why Must Their Brain Leak,at This Point We Have To Re-in-state Our Monetary Value Instead Of Increasement, For Instance,what $1 Bill Will Buy,#200 Dear Not Contend With It,it's A Shame Our Leaders Are Unwilling To Do The Right Thing,it's Really Painful,very Soon Inflation Will Rise As High As Mount Everest, Somalia Is An Example Where Money Is Been Sold On The Street With Wheel Barrow Because It's Purchasing Power Is Really Low. I'm Using This Platform To Plead With Our Leader That They Should Make Our Economy Rise Again,just Imagine How #5 Has Been Swept Away From The Market,shame On Our Labour Leaders. Our Currency Will Continue To Loose It Value If It's Purchasing Power Is Worthless,peace

minimum wage is the least wage a worker should earn.
This means that a worker in level 1 step 1 earns or will earn minimum wage.
No one in civil service is employed at level 1 step 1 @explorers except those staff employed by the institution not directly by the govt.
so both hypothetically and in reality, the opening post is misleading.

Though whatever the scenario, i get where u r aiming at. Even 50k as minimum wage is not enough in nigeria.

bantudra:
we are tired of promises....we want a continual increase and not promises since 1999....

we dont want promises every elections....we want gradual increases no matter who is president....

People like you often repeat a class for 3 years and will be advice to leave the school. Try something new

allthingsgood:
Promised ke
Aren't u tired of lies Why didn't the so called saviour implement the 100k wen he was in power

Comprehension problems I guess

Optional09:
People like you often repeat a class for 3 years and will be advice to leave the school. Try something new

i was not that bad in school...i had alot of high possitions in school....from class president to gatekeeper...
and i never repeated a class....

TonyeBarcanista:
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Where you escape go?

where you think? Desert or greener pasture?

TonyeBarcanista:
@Explorers

Your analysis didn't factor the fact that no civil servant remains in a single position for 35 years.

Beside, the problem is that this country is highly unproductive, the revenue we get in government coffers is relatively scarce to take care of this new wage bill. In fact, my fear is that many states may not be able to keep up with this new proposed/agreed minimum wage of 22/30k.

Let us not forget that States started owing workers and pensioners their legitimate earning since the revenue from petrodollars dropped and our governments couldn't keep up with the 18k minimum wage that was approved in 2011. How much more 22/30k?

It is also unfortunate that at the moment most States aren't even executing projects, all they do is wait for allocation to offset workers' salaries and pensioners entitlements.

I will always maintain that increment of minimum wage will not solve the problem of workers welfare, the only way out is to have a productive civil service and a favorable environment for the private sector to thrive.


God bless Nigeria

At the onset of this administration, many of us were against an increase in the minimum wage. We understood that it's increase will only lead to inflation. Seeing that Nigeria was heading towards a recession, our hope was that PMB would cut down the cost of governance, restructure the MDA'S , and invest in housing, education and health care. The salaries and extra chopping of the top 10,000 civil servants will provide a stable income for over a million Nigerians. Imaging the government using those funds to build new classrooms, chairs and tables across the nation. So many low skilled workers will get jobs. But unfortunately, this government decided to simply do nothing. After the naira fell and the price of fuel went up to 145, transporters were not able to raise their fares. Barbers, hairstylist, tailors, even mechanics were not able to raise their fares. These people all had to face the full effects of the recession. As the price of oil started to rise, government offered no safety net to the common people. Is government only concerned with paying civil servants their salaries? What about the 90 percent of Nigerians that do not work for the government?

I feel the minimum wage should be increased now even if it means the further devaluation of the naira down the line. Nigerians are suffering like never before. With my small salary, I know how many people I am supporting. I even had to move a man I have known all my life into my parents house to prevent him from being homeless. Hardship is real.
The Federal government most make hard decisions. Either restructure the MDA'S to reduce the recurrent expenditure or continue to allow the masses in Nigeria to suffer. The last Joker the Unions have is the 2019 elections. I say aluta continua, victory a certa.

allthingsgood:
Federal
Abuja

Which office or Ministry is Federal?
Na waa you ooo..
Well..
Continue..
I'm still listening.

Many years ago most peeps salary was N1 now min wage is 30k.

Watch out it will get to 100k soon.

Lesson here is that salary is never enough.

godliman:
your narrative is also not very correct how can you claim the most junior worker is on grade level 4step 1? I was employed on g/level 3 and stayed there for 17 years in a fed ministry until I escaped for my life.

lol @excaped for my life

This is my Comment

seunmsg:
Your calculation is very wrong. The minimum wage of N30k will be for GL1 step1 and going by extant public service rules, there is nobody on GL1 step1 again. The most junior worker on a government payroll is on GL4 Step1.

Again, workers are promoted every 2,3, and 4 years depending on cadre. No civil servant can be on a grade level for 35 years. Let's even assume an unusual case of a worker remaining on GL1 for 35, such person cannot remain on the same step for 35 years. Government salaries are paid on an annual incremental basis. That is, your step and salary increases every first of January irrespective of your grade level. Therefore, the scenario painted by the op is false, inaccurate and misleading.

I am on GL03 step2. There has been no promotion in Ogun State since 2013 or so (for nurses). The op truly doesn't understand the public service very well but you do clearly don't know such scenario is possible in Nigeria

Let's say one is earning 70k, what's the implication of the 30k increment?

CaptPlanet:
Let's say one is earning 70k, what's the implication of the 30k increment?

Rough estimate:

18k (previous) to 30k (new)
70k (previous) to xxk (new)

then xxk is 70k * 30k / 18k
about 116k

seunmsg:
Your calculation is very wrong. The minimum wage of N30k will be for GL1 step1 and going by extant public service rules, there is nobody on GL1 step1 again. The most junior worker on a government payroll is on GL4 Step1.

Again, workers are promoted every 2,3, and 4 years depending on cadre. No civil servant can be on a grade level for 35 years. Let's even assume an unusual case of a worker remaining on GL1 for 35, such person cannot remain on the same step for 35 years. Government salaries are paid on an annual incremental basis. That is, your step and salary increases every first of January irrespective of your grade level. Therefore, the scenario painted by the op is false, inaccurate and misleading.

Can you explain then the expected increment based on new minimum wage. Does the 30000 naira affect only the basic?

ositadima1:
Rough estimate:
18k (previous) to 30k (new) 70k (previous) to xxk (new)
then xxk is 70k * 30k / 18k about 116k

How sure are you about this?

patwilly:
How sure are you about this?

I am not sure, but this is just a rough estimate. I assumed everyone's​ salary will be adjusted proportionately given the 66% increase in minimum wage.

but since level 7 workers salary is increase by 23.2% are u now telling me that the 45000 naira they are receiving as their total salary will now be 55440 naira?