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Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by capitalzero: 8:41am On Apr 23, 2019 |
Actually, hospital can get court injunction to transfuse minor. It can only work if parents are not paying for services. In developed countries, government sees children as their responsibility. In nigeria, patients pay usually before services take care of their children. Also, how many hospitals can get court papers to administer blood? What if the child dies eventually after the transfusion? Hospital may face litigation. In most cases, it may argue that blood transfusion worsen the condition. I have reservation for use of blood in medicine but do not agree with JW that receiving blood medically is an outright regard for God's law. |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by schoolboymatt(m): 8:41am On Apr 23, 2019 |
KingLennon: Africa's biggest problem 1 Like |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by TeraHawks: 8:43am On Apr 23, 2019 |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by Nobody: 8:45am On Apr 23, 2019 |
Mynd44:Please explain as your statement is unambiguous |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by Freeeanijor: 8:45am On Apr 23, 2019 |
This ruling is not only applicable to JW, other religious sects are affected. |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by whosayswot100(m): 8:46am On Apr 23, 2019 |
Excellent judgement to put our thinking straight |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by drlateef: 8:47am On Apr 23, 2019 |
This ruling, as commendable as it can be, may be misapplied in other circumstances where parents administer certain procedures on minors who lack consent. An example is circumcision, baptism, tribal marks etc. The supreme court will need to be more explicit that this can only apply in life threatening conditions. Otherwise people will be denied religious obligations on their children who cannot give consent. 1 Like |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by frankmoney(m): 8:48am On Apr 23, 2019 |
aribisala0:I'm not in support of the parents just so you know |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by infortech(m): 8:48am On Apr 23, 2019 |
because of this, a lot of adults have die. that is why I will never advice a pregnant woman to go to JW hospital or clinic |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by Nobody: 8:51am On Apr 23, 2019 |
anonymuz:Which useless bible principle does eating blood translate to blood transfusion? |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by loopman: 8:53am On Apr 23, 2019 |
The question is why did they take the child to the hospital if they don’t believe in the capacity of the hospital to save the child. One day that child will grow enough to know the parents were willing to kill him or her just because of their religious beliefs and thereafter demanded 10M from those that saved him or her for doing so. Mad parents 3 Likes |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by loopman: 8:56am On Apr 23, 2019 |
drlateef: The Supreme Court is already writing the judgement. It will be strictly for life threatening circumstances where the parents cannot solely determines such course of treatment for a minor that can’t give consent especially when it has to do with religion beliefs |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by passwelle: 9:04am On Apr 23, 2019 |
helpee:Chevron should be commended for taking this on and remaining dogged over the 2 decades plus. I am not a Lawyer. The little I know about the Law however is that, with such a clear cut judgement, a precedent has been set. Most lawyers know not to seek reinterpretation of Supreme court judgements, thus any such cases will get thrown out quickly from the Lower courts in future. |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by loopman: 9:05am On Apr 23, 2019 |
Bigajeff: This is not overseas country please. This is Nigeria and the Supreme Court of Nigeria just did the right thing You can carry your overseas thinking to your overseas. We use our peculiar level of development to solve our peculiar problem. 6 Likes |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by MaziOmenuko: 9:16am On Apr 23, 2019 |
helpee: You don't understand the premise of this rulling. A supreme court ruling is as good as a constitution, binding to everyone. So when next such a case happens, the hospital involved will just proceed on administrating the blood to the child, with this rulling as a backup. No lower court will entertain another complaint from any JW parents since the supreme court has decided on this already. 5 Likes |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by BarrElChapo(m): 9:16am On Apr 23, 2019 |
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Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by prinsam30: 9:19am On Apr 23, 2019 |
yaksdavirus: it is not a crime for u to settle down and read this important judgment neither will u die if you concentrate in reading, it's a straight forward judgment that can help u in the future in case u fall victim, that's the problem of youths of nowadays, they want everything fast fast, tomorrow now u go be the first person to castigate and rubbish the judicial system putting all the blames on buhari....... Nonsense upon ingredient 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by BarrElChapo(m): 9:19am On Apr 23, 2019 |
This are the kind of threads that should hit FP.. Not all those.......... Good one from the SC. |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by indoorlove(m): 9:23am On Apr 23, 2019 |
I'm quite happy with this rulling. We need more of this to return sanity to the society. Kudos! |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by helpee(m): 9:29am On Apr 23, 2019 |
MaziOmenuko:lies. Supreme Court judgement can be interpreted anyhow by court. This is just a judicial precedence meaning it can only help your case if you are in court for a similar case but it won't prevent you from being sued. And remember, Jehovah witness is a stubborn set. Even if the case is straight forward, they will still take you to court for transfusing their sect members and will still pursue the case to the supreme Court. Wether you win or not is Immaterial, the stress, the money and the time and the emotional trauma that you will pass through will be too much . Moreso, remember the baby didn't die yet they took them to court. Imagine after transfusion the baby still dies.... creating another scenario. They will now say even with the blood the baby died.... meaning the blood was not necessarily what would save the baby etc. There are too many scenarios in law and medical practice, a doctor should play safe and smart so they won't use you as a scapegoat |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by Nobody: 9:30am On Apr 23, 2019 |
LeopardX:Absolutely, the parents rather should be counter sued for imposing their Religious believes on their child, thereby putting the child's life in danger by refusing the child medical treatment. Endangering the life of a minor. 1 Like |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by SOFTENGR: 9:31am On Apr 23, 2019 |
When other countries are using superior health care facilities with better alternatives to blood transfusion, we are still backward here, insisting on transfusion. I don't even trust any test or blood screening in Naija. |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by OGHENAOGIE(m): 9:32am On Apr 23, 2019 |
Bigajeff:what are u implying Now... |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by MaziOmenuko: 9:33am On Apr 23, 2019 |
helpee: My dear, you are not making much sense. You don't appreciate the significance of a supreme court rulling. I didn't say the JW won't drag people to court anymore; I am saying that no court will entertain such cases. Of course you will be heard, but the case will be thrown off for lack of merit. That is if monetary awards are not giving against you for wasting the time of the courts and the defendants. |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by Geesaintagape: 9:42am On Apr 23, 2019 |
JW has failed to answer the question ' how does abstain from blood translates to avoid transfusion' How come abstain from blood in the bible means different thing from abstain from blood in other books. This news weak me oo, charging Dr 10m for saving ur child u took why not abandoned the child in the hospital |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by Olamilekan08(m): 9:46am On Apr 23, 2019 |
SOFTENGR: It is only in Nigeria refusing blood transfusion mean choosing death. And blood transfusion is automatically life saving with no risks. No body mentions the risks involved and the complications that might happen after the transfusion. For as far as 1980s alternatives to blood transfusion has been the main thing in modern medicine. I was at a standard hospital in Abuja sometimes ago and was shocked to see on the wall of the lab that there is no alternative to blood transfusion! Are we that backward in Healthcare and medicine? https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/should-anyone-be-given-a-blood-transfusion https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-jehovahs-witnesses-are-changing-medicine |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by urose93(f): 9:52am On Apr 23, 2019 |
olas24u:Are you serious! why are you so pained |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by urose93(f): 10:09am On Apr 23, 2019 |
Tabbaz: You are indirectly saying that you have the right/capacity to your life than it creator. No mortal man is knowledgeable enough to direct his/her steps without following the clear laid down principles from his maker. If a principle/instructions comes from a designer and a manufacturer of a particular product, not following such instructions doesn't really make us smart or proof we have common sense. |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by Just2endowed2(m): 10:09am On Apr 23, 2019 |
helpee: and your license might be withdrew and a good lawyer will sue you base on the law of precedent that is now a law provided that another third party was ready to pay the bill but you were following parent advise. |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by DarkJeddi(m): 10:16am On Apr 23, 2019 |
koyyes:Life is all about RISKS, CALCULATED risks, NOT silly, STUPID risks.. |
Re: You Can't Deny A Child Healthcare Because Of Your Religious Beliefs - Court by omozu1(m): 10:18am On Apr 23, 2019 |
KingLennon:No tribalism first Before Religion If we can overcome this two problems Nigeria will be great |
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