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| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by jafol(m): 5:54pm On Apr 23, 2019 |
shegra58:You r mad. You can carry ur luggage n live with them in biafra land and come back n tell me what they let u achieve in their land. Spit |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Alexis11: 6:20pm On Apr 23, 2019 |
Daewang:Lol... Igbo blood being the animal one I guess... You are right. ![]() |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Daewang: 6:57pm On Apr 23, 2019 |
Alexis11:Dirty abobaku animal. |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 7:48pm On Apr 23, 2019 |
nonxo007:You did well noticing that stumbling block (emboldened). A well-known example is Tinubu, who happen to be a Yoruba Muslim and got married to a Yoruba Christian. Same applies to Fashola. I believe the moment religion is about to tear them apart, being of same tribe with their spouses do help calm the situation most often. Moreover, Yoruba Culture is really deep and would always supersede the effect/position of religion amongst many Yorubas. The summary is "Don't Try It!". Friendship? Yes. Business? Sure! But marriage? Nope! Nice comment, by the way. |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by greatermeme: 7:53pm On Apr 23, 2019 |
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| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by RealityShot: 8:05pm On Apr 23, 2019 |
Elemosho478:no one said you should agree or be related to the other side. All you have to do is unite and fight against the Unprofitable Northern protectorate that has made us southern protectorate communities UNPROFITABLE like them since they grabbed power with the military. By the way, do you know that this rift between East and west is a well planned northern agenda? That's what the British colonists taught them. So REFUSE to be manipulated. #YorubaIgboUnite #SouthernProtectorateUnite |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by shegra58: 9:09pm On Apr 23, 2019 |
jafol:Your father dey mad omo ale |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by grandstar(m): 9:34pm On Apr 23, 2019 |
greatermeme:I'm apolitical but do you really think that things would be better? I doubt it If the North did not exist, do you honestly think the Yoruba's and the Igbo's can dwell peacefully with each other? What do you think will happen when Igbo's begin to dominate shops and markets in Yorubaland? They won't be happy if Igbos begin to dominate economically. There is bound to be serious grumblings! Look at what happened at independence. Azikiwe needed to form a coalition as his party scored the highest votes but did not win an outright majority They had a choice between either Awo's party, the Action Group or with Northern party, NCNC. He chose the Northern party and even made them head the government and he was a figure head simply to spite the Yoruba's, What of the South South where the oil is produced? I'm sure they'll be marginalized but not as badly as the recent past. With Igbo's their nearest neighbours, they are bound to be dominated by them and they despise the Igbo's. The presence of the North to some extent as made some issues much much easier to swallow When Abiola complained to his father that his 2 wives were always fighting each other, the father told him to complicate matters by marrying a third wife. Did that resolve the matter? Yes, the 2 wives stopped fighting each other and their sight was now on the 3rd wife ![]() |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by TemmyT002(m): 9:45pm On Apr 23, 2019 |
Your Highness, please stop that. Don't do that. Please. |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Alexis11: 5:49am On Apr 24, 2019 |
Daewang:Good description of your fore fathers. ![]() |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Alexis11: 5:57am On Apr 24, 2019 |
rawfact:Lol... You forgot to mention Akeredolu. Why? ![]() The reality is that well to do Igbos and Yorubas are getting married every Saturday while bigots like you only waste away on Nairaland. ![]() |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Daewang: 11:14am On Apr 24, 2019 |
Alexis11:Your fore father's were animals and slaves . |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Alexis11: 11:33am On Apr 24, 2019 |
Daewang:Lol... Better. So far you don't call them Igbos. ![]() ![]() |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Daewang: 11:37am On Apr 24, 2019 |
Alexis11:Your fore fathers were afonjas is there any curse worse than that? ![]() |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Alexis11: 12:44pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Daewang:Yeah. Being Igbo is worse. I'm sure you know that before now. ![]() |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Alexis11: 12:44pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Daewang:Yeah. Being Igbo is worse. I'm sure you know that before now. ![]() |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 12:49pm On Apr 24, 2019*. Modified: 7:47pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Alexis11:I think you hurriedly made your comment. And as usual of an average Nairalander, most comments are clouded with insults. That is why meaningful discussions others would have learnt from, are sometimes abandoned. Anyway, it isn't bigotry, at all. Time wasn't available to say more. No much time for that now either but I will say a little. My point to him bothers on the fact that he, being an Igbo Christian, and his girlfriend being a Yoruba Muslim; would end up forming a combination that would take a lot to stand the test of time. I intentionally cited politicians as examples because they virtually get away with anything. Even at that, it is the same culture both spouses belong to that successfully prevent what would have ordinarily ended up in a storm. Yet the Nairalander in question isn't a politician. Can someone swim against the tide? Certainly! But it is not done through mere wishes or pointing to those who once did it. Rather, one must possess enduring strength and the readiness of mind to make several sacrifices that would be required along the way. So if he and his lady are confident that they possess such, then he should go ahead. The only issue after making that decision is that marriage isn't the same as boyfriend/girlfriend stuff. Once entered, it is almost impossible to get out. Even divorce doesn't guarantee 100% exit, especially when a child is involved. Though a combination of [Igbo Christian and Yoruba Christian] or [Igbo Muslim and Yoruba Muslim] is somehow manageable. Interestingly, normal combination (same tribe with same religion) requires a lot to stand the test of time these days, let alone such complication. |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Daewang: 2:10pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Alexis11:What's worse than being an afonja, a slave and an animal ? |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by observanc1: 3:47pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Alexis11:not talking of on d way. In lagos itself. Only white men and benin descedants |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Alexis11: 2:17pm On Apr 25, 2019 |
observanc1:Lol... You are incoherent. |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Alexis11: 2:20pm On Apr 25, 2019 |
Daewang:Being an Igbo man. ![]() |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Daewang: 3:59pm On Apr 25, 2019 |
Alexis11:Dirty abobaku slave ![]() |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Rossikk(m): 1:58am On Apr 26, 2019 |
IGBOS AND YORUBA LANGUAGE SIMILARITIES This isn’t a fully comprehensive list, but these include a fair number of words and other similarities. The Igbo word comes first with the corresponding Yoruba word right after. Common Sound Correspondences: Here’s a list of many cognates and similar words: Animals: ụja (Igbo) =barking, roar, groan, dog aja (Yoruba) = dog ikwiikwii (Igbo) = owl owiwi (Yoruba) = owl agu (Igbo) = tiger/lion/leopard ẹkun (Yoruba) = tiger/lion/leopard adịdị (Igbo) =young female fowl, hen adie (Yoruba) =fowl, hen ehi/efi (Igbo) = cow efon (Yoruba) = buffalo ewu = goat ewúrẹ= goat azụ = fish eja = fish Possible Cognates and or just similar words (Animals): toro toro = turkey tolotolo = turkey Body Parts/Words Relating to the Body: ọnụ = mouth ẹnu = mouth ntị = ear eti = ear agba=chin agbọn=chin ụbụrụ = brain ọpọlọ = brain aka = arm ika = finger imi = nose imu = nose ụkwụ = foot, leg -kun in “orokun” = knee ezé = tooth eyin/ehin = tooth afọ = stomach/intestines ifun = intestines ike = buttocks, anus ikun = stomach ọkpụkpụ = bone/skeleton egungun = bone/skeleton ikiri ụkwụ = heel igigirisẹ = heel olu = neck ọrun = neck ikiaka = elbow ejika = elbow ogo = height iga = height obi = heart, king ọba = king iba=fever iba=fever ume = breath, energy imi = breath also umi in central yoruba (same meaning) okwu = speech, word, utterance ohun = voice, utterance uche= mind ọkan = mind úgwù = circumcision egun = circumcision (seldom used) ọría = disease arun/aarun = disease also related to yoruba aarẹ and arirẹ gbaa = shoot in igbo gba = kick in yoruba (used in certain expressions) ura = sleep orun = sleep gbọrọ = hear gbọ = hear nso nso = menstruate osuosu = menstruate Numbers: atọ = three ẹta/(m)ẹta = three anọ = four ẹrin/(m)ẹrin = four Many Igbo words, especially numbers, are prefixed by a “ke-” or sometimes “nke” when they become adjectives. A similar process is seen in Yoruba numbers. nke atọ, keanọ, keise, nke isii, keọkara = 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, half in Igbo kẹta/ikẹta, kẹrin/ikẹrin, karun/ikarun, kẹfa/ikẹfa = 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th in Yoruba Pronouns: ọ = he/she/it (subjective form) o or ó = he/she/it (subjective form) oun/un also = he/she/it m/mụ = I/me/my/mine mo/mi/emi = I/me/my/mine gini = what ki(ni) = what Possible cognates and/or just similar words: ị/i (subject form)= you iwọ/ẹ = you ụnụ = you (plural) ẹyin = you (plural) Land Features/Environment: ala = land ile = land in yoruba okute/okwute = stone/rock okuta = stone/rock afufe = wind ifufe = wind oyi = cold oyii = wind in Central Yoruba osisi = tree/plant ose = fruit ji = yam iṣu = yam Similar Words (likely due to borrowing): ọka = corn ọkà = grain/wheat yoruba uwa = earth in igbo yoruba cognates (iwa, wiwa, hardly used except for in names, like Oluwa); (oni/olu = owner, “oluwa=owner of the earth”), oduduwa (great one who created the earth) (odu=great or mighty one—> god sent down from heaven in ile ife) (pg 148)[2] Above: Oduduwa ebe = place ibi = place ugwu = moutain/hill oke = mountain mmiri/miri = water omi = water in Yoruba Religious/Community Terms: ute = mat itẹ=throne in yoruba ife = to worship, to wave, to adore ife = love, desire, affection in yoruba afa = divination, sorcery ọfọ = mourning, sorcery ifá = divination ulo=house in igbo ile/ule=house in yoruba ilu = city in yoruba ulo mmuo/ulo nso = shrine ileumole/ileorisha = shrine mmuo = spirit ụmọle = another word for any generic god in Central Yoruba ẹmi also means spirit, life, soul in yoruba olisa = God in some Igbo dialects also alushi/alusi = minor god in standard Igbo orisha = god in yoruba uru = gain, profit ere = gain in Yoruba efu = free (adverb) ofo = free, as in “ṣ’ofo” (yoruba) osi/isi/esi = cook in igbo ase = cook in yoruba Possible Cognates: ígwè = iron ogun = Yoruba god of iron (eke)le = greeting (iki)ni = greeting Family/Interpersonal Words: ụmụ = children ọmọ = child nwa=child ewe=child, youth in certain dialects oyi = companion, friend, lover aayo = favorite, preferable, beloved person, favorite person, favorite wife ọká=expert or distinguished indivual (oka mgba=wrestler) ọgá = boss ọgbọ = age-mate ẹgbẹ = age-mate “emeka bu ogbo m” (Igbo) = Emeka’s my agemate “egbe mi ni emeka” or “emeka je egbe mi” (Yoruba)= Emeka’s my age-mate Note: egbe is now commonly used for group, association, or guild, and in igbo, ọgbọ can mean generation oru/ohu = job, labor, duty, employment, slave ẹru = slave oke = man, male, masculine akọ= man, male, masculine onye = one who, who, person eniyan = person, human also ẹni/ọni/ ọniyan in Central Yoruba ọni can mean “one who” in yoruba, as in “oniwaasu” (preacher/one who preaches) nwuye = wife -aya/iyawo = wife nwanyị = woman, female person, wife -aya/iyawo = wife iko = adultery ọkọ=husband nta = marksmanship/hunting ụta means bow in igbo ọta = marksman, shooter ịyaa = mother, aunt, term of deference for an elder cousin who was one’s nanny iya = mother, term of deference for an elderly woman agha = war ogun = war ibe = portion, piece (maybe different) ibe nna=uncle, family relation ebo = clan, kindred, lineage, tribe ẹbi = family Similar Statements “ọ laa n'ụlọ” = “he/she/it went home” in Igbo “o lọ si ile” = “he/she/it went home” in Yoruba Others Cognates: nrọ = dream ala = dream sị = say, tell sọ = say owo = respect in yoruba ùgwù = respect in igbo (as in “nkwanye ugwu”) ihe = thing in igbo ohun = thing in yoruba gbuo=kill in igbo “gbuo m” = kil me “gbuo ya” = kill him/her/it pa =kill in yoruba “pa mi” = kill me “pa a “= kill him/her/it agba = color awọ = color mgbe = when nigba = during/when oge = time aago = time Prepositions: na =in/at in igbo at home = “n’ulo” ni = in/at in yoruba at home = “ni ile,” or sometimes “n’ile” tutuu = until titi = until apo=bag in yoruba akpa=bag in igbo culled |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by geosegun(m): 2:07pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Nwaotu10:You have a point here and I can relate. When I was younger, the normal experience was that some Igbos are ready to accept to pay high rental rate just because they were desperate to rent an apartment, but majority of those who pay this pay for 2 yr or 3yrs initial deposit, but refused to pay afterwards. They can be in the same house they beg to rent for 5yrs+ without paying at all. This discourages many landlord not to rent houses to some Igbos as they can not decipher those who will keep paying and those that will renege on the initial agreement. You see you cant put all the blame on the landlords alone. Even some Igbo Landlords prefer Yoruba tenants to their Igbo Kinsmen because of this attitude We all know the truth, everyone is guilty here. |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by OkunrinOloro: 3:36pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
I believe in the late 1980s when the Whites saw that they were losing the fight against apartheid, they tried some sort of divide and rule tactic on the blacks. That was when there was a lot of talk about things like Bantustans etc. XhosaNostra: |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by XhosaNostra(f): 5:22pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
OkunrinOloro:No, that never happened. |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Oshi5403(m): 5:58pm On May 10, 2019 |
This Claim By Ooni Is Nothing To Write Home About. Enitan Ogunwusi Has Always Being A Man Of Controversy. He Had Augued With Alaafin Oyo Countless Times On Who Is Superior Between Him And Alaafin. I Am Not Surprised In Anyways By His Recent Statement. But,all I Know Is That "Bi Omode Ko Ba Gbo Itan,oma Ba Aroba,aroba Si Ni Baba Nla Ku Baba Itan".So From What I've Read And Heared From Great Historians,both Local And Foreign,igbos And The Yorubas Has Nothing In Common Related To Family Ties. Yorubas Has Historical Ties With Edo Not Igbos.And I've Posted A Post On This Platform Clarifying The Historical Ties Between The Yoruba And Igbo,which Was Also Substantiated By Various Add-ons From My Fellow Uncertified Historians Here. In Conclusion,i Believe Ooni Mis-took Edo For Igbo.Edo And Igbo Nation Are Two Distinct Nations Please. Thank You. |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Adeba01(m): 3:44pm On May 01, 2021 |
XhosaNostra:Yes it did especially between the largely Xhosa backed ANC party and the largely Zulu backed Inkatha party. |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by MYZOLE: 9:37am On May 13, 2021 |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by Dutchkid: 9:26am On Sep 15, 2021 |
I have huge respect for the king. But saying that Igbos originate from Yoruba is neglecting fact which put the Igbos as the oldest tribe in Nigeria. This is backed by archeological findings. The fact still remains Yoruba originated from the Igbos just like the Idomas, Igala, Efik, and so on. If you doubt it please do a little google search on the oldest tribe and read on from there. |
| Re: Igbos And Yorubas Have Historical Ties – Ooni Of Ife by hdaveyork(m): 8:41pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
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