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Deadlytruth:
By centralizing the Public Service. I hope you are aware that the Public Service is the lawful Institution through which a government generates revenue from resources found within her territory and applies those revenues for projects, salary payments and all other activities which amount to resource control.
So by centralizing the Public Service, Ironsi destroyed resource control and federalism which breeds competition.

""Ironsi destroyed resource control"

Good, Ironsi destroyed it, not IGBOS.

Andhominem:
Igbos won't dare contest in the future...

Same thing u kept saying till 2015 wen they started contesting and started winning

TAO11:
You noted that I am a migrant from Ogbomosho:

Well, If I had been from Ogbomosho (or from any other part of Yoruba land), I will actually be as proud as I am now as a Lagos indigene. There is nothing else as being a Yoruba person. The only part of Nigeria I would have regretted if I had been from is Igbo land, omg! I will cry daily, but thank God for his love. I know you regret deeply and thoroughly pained that your mother fell pregnant for a gala seller from the muddy region, while I am a Lagosian, that's why you can't cope with my reality of being a Lagosian. Well, there is another world for you to chose parents wisely.

I understand the frustration of every Igbo person when they encounter a Lagos indigene, the typical Igbo person quickly switches to denial mode on behalf of the Lagosian, just as you did above. You'll hear words like 'No, you're not from Lagos, you're from somewhere else'. 'More like, you're automatically superior to me if you're a Lagos indigene, so you're not'. Hello young man, I am superior to you, I am a Lagos indigene. Live with it, die with it!

You wrote: "The word Eko has no meaning in the Yoruba language, rather it is a Bini word that means war camp."

Of course, "Eko" is a Bini word just as "Nigeria" is an English coinage having no meaning in any of the indeginous languages of this region of the world.

Going by your warped reasoning, we should then conclude (because of the name "Nigeria" ) that this land which we all call ours today was originally owned as the indigenous property of the English speaking people, while we only arrived centuries later after them to populate the land. Such a leaky logic!

You also wrote: "Bini kingdom ruled over the Yorubas and forced Oba-ship on them"

Yes, the Bini kingdom was the terrorist of their day at least for their offensive on the peaceful minority Yoruba settlement of Lagos (who are the autochthonous as you've inherently admitted ) which they attacked. The Binis kingship were however later sacked by King Ologun Kutere (who became the fifth king of Lagos), a Yoruba man who discontinued the Bini patriarchal throne ascension in Lagos till date.

In relation to the foregoing, I challenge you to mention the name of the autochthonous Yoruba subgroup whom you noted that the Binis ruled over in Lagos.

Moreover, you seem to be implying that the Binis introduced the word "Oba" to the Yorubas. Well, if that's what you meant then be prepared for the shocker because that's a blatant lie from a Yamiri like you.

The royalty of Ile-Ife introduced the title "Oba" to the Binis when Oranmiyan went on his expedition to "Igodomigodo" land (which he later renamed as "Ubinu" land) prior to which they never called their rulers "Oba", but instead "Ogiso". He ruled over them and caused them to change their title from "Ogiso" to "Oba" till date and also sanctioned that only his lineage should be king in Benin till date.

The present Oba of Benin, Oba Ewuare II, confirms this fact that Oranmiyan from Ife was the first "Oba" of Benin. He confirmed it in Ile-Ife palace when he came for a homage visit sometimes last two years. Listen to him speak in the video below from 13:22 to 13:41 :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvXupQwaz0

And you lastly wrote: "Oba Akiolu said Lagos belongs to Bini people"

Consider what the Oba Akiolu himself has to say in relation and in clarification to his earlier statement before you masturbate further on the basis of online misrepresentations:

"Those who wish to distort the history of Lagos, the indisputable Yoruba seal are free to do so, but that facts are different from fiction".

He continued: "I have not issued any statement on the origin of Lagos"

"It's unfortunate that IDIOTS and VAGABONDS have taken over the cyberspace. As a king, I do not need to respond to any silly statement I read on the internet".

The Oba continued:

"Anybody who says Lagos is not Yoruba land must be AN IDIOT". (I think he was referring to you particularly here)

He further said that "It is not in his character to discuss issues of importance and royalty with UNSTABLE MINDS (I'm very sure this also relates to you).

He noted that the said unstable minds "are out to distort the legendary Yoruba history which Lagos is proud of”.

He said:

“Let those people say anything they like, they can even say that Lagos belongs to Iraq. But the truth is that the “history of Lagos and her Yoruba heritage dates back to 10th century which no one can eraze.”

All Lagos indigens are Bini people.

funmijoyb:
I'm Awori and others Lagos Awori king of Lagos asked you to be thrown into Lagoon. Benin people doesnt like ur tribe either.

All Ogbomosho people claiming Awori today

funmijoyb:
In future...you people predicted to win in 2019 but now is future.
Na una tribe used una hand destroy una sef.

We have made history by winning multiple seats in Lagos And we did it with our massive population.

Rigging n thuggery won't atop IGBOS in Lagos.

Jaideyone:
capital city indeed. outside festac and satellite town you clowns don't even own up to 15 % of the lands in ajegunle and okota. you don't own up to 10% of the land in other areas of Lagos. olodo

Of we own nothing in Lagos, why are yorubas shouting that they will stop selling land to IGBOS

Ofemannnu:
When you attack Ibadan,we all become Ibadan citizens,attack Ogun,we become Ogun citizens etc.Yorubas are one in Yorubaland.This is why we have Obas all over Lagos.It will give less pain to you and others if you accept that there is nothing you can do to make Lagos an Igboland.It will always belong to the Yorubas and all Yorubas will protect it,develop it and nurture it to become the greatest city in the world.....with the help of non-Yorubas too,of course.
Dallu,no vex.I looked all over the world,even Igboland,there has been nowhere Igbos have been so successful like in Lagos unlike Yorubas,so I feel for them.

U have oba"s all over Lagos because the Bini people installed Oba-ship in Lagos n SW

PrecisionFx:
Same thing u kept saying till 2015 wen they started contesting and started winning

That was before the flogging in 2019...

PrecisionFx:
Of we own nothing in Lagos, why are yorubas shouting that they will stop selling land to IGBOS

lol clown you are ones making wild claims of how you own 90% of the land in Lagos

Okoyeebows:
You're a hypocrite.

Look at what Igbos are saying here and tell me if it is not karma punishing Igbos.

Yorubas would keep trashing you till eternity.

Like i said may you not end up where u dont belong... hatred is eating ur cells...

Only God knows what will remain when its done with you.... Life goes on..

This is the last i will advise you. You can choose the easiest route either to live and die in hatred.. BYE!!

PrecisionFx:
U have oba"s all over Lagos because the Bini people installed Oba-ship in Lagos n SW

Shut your stinking rotten lying yamirin mouth!

Yorubas have been installing Obas centuries before Ife will send the first Oba to go rule over Igodomigodo.

Mind you, the indigenous "Ogiso" dynasty of Igodomigodo land was scrapped by Oranmiyan and replaced till date with the foreign Ife-Yoruba "Oba" dynasty.

All Obas of Bini till date trace their paternal lineage (without any paternal Bini interruption) to Eweka I and hence to Oranmiyan.

The same can not be said of Eko, since King Ologun Kutere (a Yoruba blood) sacked the Bini paternal terrorist throne ascension in Eko as early as their fourth king of Eko, i.e. King Eletu Kekere, who was the last Eko king from the Bini line which starts with King Ado, son of Ashipa, then King Gabaro, then King Akishemoyin, then the last King Eletu Kekere).

All kings of Eko (not Lagos State) till the present one (king Akiolu) are descended paternally from the Yoruba blood, king Ologun Kutere.

And if you care to be intimidated, I myself am descended (via one of my many Yoruba branches) from king Kosoko Morounfolu through his daughter.

Plunge into a black hole if you hate the fact.

PrecisionFx:
All Ogbomosho people claiming Awori today

Why do Igbos feel unsafe, intimidated, inferior, and full of denial when they encounter any Lagos indigene?

Just asking

Godson26:
No mind them Igbos dem wan reap wheredem no sow. Lol

If they pay tax and contributes to Lagos state economy it means you are uninformed
.

TAO11:
Why do Igbos feel unsafe, intimidated, inferior, and full of denial when they encounter any Lagos indigene?

Just asking

We encounter Lagos indigens to buy land from dem, We have the cash

TAO11:
Shut your stinking rotten lying yamirin mouth!

Yorubas have been installing Obas centuries before Ife will send the first Oba to Igodomigodo.

Mind you, the indigenous "Ogiso" dynasty of Igodomigodo land was scrapped by Oranmiyan and replaced till date with the foreign Yoruba "Oba" dynasty.

All Obas of Bini till date trace their paternal lineage (without any paternal Bini interruption) to Eweka I and hence to Oranmiyan.

The same can not be said of Lagos, since King Ologun Kutere (a Yoruba blood) sacked the Bini paternal terrorist throne ascension in Lagos as early as their fourth king of Lagos, i.e. King Eletu Kekere, who was the last Lagos king from the Bini line which starts with King Ado, son of Ashipa, then King Gabaro, then King Akishemoyin, then the last King Eletu Kekere).

All kings of Eko (not Lagos State) till the present one (king Akiolu) are descended paternally from the Yoruba blood, king Ologun Kutere.

And if you care to be intimidated, I myself am descended (on one of my many Yoruba branches) from king Kosoko Morounfolu through his daughter.

Plunge into a black hole if you hate the fact.

The great Bini empire ruled over yorubas.

Hug bee hive if it pains u

Jaideyone:
lol clown you are ones making wild claims of how you own 90% of the land in Lagos

So why are u crying that u will not sell again....

BabaOwen:
I hope they are not buying the LASG land sha, cause most of the land in that ibeju lekki is owned by the LASG.

No,they are not.I read somebody saying they do not give excision,yes we do and some others too.We give documents like deed of assignment,registered survey,excision etc.
LASG has taken their chunk and excised some parts for the landowners.

Okoyeebows:
For that Igbo moderator who banned Hotfreezer cos he said the truth, you have just proven to us why Igbos can never be trusted with power.

You are in a forum founded by a Yoruba man but misbehaving and banning Yoruba posters.

No wahala. Our reply to your madness is in real life, not Nairaland.

No be today..
Been busy all day, checked on the thread, only to discover one of my posts on FP had been deleted.
We are used to it.


-Lion

PrecisionFx:
We encounter Lagos indigens to buy land from dem, We have the cash

Okay. So, stop being inferior and in denial whenever you also encounter any Lagos indigene on nairaland.

Moreover, choice of locations for buying properties varies depending on the social status and levels of the buyer.

Igbos may consider Lagos as their dream land, while the Yorubas look at the U.K., the U.S., etc. for choice of location as regards property acquisition. So it's all about levels.

I mean what's the point of me being super excited about owning a piece of a Lagos that I already know is all mine?

Yorubas (and Lagos indigenes particularly) aims at beyond and aspires to conquer the bigger world, while leaving the lifetime aspiration of buying in Lagos to the less privileged -- i.e. the Igbos. So, it's all levels.

A Yoruba own some of the largest airports in the U.K., among other great feats by the Yorubas in the bigger worlds. Now, those are goals!

Yorubas sell bits and pieces to other tribes knowing fully well that the most document the Igbo man will get for buying in Lagos is CofO and never Excision.

And finally, Igbos don't even feature among the first 6 richest persons in Nigeria, while the Yorubas repeatedly feature there and beyond. So, what's the fuss about?

PrecisionFx:
The great Bini empire ruled over yorubas.

Hug bee hive if it pains u

Bini ruled in Lagos for a limited time before they were sacked centuries ago by king Ologun Kutere. I acknowledged it already, so what's your point?

In contrast, the Ife-Yoruba dynasty rules Benin (without any terrorist activity) from the days of Oranmiyan and Eweka 1 (i.e. centuries before the Binis ever dreamt of terrorizing the Lagos-Yorubas) TILL DATE.

What do you think? Now, that's goals!

TAO11:
Okay so, stop been inferior and in denial whenever you also encounter any Lagos indigene on nairaland.

Moreover, choice of locations for buying properties varies depending on the social status and levels of the buyer.

Igbos may consider Lagos as their dream land, while the Yorubas look at the U.K., the U.S., etc. for choice of location as regards property acquisition. So it's all about levels.

I mean what's the point of me being super excited about owning a Lagos that I already know is all mine?

Yorubas (and Lagos indigenes particularly) have been aiming at beyond and aspiring to conquer the bigger world, while leaving the lifetime aspiration of buying in Lagos to the less privileged -- i.e. the Igbos. So, it's all levels.

Yorubas do this knowing fully well that the most document the Igbo man (or any non-Yoruba for that matter) gets for buying in Lagos is CofO and never Excision.

And finally, Igbos don't even feature in the first 6 richest persons in Nigeria, while the Yorubas repeatedly feature there and beyond. So, what's the fuss about?

Wetin?
You're wasting too much precious time on the dude. You have poured enough urine on his face, he's worth no more.
Hence, reserve your cane for another round of flogging to their flàthead on another thread.


-Lion

AbaLion:
Wetin?
You're wasting too much precious time on the dude. You have poured enough urine on his face, he's worth no more.
Hence, reserve your cane for another round of flogging to their flàthead on another thread.


-Lion

Lol! No mind the muddy flat-headed wawa jewish pig jare

Odingo1:
All your rant is still on the event of the past which you can’t challenge because of your
cowardice.

Igbos are ready to change any situation, it is you Afonjas that is so afraid of your shadow.

Igbos are not dragging South South but calling for referendum for them to decide especially the Igbo speaking part.

Each generation suppose to tackle whatever is facing them, Britain leave EU and Scotland voted either to stay or leave UK, there is no part of EU law or British law that support succession. Stop using using event of century ago to hide your Afonja coward traits.

All your wailing is still on the fact that you can't deny the evils your fathers perpetrated due to their myopic greed and lust after other people's lands and resources.
You Biafoolanis aren't ready to change shit because you already recently once again demonstrated your cowardice and slave status to your Fulani masters going by the suddenness with which you abandoned your hitherto cherished Biafra dream to queue behind Atiku in pursuit of the same fraudulent one-Nigeria your forebearers fantasized about. Inconsistent clowns!
If you Biafoolanis aren't afraid of the Shadows of your Fulani slave masters, why did your supreme commander later order you to go and vote for a fulani Mafia and enemy of Biafra in defense of the same one-Nigeria you lots had denigrated and denounced for many years prior to the election? You are all cash and carry agitators.
Did anyone in the SS tell you he wanted Biafra to warrant including them in the secession referendum you prevented from finding it's way into our constitution?
Asari Dokubo already told you that you are slaves to Ijaws and all you have been able to do in response is to keep begging the Ijaws for unity thus confirming his claim that you Biafoolanis are unity begging slaves. When your slave masters up North gave you a quit notice, you as well begged them to reconsider their stand, yet you claim some nebulous boldness. What a shame! Much as I am not a Yoruba person, I have never heard Yorubas given quit notice from the North nor any Ijaw man describe them as their own slaves.
How would you know the part of British law that provides for secession when you are a product of programmed thinking?
Was there ever a time anyone promulgated a decree against secession in the UK or sponsored a bill to that end? That is the difference.

PrecisionFx:
All Ogbomosho people claiming Awori today

Una no just get shame on... All d Benin, Awori, Eguns etc They don't like you. Even d Ijaws.

PrecisionFx:
""Ironsi destroyed resource control"

Good, Ironsi destroyed it, not IGBOS.

He was inspired into it by Azikiwe whose preference for unitary system and one-Nigeria was in a representative capacity on behalf of Igbos who elected him to lead them.
Moreover, only in the Igbo's home Eastern Region was Ironsi's Unification Decree greeted with conspiratorial silence unlike the other three from which open criticisms emanated.

PrecisionFx:
""vestiges of the intense regionalism""

It reads here intense regionalism, don't u understand what it means? He simply brought together the civil service, army, police, navy, civil defence, etc to be under the FG. This never stopped resource control, it remained on until Gowon removed resource control.

Now he changed Nigeria from regions to provinces, now that's a mere lip service, Province n region are generally the Same thing.

So of all the bolded phrases, you could only see "intense regionalism"?
What of the others like "former regions", "Republic of Nigeria" as against "Federal Republic of Nigeria", "The regions are abolished", etc?

Odingo1:
Funny thing is that you Yorubas see Igbos as your enemies yet in real life Hausa-Fulanis are killing you in your own land in Ife and Lagos,they took your land and install Emirs. I remember after their killings in Mile 12 lagos, your governor was making mouth that they are going to move mile 12 market dominated by northerners and later chicken out after series of threatening from the northerners. Their Sarki Hausawa throne is in Lagos. When the time come the people that had been taken your land from Ilorin to Osogbo is the one that kill and grab lagos.

All this una fear about Igbos in Lagos will amount to anything, enjoy your one Nigeria.

You really think I've got time for rants and bullcrap. I raised some points in my post, If you're interested in having a civilized discourse, give evidence of Igbos tolerance to even their own let alone others, as regards political position. While at it, kindly tell the world the rationality for wanting to get from others, especially Yoruba what you're not ready to give in return. One last thing don't get emotional.

do you madd people not get tired of fighting each other?

Deadlytruth:
So of all the bolded phrases, you could only see "intense regionalism"?
What of the others like "former regions", "Republic of Nigeria" as against "Federal Republic of Nigeria", "The regions are abolished", etc?

""Republic of Nigeria" as against "Federal Republic of Nigeria"

They both mean same thing.



""The regions are abolished""

Doesn't mean an end to resource control. He ended regional n created provinces which are independent of each other n has different rulers

Deadlytruth:
He was inspired into it by Azikiwe whose preference for unitary system and one-Nigeria was in a representative capacity on behalf of Igbos who elected him to lead them.
Moreover, only in the Igbo's home Eastern Region was Ironsi's Unification Decree greeted with conspiractorial silence unlike the other three from which open criticisms emanated.

""Igbo's home Eastern Region was Ironsi's Unification Decree greeted with conspiractorial silence unlike the other three from which open criticisms emanated.""

Very stupid Afonja lie.




""He was inspired into it by Azikiwe""

Did only IGBOS vote Azikiwe? The answer is no, the north voted Zik as well. So by ur assertions, the north also caused the whole thing

PrecisionFx:
""Igbo's home Eastern Region was Ironsi's Unification Decree greeted with conspiractorial silence unlike the other three from which open criticisms emanated.""

Very stupid Afonja lie.




""He was inspired into it by Azikiwe""

Did only IGBOS vote Azikiwe? The answer is no, the north voted Zik as well. So by ur assertions, the north also caused the whole thing

Very stupid Biafoolani revisionism.
When Ironsi announced his Unification Decree, the Governor of Northern Region, Katsina, protested openly. Northerners staged riots and protests. The Governor of Midwest, David Ejoor, condemned the Decree. Condemnations also trailed it from the Western Region. But Ojukwu the Eastern Region Governor approved of it by gleefully announcing the next day over the radio that civil servants from the Eastern Region would henceforth be transferred to the Northern Region to take up headship positions. In fact the committee which Ironsi set up to advise him on the new constiution was 100% Igbo.

So Azikiwe was representing Northerners in the parliament where he was advocating unitary system? It is like saying that Ekwwremadu was voted into the current Senate by Northerners as well as Igbos to represent his Enugu constituency? Are you sure you understand how representative democracy works?