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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by peterd53(m): 3:12pm On May 07, 2019
Vary’s head is gonna be chopped off. Missadrie of Asshai predicted dat in season 7 wen deh met at dragon stone.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 3:20pm On May 07, 2019
Isomerizm:
You were being funny. Whoever laughed at what you posted needs his brain removed and flogged.

I'm not following you. Your nonsense is just catchy.
just say you are a idiot, always trying to be relevant, nobody cares
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 3:25pm On May 07, 2019
donrolex:
I observed something...its winter (cold and snow) in the north, while its summer in kings landing..is it not one country

I don't understand either. They make it seem like there's only Winter up North. It was snowing in King's Landing when Jaime left last season.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ORIJIN201(m): 3:42pm On May 07, 2019
IamD18:
Fact Bruv, faaaaact!!
I know an ungrateful soul when I see one. Adios! wink
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 3:48pm On May 07, 2019
IamD18:

You means armies like the Dothrakis wey dem wipe within 10 secs?

Or the Dragon that couldn't kill the Night King?
so the thousands of dead the dragon fire killed was what, infact Jon does not need to be in the battle because Dany will killed them all, he just need to be a spectator

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Dami12345: 3:50pm On May 07, 2019
Ksslib:

No I'm not.

Did I over shoot or undershoot?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by computerboy: 3:54pm On May 07, 2019
Isomerizm:
You just watched a woman order the beheading of the only person you've ever loved, and the first thing which comes to your mind is attacking a defenseless, old man, whose death might not even faze Cersie.

They couldn't have predicted the reaction if it was real life. A queen wouldn't risk her hand like that. How can she be so sure they wouldn't attack him... she could have sent soldiers with him and not alone. It's still a mistake and carelessness on the movie writers
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 3:56pm On May 07, 2019
DP84:

I am not one to force my viewpoint down people's throats but there are those who see movies or shows and pay crucial attention to details. They love to know 'the how', 'the when' and 'the why' events happen. Beyond clashing of swords or the senseless gunslings, give or present a logical plot and don't assume the audience are as stupid as those who only look forward to plot twists and fight scenes.
I'm having a hard time myself dealing with the writing lapses so far, but allow me to correct some of your objections.

1. Arya killed the NK - How? Till date, no clue.
On this, I'm with you 100%. There has been no satisfying explanation so far as to HOW she moved that fast. I've been reading theories and speculations from people trying to make sense of how the scene played out, but none is credible.

She ran/zoomed past the NK's generals and a shot of how fast she moved was shown to the viewers, the one general even turned to look in the direction of the wind effect so she was definitely coming from behind them. The obvious flaw here is that she is definitely 'running', meaning she is not sneaking.

Someone on motion moving very fast on snow coming from behind a group of normal human beings (not to mention these walkers) and not getting noticed fast enough by any of them, is highly impractical. She wasn't even trained like that by the faceless men. My summation is Arya somehow gained access into the speedforce, just like Barry Allen and did a FLASH moment on us.

2. Ser Bronn showed up at Winterfell in a crossbow and found the Lannister Brothers in a chamber - How did it make it past the wall?
This i don't agree with. First of all, which wall are you referring to?
The one surrounding Winterfell i guess. If that's the case, I'm pretty sure people are walking in and out of the gates and not getting stopped. Jamie came in through the same gates and he is a Lannister, anyone can spot him better than Ser Bronn whom no one in the North really knows, so of course he can walk past the walls surrounding winterfell without getting a second look.

3.Two huge, fierce aerial creatures and a rider fly right above ships but never spotted the enemy ships until Rheagal was shot out of sky multiple times. - How so?
As implausible as the death of Rhaegal might seem, I can understand how it happened. The Golden Company ships were using the cover of mountains to lay siege as seen in the episode. The dragons were not really flying that high over the sea, certainly not high enough to see what was on the other side of the mountains.

Again, Dany was not up there using the dragons to do reconnaissance so they were not really looking out for an ambush. The fleet on the other hand was there watching and observing, it's only logical that the side doing the looking sees the enemy first and has the advantage of striking first before drawing attention to itself.

4. Cersei paid Ser Bronn heavily to kill her two brothers but couldn't command her archers to kill Tyrion right at her doorstep. How?
I saw where Seun also brought this up, the explanation is simple.

The act of war says there must always be provision and allowance for terms of surrender before engaging in battle. During this period, there is always a cessation of hostilities until after the discussion has broken down and no side wants to stand down. Starting from the Bible which the modern day 'Act of War' based its principles on, God instructed the israelites on what to do before engaging in war, who to kill, what to kill, who to enslave etc. (Deuteronomy 20:10, reading the entire chapter is advisable)

Even in real life, every war that has been fought on earth since those laws were put in place always follows it accordingly. There are those who go against them though, which is what is referred to as 'War Crimes' - something the Targeryans are guilty of and why the Westerosi are skeptical allowing a dragon rider to rule them again since Dragons usually destroy everything and everyone in their path.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 4:07pm On May 07, 2019
Magnifico2000:
So y'all have forgotten Theon just like that. Nobody is talking about Theon anymore. Na wa o.
He died honourably and his story arc has ended cool

But what was he thinking charging at the Night King like that?
Suicide mission

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by meforkene(m): 4:09pm On May 07, 2019
Magnifico2000:

When did Dany wear two wigs in a single scene?

Disclaimer: I would not have checked if you didn't ask.

It's just a continuity error in a space of 5 seconds.

Only a woman can notice such a minute err. grin

Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 4:13pm On May 07, 2019
computerboy:


Real carelessness.... even on cersei side. Greyworm could have easily killed qyburn with a spear to even the score when cersei killed missandei but they allowed him go back into the gate...

Now i feel like I'm watching nollywood
Lol, killing the messenger? cheesy
Only tyrants and despots do that.

Missandei was already a prisoner of war and part of the terms of surrender.
"Surrender or she dies", they didn't surrender so she died. Now the Last War can begin and Greyworm can have his pound of flesh.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by somehow: 4:14pm On May 07, 2019
meforkene:


Disclaimer: I would not have checked if you didn't ask.

It's just a continuity error in a space of 5 seconds.

Only a woman can notice such a minute err. grin


Too many errors in this season8

They just can't wait to end it all.

Ran outta ideas

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Isomerizm(m): 4:14pm On May 07, 2019
computerboy:


They couldn't have predicted the reaction if it was real life. A queen wouldn't risk her hand like that. How can she be so sure they wouldn't attack him... she could have sent soldiers with him and not alone. It's still a mistake and carelessness on the movie writers
Yeah, I agree.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by somehow: 4:15pm On May 07, 2019
crackhaus:

Lol, killing the messenger? cheesy
Only tyrants and despots do that.

Missandei was already a prisoner of war and part of the terms of surrender.
"Surrender or she dies", they didn't surrender so she died. Now the Last War can begin and Greyworm can have his pound of flesh.

But Cersei was ready to kill Tyrion (the messenger na)
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 4:17pm On May 07, 2019
Eberex:
Guys I just watched the last scene between when John was being held by the dragon and the Night king walking towards Bran. If you notice, the dragon was not giving John any chance at all to go after the Night king (I'm sure this was an instruction from the night king).

When the night king started his walk towards Bran after killing Theon, John was behind a rock. But it got to a point when John had to get up, this was when the Night king was standing and starring at Bran.

Also, notice the soundtrack was solemn during these periods, at the same time they showed John looking up at something (i am sure he could see the night king from where he was lying) because he stood up abruptly and face the dragon. But look closely, when he got up he screamed "Gooooo"!! Goooo!!!who was he saying go go go to? I believe he was talking to Arya to make the run using himself as shield or distraction to the dragon. At this point the night king raised his hands to pick his sword.

I believe these moments happened simultaneously (the moment John stood up and screamed gooo! goooo!! and the moment the night king raised his hands for his sword). Also remember one of the generals saw Arya movement, but she was too fast.

Seems John had spotted Arya where she was hiding or maybe somewhere closeby, and she was waiting for John to be the one to fight the Night king. And John knowing he wont be able to save Bran did what he thought was best.

What do you think?
There's no way Jon could have spotted Arya, the Night King, or anyone in the Godswood from where he was.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Isomerizm(m): 4:18pm On May 07, 2019
somehow:


But Cersei was ready to kill Tyrion (the messenger na)
She wanted to kill her brothers, not Dany's messenger. They are different.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by somehow: 4:21pm On May 07, 2019
Isomerizm:
She wanted to kill her brothers, not Dany's messenger. They are different.

Tyrone was the messenger sent by Danny to speak on her behalf just like Cersei sending the old scientist to represent her. Arrows pointed at a armless Tyrone in that scene until she waved them off.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crixuss(m): 4:21pm On May 07, 2019
crackhaus:


I saw where Seun also brought this up, the explanation is simple.

The act of war says there must always be provision and allowance for terms of surrender before engaging in battle. During this period, there is always a cessation of hostilities until after the discussion has broken down and no side wants to stand down. Starting from the Bible which the modern day 'Act of War' based its principles on, God instructed the israelites on what to do before engaging in war, who to kill, what to kill, who to enslave etc. (Deuteronomy 20:10, reading the entire chapter is advisable)

Even in real life, every war that has been fought on earth since those laws were put in place always follows it accordingly. There are those who go against them though, which is what is referred to as 'War Crimes' - something the Targeryans are guilty of and why the Westerosi are skeptical allowing a dragon rider to rule them again since Dragons usually destroy everything and everyone in their path.

Lol. The act of war was based on the bible? What a pile of nonsense. Seriously though, have you ever read any history book at all? There is more to history than some half-proven Jewish mythology. It irks me when Nigerians only make reference to the bible when trying to make a historical argument.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 4:22pm On May 07, 2019
FunTonic:
True, Cercei is very smart.

Even on a battle ground where blood are spilled by rival clans.

Once its time for negotiations, they put a temporary stop to the blood sheds and go to the drawing table.

That is how it is in the medieval times and even in our today's world.

Cersie has shown us she is notin if not unpredictable n volatile..

This is a woman who destroyed the Great Sept of Baelor wich had stood 4 centuries ..killing n layin waste to some of the greatest houses in westeros and beyond..their offence was dey came to see her trial or opposed her in one little way or anoda...

Same woman who made everybody believe she was ceasing hostilities to fyt alongside Dany against the army of d dead..But refused to show..yl she kept making moves to better her army n position...

this is a woman who doesnt play by d rules...Y did she av to break character all of a sudden wen her greatest enemy stands b4 her..within the range of her wrath?....Admit it bruh..

Dis show has gone to d dogs..

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 4:23pm On May 07, 2019
somehow:


But Cersei was ready to kill Tyrion (the messenger na)
Watch closely, the archers drew their arrows on the command of a general, not Cercei. It's basic defensive procedure as the enemy is coming within range.

Cercei raising up her hand then closing her fist is the signal for 'stand down', she was never ready to kill him there...but yes she was very tempted out of personal disgust to give the 'kill' signal.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by meforkene(m): 4:25pm On May 07, 2019
Good thing there are still conversations between Varys and Tyrion. Their convos give life to GOT for me....whether serious or fun discussions.
If you downplay their discussions then you are at loss.

But i don't understand why peeps here hate him so much (yeah he might not be that likeable). That bald headed fellow is one of the most upright characters in the series...one of very few that exhibit selfless devotion and sincerity of purpose.

Meanwhile, did he attempt to threaten Dany in that his talk with Tyrion? One thing for sure, he'll sing about Jon's heritage across the land. cheesy
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Isomerizm(m): 4:29pm On May 07, 2019
somehow:


Tyrone was the messenger sent by Danny to speak on her behalf just like Cersei sending the old scientist to represent her. Arrows pointed at a armless Tyrone in that scene until she waved them off.
The keyword here is messenger. She had always wanted to kill Tyrion. She made the attempt because it was Tyrion, not because it was Dany's messenger.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 4:29pm On May 07, 2019
solomonbrown64:
.....I am regretting why I even downloaded that episode, would have better used that data to watch how Jason Derulo fell in ultra HD. Seriously, WTF!

WTF did I just watch?....I had to watch the episode twice to actually believe what I just saw. The so called greatest show of all time signing out like this? From one disastrous episode to another?

.... From the NK'S death to how Brienne and her Jilted lover survived to how one dragon is pierced three times in successions like he was immobile in the air yet the spears seem to miss the other dragon who was right beside it. WTF! Is this arrogance on the part of the writers or they just believe they have dummies watching the show. Perhaps they do because I still see people defending such ridiculous writing.

.... You built a character like NK and ended him like that and then you barely built up Euron and now he is suddenly a dragon killer? How?

.... Everyday My beloved now very stupid Aegon repeats like a robot he doesn't want the throne or leadership but somehow keeps doing things that will get him one. They say he has honour yet he does stupid things to defend that hypocritical attribute of the Northern people. "Words stop meaning anything" yet a Northern leader broke a solemn vow in minutes because of envy yet people say she is smart. Honour in despising a woman who lost so much to save your ugly, proud asses. Where is the honor in such people?

....The night king was created to unite the realm blah blah blah, yet I don't see any damn unity here. If the North had their way, they would desert Dany in the blink of an eye. Honourable my ass.

...I blame Dany for all this. She could have gotten her throne first before putting precious resources in fighting what wasn't hers in the first place. She listened to demonic advices from that snake, liar and that nonsense priestess with her useless prophecies. She caused wahala finish and then killed herself.

....A woman who has suffered for what she had no hand in except that she was born a Targeran or whatever. Worked her way up to gather what she needed to pursue her ambitions and then she losses everything in days for people who should have been foot soldiers for the dead. After all this, she then fall in love with a man who has a claim to what she has given a huge part of into and now, she is depressed but people don't see this. All they see is the mad king curse because she is a Targeran what about that confused Aegon, is he not a Targeyan too? Or he doesn't count?

....I hate it when I am disappointed. I hope they don't twist this to make a hard-working woman who fought for everything she owned the villain in order to put one nonsense person on that throne. They must be another way but with the way they have written this season, I won't be surprised if something ridiculous happens.

.... What a way to end a good series.

we think along the same line bruv..I was tempted to analyse n point out d stupidity in most of s scenes in episode 4 by I decided against it..cos Dt myt take a whole day to type..

wat a way to ruin a perfectly good series tho..

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by meforkene(m): 4:30pm On May 07, 2019
Wait, do you remember the escape route Tyrion and Varys used after he killed Tywin?

Was it a tunnel or tower?

Someone should show it to Arya, the Hound, Greyworm...anyone. It may just be the best route to Cersei. And there's one spiral tower in the opening credits. wink
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 4:31pm On May 07, 2019
crixuss:


Lol. The act of war was based on the bible? What a pile of nonsense. Seriously though, have you ever read any history book at all? There is more to history than some half-proven Jewish mythology. It irks me when Nigerians only make reference to the bible when trying to make a historical argument.
Since you're more historically accurate than I am, please enlighten me on when the 'Art of War' was written by Sun Tzu and compare it to the time in history when the events of Deutoronomy 20 occurred.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 4:33pm On May 07, 2019
meforkene:
If you search, you shall find. Some people really do.
I knew sum1 else will pick dt up..

Gendry Rivers n I'm like wah?..

Still sum pple defend dis drivel..
GOT Is the greatest tv series eva...but let's admit dey ruined it in d end...

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Magnifico2000: 4:36pm On May 07, 2019
meforkene:


Disclaimer: I would not have checked if you didn't ask.

It's just a continuity error in a space of 5 seconds.

Only a woman can notice such a minute err. grin

I don't believe this. The two wigs are d same.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 4:36pm On May 07, 2019
Isomerizm:
I spoke from Greyworm's POV. Greyworm doesn't know all these. He doesn't know how important Qyburn is to Cersie. As far as Greyworm was concerned at that moment of beheading, Qyburn was simply an old, defenseless man, who doubled as the queen's hand and spokesperson. His ire that time would be directed at Cersie and Gregor.

You do know Grey Worm has killed "a baby, snatched from its mother's arms" at least once before, right?

I think the reasons he held back were

(a) Tyrion could have faced the repercussions since he was definitely within range.

(b) he was not commanded to
We don't really have much insight into Worm's personality, so we don't know why he didn't break rank and act out of grief.

Life of a Soldier
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Eberex(m): 4:41pm On May 07, 2019
crackhaus:

There's no way Jon could have spotted Arya, the Night King, or anyone in the Godswood from where he was.

Who was he saying go go to?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 4:42pm On May 07, 2019
solomonbrown64:
.....I am regretting why I even downloaded that episode, would have better used that data to watch how Jason Derulo fell in ultra HD. Seriously, WTF!

WTF did I just watch?....I had to watch the episode twice to actually believe what I just saw. The so called greatest show of all time signing out like this? From one disastrous episode to another?

.... From the NK'S death to how Brienne and her Jilted lover survived to how one dragon is pierced three times in successions like he was immobile in the air yet the spears seem to miss the other dragon who was right beside it. WTF! Is this arrogance on the part of the writers or they just believe they have dummies watching the show. Perhaps they do because I still see people defending such ridiculous writing.

.... You built a character like NK and ended him like that and then you barely built up Euron and now he is suddenly a dragon killer? How?

.... Everyday My beloved now very stupid Aegon repeats like a robot he doesn't want the throne or leadership but somehow keeps doing things that will get him one. They say he has honour yet he does stupid things to defend that hypocritical attribute of the Northern people. "Words stop meaning anything" yet a Northern leader broke a solemn vow in minutes because of envy yet people say she is smart. Honour in despising a woman who lost so much to save your ugly, proud asses. Where is the honor in such people?

....The night king was created to unite the realm blah blah blah, yet I don't see any damn unity here. If the North had their way, they would desert Dany in the blink of an eye. Honourable my ass.

...I blame Dany for all this. She could have gotten her throne first before putting precious resources in fighting what wasn't hers in the first place. She listened to demonic advices from that snake, liar and that nonsense priestess with her useless prophecies. She caused wahala finish and then killed herself.

....A woman who has suffered for what she had no hand in except that she was born a Targeran or whatever. Worked her way up to gather what she needed to pursue her ambitions and then she losses everything in days for people who should have been foot soldiers for the dead. After all this, she then fall in love with a man who has a claim to what she has given a huge part of into and now, she is depressed but people don't see this. All they see is the mad king curse because she is a Targeran what about that confused Aegon, is he not a Targeyan too? Or he doesn't count?

....I hate it when I am disappointed. I hope they don't twist this to make a hard-working woman who fought for everything she owned the villain in order to put one nonsense person on that throne. They must be another way but with the way they have written this season, I won't be surprised if something ridiculous happens.

.... What a way to end a good series.
It won't be fair to Dany to die and not get to sit on the iron throne though cheesy

Although, I predict it's Jon who will be king of the seven kingdoms. My only wish is that Dany sits beside him as queen and that the love she claims to have for him allows her to be comfortable in it.

Truth be told, Jon is actually the only one who can rule over the entire realm and even those beyond the wall while sitting on that throne.
He already has the support and followership, not to mention that he does come first before Dany in the line of succession being a male Targeryan, whether we like it or not.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by meforkene(m): 4:44pm On May 07, 2019
Magnifico2000:

I don't believe this. The two wigs are d same.

Spot the difference go hard for you o. I had to watch that part again for fun. Leave the colour of the wig and check the weave on the wig.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ksslib(m): 4:48pm On May 07, 2019
Dami12345:


Did I over shoot or undershoot?
Why are you interested in my age?

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