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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 6:35pm On May 07, 2019
Eberex:


Noooo! You must hear it. Increase the volume of the TV on that scene. cheesy
gringrin

Okay let's say he said that & I heard it, you can't possibly think he was signalling Arya na. Haba bros
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by oyetpel(m): 6:37pm On May 07, 2019
trustbaba:
Sorry it's supposed to be arya not dany
You all should stop about Dany not saving the north.
Arya would have turned to a wight if not for Dany's assistance.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by BoleAndFish: 6:41pm On May 07, 2019
IamD18:
Lol, almost every fan of that show love Danny, but my love for am come get k-leg when she asked Jon not to tell anyone that he's a Targaryen. Lol.

She's so obsessed with the throne, her love for the throne is more than the one she has for her people.
See it another way.

She has put in a lot for this. She has lost people that were truly loyal to her and close to her heart. She's lost warriors.. Name it.

All of that should just be for nothing? No, bro!

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 6:41pm On May 07, 2019
computerboy:


He's no ordinary messenger. He's the Queen's hand and an evil one at that
Lol, the Queen/King's hand is just what we refer to in modern times as Foreign Minister/Minister of Foreign Affairs or as the Americans call it, Secretary of State.

You can't possibly murder this person while he or she is on a mission from his King/Queen/President to discuss a peace deal. Get it now?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Vivipop(f): 6:41pm On May 07, 2019
On a lighter note, so Danny isn't gonna get preggy? I bet if she ever does, that could be the only thing that would make her not to go the haywire way and probably stand beside Jon in the throne room.
Could Arya get pregnant? Am I asking for too much? Maybe that would change her mind towards being the lady of Stormend.
Could Brienne be carrying A little Lannister? I don't believe Cercie is pregnant and even if she is, that baby cannot live.
Gilly is pregnant, what would happen to little Sam? Is he still gonna be the heir to hornhill now that Gilly is carrying Samwel's real child?
I want a main character to get knocked up real fast and I don't know why I want that. Anyway...

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Seun(m): 6:45pm On May 07, 2019
blackteddy:
Someone should help me explain how missandei was captured, coz I don't seem to get that part
To enjoy this final season, you should get used to not understanding things. The writers don't care anymore. The 'answer': she was on a canoe.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by oyetpel(m): 6:47pm On May 07, 2019
Lord Gendry.

Sounds nice

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nicolars(m): 6:47pm On May 07, 2019
Vivipop:
On a lighter note, so Danny isn't gonna get preggy? I bet if she ever does, that could be the only thing that would make her not to go the haywire way and probably stand beside Jon in the throne room.
Could Arya get pregnant? Am I asking for too much? Maybe that would change her mind towards being the lady of Stormend.
Could Brienne be carrying A little Lannister? I don't believe Cercie is pregnant and even if she is, that baby cannot live.
Gilly is pregnant, what would happen to little Sam? Is he still gonna be the heir to hornhill now that Gilly is carrying Samwel's real child?
I want a main character to get knocked up real fast and I don't know why I want that. Anyway...

You seem to have a nack for pregnancy

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by IamD18: 6:47pm On May 07, 2019
BoleAndFish:
See it another way.

She has put in a lot for this. She has lost people that were truly loyal to her and close to her heart. She's lost warriors.. Name it.

All of that should just be for nothing? No, bro!
You lots seems not to understand my point.

I'm not saying she didn't fight, I'm trying to correct the notion that she SAVED or fought for the North, she didn't, she fought WITH the North to save the LIVING.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by MaziOmenuko: 6:53pm On May 07, 2019
Cybertext:



The virginity of Brienne was just a wide guess by Tyrion, no one was sure if she had been with a man or woman before except of cause Jamie who knew when they were riding down south together in season 3.

I'm sure u watched episode 2, when Jamie revealed to Tyruon that cersie was really pregnant

Eberex:


Look like you didn't watch season 7. Go back and watch before coming hear and blabbing. Everyone except you knew Cersei was pregnant before now

Seems you guys missed the conversation she had with Eurion with Qyburn by the side.

"When the war is won the lion shall rule the land, the *crackened [sic] shall rule the sea....and our child shall one day rule them all".

The last I checked, the first time they both fvcked was few episodes ago. By then, Jamie had already left. The exchange of glance between eurion and Qyburn should confirm to you who the father of the baby supposedly is.

In case you didn't notice, Cercei was drinking heavily even the morning after they fvcked. She wasn't pregnant then...so the dwarf wouldn't know. Unless of course Cercei has been lying both to Jamie and Euron.

if Cercei is really pregnant, who is the father? She has hinted to Euron that he is the father, the dwarf is not supposed to know that! So Euron should actually be worried right now that!
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by RuthlessLeader(m): 7:01pm On May 07, 2019
IamD18:

Danny fought WITH the North to save the LIVING.
And the north are dead people shebi?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Isomerizm(m): 7:04pm On May 07, 2019
Nicolars:


You seem to have a nack for pregnancy

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by IamD18: 7:05pm On May 07, 2019
RuthlessLeader:

And the north are dead people shebi?
Danny and her people na dead dem be?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by RuthlessLeader(m): 7:12pm On May 07, 2019
IamD18:
Danny and her people na dead dem be?
Dany and her people cannot go back to meereen, or stay in dragonstone? The dead can't swim na.

I really don't know why you are trying to downplay her heroic action. This is the same dany who abolished slavery in the free cities even when she could have benefitted a lot from it.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crixuss(m): 7:17pm On May 07, 2019
crackhaus:

I decided to engage you on this despite the rudeness in your earlier comment, because I was so sure you would end up making my point for me.

First point:
I never said GRRM's work is based on the bible or Sun Tzu's work. I said the Art of War is something that has been laid down for ages so i understand why there is a cessation of hostilities to allow for discussing terms of surrender.

Second point:
If you have truly read the Art of War, the Deuteronomy account of the rules of war, and any other historical book that talks about war tactics, you would most certainly have seen how they all look the same.
The laws of war as stated in the Geneva Convention also looks the same as that in Deutoronomy, you can go confirm that if you want.

The esteemed and renowned people who gathered to pen down the war guidelines in the Geneva convention didn't think the Deuteronomy account was just a fairytale before incorporating it therein, so what you believe or don't believe about the bible doesn't just matter at all in the grand scheme of things.

Cheers

No. Your initial argument was that the modern day Art of War which Game of Thrones relies on in its story telling was derived from the bible and dictated by God as evidenced in Deuteronomy and I called bullshit on that claim. Here are your exact words:

"Starting from the Bible which the modern day
'Act of War' based its principles on, God instructed the
israelites on what to do before engaging in war, who to kill,
what to kill, who to enslave etc. (Deuteronomy 20:10, reading
the entire chapter is advisable)"

No. The rules of war in all historical societies don't look the same. The rules of law of the Mongols, also known as the Yassa, was different from that of the Islamic and Persian. territories they conquered. The rules of war of the Visigoths was different from that of the Romans. Rules of war have always differed across cultures and geographical territories, and some weren't even laid at all. Whatever similarities they share are almost negligible when put up against the weight of their differences.

NO. HELL NO. The rules of war that was crafted in Geneva IS NOT SIMILAR to the rules dictated in Deuteronomy or Leviticus or Numbers or Exodus. This is palpably absurd. How can you even make this sort of claim? The Israelites were a genocidal group of warriors. Their rules of war given to them by their God allowed for wiping out of entire nations, including the murder of children and babies. The Geneva war guidelines doesn't even allow for killing of unarmed civilians, let alone ethnic cleansing which was endorsed by the God of the Israelites. The Geneva guidelines also prohibit the capture of unarmed civilians and the use of them as slaves. But the rules of war of the Israelites allowed for the enslavement of members of the conquered territories. Whatever similarity is shared between the Geneva guidelines and the Deuteronomy account doesn't admit of a causal relationship between the two, but rather the presence within the biblical myth of commonsensical notions of war that any society could have come up with through military experience.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Magnifico2000: 7:22pm On May 07, 2019
RuthlessLeader:

And the north are dead people shebi?
IamD18:
You lots seems not to understand my point.

I'm not saying she didn't fight, I'm trying to correct the notion that she SAVED or fought for the North, she didn't, she fought WITH the North to save the LIVING.
oyetpel:

They saved eachother's ass

You all should stop about Dany not saving the north.

Arya would have turned to a wight if not for Dany's assistance.
We all know this. Some people don't want to just accept it.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 7:33pm On May 07, 2019
Vivipop:
On a lighter note, so Danny isn't gonna get preggy? I bet if she ever does, that could be the only thing that would make her not to go the haywire way and probably stand beside Jon in the throne room.
Could Arya get pregnant? Am I asking for too much? Maybe that would change her mind towards being the lady of Stormend.
Could Brienne be carrying A little Lannister? I don't believe Cercie is pregnant and even if she is, that baby cannot live.
Gilly is pregnant, what would happen to little Sam? Is he still gonna be the heir to hornhill now that Gilly is carrying Samwel's real child?
I want a main character to get knocked up real fast and I don't know why I want that. Anyway...
it only two episodes that is remaining oh, nobody is getting pregnant, it is just war, maybe they should do a spin-off with arya as the main character but the setting shouldn't be kinglanding
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by DP84: 7:35pm On May 07, 2019
Honestly, ehn... I don't understand what is happening with the show...

Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 7:35pm On May 07, 2019
IamD18:
You lots seems not to understand my point.

I'm not saying she didn't fight, I'm trying to correct the notion that she SAVED or fought for the North, she didn't, she fought WITH the North to save the LIVING.
dude rest na, nobody dey agree with you, before you go dey sound like broken record, no insult intented

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Eberex(m): 7:52pm On May 07, 2019
MaziOmenuko:




Seems you guys missed the conversation she had with Eurion with Qyburn by the side.

"When the war is won the lion shall rule the land, the *crackened [sic] shall rule the sea....and our child shall one day rule them all".

The last I checked, the first time they both fvcked was few episodes ago. By then, Jamie had already left. The exchange of glance between eurion and Qyburn should confirm to you who the father of the baby supposedly is.

In case you didn't notice, Cercei was drinking heavily even the morning after they fvcked. She wasn't pregnant then...so the dwarf wouldn't know. Unless of course Cercei has been lying both to Jamie and Euron.

if Cercei is really pregnant, who is the father? She has hinted to Euron that he is the father, the dwarf is not supposed to know that! So Euron should actually be worried right now that!

So you didn't watch the season where she told Jamie that she is pregnant?

When Tyrion went in for a peace talk with Cersei in the last season, didn't she admit the pregnancy even though she tried to hide it, Tyrion found out.

Unless you want to tell me she lost the baby before Euron entered the picture.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by solomonbrown64: 7:53pm On May 07, 2019
crackhaus:

Honestly, at this point I'm all for using Drogon to rain down fire on kingslanding. If he can do that while reducing innocent casualties down to a minimum, better for everyone.
Another scenario is that Arya actually sneaks in and successfully murders Cercei quietly.

The tactic of using diplomacy has failed with Cercei up till this point and now more than ever, I believe the words of Otto Von Bismark, former Prussian (German) minister in his speech to parliament;
"The great questions of the day will not be decided by speeches and resolutions, but by blood and iron"... I'm adding 'fire' to that, in the name of Drogon. cheesy

I say, kill them all.

....Lol, if Drogon is to rain fire on anyone, he should start with the people of the North and the yeye Stark family. Citizens of Kings landing don't deserve to be killed but from the preview of the next episode, it's like Cercei will start destruction with Euron and his ships which is the best way to go. Cripple Cercei first and then we will see who will be pulled out root and stem.

.....I believe someone must have advised her and calmed her anger, only Aegon can do that. The plus for the destruction that will be unleashed next episode is that it will be in daylight. That episode 3 will forever remain the worth battle I have ever watched.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 8:03pm On May 07, 2019
crixuss:

No. The rules of war in all historical societies don't look the same. The rules of law of the Mongols, also known as the Yassa, was different from that of the Islamic and Persian. territories they conquered. The rules of war of the Visigoths was different from that of the Romans. Rules of war have always differed across cultures and geographical territories, and some weren't even laid at all. Whatever similarities they share are almost negligible when put up against the weight of their differences.

NO. HELL NO. The rules of war that was crafted in Geneva IS NOT SIMILAR to the rules dictated in Deuteronomy or Leviticus or Numbers or Exodus. This is palpably absurd. How can you even make this sort of claim? The Israelites were a genocidal group of warriors. Their rules of war given to them by their God allowed for wiping out of entire nations, including the murder of children and babies. The Geneva war guidelines doesn't even allow for killing of unarmed civilians, let alone ethnic cleansing which was endorsed by the God of the Israelites. The Geneva guidelines also prohibit the capture of unarmed civilians and the use of them as slaves. But the rules of war of the Israelites allowed for the enslavement of members of the conquered territories. Whatever similarity is shared between the Geneva guidelines and the Deuteronomy account doesn't admit of a causal relationship between the two, but rather the presence within the biblical myth of commonsensical notions of war that any society could have come up with through military experience.

Deuteronomy 20:10
. " When you go near a city to fight against it, then proclaim an offer of peace to it.

Deuteronomy 20:11
. "And it shall be that if they accept your offer of peace, and open to you, then all the people [who are] found in it shall be placed under tribute to you, and serve you.

*(The verse above [20:11] is NOT akin to slavery, it's called 'COLONIZATION')*. Take Note.

Deuteronomy 20:12
. "Now if [the city] will not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it.

Deuteronomy 20:13
. "And when the LORD your God delivers it into your hands, you shall strike every male in it with the edge of the sword.

Deuteronomy 20:14
. "But the women, the little ones, the livestock, and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall plunder [take] for yourself; and you shall eat the enemies' plunder which the LORD your God gives you.




Dude if you don't have all the information, please desist from quoting me with Google knowledge.
Go read the rules of war as stated in all iterations of the Geneva Conventions and you will see the similarities with the rules of engagement as stated in the book of Deuteronomy (It is extensive and goes as far as chapter 23).
Every other sovereign territory/country has followed similar patterns from before the time of Sun Tzu to the present.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 8:25pm On May 07, 2019
solomonbrown64:


....Lol, if Drogon is to rain fire on anyone, he should start with the people of the North and the yeye Stark family. Citizens of Kings landing don't deserve to be killed but from the preview of the next episode, it's like Cercei will start destruction with Euron and his ships which is the best way to go. Cripple Cercei first and then we will see who will be pulled out root and stem.

.....I believe someone must have advised her and calmed her anger, only Aegon can do that. The plus for the destruction that will be unleashed next episode is that it will be in daylight. That episode 3 will forever remain the worth battle I have ever watched.

Well the Iron Throne is not in the North, so they have no need to die by dragon breath cheesy

Kingslanding is fvcked if I was one of the showrunners.
I would focus the rain of fire on the Red Keep, at least save anyone not there from the fiery destruction. grin
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Cybertext(m): 8:33pm On May 07, 2019
MaziOmenuko:




Seems you guys missed the conversation she had with Eurion with Qyburn by the side.

"When the war is won the lion shall rule the land, the *crackened [sic] shall rule the sea....and our child shall one day rule them all".

The last I checked, the first time they both fvcked was few episodes ago. By then, Jamie had already left. The exchange of glance between eurion and Qyburn should confirm to you who the father of the baby supposedly is.

In case you didn't notice, Cercei was drinking heavily even the morning after they fvcked. She wasn't pregnant then...so the dwarf wouldn't know. Unless of course Cercei has been lying both to Jamie and Euron.

if Cercei is really pregnant, who is the father? She has hinted to Euron that he is the father, the dwarf is not supposed to know that! So Euron should actually be worried right now that!


Like I said earlier Cersie is the smartest lannister , she has been pregnant long before season 8 and Jamie knew that before heading to winterfell.

She only told Euron what Euron needs to hear.


Cersie detest Euron but she needs allies and a commander to lead the troops...trust me if Cersie wins the war she will cut out Euron.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crixuss(m): 8:36pm On May 07, 2019
crackhaus:


Deuteronomy 20:10
. " When you go near a city to fight against it, then proclaim an offer of peace to it.

Deuteronomy 20:11
. "And it shall be that if they accept your offer of peace, and open to you, then all the people [who are] found in it shall be placed under tribute to you, and serve you.

*(The verse above [20:11] is NOT akin to slavery, it's called 'COLONIZATION')*. Take Note.

Deuteronomy 20:12
. "Now if [the city] will not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it.

Deuteronomy 20:13
. "And when the LORD your God delivers it into your hands, you shall strike every male in it with the edge of the sword.

Deuteronomy 20:14
. "But the women, the little ones, the livestock, and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall plunder [take] for yourself; and you shall eat the enemies' plunder which the LORD your God gives you.



Dude if you don't have all the information, please desist from quoting me with Google knowledge.
Go read the rules of war as stated in all iterations of the Geneva Conventions and you will see the similarities with the rules of engagement as stated in the book of Deuteronomy (It is extensive and goes as far as chapter 23).
Every other sovereign territory/country has followed similar patterns from before the time of Sun Tzu to the present.

Here is the summary of the Geneva convention rules of war.

1. No targeting of civilians.
2. No torture or inhumane treatment of detainees
3. No attacking of hospitals or aid centers.
4. Provision of safe passage for civilians to flee
5. Provision of access to humanitarian organizations.
6. No unnecessary or excessive loss or suffering.

All the verses you quoted break all these rules. How is this even an argument? Chapter 20:14 clearly states to kill every male. This goes against the NO TARGETING OF CIVILIANS RULE.

How dare you quote laws that instruct the killing of civilians and the allowance of slave ownership and the selfish plundering of the conquered nations resources, and draw a similarity between it and the rules of the Geneva convention that are humanitarian in intent? Are you high?

By the way, Deuteronomy 20:11 endorses slavery, not colonization. It's clearly says to make conquered people SERVE you.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by urboyAce(m): 8:37pm On May 07, 2019
Eberex:


You are funny. You have convinced yourself of your theory so much you don't see any other possibilities.

If he was going to shout, will it be gooo gooo? Is that what he will shout in order to scare off the dragon? He can't possibly be telling the dragon to go go, would he?

he was shouting no no!
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Vivipop(f): 8:42pm On May 07, 2019
Cinderallagirl:
it only two episodes that is remaining oh, nobody is getting pregnant, it is just war, maybe they should do a spin-off with arya as the main character but the setting shouldn't be kinglanding
Two episodes for all the unanswered questions is just not gonna do it. Well, I want to see how they wrap this up.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by GMan650(m): 8:47pm On May 07, 2019
armadeo:



The Lannister brothers would.have him killed. Last last

Thought you were binging the whole season
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by solomonbrown64: 8:54pm On May 07, 2019
crackhaus:

Well the Iron Throne is not in the North, so they have no need to die by dragon breath cheesy

Kingslanding is fvcked if I was one of the showrunners.
would focus the rain of fire on the Red Keep, at least save anyone not there from the fiery destruction. grin

.... Lol, mad man. Greyworm too will display free madness on Sunday. I really pity the mountain, e go soon clear for im eyes.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Magnifico2000: 9:04pm On May 07, 2019
DP84:
Honestly, ehn... I don't understand what is happening with the show...
DP84:
Honestly, ehn... I don't understand what is happening with the show...
There is no need to complain about this. They can decide to use another person to play a character. It doesn't matter. So many things could have happened leading to changing of a person for a character.
Do u know that two people played Daario Neharis.
Do you know that two people played Dickon Tarly, samwell tarly's younger brother.
Do you also know that two people played Gregor. (the mountain)
Do you also know that tommen Baratheon played two roles. Firstly, as a cousin of Jamie Lannister. One of the Lannisters killed by Lord Karstark under Robb's reign
Secondly as tommen Baratheon himself.
So there shouldn't be any fuse about changing people playing the same character.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by nani6666: 9:13pm On May 07, 2019
Just seen the latest Episode... My dude Jon snow is now a Casual hand bag.... Turned himself to Pant.... Sad something.... No matter whatever he says, he bent that knee cos of the P... His people were not in his mind at all ✔️


Meanwhile, Deanerys slowly getting backed to a corner... Two Dragons down, one left, and fear wee not even let that one come within striking distance, as There are plenty of OP Spears too waste... She even had the mind to ask Cerci to Surrender, when they just casually wrecked her Dragons... Smh... Well, at least now she knows they mean business...


Jamie tho, just when we thought the dude was finally free from that incestuous Pússy, baba ran back to her as soon as he heard she could die... Epic Lost Cause


The way things are going, I won't be surprised if they end up Killing Jon Snow again, Arya will probably be the one to kill him this time, in order to save everyone from his Lovesick Idiocy and stop him from selling all of them to a Power Hungry dragon Lady

Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Bunique: 9:30pm On May 07, 2019
I just feel the dragons are too soft and not really combatant. compare these dragons in GOT to "Smaug" in the movie "the hobbits" who single handedly to sacked and occupied the home of the dwarves.
why did Dany not think of constructing strong body armor for her dragons?

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