Evangkatsoulis:


In america and other western countries exceptional(profoundly gifted) students do get perfect scores in such exams, some as early as 10 years or 11. I don't think 86% is high enough. Maybe 390+ to account for small errors. But still to me, there is nothing stopping any candidate from getting 400.

jamb,at least the jamb i knew,is far harder than any american secondary school exam. They dont compare and university admission age in u.s is still late teens 17,18 usually.

Evangkatsoulis:

He is a schoar how? Where in the post is it stated that he is gifted?
What stopped him from scoring 400? 347 seems too low.

you are insane to call 347 too low. When ppl try multiple times just to cross 200. Anything above 240 is very good 300+ is phenomenal.

kehinde1588:
Igbo amaka

Oya let the chest beating continue.

Small achievement, they begin to chest beat as if they have never experienced greatness in their life before.


Congrats to the young boy.

If it is small, break the record.

yommen:


Seriously, I am wowed the way Ibos throw parties here anytime an ibo name is mentioned for good things here. It only means you guys are always looking for something to prove to others and it's always targeted at Yorubas.

The actual truth is you guys see Yoruba as your only threat towards your claims of supremacy whereas very good and excellent achievements come from all.

Why you guys come out just to throw it to the faces of Yorubas only shows your inferiority complex. Excellent archivements are not new to Yorubas, point of correction.

but if is crime,you wont tell us that crime is not new to yorubas.


Hypocrite.

kehinde1588:

MorufuAtanda omo ibo .

Have you guys forgotten about Biafra?

Why are you bringing up the issue of President again

Kehinde Noun starts with capital letter. Igbo ibo Ibo

wonderr:

so that u can join with KANU and split our country for us
we never split self we they beg God

Does it mean you people cant stand on una own?

AreaFada2:

As for pride and Igbo, I partly disagree. It takes a great deal of resilience and self belief to come out of the crushing defeat of Biafra war stronger. It wasn't easy.

Also the republican and relatively individualistic nature of Igbo means they can be rightly proud of personal achievements.

Not addressing the War properly has left unhealed wounds and stifled reconciliation.

It might seem like we have moved on. But we have not. We just suppressed it. What we see now is like PTSD from that war. Affecting us nationally.

I am not Igbo by the way.

Yea. I that has not been properly handled. I read govt actually made some commendable efforts at damage control to unify us again. But what do you suppose govt does?
Honouring it with a Biafra public holiday might actually do more harm than good. Don't you think?

Lemme keep my thoughts to myself before Nairalanders stone me to death .
Congrats though

Evangkatsoulis:


In america and other western countries exceptional(profoundly gifted) students do get perfect scores in such exams, some as early as 10 years or 11. I don't think 86% is high enough. Maybe 390+ to account for small errors. But still to me, there is nothing stopping any candidate from getting 400.

You have to put in perspective what we have to work with. I think the best westerners would probably be able to score a perfect score on Jamb. Even moderately smart Americans and Asians should score a perfect score on Jamb. Jamb is not a really difficult exam and the answers are not even that close, they are obvious if you have an idea of the topic.

The problem is that the typical Nigerian education is sub standard, and coupled with our low IQ, it's easy to see why a 347 is incredible. Anything above 250 is top 3 percentile and that ain't something to sniff at in Nigeria.

Also, JAMB is a knowledge based exam, so people with good/eidetic memories would probably do better.

In addition, the exam is written in a foreign language. Even though, we speak English in Nigeria, most of us still think in our native language and something is lost during translation to English.

I agree, giftedness cannot be determined, in the Nigerian context, based on Jamb score.

We have a gifted school in Suleja, and none of the students do very well in Jamb.

When you look at the west, there is consistency. The same gifted students in primary school, do well in secondary school and go on to the Oxbridges, Williams, Swarthmores of this world. And there is correlation between parents income and academic achievement; in Nigeria, there is an inverse relationship. I don't understand how people with little resources can out do people with money and access. I think the answer is obvious; massive cheating in rural areas.

In Nigeria, there is no consistency; you see malnourished poor students veith uneducated parents doing well in Jamb, and these same students do horribly in WAEC, and these students have no antecedents at the secondary and primary School level.

It beats me how poor students from no name schools do better than folks from places like Kings college, Loyola etc.

The system is effed up and I personally do not think the kids with 347 can reproduce it. Doesn't take anything away from him though.

Igban Emmanuel, the second guy is from The Ambassadors College, Ota. He participated in 2018 cowbelpedia but didn't play in the final

pressplay411:


Yea. I that has not been properly handled. I read govt actually made some commendable efforts at damage control to unify us again. But what do you suppose govt does?
Honouring it with a Biafra public holiday might actually do more harm than good. Don't you think?

Can you tell us the commendable efforts that was made?
What happened to the 3Rs nigeria promise to biafrans(reconciliation,rehabilitation
and reconstruction)

was there any reconciliation?

Was there any rehabilitation?

Did they reconstruct anything in east?

My Niece scored 289 phy chem Bio Eng. Intending to study Medicine at University of Ibadan. Any hope?

goodnessme1:
Can you tell us the commendable efforts that was made?
What happened to the 3Rs nigeria promise to biafrans(reconciliation,rehabilitation
and reconstruction)

was there any reconciliation?

Was there any rehabilitation?

Did they reconstruct anything in east?

You should be asking your politicians these questions, not some random guy on NL

A lot has � done to fulfill the 3Rs.

Trustme2:
My Niece scored 289 phy chem Bio Eng. Intending to study Medicine at University of Ibadan. Any hope?

No hope. He needs 340. Tell him you start preparing for the next jamb ASAP

paulnewplay:

jamb,at least the jamb i knew,is far harder than any american secondary school exam. They dont compare and university admission age in u.s is still late teens 17,18 usually.

Harder by what metric? It is a knowledge-based exam with recommended textbooks for each subjects. Questions for each subject do not bypass the listed books. Your chemistry is your new school chem, comprehensive. Your biology is your essential biology, modern biology. Your physics is your new school physics, essential physics, comprehensive physics, P.N. Okeke. Your math is your further math by Odili, new general, additional math by Godman.
These questions are drawn from these books, and anyone with an understanding of the topics should be able to understand those shallow questions.
These books combined do not have up to 20000 pages and know many geniuses the US who would clear such materials in matter of hours or at worse, days.
347 means dude failed at least 26 questions out of 250. Not impressed.

xelly:


Kehinde Noun starts with capital letter. Igbo ibo Ibo

Its ibo not Igbo.

Kill yourself

oduademonest:


You should be asking your politicians these questions, not some random guy on NL

A lot has � done to fulfill the 3Rs.

A lot has done that it becomes too big for the eyes to see.

I dont have time for blind argue.

Abia state is really doing well academically for two years now they produced d best WAEC result now Jamb. This is lovely

kehinde1588:
Its ibo not Igbo.
Kill yourself

Yoloba man.
They never disappoint

Evangkatsoulis:


Harder by what metric? It is a knowledge-based exam with recommended textbooks for each subjects. Questions for each subject do not bypass the listed books. Your chemistry is your new school chem, comprehensive. Your biology is your essential biology, modern biology. Your physics is your new school physics, essential physics, comprehensive physics, P.N. Okeke. Your math is your further math by Odili, new general, additional math by Godman.
These questions are drawn from these books, and anyone with an understanding of the topics should be able to understand those shallow questions.
These books combined do not have up to 20000 pages and know many geniuses the US who would clear such materials in matter of hours or at worse, days.
347 means dude failed at least 26 questions out of 250. Not impressed.

Wetin you come score for your jamb, post your score make we see.

goodnessme1:
Yoloba man.

They never disappoint

... I swear I do not hate Igbos. But the matter most memont you guys start bragging, it pisses me off.

oduademonest:


You have to put in perspective what we have to work with. I think the best westerners would probably be able to score a perfect score on Jamb. Even moderately smart Americans and Asians should score a perfect score on Jamb. Jamb is not a really difficult exam and the answers are not even that close, they are obvious if you have an idea of the topic.

The problem is that the typical Nigerian education is sub standard, and coupled with our low IQ, it's easy to see why a 347 is incredible. Anything above 250 is top 3 percentile and that ain't something to sniff at in Nigeria.

Also, JAMB is a knowledge based exam, so people with good/eidetic memories would probably do better.

In addition, the exam is written in a foreign language. Even though, we speak English in Nigeria, most of us still think in our native language and something is lost during translation to English.

I agree, giftedness cannot be determined, in the Nigerian context, based on Jamb score.

We have a gifted school in Suleja, and none of the students do very well in Jamb.

When you look at the west, there is consistency. The same gifted students in primary school, do well in secondary school and go on to the Oxbridges, Williams, Swarthmores of this world. And there is correlation between parents income and academic achievement; in Nigeria, there is an inverse relationship. I don't understand how people with little resources can out do people with money and access. I think the answer is obvious; massive cheating in rural areas.

In Nigeria, there is no consistency; you see malnourished poor students veith uneducated parents doing well in Jamb, and these same students do horribly in WAEC, and these students have no antecedents at the secondary and primary School level.

It beats me how poor students from no name schools do better than folks from places like Kings college, Loyola etc.

The system is effed up and I personally do not think the kids with 347 can reproduce it. Doesn't take anything away from him though.

But wait. How do these 'gifted schools' get gifted students? Why genuine iq tests or do they use an arbitrary definition of giftedness?

kehinde1588:


... I swear I do not hate Igbos. But the matter most memont you guys start bragging, it pisses me off.

you people's hatred for IGBOS is like a blood tonic us.

If you like hate,if like dont.

Evangkatsoulis:

But wait. How do these 'gifted schools' get gifted students? Why genuine iq tests or do they use an arbitrary definition of giftedness?

We do a federally administered exam after primary school. They just pick the best students, based on scores!

The exam is knowledge based, prioritizing rote over critical thinking skills. The ask questions like : who is the secretary general of the UN? What's the meaning of ECOWAS etc

Also, there is a lot of corruption cos it's free if you are admitted so parents go all out to help their children, by hook or by crook.

goodnessme1:
Can you tell us the commendable efforts that was made?
What happened to the 3Rs nigeria promise to biafrans(reconciliation,rehabilitation
and reconstruction)

was there any reconciliation?

Was there any rehabilitation?

Did they reconstruct anything in east?

Of course they did. Not to satisfaction but they actually did.
Reconciliation and Rehabilitation is why Igbo's are all over the country carrying out all their civic rights. Except Presidency, and truly that's because Igbo's carry an air of breaking the nation and re-establishing Biafra even at the slightest agitation.
Reconstruction is likewise there, but Igbo's won't be satisfied until they see ports. Which honestly govt is being wise about.
The level of abuse the import and export industry is experiencing (mostly by igbos businessmen) even when it's not in the East is a premonition to the decadence inherent if constructed there.

oduademonest:


We do a federally administered exam after primary school. They just pick the best students, based on scores!

The exam is knowledge based, prioritizing rote over critical thinking skills. The ask questions like : who is the secretary general of the UN? What's the meaning of ECOWAS etc

Also, there is a lot of corruption cos it's free if you are admitted so parents go all out to help their children, by hook or by crook.

How do they measure Visuo-spatial reasoning(important for STEM) or verbal abilities or pattern recognition and logic? I don't really think it is a gifted school as advertised'

oduademonest:


No hope. He needs 340. Tell him you start preparing for the next jamb ASAP

How? When the highest is 347? Haba Bros. Not yet considered the WAEC and Post UME

pressplay411:


Yea. I that has not been properly handled. I read govt actually made some commendable efforts at damage control to unify us again. But what do you suppose govt does?
Honouring it with a Biafra public holiday might actually do more harm than good. Don't you think?

A lot more could have been done. And can still be done. This is where the youth should focus. Not Afonja & Ipob name calling.

The bolded depends on which perspective one sees it from.

Compensation for loss of Igbo people's assets and bank accounts was grossly inadequate. Yes, money was initially tight after the war. But by 1972 oil was booming and by 1973 Gulf crises led to oil price hike. Money was flowing. Udoji award to workers could have been halved. The rest going into more compensation for Igbo people.

Despite the "No victor, no vanquished" declaration of Gowon, the body language and general attitude of FG showed otherwise.

It took Shagari govt, after 13 years exile to pardon Ojukwu. A major mistake.

There should have been a national conference on Biafra war much earlier. Where all parties can express their views freely. And to find lasting solutions to prevent such secession bids in the future.

Because FG failed to "own" the civil war narrative in a way acceptable to all, various groups now capitalise on that lingering sense of injustice, pain and perceived marginalization.

We cannot deny that some of those who have distinguished themselves the most doing national assignments are and were Igbo people. Like Jaja Wachuku, Jerome Udoji, Prof H. Nwosu of NECON/Electoral Commission, Dora Akinuli, Joy Ogwu, etc. So continued marginalisation is our collective loss.

Civil War Remembrance day would be about tribute to those who perished on both sides collectively? Why would that be a bad thing?
If we have not civilised to the point of doing so without causing problems, then we have a long way to go.

Meanwhile in the other news one Adamu from Kastina state has came out bottom in Jamb after scoring a total of 17 marks while attempting 95% of the questions

Evangkatsoulis:

How do they measure Visuo-spatial reasoning(important for STEM) or verbal abilities or pattern recognition and logic? I don't really think it is a gifted school as advertised'

We only have one. It's in Suleja. Not world class obviously, but very few Nigerians appreciate esoteric skills like visuospatial reasoning, logic, etc

Even in JAMB, most Nigerians think it is our equivalent of SAT, which it is not, visuospatial skill is not tested. Logic is not tested outrightly. Even the maths section is purely rote. The verbal section tested is a joke, compared to the SAT.

But you can only give what you have, most people think these exams are hard because they have not been adequately prepared for them.