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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by plaindealer: 9:28pm On May 15, 2019
nijabazaar:


plz stop, stop, stop this nonsense.

nigeria x not better now.
Its Super worse.

stop all these lies.

If Nigeria is half as goodd as you put it we wont have this Bloomberg piece nor 23% unemployment.

Stop been delusional....please



You are entitled to your flawed and myopic opinion, but not facts.

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by Chukwurah003: 10:11pm On May 15, 2019
PDP are evil. See the amount of damage they did to Nigeria. That party is a satanic party.

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by Nobody: 10:11pm On May 15, 2019
Okay
Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by spectroscopic: 10:16pm On May 15, 2019
plaindealer:




You are entitled to your flawed and myopic opinion, but not facts.

Bloomberg is an IPOB Youth publication. grin grin grin grin

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by Bede2u(m): 10:16pm On May 15, 2019
Guestlander:


Every subject is an opportunity to advance your separatist agenda.
If the rain is too much today, separate us.
Palm wine is not available at the joint, separate us.
good thing u noticed that. Now u knw that the Igbos really mean business with biafra. Its not a joke or a game

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by Reference(m): 10:16pm On May 15, 2019
No comment. Not interested. Said enough. Off to Warri this weekend for inspection and ground breaking. New business at hand. No time for nonsense.
Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by nijabazaar: 10:16pm On May 15, 2019
plaindealer:



You are entitled to your flawed and myopic opinion, but not facts.
my opinion is flawed? and yours is perfect?
Delusional Flint!

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by Salebo: 10:20pm On May 15, 2019
jimi4us:
Only a mad person will counter this.

Nov 22nd 2014,Rice hits N10,000 per 50kg bag at Lagos market..

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/11/rice-hits-n10000-per-50kg-bag-lagos-market/%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwif2uX7up7iAhXp2eAKHYi7AocQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2Kg9CEDwR8Vp3P414Dhvij&ampcf=1

And why did your "heelo of democracy" not reduce the price of riceI for one bought rice under OBaj at 2,350naira...And the same for other commodities...

Don't come here brandishing your low class intellectual mentality...
Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by GEEBITE: 10:21pm On May 15, 2019
Bloomberg's report is useless hmm.Can you commissiona your own report and let's compare notes.Seems you guys have lost your sense of reasoning for partisanship.quote author=plaindealer post=78418376]

...but in 2014, GEJ introduced austerity measures even though we earned more oil money in the history of Nigeria under GEJ and it still did not prevent him from declaring austerity measures in 2014 when oil was $77 per barrel.

So, what was the result under GEJ? We were still in darkness, no completed project, no road, no bridges, no quality healthcare, no railway, no stable electricity, nothing. Nothing but abandoned projects all over Nigeria, now we are completing projects that they abandoned for 30-40 years.

Today, Nigeria is starting and completing rail projects in less than 3 years, what they couldn't complete in 30 years.

Useless report without context and realities.
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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by spectroscopic: 10:22pm On May 15, 2019
plaindealer:




You are entitled to your flawed and myopic opinion, but not facts.

We know for you it's about Osibanjo/Tinubu in 2023. May I ask you a question. After Tinubu/Osibanjo finishes two terms in 2031 and Nigeria does not get significantly better (which some of us believe it will not) will you be inclined to Nigeria separating at that time? I am just curious if for you (and people like you) it is a matter of time, or it is never at all.

I was never a separation person but after seeing the gloom that's coming, I am beginning to support the idea. It just needs to be thoughtful and agreed by all.

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by Ugosample(m): 10:22pm On May 15, 2019
spectroscopic:
OIL, the reason for some wanting Nigerians to stick together for life, is finite. I propose that if necessary, as an incentive, a formula to share oil revenue among the separated countries for 10 years can be arrived at, with international support and agreement. This will allow every group to financially develop themselves internally during the interlude. After 10 years, oil revenue reverts to the owners of each oil well.

Thankfully, we now know that oil is not the biggest deal in NIGERIA. Funds From Nigerians living overseas surpassed Oil & Gas earnings in 2018 at $25b against $18b from Oil.

Who are the Nigerians living overseas and sending these billions back to Nigeria? Igbo, Yoruba, Edo and the rest, in that order. You see, with this fact, Igbos will do well in their own country.

Igbos (South East) should exclude non-Igbo and unwilling Igbo South South people from their desired Biafran State, and make a strong case at the UN level for their own country.

It is a win-win for each region to live separately as independent countries. Assuming it is a ''Nigerian factor'' holding the country down. Separately, the North will do well with their massive land and agricultural potential. With Lagos, the West is easily the most developed part of Nigeria and will potentially keep that going. The Igbos are the most resilient Nigerians and have great human resource and acumen to survive and potentially develop themselves. The SS has oil as well as human resources to potentially develop.

this biafra narrative again? undecided
Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by Salebo: 10:23pm On May 15, 2019
spectroscopic:
Bloomberg compares Nigeria 2014 and 2018-hard data

Nigeria is a much more important country than most people in the U.S. probably realize. With more than 190 million people, it’s Africa’s largest country by far (Ethiopia, the second-largest, has a little more than half as many). And with a fertility rate of about 5.5 children per woman, among the world’s highest, Nigeria is only going to grow in importance — by the century’s end, the country is projected to have almost 800 million people, almost twice as many as the U.S. by then.

But as things stand, this African giant is failing to create the prosperity that will sustain that future population. Its oil-dependent economy has struggled after oil prices plunged five years ago. The number of Nigerians in extreme poverty — generally defined as living on less than $1.90 a day — is estimated to be increasing by six every second.


Meanwhile, the country’s economic institutions are failing, with rising unemployment and debt levels. A recent Bloomberg Opinion editorial laid out the grim numbers:


In the long run, Nigeria needs to wean itself from dependence on oil by spending energy revenues on education, health and infrastructure. But that plan might take decades to bear fruit in the best of circumstances. In the short run, Nigeria needs jobs.
One of the best way to create those jobs would be to increase international trade. And the quickest way to boost trade would be to join the African Continental Free Trade Area, the planned free trade zone of the African Union (an organization dedicated to forging closer cooperation between African states). The AfCFTA now includes 52 countries and more than $2 trillion of economic activity. Entering that agreement, which would eliminate tariffs on 90% of goods, would open up plenty of new markets for Nigerian-made products.

But Nigeria’s manufacturers see the AfCFTA as more of a threat than an opportunity. Frank Jacobs, president of the Manufacturing Association of Nigeria, recently declared that “When they open our borders for all manner of products to come into this country, most of our industries will be out of business.” The Nigeria Labor Congress, an umbrella organization of trade unions, called the AfCFTA an “extremely dangerous and radioactive neo-liberal policy initiative.” As a result of this political opposition, Nigeria has balked at joining the agreement.
There is some justification for reluctance. Though the current accord is mainly about reducing tariffs between African member states, the AU plans to follow it up with a push for a customs union and a single currency. This latter step would be a bad idea. As Europe discovered so disastrously in the financial crisis, a currency union can exacerbate local recessions, since it makes it impossible for countries with weak economies to depreciate their currencies and become more competitive. A monetary union without fiscal integration makes sovereign-debt crises like the one in Greece much more likely and damaging. Africa should avoid making the same mistakes that Europe made. And Nigeria, especially, should be wary of a currency union — its natural resource exports tend to push up the value of its currency, the naira, making non-oil exports less competitive, meaning the country needs to push its currency down in order to restore balance.
But signing on to the AfCFTA wouldn't oblige Nigeria to adopt the later stages of the AU plan. For now, the priority should be opening the country to trade. Nigeria now is highly protectionist. Its list of prohibited or restricted imports is long, including items such as carpets, shoes, handbags and most types of furniture. The government also makes a large number of imports, such as textiles and clothing, ineligible for foreign exchange at the central bank’s official window, making it harder to import these items.

In her book “The Next Factory of the World: How Chinese Investment Is Reshaping Africa,” McKinsey & Co. researcher Irene Yuan Sun argues that these import restrictions have damaged Nigeria’s manufacturing sector. The obstacles to importing textiles have made it difficult for Nigeria to develop a competitive clothing-export industry of the type now growing in Ethiopia. And the impediments to importing labor-intensive manufactured goods like furniture, shoes and carpets, though it has shielded Nigeria’s manufacturers in the short term, has had the long-term effect of preventing them from learning how to compete in international markets.
This is a drag on growth. Labor-intensive manufacturing is still almost certainly the best and quickest path for nations to escape mass poverty. Journalist Joe Studwell argues in “How Asia Works” that exporting raises productivity and encourages the import and adoption of advanced foreign technology. And Harvard University economist Dani Rodrik argues that promoting exports helps countries to discover what they’re good at doing, allowing them to invest with confidence and to establish a stable niche in the global economy.
Maintaining an insular, protectionist stance is often tempting for a country as large as Nigeria, whose manufacturers are always clamoring for the prize of a captive domestic market. But this approach merely provides a crutch that ultimately preserves industrial weakness. Instead of hiding behind trade barriers, Nigeria should focus on aggressively promoting manufactured exports. Gaining access to nearby African markets would be one step toward doing that. Courting foreign-direct investment, depreciating the currency and pushing companies to export are other important steps. And in the long run, investments in education, health and infrastructure will make Nigeria an attractive platform for labor-intensive manufacturing. This is the giant African country’s best hope for escaping a looming tsunami of poverty.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2019-05-15/dropping-trade-barriers-could-help-nigeria-avert-soaring-poverty?fbclid=IwAR3K4xW5bWKds91jFu5DuOQtpwdnFUTNxfH5GhqE9oQn_42AdBRwK1uDuJw

These one have been stamped enemies of this present regime...

What happened to their prophecy of Atiku winning the 2019 elections

Bloody "Brown Envelopers".....
Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by Ugosample(m): 10:26pm On May 15, 2019
spectroscopic:


We know for you it's about Osibanjo/Tinubu in 2023. May I ask you a question. After Tinubu/Osibanjo finishes two terms in 2031 and Nigeria does not get significantly better (which some of us believe it will not) will you be inclined to Nigeria separating at that time? I am just curious if for you (and people like you) it is a matter of time, or never it is at all. I was never a separation person but after seeing the gloom that's coming, I am beginning to support the idea. It just needs to be thoughtful and agreed by all.

separation of this country will not change anything

Igbos won't be better off
Yoruba will not be better off

And Aboki for sure won't be either

The mindset of the typical NIGERIAN (whether igbo or Yoruba or whoever) is the albatross of the country

If you like draw 100 borders

If that does not change
it remains a shithole
Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by ChiefOlabowla(m): 10:26pm On May 15, 2019
This data or analysis is flawed, incongruent and imbalance. Wait!!! I am not a suporter of the present government. But see the 2 indexes I circled. They are indicating that the current government has a better ' Ease of doing Business environment' and better 'Economic Forum competitiveness'.

How did they come to agree with or arrive at these three conclusions when all other indexes are indicating worsened conditions under the current government??

60% of revenue goes to servicing debits - the country spends more than they it earns
Debt to GDP increased by 13%
Unemployment rate tripled from 6 to 23%
Inflation rate increased by range of 3 - 5%
Corruption index increased by 8%

Where on earth are those 3 conclusions from biko ?

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by TheLogicalMind(m): 10:27pm On May 15, 2019
spectroscopic:
OIL, the reason for some wanting Nigerians to stick together for life, is finite. I propose that if necessary, as an incentive, a formula to share oil revenue among the separated countries for 10 years can be arrived at, with international support and agreement. This will allow every group to financially develop themselves internally during the interlude. After 10 years, oil revenue reverts to the owners of each oil well.

Thankfully, we now know that oil is not the biggest deal in NIGERIA. Funds From Nigerians living overseas surpassed Oil & Gas earnings in 2018 at $25b against $18b from Oil.

Who are the Nigerians living overseas and sending these billions back to Nigeria? Igbo, Yoruba, Edo and the rest, in that order. You see, with this fact, Igbos will do well in their own country.

Igbos (South East) should exclude non-Igbo and unwilling Igbo South South people from their desired Biafran State, and make a strong case at the UN level for their own country.

It is a win-win for each region to live separately as independent countries. Assuming it is a ''Nigerian factor'' holding the country down. Separately, the North will do well with their massive land and agricultural potential. With Lagos, the West is easily the most developed part of Nigeria and will potentially keep that going. The Igbos are the most resilient Nigerians and have great human resource and acumen to survive and potentially develop themselves. The SS has oil as well as human resources to potentially develop.
Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by plaindealer: 10:29pm On May 15, 2019
spectroscopic:


We know for you it's about Osibanjo/Tinubu in 2023. May I ask you a question. After Tinubu/Osibanjo finishes two terms in 2031 and Nigeria does not get significantly better (which some of us believe it will not) will you be inclined to Nigeria separating at that time? I am just curious if for you (and people like you) it is a matter of time, or never it is at all. I was never a separation person but after seeing the gloom that's coming, I am beginning to support the idea. It just needs to be thoughtful and agreed by all.

It took you forever to get to Tinubu, this is what people like you do, they run to Tinubu in the absence of facts and sensible views.

Tinubu is not the topic.

Tinubu is not facts.
Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by spectroscopic: 10:32pm On May 15, 2019
ChiefOlabowla:
This data or analysis is flawed, incongruent and imbalance. Wait!!! I am not a suporter of the present government. But see the 2 indexes I circled. They are indicating that the current government has a better ' Ease of doing Business environment' and better 'Economic Forum competitiveness'.

How did they come to agree with these two conclusions when the other indexes are not are all indicating worsened conditions in the current government??


What are you reading?

2014 2018
147 > 145
127 > 115
> = greater than.

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by grandstar(m): 10:33pm On May 15, 2019
I was almost torn to shreds for suggesting Nigeria reduce import duties on textile fabrics to zero in order develop the garment sector. That it will create lots of jobs.

This article has just justified my position. And you have armchair economists here on NL huffing and puffing online as though they have a 2 Nobel prizes in economics.

It's a shame that most governments here are innately protectionist and doubt Nigerian joining the African trade initiative will see the light.

Funny thing is that I'm not really keen on the trade zone. I feel import duties on goods originating from outside the zone will be high. Import duties on goods from outside the zone should not be more than 8%..

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by spectroscopic: 10:36pm On May 15, 2019
plaindealer:


It took you forever to get to Tinubu, this is what people like you do, they run to Tinubu in the absence of facts and sensible views.

Tinubu is not the topic.

Tinubu is not facts.



Please stop pretending. It's the anticipated SW presidency STUPID. Now could you kindly address my question of whether after Tinubu/Osibanjo finishes two terms in 2031 and Nigeria does not get significantly better you will be inclined to Nigeria separating at that time? Or it is never at all? If never at all, may I ask why? Do you not want the SW to be able to independently charts its own course and cater for the Yoruba RACE?

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by blackslayer: 10:38pm On May 15, 2019
spectroscopic:


Unless something drastic happens (such as a big disease outbreak, stronger and more nationally spread Boko Haram and Fulani killings, etc), Nigeria will likely remain the same in 2099. The citizens are too stupid to assert themselves, coupled with pervasive tribalism and religiosity.

too docile to assert themselves.

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by plaindealer: 10:40pm On May 15, 2019
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spectroscopic:


Please stop pretending. It's the anticipated SW presidency STUPID. Now could you kindly address my question of whether after Tinubu/Osibanjo finishes two terms in 2031 and Nigeria does not get significantly better you will be inclined to Nigeria separating at that time? Or it is never at all? If never at all, may I ask why? Do you not want the SW to be able to independently charts its own course and cater for the Yoruba RACE?
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Stick to topic or start another thread to talk about Tinubu.
Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by SarkinYarki: 10:45pm On May 15, 2019
plaindealer:


1. I see nothing wrong with borrowing as long as it's used to beneficial infrastructures, programs and policies. We know such loans finished the projects past administrations borrowed money to complete, but abandoned the projects after stealing the funds.

2. We borrowed to start and complete Lagos Ibadan rail in less than 3 years, we borrowed to complete the ones they abandoned for 30 years in Warri/itakpe.

3. In less than 2 years in 2012 alone, GEJ borrowed N2 trillion, on top of the several trillions they borrowed, stole and diverted, but they left office without any completed major project.

4. GEJ borrowed to pay workers salary until his last days in office.

5. Abandoning thousands of projects all over Nigeria means loss of jobs, no not tackling electricity means we can not creat jobs or progress. These are the issues facing Nigeria, not getting excited over some meaningless numbers that doesn't address anything.

show me one single MW Buhari has added to the grid in 4 years? just one

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by emmykk(m): 10:46pm On May 15, 2019
richidinho:
I only focused on the Transparency Index, since Buhari no free me hear word

I'm pightin kworaption

BVN and TSA alone is fighting more corruption than anti-corruption of president buhari returned money
Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by uselesscountry: 10:47pm On May 15, 2019
Nigeria is good at nothing! Only pursuing yahoo boys and social media

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by Nobody: 10:48pm On May 15, 2019
This data clearly shows we are worse off and the next 4years will be worst......God bless Nigeria

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by plaindealer: 10:51pm On May 15, 2019
SarkinYarki:


show me one single MW Buhari has added to the grid in 4 years? just one



Ask GEJ/PDP, they gave that responsibility to the DISCOs when they privatized electricity and power generation or just google the meaning of privatization.

It is not by force to comment.

......you should on the other hand show us the major projects GEJ/PDP completed in 16 years

Show us the roads

Show us the completed rail projects

Show us the bridges

Show us the refineries

Show us the hospitals

Show us the water works

Show us anything meaningful Nigeria benefited from 16 years/PDP and $500 BILLION oil earnings.

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by Bbbwings: 11:02pm On May 15, 2019
nijabazaar:


plz stop, stop, stop this nonsense.

nigeria x not better now.
Its Super worse.

stop all these lies.

If Nigeria is half as goodd as you put it we wont have this Bloomberg piece nor 23% unemployment.

Stop been delusional....please
I tire for that guy..
A reputable publication says things are worse..the riff-raff says things are better.

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by anonimi: 11:08pm On May 15, 2019
phelonrays:
hmm...... An BUHARI is still planning to take us to Next Level.......

who bewitched Nigerians like this?..... undecided

..........the blind zombie followers of their blind leader


www.nairaland.com/attachments/6267651_1510641139934_jpege8dffaed6f52da138b21556e4465e5b5

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by grandstar(m): 11:12pm On May 15, 2019
plaindealer:


...but in 2014, GEJ introduced austerity measures even though we earned more oil money in the history of Nigeria under GEJ and it still did not prevent him from declaring austerity measures in 2014 when oil was $77 per barrel.

So, what was the result under GEJ? We were still in darkness, no completed project, no road, no bridges, no quality healthcare, no railway, no stable electricity, nothing. Nothing but abandoned projects all over Nigeria, now we are completing projects that they abandoned for 30-40 years.

Today, Nigeria is starting and completing rail projects in less than 3 years, what they couldn't complete in 30 years.

Useless report without context and realities.

The Intercontinental hotel in Victoria hotel is for sale at 35bn.

What will determine if you buy it? How beautiful and grandiose the hotel or the company accounts?

What will influence your decision, that it has 180 well furnished rooms or that room occupancy rates have fallen to 30%?

What will influence your decision, that it has parking space for 1,000 cars or that it can't service it's debt of N20bn?

I trust that it's the accounts you'll pay more attention to If you were illiterate, what will influence your decision, probably what you can see

Economist focus more on "accounts" than what they see on the outside. Nice fancy projects maybe built on mountains of unpayable debt are secondary to them. What they see while seating down the armchair economist can't see standing on the highest mountain

For instance, the statistics show that under Buhari ,Debt levels have increased greatly. It has shot through the roof. As the figures shows, it was 12% in 2014 but 25% of GDP by 2018.

Debt service to revenues has lept from 27% of GDP in 2014 to 60% of GDP in 2018. That means that 60% of the budget is used to service debt! If a person spends 60% of his income on servicing debt, will you not be worried for the person? How much more for the country and it's rising

Jonathan allowed endemic corruption under his watch. There was a lot of fiscal recklessness under him

However his economic policies were much sounder than those of Bubari If Buhari had simply maintained those policies and even improved on them and fought corruption, better.

He instead introduced economic policies such as pegging of the Naira to the dollar which was a recipe for financial ruin. I wrote off this Government when it did that.

Buhari is a principled man no doubt but he scores an F9 in economics. Worse, he is still determined to impose economic hubris on the country.

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by SarkinYarki: 11:24pm On May 15, 2019
plaindealer:




Ask GEJ/PDP, they gave that responsibility to the DISCOs when they privatized electricity and power generation or just google the meaning of privatization.

It is not by force to comment.

......you should on the other hand show us the major projects GEJ/PDP completed in 16 years

Show us the roads

Show us the completed rail projects

Show us the bridges

Show us the refineries

Show us the hospitals

Show us the water works

Show us anything meaningful Nigeria benefited from 16 years/PDP and $500 BILLION oil earnings.

ButerflylE0? I thought you have been kidnapped ? I can smell you from a mile away

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Re: Bloomberg Compares Nigeria 2014 And 2018-hard Data by grandstar(m): 11:34pm On May 15, 2019
ChiefOlabowla:
This data or analysis is flawed, incongruent and imbalance. Wait!!! I am not a suporter of the present government. But see the 2 indexes I circled. They are indicating that the current government has a better ' Ease of doing Business environment' and better 'Economic Forum competitiveness'.

How did they come to agree with or arrive at these three conclusions when all other indexes are indicating worsened conditions under the current government??

60% of revenue goes to servicing debits - the country spends more than they it earns
Debt to GDP increased by 13%
Unemployment rate tripled from 6 to 23%
Inflation rate increased by range of 3 - 5%
Corruption index increased by 8%

Where on earth are those 3 conclusions from biko ?

I'm sure these stats are accurate.

Improvement in the Ease of Doing Business is too little or inconsequential to warrant all this fretting my friend! Get a grip of yourself! grin Adeosun put a lot of effort into the improving the Ease of Doing Business

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