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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by badmus306(m): 5:42pm On May 15, 2019
themaestro08:
Great job guys! ..... I have been a silent reader for quite a long time, I just feel I should appreciate the good work you guys are doing, particularly, hadampson, elder,phlift e.t.c. that said, I think people are laying too much emphasis on STEM,I know its in demand, but if its not your thing or you are not that good in it then just go for your preferred choice, as I can confidently tell you whatever you study in germany you will have something decent doing at the end of the day, there are lots of decent courses with huge potentials to land you pretty good jobs in DE.....

Tips to succeeding in DE

-have a good knowledge of Deutsche
-posses decent employable skills

And the sky could just be your starting point.

Peace.
Which city are you in DE bro?

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Goztino(m): 5:44pm On May 15, 2019
willy2000:


High demanding IT skills depend on which area, web dev, software dev, mobile, dev, DevOps(hottest kid on the block), AI(this is very broad), data science...........and so on.

But with Web Dev, you can't go wrong. (learn HTML, CSS, Javascript, Angular, React, ) for frontend. (Java, Php, Nodejs) for backend.

You can start with HTML CSS, then move to Javascript, and then React before Angular for frontend development.
For backend, I would say learn JAVAEE with ( Spring/Hibernate) and Nodejs. But if you are already proficient in Javascript, then perfect your backend skills with Nodejs and learn other frameworks to it.
All in all, programming is not all about what language you are proficient in, it is about how to analyse and solve problems. Your architecture and logic implementations are what makes you a good developer. This is where a good knowledge of data structures and algorithm come into play.

See just stay focus and forget all this IT hype, learn German and follow your passion. If you jump ship because people are saying so,hmm. The grass is not always green on the other side.

When I say I want IT knowledge know that something prompted me to say that (I no dey like carry last for anything I dey do).
Someone mentioned ComptiaA+ and N+ Certifications and from my little research, I found out that It’s about teaching you to fix simple computers software and hardware issues. CompTIA A+ is about teaching you enough knowledge to get an entry-level job or intern in the IT field. Something like a help desk is what to expect after the CompTIA A+.

Do you know about it?
willy2000
pompido

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Hadampson(m): 5:45pm On May 15, 2019
themaestro08:
Great job guys! ..... I have been a silent reader for quite a long time, I just feel I should appreciate the good work you guys are doing, particularly, hadampson, elder,phlift e.t.c. that said, I think people are laying too much emphasis on STEM,I know its in demand, but if its not your thing or you are not that good in it then just go for your preferred choice, as I can confidently tell you whatever you study in germany you will have something decent doing at the end of the day, there are lots of decent courses with huge potentials to land you pretty good jobs in DE.....

Tips to succeeding in DE

-have a good knowledge of Deutsche
-posses decent employable skills

And the sky could just be your starting point.


Peace.


You have said it all chef smiley
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Hadampson(m): 5:48pm On May 15, 2019
From pompido

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go to www.seatguru.com

select "browse airlines"

choose your carrier. e.g "Emirates"

Select "Planes and seat maps"

Select the type of plane listed on your booking website for the trip and an image of the plane will show up.

you can use this to determine which seat numbers to check with your travel agent to try and book you on.

Other information are available on the website for your digestion.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Basalt(m): 5:51pm On May 15, 2019
dobeespen:
LOL. Na here we dey sha...


Meaning?
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Basalt(m): 5:58pm On May 15, 2019
willy2000:


Bro, I would advise you to be humble, failing a course in Germany doesn't mean you are unserious. Wait till you come, then you see how different and intense it is to study here. Besides, overconfidence is a dangerous trait to bring over here. Once you fail an exam, it is difficult to pass it the second time without sacrificing something in your life, and if you fail the second time, the pressure of losing your student status will make you lose concentration when studying for the third trial.

Saying you have never failed an exam b4 ....hm no comment. I just hope you don't fail any when you get here.


grin cheesy cheesy
Well, I wont blame you much. You no sabi who you dey follow talk shaa.
But please, check my previous posts, I never said that anyone who failed any course in Germany is unserious. I simply said that anyone who failed one particular course three times is not only unserious but highly incompetent. Lets stop painting words here. if you fail a course once, its understandable but failing three good times is the height of incompetence and unseriousness. Its not overconfidence, its simple fact and you know it
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by dobeespen: 6:01pm On May 15, 2019
Lemme give my 2 cents worth of pointers. I know most people are all caught with the "Germany is a STEM country and you have to study STEM to have a good chance of staying". While that is true, it is NOT the whole truth. BWL (Business and Economic) programs are just as useful and might I add very popular here as well, and provided you plan well, you will succeed in this country even if you don't have a STEM degree. And if you feel like you must study IT sha, a lot of business courses these days have an IT component; for example "Management and Technology", "International Business and Infomatics", things like that.

For me however, the on and off love story I've had with IT has come to an end. I currently study Management and Technology at TUM where the technology part is ONLY 30 percent, but even the 30 percent no be here oh. There are certain classes I have to pass at the end of my second semester which I failed after writing one class exam once and the other twice. So I am transferring next semester to a full international Business program and leaving the IT part biko. Every mallam with im kettle.

Work wise, I will say I have done well for myself too. I got a job at Primark and did it for 3 months. In my second month, I started searching for werkstudent jobs, knowing that I was only in my first semester and my knowledge of German is basic. I luckily landed a job at a small market research firm and quickly left Primark. We lost a major client at the early part of this year and my firm was forced to do budget cuts, and so that prompted me to start searching again. Started searching in March and didn't get called for an interview till late April. Thankfully got the job and I start at Allianz Munich next month working in the HR department.

This German waka go teach you humility oh. I didn't really have any issues with getting admission but the amount of job rejections I've gotten ehn (Like Pompido rightly mentioned), you just need patience and humility. smiley

Don't LET ANYONE tell you you cannot get werkstudent because your level of German is low, or that you have to study STEM to succeed in germany. Don't get me wrong it's harder to find jobs, but it is definitely possible, and in my field too.

One thing that I haven't done and would advise everyone to do is to learn German. I always tell myself I'll start next semester and then next semester comes and well... life happens LOL. I will get around to it later sha cause my new course makes it mandatory to be proficient at B2 level before graduating so mans has no choice. Personal development is very important as well, so if you're not the STEM type, try to take online courses in Excel, SAP, Project Management and other business intelligence courses. If possible, get a certification as well.

Anyway for Fabcol and anyone else interested, TL;DR: Stem isn't the only path to securing long-term stay in Germany.



Fabcol:
Boss pompido for someone coming to study economics any advise on skills or tools to get familiar with

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Hadampson(m): 6:01pm On May 15, 2019
From Eke40seven

You failed to add that when you go to the shopping mall, you stand there for hours praying you don't buy urine in place of ororo, or liquid detergent thinking its body soap.... And for the love of God, you hardly come by a product with English translations. Yeah! I understand thses things limits you.

You miss a lot of opportunities because of the language, i could have gotten an accommodation for free (in place of some little services) but couldn't get it because of the language barrier, ( a room in a flatshare here in nothing less than 400-500 euros by the way if you are lucky) landlords are choosy based on langauge, etc

Yeah! Staying in Munich can save you a lot of stress, its what they call "multi kulti" they almost all understand and speak English although they will always tell you "Nein/ja, ein bisschien" but same cannot be said of the outskirts, in fact their bavarian accents are so hard, it break stones. Although people here are EXTREMELY nice and helpful.
I have been to Bremen, Hamburg, Leipzig, Berlin, Oldenburg, Bamberg, Hannover, etc all recently, may be in some i spent only a few hours, and i can fully relate what victz and crowns2 are saying.

For prospective applicants, please learn as much as you can, you don't know where you might find yourself, even in places where English is widely spoken, its absolutely important you can speak or understand what is being spoken.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Hadampson(m): 6:13pm On May 15, 2019
From Number13

It's been a long time! People coming to Germany from Nigeria: study, study, and study, and prepared to study, study, and study when you get here! I now feel like I cheated myself into TUM. I used to take getting an A (above 70% in the university where I did my bachelor's in Nigeria) as being equivalent to the German 1.0. I didn't know one needed to be above about the 95th percentile to have a 1.0.

The reality of the matter dawned on me when I saw the result of my German as a Foreign Language A1.1+1.2 midsemester test. The teacher briefly returned the marked scripts to us so that we could make sure there was no mistake in the grading. I had 54.25 points out of a possible 68 -- just below 80%. I thought it was quite good until I saw the grade: 2.7! That many exchange students in my class still doing their bachelors' had 1.0s and 1 point somethings didn't help matters. I could make excuses that some of them might have studied German before, but I don't know that... The fact remains it was a 'below average score' (if we assume 2.5 to be average).

Heck, bachelor's grades better than 2.5 on the average was the requirement to get invited for the interview phase of my present programme in first place! I could still say, well, my grade in German doesn't affect my overall grade in my current programme, but... let me just say, I can't really tell until it's time for the exams, which is drawing nearer everyday, but here, even in the regular programme-related courses that I'm taking, I'm maybe an average student at best. In Nigeria, I used to be very, very good. So, my advise to those intending to come to Germany remains: study, study.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Basalt(m): 6:19pm On May 15, 2019
dobeespen:
Lemme give my 2 cents worth of pointers. I know most people are all caught with the "Germany is a STEM country and you have to study STEM to have a good chance of staying". While that is true, it is NOT the whole truth. BWL (Business and Economic) programs are just as useful and might I add very popular here as well, and provided you plan well, you will succeed in this country even if you don't have a STEM degree. And if you feel like you must study IT sha, a lot of business courses these days have an IT component; for example "Management and Technology", "International Business and Infomatics", things like that.

For me however, the on and off love story I've had with IT has come to an end. I currently study Management and Technology at TUM where the technology part is ONLY 30 percent, but even the 30 percent no be here oh. There are certain classes I have to pass at the end of my second semester which I failed after writing one class exam once and the other twice. So I am transferring next semester to a full international Business program and leaving the IT part biko. Every mallam with im kettle.

Work wise, I will say I have done well for myself too. I got a job at Primark and did it for 3 months. In my second month, I started searching for werkstudent jobs, knowing that I was only in my first semester and my knowledge of German is basic. I luckily landed a job at a small market research firm and quickly left Primark. We lost a major client at the early part of this year and my firm was forced to do budget cuts, and so that prompted me to start searching again. Started searching in March and didn't get called for an interview till late April. Thankfully got the job and I start at Allianz Munich next month working in the HR department.

This German waka go teach you humility oh. I didn't really have any issues with getting admission but the amount of job rejections I've gotten ehn (Like Pompido rightly mentioned), you just need patience and humility. smiley

Don't LET ANYONE tell you you cannot get werkstudent because your level of German is low, or that you have to study STEM to succeed in germany. Don't get me wrong it's harder to find jobs, but it is definitely possible, and in my field too.

One thing that I haven't done and would advise everyone to do is to learn German. I always tell myself I'll start next semester and then next semester comes and well... life happens LOL. I will get around to it later sha cause my new course makes it mandatory to be proficient at B2 level before graduating so mans has no choice. Personal development is very important as well, so if you're not the STEM type, try to take online courses in Excel, SAP, Project Management and other business intelligence courses. If possible, get a certification as well.

Anyway for Fabcol and anyone else interested, TL;DR: Stem isn't the only path to securing long-term stay in Germany.




Nice one sharing your experience. Das ist gut
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Hadampson(m): 6:31pm On May 15, 2019
sassy92:
Please who has info about OVGU and magdeburg city?



my man magdeburg is cool...The people are friendly unlike what i heard but atimes the racism group springs up but they have anti racism groups that counter them always...The course work is the similar as what i did in FUTO.. i thought FUTO was stressing me, I neva knew they were training me for the future...the only difference here is that they haVe a different symbol in the normal chemical equations which we know in nigeria, so when u study it, u will adjust.. the only thing here is that you have so many things to read and cram too.. u will read and also cram cos they know u cant finish the questions within 2 hours, so speed ,matters ..imagine deriving and applying hundreds of equations similar to Arrhenius equations, runge kutta 4th order and raoults law and doing like 4 iterations in 2 hours? is it beans? so answer the questions .....is it easier in 9ja?, the language is a barrier everywhere in terms of job.

magdeburg is the capital city so most people speak english unlike my friend kelvinpalm wey dey complain about his city say if u no sabi speak german ..u r dead..

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Hadampson(m): 6:45pm On May 15, 2019
sassy92:
Please who has info about OVGU and magdeburg city?

Contact benycent for more information about the city. He did his masters degree in magdeburg

Viel Glück

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by willy2000(m): 6:48pm On May 15, 2019
Basalt:


grin cheesy cheesy
Well, I wont blame you much. You no sabi who you dey follow talk shaa.
But please, check my previous posts, I never said that anyone who failed any course in Germany is unserious. I simply said that anyone who failed one particular course three times is not only unserious but highly incompetent. Lets stop painting words here. if you fail a course once, its understandable but failing three good times is the height of incompetence and unseriousness. Its not overconfidence, its simple fact and you know it

I know say you be first class efico, no problem.
But you should also know that 70% is an A in Nigeria but here you need above 95% to get 1.0.
Wish you all the best anyway.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by themaestro08(m): 7:32pm On May 15, 2019
badmus306:

Which city are you in DE bro?
Am in Nigeria but heavily interested in German stuffs

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by themaestro08(m): 7:34pm On May 15, 2019
Hadampson:


said it all chef smiley
you are doing a nice job here

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by heybaby12(f): 7:57pm On May 15, 2019
Basalt:
But I really find it hard to imagine how someone will fail one course three times.
I mean, can someone explain to me because it's too difficult for me to figure out.

How can you write course one time, fail.
Write another time, and fail.
Write on the third time and fail.

For me, it means you are not competent for that course and should be immediately dismissed not only from the department but also have your student visa revoked for that particular course of interest

Cool down , don't be in a rush to talk.
Pressure and an Empty account has never been a good combo.
There are many factors that can affect that over here.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by chiboy1116: 8:45pm On May 15, 2019
Hadampson:
Well, i can only say that's my nature. To help my people in a little way that i can

We NIGERIANS need cooperation just like Indians in diaspora. You hardly see any Indian who complain in any country in the world. They usually help themselves to get jobs and other opportunities

So i want Nigerians to emulate them. Please all the winter hopefuls, don't forget to update this thread when you finally enter DE. PLEASE

We should always help ourselves no matter what, even though i don't have substantial amount of money for the BA, it gives me joy to sought for information for my fellow NIGERIANS who are going to DE.

I pray we all succeed in DE


@emboldened, thanks alot brother. May God bless you abundantly. As for the option, whichever way, am okay sir.... Hadampson@gmail.com

@second emboldened That #1000 is even more than enough for me cos na #500 i dey use to subscribe and e go last me for two weeks
boss this one wey bosses de say make we run from kleve , how we go do ? Gottingen and kleve are my only options for now .

Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by DwayneGy(m): 9:28pm On May 15, 2019
Basalt:
But I really find it hard to imagine how someone will fail one course three times.
I mean, can someone explain to me because it's too difficult for me to figure out.

How can you write course one time, fail.
Write another time, and fail.
Write on the third time and fail.

For me, it means you are not competent for that course and should be immediately dismissed not only from the department but also have your student visa revoked for that particular course of interest
Are you in Germany already? If you’re not, just keep quiet and learn. It’s not as easy as you think. Y’all think it’s a safe heaven, you know nothing.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Hadampson(m): 10:13pm On May 15, 2019
chiboy1116:
boss this one wey bosses de say make we run from kleve , how we go do ? Gottingen and kleve are my only options for now .


Göttingen is okay. Work no too dey kleve according to the previous posts on this thread.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Basalt(m): 2:26am On May 16, 2019
DwayneGy:

Are you in Germany already? If you’re not, just keep quiet and learn. It’s not as easy as you think. Y’all think it’s a safe heaven, you know nothing.
Lol
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Basalt(m): 2:29am On May 16, 2019
willy2000:


I know say you be first class efico, no problem.
But you should also know that 70% is an A in Nigeria but here you need above 95% to get 1.0.
Wish you all the best anyway.

shocked
That's too high na.
What of B, C and D scores?
What's the minimum score needed for a pass?
40 right?
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by NONNYG: 3:25am On May 16, 2019
Basalt:
But I really find it hard to imagine how someone will fail one course three times.
I mean, can someone explain to me because it's too difficult for me to figure out.

How can you write course one time, fail.
Write another time, and fail.
Write on the third time and fail.

For me, it means you are not competent for that course and should be immediately dismissed not only from the department but also have your student visa revoked for that particular course of interest

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by heybaby12(f): 6:23am On May 16, 2019
Basalt:


shocked
That's too high na.
What of B, C and D scores?
What's the minimum score needed for a pass?
40 right?

50 is what you need to pass. Which is 4.0
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Basalt(m): 6:33am On May 16, 2019
heybaby12:


50 is what you need to pass. Which is 4.0

Alright. In Nigeria, some lecturers are sadists and unnecessarily marks people down to feel like a demigod.
Hope there is no sadist lecturer in Deutschland?
What's the secret of scoring high in German exams, is it the same method of reading a notebook or textbook and writing down what you have understood?, if that is the case, then I have absolutely no problem because I am used to such method
I love A (1.0) lining up in my result sheet like chains, I hate anything average score
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Fabcol(m): 6:50am On May 16, 2019
Thanks a lot boss
dobeespen:

One thing that I haven't done and would advise everyone to do is to learn German. I always tell myself I'll start next semester and then next semester comes and well... life happens LOL. I will get around to it later sha cause my new course makes it mandatory to be proficient at B2 level before graduating so mans has no choice. Personal development is very important as well, so if you're not the STEM type, try to take online courses in Excel, SAP, Project Management and other business intelligence courses. If possible, get a certification as well.

Anyway for Fabcol and anyone else interested, TL;DR: Stem isn't the only path to securing long-term stay in Germany.



Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Fabcol(m): 7:00am On May 16, 2019
I would Also what to know how these cities are in terms of student jobs and which is preferable
Siegen
Paderborn
Bayreuth

Cc
dobeespen , willy2000 , pompido , themaestro08 and any other who have an idea or is in any of the city, please.
Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Adeniyii2017: 7:07am On May 16, 2019
Basalt:


Alright. In Nigeria, some lecturers are sadists and unnecessarily marks people down to feel like a demigod.
Hope there is no sadist lecturer in Deutschland?
What's the secret of scoring high in German exams, is it the same method of reading a notebook or textbook and writing down what you have understood?, if that is the case, then I have absolutely no problem because I am used to such method
I love A (1.0) lining up in my result sheet like chains, I hate anything average score

Guy... how far you now??
You are derailing this thread. You have every right to your opinion, just keep it to yourself. All courses are not the same, and it’s not the same school. If I may ask:
What course did you study?? Geology I guess.
You are just generalizing and not making any reasonable sense. These people you are talking to are already in Germany and have first hand experience. You don’t even know their course of study or the kind of school they are currently in.
Don’t worry, when you get there, go make your A parallel in your geology.
Please, you don’t have to reply this guy.. he’ll understand last last, if he gets there. This is my first post on here, just been observing because I believe I can’t give real info yet until I get there this winter. Please don’t stop giving out them info, people like me really appreciate. Thank you.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Basalt(m): 7:48am On May 16, 2019
Adeniyii2017:


Guy... how far you now??
You are derailing this thread. You have every right to your opinion, just keep it to yourself. All courses are not the same, and it’s not the same school. If I may ask:
What course did you study?? Geology I guess.
You are just generalizing and not making any reasonable sense. These people you are talking to are already in Germany and have first hand experience. You don’t even know their course of study or the kind of school they are currently in.
Don’t worry, when you get there, go make your A parallel in your geology.
Please, you don’t have to reply this guy.. he’ll understand last last, if he gets there. This is my first post on here, just been observing because I believe I can’t give real info yet until I get there this winter. Please don’t stop giving out them info, people like me really appreciate. Thank you.

Lol, if this is your first post then you seriously have issue, sorry to say that

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Adeniyii2017: 7:53am On May 16, 2019
Like I said good people.. Kindly ignore him!!

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Glowing1: 8:34am On May 16, 2019
Pls everyone ignore Basalt n pls don't respond to any of his shit talk.. That guy has issues. He need to deal with that first. It's people like this that claim to be Efiko, but in reality they know nothing.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 8:39am On May 16, 2019
Basalt:
But I really find it hard to imagine how someone will fail one course three times.
I mean, can someone explain to me because it's too difficult for me to figure out.

How can you write course one time, fail.
Write another time, and fail.
Write on the third time and fail.

For me, it means you are not competent for that course and should be immediately dismissed not only from the department but also have your student visa revoked for that particular course of interest

Brother, calm down it is not as easy as you think. Working and studying is not easy, especially when the country is not your own country.
I have a friend in Germany, I could remember he was given an assignment to summarise a book of 500+ pages. He called me on whatsapp to help him summarise 3 chapters (about 150 pages) on the last day of submission. I had to help him out, because if he doesn't do it, he would have lost some marks. Thank God we both finished the assignment. I am not saying this because I helped him, I am just telling you, it is not that rosy in that country.

I wish you the best.

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Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by Basalt(m): 9:05am On May 16, 2019
Glowing1:
Pls everyone ignore Basalt n pls don't respond to any of his shit talk.. That guy has issues. He need to deal with that first. It's people like this that claim to be Efiko, but in reality they know nothing.

grin cheesy

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