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| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by charles2468(m): 9:11am On May 16, 2019 |
2piK:God bless u, for this good write up of urs, please I too have great decision to make now and it's all about moving to abroad, I have started d process but as a human fear of unknown do grip me, please kindly reply my PM as I have sent you a pm, let me have a talk with you, thanks |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by beatmonster(m): 3:28pm On May 16, 2019 |
lyricalz:According to your post, there is wide spread of poverty in Nigeria. Don't you think it is too risky to invest in a poor market? who will patronize the business? |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Skinbrownnie: 3:34pm On May 16, 2019 |
Why not try and get a lecturer´s job in the UK or Canada? It is important that you study a course that is maketable. Alternatively, you can try marrying an American and moving to the US. You would definitely flourish there if you work hard. You are still young. Go on facebook or visit some of our Nigerians Churches there you should be able to find somone or visit someof the American churches you should be able to find someone you like but you have to act now becuase it takes time to find someone and to try to date them. You have age on your side, so makle the move. If you tell your folks you are trying America, I am sure they would give you the space to do what you need to do. Nigerians are doing great things there and you can apply to do your Ph.D there. I wish you well. I joined this forum specifically to give you the little advice I could because I was not satisfied with the advice given thus far by others. |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Jokkarm2: 5:34pm On May 16, 2019 |
OGA DON'T EVEN THINK OF COMING BACK TO NIGERIA, ELSE YOU WILL BE IN A STATE OF POOR, FRUSTRATED AND DEPRESSED. TELL YOUR WIFE TO BE TO CARRY HER UK LEVEL COME MEET YOU IN GERMANY. THIS PLACE IS A ROAD TO SUICIDE AND DIE YOUNG. I AM MANAGING 70K JOB, NOT EASY EVEN WITH THE PAY. NIGERIA IS NOT GUARANTEED TO YOUR PHD CERT. |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by AngelicBeing: 6:40pm On May 16, 2019 |
Jokkarm2:Hahaha, your post cracked me up, Lol at Nigeria is the road to suicide and die young, chai ![]() |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by beatmonster(m): 7:11pm On May 16, 2019 |
AngelicBeing:The country is sinking! |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by AngelicBeing: 7:43pm On May 16, 2019*. Modified: 8:26pm On May 16, 2019 |
beatmonster:But the association of patriotic citizens / zombies will disagree with you, watch out, they will soon come for your head with AK 47, ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons for saying the truth about Nigeria, instead of them to head to Abuja to go stone the wicked politicians that has crippled the country, they will rather attack people who are saying things the way they are. Meanwhile I am sitting on Mount Everest with my plate of fresh fish pepper soup, Nkwobi and a bottle of Hennessey sipping my liquor while I watch the Patriotic citizens of Nigeria arrive to debunk your post ![]()
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| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Honor10: 12:04am On May 17, 2019 |
darkelf:pls, do u know what work ur friend is doing there, is he practicing as a pharmacist? |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by CanadianNaija: 1:20pm On May 17, 2019*. Modified: 6:10am On May 18, 2019 |
Op do you speak their language? If no, how do you intend to fully integrate in a non English speaking country, if you don’t speak the language of communication there? You see people travel abroad to non English speaking countries and make no effort to learn the language, how then do you expect to integrate properly? Take whatever decision you want, but let it be well thought out. The good thing is that you’re still young, but do not think that it will be easy anywhere or have high expectations because you have a masters...lots of people have masters degrees now, so that’s not an advantage. My advice to anyone going (legally) to a non-English speaking country is to try and give yourself 1 year to learn their language, I have seen people do this and their lives changed for the better. There are language courses to aid integration, I know this is available at schools in that Germany because my cousin enrolled in one, and it helped to open doors for him. His wife too enrolled when she was brought over, and she is almost done with hers. The menial jobs you’re complaining about is what’s making you bread winner for your family, if you decide to move let it be a well thought out decision. |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by proeast(m): 1:26pm On May 17, 2019 |
Jokkarm2:Well, I once had the opportunity to move to the US but I passed it off to my brother, and he is there right now with my sister. Nigeria may be terrible to most people but don't get it twisted, some people are still making exploits here. However, it all depends on one's peculiar situation. Nevertheless, 70K salary is poor considering inflationary pressure on the naira. I earn on average, 5x that amount as a single guy living in a not so expensive city yet I struggle to keep expenses on the low in order to make savings. Anyone earning 70K while living in cities like Lagos, Abuja or P.Harcourt would find it difficult getting by and it would be worse if they have families that depend on them. To the Op, you can only return as an enterprenuer with a good startup idea and funds to back it up, but DON'T EVER RETURN TO NIGERIA TO LOOK FOR JOB BECAUSE THEY ARE VIRTUALLY NON EXISTENT!! |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Nobody: 2:21pm On May 17, 2019 |
You are like john snow. YOU KNOW NOTHING justwise: |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by justwise(mod): 3:42pm On May 17, 2019 |
tundeloveday:I take that as a compliment |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by lyricalz: 7:46pm On May 17, 2019 |
beatmonster:The ever growing population created the market. If you do your research well, you can tap on that. |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Unlimited22: 7:50pm On May 17, 2019 |
2piK:I wish I could like and share this more than once. |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Demainman1: 8:10am On May 18, 2019 |
Copied: Money is NOT on the top ten on the list of reasons why I left Nigeria. I'm 100% sure that if I were in Nigeria since 2012, I would have made more than ten times the money I have made since 2012. Let me tell you some of the reasons I left Nigeria. 1. Health: each time I want to discuss this, I get extremely emotional. My father was diabetic for many years. Over the past three years till my father died in February, my family was spending an average of HALF A MILLION NAIRA MONTHLY on my father's hospital visits and medications, this doesn’t include the over N5million we spent on his eyes surgeries to save his sight. My father's health condition is what they call "Big man sickness". Because my Dad lived with the condition post diagnosis for about two decades. It was VERY EXPENSIVE to manage his health. How many Nigerian households earn upto N500k monthly talk less of spending that on the health of just one family member? If my Dad were British or Canadian who had worked in civil service (Like he did in Nigeria) for 35-years and retired, his healthcare would have been ABSOLUTELY FREE and sorted out by the government. He wouldn't have had to spend his gratuity on managing his health and staying alive. Listen! My siblings and their families are British. No matter what sickness they get afflicted with (I hope NOT), they will NEVER have to resort to begging the public to raise funds for them. They are citizens and tax payers of a country that sees healthcare as a fundamental right and provides it free of charge for the citizens and some residents. Here in Canada, my health insurance covers me upto a maximum of FIVE MILLION DOLLARS a year. By next year, I'd be fully covered by the provincial free healthcare, and will not need private health insurance anymore. But YOU as a Nigerian in Nigeria is just one sickness away from becoming a social media beggar and losing your dignity trying to beg for money to save your life because your government cannot even do as little as subsidize healthcare. Any small growth in your legs, you start a fundraising to raise millions so that you can run to India to save your life. Not only are you short of money, you don't even trust the facilities and your healthcare professionals to be able to save you in your country even though you are able to successfully beg for the full amount you want. You have to go to India. While going home for my Dad's burial, my siblings and I had to go home with our own medications because a lot of the ones you have in Nigeria are adulterated and almost as good as chalks. I had to take my own paracetamol and tylenol to Nigeria (for menstrual cramps) because the Nigerian made paracetamol doesn't work for me. One of the reasons my Dad's medication was that expensive was because we had to order them from the UK. Not because they were not available in Nigeria, but because the ones in Nigeria were not working. If I start feeling too sick in Canada or the UK, I can dial 911 or 999, and qualified healthcare professionals will come and attend to me. You don't have Emergency healthcare dials and services in Nigeria. Call an ambulance and they might charge you N100k or more to come. That's if you are lucky enough to reach them. 2. Security: coming home this period refreshed my memory on the level of insecurity in Nigeria. In my house in Canada, I SELDOM lock my front door or room door at night before I go to bed. I leave my front door unlocked and leave my house and come back to meet everything still in tact. Sometimes, I lock, but that might be just because I don't want someone or a friend bumping into me, or maybe because I'm trying to avoid seeing someone. It's seldom because I think someone will come and rob, rape and maybe kill me. But we have a huge dog in my family home in Nigeria. Every night when the dog starts barking, we wake up and become scared because there might be a robbery going on somewhere close, or some people of the underworld are roaming the streets. This is despite all the multiple iron doors we've locked and locked. I couldn't go to all the places I wanted to go to because my family members were scared for my life. The life of an average Nigerian seems worth less than the life of a fatted Nigerian cow. If I'm in danger in Canada, I've got 911 and the police would come and do their best to rescue me. In Nigeria, no emergency police dial. If you even manage to get to the police, they will ask you to bribe them and fuel their cars before they will consider whether or not they can help you. 3. Education: where do we start from on this one? Am I supposed to write another epistle trying to tell you how decayed the educational system in Nigeria is? Are we going to start from malpractice or the lack of infrastructure or some of the English teachers that can't make a single grammatically correct sentence in English? Please, where do we start from? You lots went through the system. So, you should know this more than I do. 4. Freedom: I can exercise my fundamental rights without being harrassed. No police officer will come into a club and arrest all the females there and ask them to choose between monetary bribe and rape as a bail price. 5. Having 24-hours power supply and a few other basics are "luxuries" enjoyed only by the very few rich Nigerians. Maybe just the top 5%. 6. Standard of living: working fulltime while earning a minimum wage in the UK and Canada will enable you to be able to COMFORTABLY afford the basics... maybe not luxury. Basics like a decent accommodation, good food, good clothes, and to be able to run a small car. In Nigeria, they recently increased your minimum wage from N18k to N30k; which is still barely enough to make your hair and buy underwear and sanitary pads for the month. I heard (didn't confirm) that Nigeria was declared the poverty headquarters of the world. You see, I could go on and on, but let me stop here. It's ok if you want to stay in Nigeria and remain there, but you can do that without trying too hard to come up with some daft arguments. And if you are a Nigerian earning less than N2million per month, I need you to remind yourself that you are just a sickness away from becoming a beggar! Let that sink in! The country is currently a BIG MESS! It's very ok for people to want better for themselves and seek greener pastures elsewhere. And if you don't want to leave, STAY! Let those who want to leave leave. You people keep asking "If we all run away who will repair the country?" YOU of course. You who is still there will help us repair it. Please stay there and help us fix it. We are begging you. The irony of this whole thing is that most of these so-called patriotic Nigerians had all their children in the US. I once met a woman on Facebook arguing against people leaving Nigeria to seek citizenship elsewhere. When I engaged her in an argument and dug deeper, I realized that she had ALL her four children in the US. They are US citizens. She paid millions to make sure her children are US citizens, but she was on Facebook advocating for other Nigerians not to go abroad for citizenship. You don't need to know how I finished with her that day. Another set of people are those who either can’t afford the immigration process, or those who have applied to leave the country several times but have been denied Visas, and those who do not meet the requirements for immigration as skilled workers. They become patriotic after they have visited almost all the embassies in Lagos and Abuja and seen that there is no hope, and that the destinies of them and their children and children's children are ingrained in Nigeria. More like "since I can't have it, let me badmouth it." My heartfelt sympathies are with these ones. You Nigerian citizens in Nigeria have only Nigeria as an option. Nigerian citizens with other citizenships have Nigeria and other options. I can get up at almost any time and go to Nigeria or Canada. But you can't just wake up and come to Canada. You enjoy the benefits of being Nigerians. Nigerians with dual citizenship enjoy the benefits of being Nigerians and being citizens of other countries. I know this is quite petty, but allow me to just rub this in. Stay in Nigeria if you want. But biko, spare us those lame arguments. *-* When I read all those "Will you travel abroad if you get N2million as salary", I laugh. Who ever told you people that it's all about money? The fact that most thieves and some of the politicians stealing from you and most Nigerian Billionaires and richest send their children abroad should be enough to tell you that people don't just travel abroad for money. It's way more than that. There's more to life than just money. My parents sent us their children out of Nigeria because of the poor education, insecurity and poor healthcare in Nigeria. It was NOT so that we will go and make money for them. - Nkechi Bianze |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by AngelicBeing: 8:23am On May 18, 2019 |
Demainman1:100 trillion likes, that has always been my position, succinctly put and spot on, even Buhari their so called messiah and his family goes to UK for medical attention, UK government is the one currently keeping Buhari alive via her topnotch medical facilities, Aso Rock clinic, national hospital Abuja and several clinics in Nigeria are slaughter slab, Buhari doesn't even trust them, he rather prefers to be treated in England, and the same applies to several politicians in Nigeria, patriotism my foot, nonsense ![]() |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Ugosample(m): 8:33am On May 18, 2019 |
bencliff2017:to be frank with you They don't (most of them) And I am not a "small pikin" if it's very difficult for young people to get jobs TODAY and many have slipped iny9 despondency how do you think it will be for the small ones who are too too many coming (the foolish country breed like rats btw, when they have no plan for the unfortunate kids) quite frankly the future id quite bleak except a wonderful miracle happens |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by AngelicBeing: 8:51am On May 18, 2019 |
Ugosample:Lol at your last sentence, miracles doesn't develop nor play any role in turning the affairs of any nation, Malaysia, the GCC countries, Singapore, Western Europe, Oceania, North America didn’t develop via miracles but rather they all had different visions / road map from where they were in the past to where they currently are at the moment, once you have visionary leaders at the helm of affairs in any nation, that nation will develop very fast, prayers, fasting, Hajj, tithes, offerings, zakat, sleeping in Jerusalem, Vatican or Mecca doesn't develop any nation, God cannot be mocked with frivolous religious pieties void of critical thinking. China is almost classified as an Atheist Nation but almost all the electronics, plastic chairs, microphones used in different religious places in Nigeria is from China a supposedly Atheist Nation, miracles will never develop any nation, as long as Nigeria is waiting for miracles to turn things around positively in Nigeria, dem go wait, pray and fast till the end of the world ![]() |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Ugosample(m): 8:58am On May 18, 2019 |
Profkenny1:did you call NiggerArea a same country that treat men and women equally? |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Ugosample(m): 9:09am On May 18, 2019 |
willy2000:that is the MENTALITY of a typical nigga ![]() igbo men especially are good at such fvckery marry an unfortunate woman and keep her in NiggerArea while konji dey kill am for Nigeria, saddled with kids while you are abroad we see this things all the time And it does not end well ![]() |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Ugosample(m): 9:12am On May 18, 2019 |
Beautyaddy:don't mind the joker ![]() |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Ugosample(m): 9:15am On May 18, 2019 |
CanadianNaija:exactly you have to learn the language of the country WELL to fit in better |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Ugosample(m): 9:20am On May 18, 2019 |
Demainman1:leaving the destroyed country is a good decision it's not about money |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by odimbannamdi(m): 4:33pm On May 18, 2019 |
DanXplore:You probably just found your brother ![]() |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by odimbannamdi(m): 6:13pm On May 18, 2019 |
Chidimizzle:Very insightful. Starred |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Hadampson(m): 6:29am On May 19, 2019 |
darkelf:Boss, you are very funny ![]() I can understand how you feel but let him come and experience what is it like to live in zoogeria... I pray he doesn't listen to those telling him to come to his fatherland ![]() |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Chevronstaff: 9:54am On May 19, 2019 |
ShyWhale:-What did you study in Germany at MSc.level?? -How far have you gone in learning the German language? |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by Nobody: 12:42pm On May 19, 2019 |
2piK:good day sir, i dont really understand this..is it that you already had a bsc in nigeria , or you had all your higher degrees starting from your bsc in the UK ? |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by 2piK: 7:44pm On May 19, 2019*. Modified: 2:10am On May 20, 2019 |
Akinwole007:I think some of us Nigerians need to cultivate how not to be selfish and think of others. Since my response to the OP's post, the volume of emails i have received from people wanting to have private conversations with me is unreasonable, in Europe time is expensive and folks back home need to understand this, if i spend my time responding to everyone individually; i won't have the time to continue my self development. Whatever folks want to know, should be asked here for the following reasons: - Asking questions on the thread ensures that other folks that have same questions can benefit from the answer. - Other experienced folks on here can also contribute and maybe even give better answers than i probably can. But most importantly, we need to learn how to research and figure things out for ourselves. Some of us never had the benefit of guidance (other than personal research) before embarking on our respective journeys. Let us have consideration for others. |
| Re: Should I Move To The UK Or Return To Nigeria? by 2piK: 7:49pm On May 19, 2019 |
Electricboy:If you read my post thoroughly, I believe you'd not have had to ask this question. But that's irrelevant, i shared my story to motivate the OP and everyone in the same situation that's considering giving up, so they know that they can achieve anything with hard work and God's grace. It's not about me, so if you don't understand the content of my post, that's also great. You don't need to worry about it. |
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