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BabyApple:
My brother this is the question i have been waiting for.. Take a look at this verse of the Holy Quran.
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Quran 5:32

'' That was why We wrote for the Children of Israel that who ever killed a soul, except for a soul slain, or for sedition in the earth, it should be considered as though he had killed all mankind; and that who ever saved it should be regarded as though he had saved all mankind. '''' Our Messengers brought them proofs; then many of them thereafter commit excesses in the earth.:::::

My brother do you see the punishment of taking a soul unjustly.
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Islam doesn't teach violent. There are some verses of the Quran that sound violent but in actual fact they are not violent verse.. When we get there i will explain better.

Is this a verse every follower of Islam is aware of? Like a tenet of some sort or like commandments in Christianity that prohibits violence. And there's the other question I asked which you didn't answer in this post.

EmperorHarry:
Is this a verse every follower of Islam is aware of? Like a tenet of some sort or like commandments in Christianity that prohibits violence. And there's the other question I asked which you didn't answer in this post.

I can only talk for myself sir. I dont know the level of knowledge of other Muslim but it is a major sin in Islam. There are 3 sins which God always Lay Emphasise on in Quran which is
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1. Association of Partner with Him.
2. Killing Innocent Soul for Unjust reason.
3. Fornication and Adultery...

It is mentioned in several verses of the quran. The problem is some people know but they dont work on their character and conduct or rather they lack knowledge of how God operate. Whats the question i didn't answer bro?

BabyApple:
None of them render any act of worship to Jesus nor call him God. Jesus said in Mattew 4:10 ::::: Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’”
He didn't say worship me..

In those scriptures, those people worshiped Jesus.

Did you read that?..You have not answered this question.

Besides, you didn't answer the first question....

Why does the Quran have the same story line with the Bible , especially stories of David, Moses, Abraham, etc?

I will repeat this other question...... Does islam believe that Jesus is coming back?

If yes, what is he coming to do?

BabyApple:
I can only talk for myself sir. I dont know the level of knowledge of other Muslim but it is a major sin in Islam. There are 3 sins which God always Lay Emphasise on in Quran which is
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1. Association of Partner with Him.
2. Killing Innocent Soul for Unjust reason.
3. Fornication and Adultery...

It is mentioned in several verses of the quran. The problem is some people know but they dont work on their character and conduct or rather they lack knowledge of how God operate. Whats the question i didn't answer bro?

Thanks for the enlightenment bruh.
And about the question was "how do other Muslims feel about these people(Islamic extremists and terrorists)and their actions? Like do you non violent folks feel these guys aren't doing the will of Allah and therefore eternally damned or is it the other way around?

EmperorHarry:
Thanks for the enlightenment bruh.
And about the question was "how do other Muslims feel about these people(Islamic extremists and terrorists)and their actions? Like do you non violent folks feel these guys aren't doing the will of Allah and therefore eternally damned or is it the other way around?

Thank you very much for taking your time to ask question about Islam i am very Glad and Happy. My Brother , Scholars preach against such action every now and then .. They claim to be a Muslim but they go into worship places to kill people in churches and mosques. My brother Let me tell you .. Even during War ( I mean during the Prophet time ) It is illegal for Muslim Army to Harm anyone that enter any place of worship whether it is church or where idol worshipper worship their idol or any place of worship.. Once them don enter that place of worship.. You dare not harm them.. During this war GUESS WHAT, if anyone say Lahila Ilala ( Meaning There is No deity worthy of worship beside the God that created the whole universe ) he won't be kill.. Weda its genuine or not.. You dare not kill them.. One of the prophet companion did and when the prophet heard about it .. He was so angry to the extent that God reveal a verses on top that issue. Walahi Allah is more merciful than what we could think of. Ask me anything i will any 1 million times.

Originakalokalo:
In those scriptures, those people worshiped Jesus.

Did you read that?..You have not answered this question.

Besides, you didn't answer the first question....

Why does the Quran have the same story line with the Bible , especially stories of David, Moses, Abraham, etc?

I will repeat this other question...... Does islam believe that Jesus is coming back?

If yes, what is he coming to do?

Sir, The Bible wasn't revealed in English Language sir. The Bible is compilation of Books that was revealed to the prophets of God even before Jesus came to this world. They all worship One God and Came with One message. Check the whole of Old testament if you find anything like Christianity in it.. What you will always find is .. '' Worship One God '' all the prophets mentioned in the bible were all Muslim.. They worshiped Allah.. They were not Christian brother. Do a research bro

My brother good evening , i have heard an Islamic scholar talked about it on several occasions but i dont have any verses or hadith to back it up sir. Please give me some days i will get back to you with the correct answer from the hadith or quran.

BabyApple:
None of them render any act of worship to Jesus nor call him God. Jesus said in Mattew 4:10 ::::: Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’”
He didn't say worship me..

You don't read replies. Thomas said..."my Lord and my God" and you are saying that nobody called Jesus God...



Read my previous reply and answer the question...


If you don't have answers, let me know...it's okay if you don't have the answers...

We simply leave things as they are

BabyApple:
Thank you very much for taking your time to ask question about Islam i am very Glad and Happy. My Brother , Scholars preach against such action every now and then .. They claim to be a Muslim but they go into worship places to kill people in churches and mosques. My brother Let me tell you .. Even during War ( I mean during the Prophet time ) It is illegal for Muslim Army to Harm anyone that enter any place of worship whether it is church or where idol worshipper worship their idol or any place of worship.. Once them don enter that place of worship.. You dare not harm them.. During this war GUESS WHAT, if anyone say Lahila Ilala ( Meaning There is No deity worthy of worship beside the God that created the whole universe ) he won't be kill.. Weda its genuine or not.. You dare not kill them.. One of the prophet companion did and when the prophet heard about it .. He was so angry to the extent that God reveal a verses on top that issue. Walahi Allah is more merciful than what we could think of. Ask me anything i will any 1 million times.

That's new...So what's your verdict..Eternal enjoyment or damnation?

Originakalokalo:
You don't read replies. Thomas said..."my Lord and my God" and you are saying that nobody called Jesus God...



Read my previous reply and answer the question...


If you don't have answers, let me know...it's okay if you don't have the answers...

We simply leave things as they are

is Thomas not a human being like you? Does Jesus call himself God? Are there no people around you who call Jesus God. Does it mean Jesus is God.
Are there no people who call sango, oya, obatala , osun their God? Does it mean those deity are truly God?

BabyApple:
Sir, The Bible wasn't revealed in English Language sir. The Bible is compilation of Books that was revealed to the prophets of God even before Jesus came to this world. They all worship One God and Came with One message. Check the whole of Old testament if you find anything like Christianity in it.. What you will always find is .. '' Worship One God '' all the prophets mentioned in the bible were all Muslim.. They worshiped Allah.. They were not Christian brother. Do a research bro

My brother good evening , i have heard an Islamic scholar talked about it on several occasions but i dont have any verses or hadith to back it up sir. Please give me some days i will get back to you with the correct answer from the hadith or quran.

We are done here....you don't have answers to my questions.


You should consider accepting Jesus into your life.

He has life.....and he demonstrated this during his lifetime.

Jesus is the only way to eternal life.

God bless you

EmperorHarry:
That's new...So what's your verdict..Eternal enjoyment or damnation?

The major thing is not to die as a disbeliever.. Then leave the rest for God.

Originakalokalo:
We are done here....you don't have answers to my questions.

You should consider accepting Jesus into your life.
He has life.....and he demonstrated this during his lifetime.
Jesus is the only way to eternal life.
God bless you

in other word. Jesus is your God?

BabyApple:
The major thing is not to die as a disbeliever.. Then leave the rest for God.

Are you saying that these Islamic extremists and fanatics have a chance of making Islamic heaven? Cos that's the question I'm asking there.
How's the afterlife of a suicide bomber going to be like in your opinion? That's my question

EmperorHarry:
Are you saying that these Islamic extremists and fanatics have a chance of making Islamic heaven? Cos that's the question I'm asking there.
How's the afterlife of a suicide bomber going to be like in your opinion? That's my question

Brother nothing like Islamic heaven sir. Who am i to judge who is going to heaven or who is going to Hell. Who created those terrorist ? Is it not Allah? Who created those that terrorist killed is it not Allah?... I am not in the position to say this one or that one is going to hell or heaven. Lets leave everything for God to judge. But the bitter truth is that if anyone of them come out and repent and forsake their way ... Am not sorry to tell you that Allah may Forgive them and may decide to punish them... Its is left for Allah to decide their fate not me.. Because All Human are Allah property. If you steal my money and you go to Allah seeking for forgiveness , my brother walahi its not Allah that will forgive you.. You will have to come to me and seek for my forgiveness then Allah will forgive you... We all know it is illegal to commit adultery ... Who do 2 people that commit adultery offend? Is it not God. If they ask for forgiveness Allah will forgive them but if they die without seeking for forgiveness and they die associating partner with Allah... My brother .. We are allow to say it is Hell fire on the day of judgement.

BabyApple:
in other word. Jesus is your God?

He is my Lord and my God.

In the beginning was the WORD and the word was with God (The Father) and the Word was God ( The Son).

Originakalokalo:
He is my Lord and my God.

In the beginning was the WORD and the word was with God (The Father) and the Word was God ( The Son).

What you just said now contradict everything that is in the same bible you claim to believe. I leave you and your faith. For God you come from and to him is your return. How can you call what God created your lord and your God. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh brother no matter how sinful you may be.. If you have not associate partner with God.. He will forgive you... And no matter how holy you may be my brother.. Make all your good work fill the whole of this earth.. If you have associate partner with God.. You will be among the losser if you die in that condition. I pray God will lead you to the straight path and not be among the losers

BabyApple:
Yes if the man is Muhammad ( Peace be Upon Him. ).

Evil religion founded on pedofilia.

advocate666:
Evil religion founded on pedofilia.

What makes it evil bro?

BabyApple:
What you just said now contradict everything that is in the same bible you claim to believe. I leave you and your faith. For God you come from and to him is your return. How can you call what God created your lord and your God. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh brother no matter how sinful you may be.. If you have not associate partner with God.. He will forgive you... And no matter how holy you may be my brother.. Make all your good work fill the whole of this earth.. If you have associate partner with God.. You will be among the losser if you die in that condition. I pray God will lead you to the straight path and not be among the losers

The Son of God is God.

Jesus said, ...anyone that dishonor the son also dishonour the father that sent him...

Philip asked him...Show us the father.... and Jesus replied.. If you have seen the son you have seen the father....he said....I came out of God...



Jesus prayed to the father and said.....Glorify me with the Glory I had with you before the foundation of the world...

God the father manifest himself as the son....they are three in one...

Let me give you an analogy

God the father is the Sun ....the light that comes from the sun is the son and the heat is the holy spirit...

Its just an analogy for you to see the relationship between the father ,son and holy spirit.

BabyApple:
What makes it evil bro?

Founder raping underage girls and calling it marriage.

You willing to give him your underage daughter to rape as well.

Spits.

advocate666:
Founder raping underage girls and calling it marriage.
You willing to give him your underage daughter to rape as well.
Spits.

any evidence of rape?

Originakalokalo:
The Son of God is God.

Jesus said, ...anyone that dishonor the son also dishonour the father that sent him...

Philip asked him...Show us the father.... and Jesus replied.. If you have seen the son you have seen the father....he said....I came out of God...



Jesus prayed to the father and said.....Glorify me with the Glory I had with you before the foundation of the world...

God the father manifest himself as the son....they are three in one...

Let me give you an analogy

God the father is the Sun ....the light that comes from the sun is the son and the heat is the holy spirit...

Its just an analogy for you to see the relationship between the father ,son and holy spirit.

Its okay .. No problem.

BabyApple:
any evidence of rape?

Any evidence of his flying horse?

advocate666:
Any evidence of his flying horse?

did i mentioned anything about flying horses in all my message to you?

BabyApple:
did i mentioned anything about flying horses in all my message to you?

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter. Book 41, Number 4915:


'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. Book 8, Number 3311

Muhammad had such an interest in handling young girls, he criticized even the lawful marriage union of two grown adults.

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for handling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?' Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17.

there is an account in which Muhammad expressed a marital interest in a crawling baby. This event seems to have occurred around the time of the Battle of of Badr which would have made Muhammad approximately 55 years old. He had married Ayesha two years earlier, when he was 53 years of age.

(Suhayli, ii. 79: In the riwaya of Yunus I. I. recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu'lFadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, 'If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.' But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. 'Abdu'l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubab...1

So, Muhammad's interest in young girls extended beyond Ai'sha ('Ayesha).

lepasharon:
Why does Jesus want us to eat his flesh and drink his blood? Is he a vampire?

Have you seen Vampires eating their own flesh and drinking their own blood?

Answer me and I will answer you.

advocate666:
there is an account in which Muhammad expressed a marital interest in a crawling baby. This event seems to have occurred around the time of the Battle of of Badr which would have made Muhammad approximately 55 years old. He had married Ayesha two years earlier, when he was 53 years of age.

(Suhayli, ii. 79: In the riwaya of Yunus I. I. recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu'lFadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, 'If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.' But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. 'Abdu'l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubab...1

So, Muhammad's interest in young girls extended beyond Ai'sha ('Ayesha).

so where is the rape in all the narrations?

BabyApple:
so where is the rape in all the narrations?

Sex with a minor is rape.
I know your unholy religion has convinced you otherwise but it is still rape.

Aisha admitted he raped her when she was nine.

You will give your child to the mad rapist but will you drink camel's urine?


Anas reported: Eight men of the tribe of 'Ukl came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and swore allegiance to him on Islam, but found the climate of that land uncogenial to their health and thus they became sick, and they made complaint of that to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: Why don't you go to (the fold) of our camels along with our shepherd, and make use of their milk and urine. They said: Yes. They set out and drank their (camels') milk and urine

There is an account in the hadiths about Muhammad and his soldiers coming home from battle. There was a soldier who was excitedly racing home to embrace his new bride. All this is very normal and natural. What new bridegroom would not be eager to see and to be with his lovely bride after an arduous battle? So, the soldier of this hadith was driving his camel as fast as he could towards the city of Medina. They would kiss, embrace, and start to talk about things that transpired while they were apart, and then they would sit down to a delicious meal she had prepared. They were a couple in free and natural love, the way Allah had decreed marriage to be.

Then the story becomes morally debased when Muhammad arrives upon the scene. The first thing the hadith records is that Muhammad put down the marriage of his soldier. Muhammad could not understand why his soldier would marry a matron. Muhammad understood human copulation, but he did not appreciate the true love of a husband for his own wife. His thoughts of marriage were thoughts of handling young girls. The hadith continues, noting that Muhammad prevented his men from entering Medina until night had arrived. The fast riding soldier was eager to see his wife, and he was acting perfectly normal for a husband who truly loved his wife. But, Muhammad delayed his soldier's anticipated embrace with his wife, so that he could direct his soldiers' attention to the genital area of their wives. All of his soldiers would have to stay on the outskirts of Medina until night fell and their women had ample time to shave their pubic area. Bukhari records the narration as follows,

Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah: While we were returning from a Ghazwa (Holy Battle) with the Prophet, I started driving my camel fast, as it was a lazy camel A rider came behind me and pricked my camel with a spear he had with him, and then my camel started running as fast as the best camel you may see. Behold! The rider was the Prophet himself. He said, 'What makes you in such a hurry?" I replied, I am newly married " He said, "Did you marry a virgin or a matron? I replied, "A matron." He said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you may play with her and she with you?" When we were about to enter (Medina), the Prophet said, "Wait so that you may enter (Medina) at night so that the lady of unkempt hair may comb her hair and the one whose husband has been absent may shave her pubic region. Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 16.

So, instead of picturing a returning soldier embracing his new bride, Muhammad turned the picture into a city where all the married women were sitting around shaving the hair off their external genitals before the rude soldiers entered town. Muhammad set the moral attitude and marital tone for his soldiers' homecoming.

This historical account is not an account recorded by the enemies of Muhammad. Indeed, the enemies of Muhammad would not be able to think up such sexually outlandish behavior as this one. This account appears in the most traditional and conservative hadith recognized by all Muslims.