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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 3:59pm On May 29, 2019
Earthquake3:


What kind of formation is that grin
They just wanted to fit the best players in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 4:01pm On May 29, 2019
edi287:
LA Liga's Nigeria all time 11.

Who should've made the list?? Ohenhen and maybe Gbenga Okunowo for me.
La liga Nigeria all time 11 without Chris Ohenhen is not a list.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 4:29pm On May 29, 2019
Kog45:
La liga Nigeria all time 11 without Chris Ohenhen is not a list.
Any reason why he didn't make our France 98 squad? Wouldn't he have been a better option than Yekini as that time,
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 4:31pm On May 29, 2019
Mickael2:


So just because they are foreign born they should be chosen over indigenous players?


Nope but if cannot get true young indigenous players he shouldn't deny the foreign born the Chance to rep thier country

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 4:41pm On May 29, 2019
edi287:

Any reason why he didn't make our France 98 squad? Wouldn't he have been a better option than Yekini as that time,
He deserved a spot then but Yekini pedigree took him to France 98 but Ohenhen or Akpoborie should have taken Amokachie place cos he was not fit for the tournament due to injury.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:57pm On May 29, 2019
Odunayaw:
NPFL is Dead because player(s) are playing to escape poverty? (Never mind you didn't talk about their performance in the game)

Its an open secret that Football is a way out of poverty street moreso among Africans and South Americans(Add Latin America too).
The league is not underdeveloped because of "player wants", it is the way it is because the little things (check organisation, exposure) are neglected

Sir, what most people don't realize is that Nigerian football is evolving. Think back when Finidi George, Iroha, Mike Obiku, Babangida, Keshi and co left the local league and walked into the first team of top clubs in Europe. Can the same thing happen today? Was our league better organized then? Academy football is big business today in Nigeria. The best players are there. Just selling 2 players a year from your academy to a club in Latvia or Luxembourg will net you minimum of 1million euros. That's over N400 million. Which NPFL club will pay that?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 5:06pm On May 29, 2019
The Nff are to blame for the poor performance of this U20s. I wouldn't blame the coaches or players. It was the Nff's responsibility to organize a bootcamp a month after the AYC where the coaches will groom the home based U20 players and few fringe players based abroad ,play select friendly games against local academies and NPFL clubs. This way, players are selected using the process of elimination by substitution ,till they get the very best players and a well meshed team.

The so selected players will then proceed to Austria where the foreign based players join up for the final camping to beef up the squad.
This was the template that yielded results for SIASIA prior to 2005 set and his Rio Olympic team.

Aigbogun has very little blame as the whole process wasn't well set up. Pinicks board have been clueless when it comes to grooming age grade teams.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:10pm On May 29, 2019
Barryseal:
The Nff are to blame for the poor performance of this U20s. I wouldn't blame the coaches or players. It was the Nff's responsibility to organize a bootcamp a month after the AYC where the coaches will groom the home based U20 players and few fringe players based abroad ,play select friendly games against local academies and NPFL clubs. This way, players are selected by elimination by substitution ,till they get the very best players.

The so selected players will then proceed to Austria where the foreign based players join up for the final camping to beef up the squad.
This was the template that yielded results for SIASIA prior to 2005 set and his Rio Olympic team.

Aigbogun has very little blame as the whole process wasn't well set up. Pinicks board have been clueless when it comes to grooming age grade teams.

Who is supposed to draw up a program/camping plan for the team? The NFF or the coach? The coach in conjunction with the Technical committee? Just can't blame the NFF alone.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 5:14pm On May 29, 2019
Truidstar:


Who is supposed to draw up a program/camping plan for the team? The NFF or the coach? The coach in conjunction with the Technical committee? Just can't blame the NFF alone.

I'm very very sure Aigbogun must have sent his proposal and program to the board. Maybe due to funds they didn't follow through and Aigbogun cannot come out and speak up against his employers.
Remember, the Nff are owning Rohr since this year, so they are running low on funds.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 5:19pm On May 29, 2019
Truidstar:


Who is supposed to draw up a program/camping plan for the team? The NFF or the coach? The coach in conjunction with the Technical committee? Just can't blame the NFF alone.

Secondly, the normal process should have been for Aigbogun to send his technical report to the technical committee after the AYC,then draw a raod map to the world cup, defend his program before the technical committee who will vet, approve and send recommendations to the board for finals approval.
If the process was judiciously followed through, this team wouldn't be as poor as this.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 5:24pm On May 29, 2019
Barryseal:


I'm very very sure Aigbogun must have sent his proposal and program to the board. Maybe due to funds they didn't follow through and Aigbogun cannot come out and speak up against his employers.
Remember, the Nff are owning Rohr since this year, so they are running low on funds.

What funds?? It seems like you're dealing with hearsay

You didn't see all the facilities and the friendlies organized by the NFF, you didn't see the hotels and the legends NFF organized to meet them

NFF is supposed to play for them on the pitch abi? On the last part Aiteo pays Rohr's salaries not NFF get your facts right

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 5:27pm On May 29, 2019
Barryseal:


I'm very very sure Aigbogun must have sent his proposal and program to the board. Maybe due to funds they didn't follow through and Aigbogun cannot come out and speak up against his employers.
Remember, the Nff are owning Rohr since this year, so they are running low on funds.

Aigbogun had up to 40 players at camp at one time and he selected the worst and you're here calling NFF

Those that won the world cup didn't have this amount of funding and preparation

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by googlZa86e5(m): 5:28pm On May 29, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 5:32pm On May 29, 2019
Earthquake3:


What funds?? It seems like you're dealing with hearsay

You didn't see all the facilities and the friendlies organized by the NFF, you didn't see the hotels and the legends NFF organized to meet them

NFF is supposed to play for them on the pitch abi? On the last part Aiteo pays Rohr's salaries not NFF get your facts right

Una too dey like eye service and paparazzi for this una country.
I'm talking about some sort of long camping to blend the foundation of the team.
You call that sparsely organized thing in Austria camping? Every Tom dck and Harry was breezing into camp with his agent with reckless abandon and impunity, what kind of concentration will you get from such arrangement.
Follow some of these European clubs this summer and see what camping should be.

Anyway, Nigerians deserve whatever they get from those at the helm.
I don't talk my own.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 5:34pm On May 29, 2019
Earthquake3:


Aigbogun had up to 40 players at camp at one time and he selected the worst and you're here calling NFF

Those that won the world cup didn't have this amount of funding and preparation
Best players without proper blending will make a very bad team. Did you start following football recently not to know this?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 5:35pm On May 29, 2019
Barryseal:


Una too dey like eye service and paparazzi for this una country.
I'm talking about some sort of long camping to blend the foundation of the team.
You call that sparsely organized thing in Austria camping? Every Tom dck and Harry was breezing into camp with his agent with reckless abandon and impunity, what kind of concentration will you get from such arrangement.
Follow some of these European clubs this summer and see what camping should be.

Anyway, Nigerians deserve whatever they get from those at the helm.
I don't talk my own.

You were expecting some sort of European camping?

The fact that Aigbogun had time and resources in his hands and he failed woefully, NFF had no part in his blame
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 5:37pm On May 29, 2019
Barryseal:

Best players without proper blending will make a very bad team. Did you start following football recently not to know this?

What best players are you talking about, Effiong and Offia or Mohammed?

He chose the worst and overaged players, he had at least 4 months

Modified : He was appointed as early as February 2018 the man is a dunce
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 5:44pm On May 29, 2019
stop defending Aigbogun he is failure ..are NFF supposed to stand guard so no agent will come in? am sure aigbogun invited those agents including yakubu
Barryseal:

Best players without proper blending will make a very bad team. Did you start following football recently not to know this?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 5:48pm On May 29, 2019
Earthquake3:


What best players are you talking about, Effiong and Offia or Mohammed?

He chose the worst and overaged players, he had at least 4 months

Modified : He was appointed as early as February 2018 the man is a dunce

If the team was camped early, maybe some of these guys you mentioned wouldn't have made the cut.
I ask again which 4months did he have? 4 months camping or what exactly? The Nff simply didn't do enough administratively. I don't know why you're struggling to comprehend a simple issue like this.

Talking about the players who were dropped, how many have you actually seen play before? The Dele Bashiru guy who was supposed to be the best player in this team going by his pedigree and cv as a Man city graduate have been our of his dept.

The team is not prepared, yours eeing this with your korokoro eyes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 5:51pm On May 29, 2019
isan:
stop defending Aigbogun he is failure ..are NFF supposed to stand guard so no agent will come in? am sure aigbogun invited those agents including yakubu

Oga the team should have been camped in Nigeria after the AYC. The Austria camping should have been the final lap of preparation leading up to the world cup.
What's so confusing to understand here?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:54pm On May 29, 2019
BascoVanVeli:


Are you the one who will pay for this? How many people go to matches and buy merchandise? Even if all teams were privately owned you won't see many academies because it just isn't feasible. Do u think it is easy to run a football club not to talk about adding an academy to that responsibility?

If Remo stars can have a decent academy. The big teams like Kano Pillars and Enyimba can certainly run good ones.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 5:56pm On May 29, 2019
Barryseal:


If the team was camped early, maybe some of these guys you mentioned wouldn't have made the cut.
I ask again which 4months did he have? 4 months camping or what exactly? The Nff simply didn't do enough administratively. I don't know why you're struggling to comprehend a simple issue like this.

Talking about the players who were dropped, how many have you actually seen play before? The Dele Bashiru guy who was supposed to be the best player in this team going by his pedigree and cv as a Man city graduate have been our of his dept.

The team is not prepared, yours eeing this with your korokoro eyes.

The man was appointed on Feb 2018 He had a year plus to do his scouting and team selections

He now went to the world cup with old men and you are here defending him, maybe he needs supernatural eyes to see that players like Effiong and Our right back are not proper football players

Leave matter abeg
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:56pm On May 29, 2019
edi287:
LA Liga's Nigeria all time 11.

Who should've made the list?? Ohenhen and maybe Gbenga Okunowo for me.

Ohenhen definitely
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 5:57pm On May 29, 2019
Barryseal:


Oga the team should have been camped in Nigeria after the AYC. The Austria camping should have been the final lap of preparation leading up to the world cup.
What's so confusing to understand here?

What prevented the team from camping, NFF, funds, Pinnick?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:02pm On May 29, 2019
Barryseal:


Oga the team should have been camped in Nigeria after the AYC. The Austria camping should have been the final lap of preparation leading up to the world cup.
What's so confusing to understand here?

The team was camped in Nigeria for several months before going to Germany.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 6:03pm On May 29, 2019
Vanzekin
Dele Adeleye
Apam Onyeka
Taye Taiwo
Sani keita
Mikel
Solomon Abwo
Jon Owoeri
Isaac Promise
Obasi Ogbuke
Solomon Okoronkwo
Subs

Monday James
Gift Atulewa
Kola Anubi
.........

The above was Siasia's U20 team in 2005. Out of these lot, Mikel, obasi, Okoronkwo and Taye Taiwo were the foreign based, while the rest were home based.
This team played some of the best football at that championship brushing aside teams with ease including the host nation Holland.
Siasia achieved excellence with this due to his dedication to long camping of the home-based boys. At a point, he was paying these guys from his pocket and even went as far as pleading with state governments, Bayelsa State in particular, to donate to the camping of this team.

People call these guys Siasia players don't understand these players were ready to die for Siasia due to his personal sacrifice. But we are in 2019, we don't need the coach to go out of his way to build a team for the World Cup.
I hold Nff responsible for this mess.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 6:07pm On May 29, 2019
tbaba1234:


The team was camped in Nigeria for several months before going to Germany.
I never read about this camping. If you will indulge, please where did they camp and for what duration? Can you get the results of some of the games they played durring this camp in Nigeria?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:11pm On May 29, 2019
Barryseal:

I never read about this camping. If you will indulge, please where did they camp and for what duration? Can you get the results of some of the games they played durring this camp in Nigeria?

They were camped in Abuja alongside the under 17. They played friendlies with local teams.

They did not just come together and go to Germany.. They were camped for several months in Nigeria.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 6:12pm On May 29, 2019
Barryseal:
Vanzekin
Dele Adeleye
Apam Onyeka
Taye Taiwo
Sani keita
Mikel
Solomon Abwo
Jon Owoeri
Isaac Promise
Obasi Ogbuke
Solomon Okoronkwo
Subs

Monday James
Gift Atulewa
Kola Anubi
.........

The above was Siasia's U20 team in 2005. Out of these lot, Mikel, obasi, Okoronkwo and Taye Taiwo were the foreign based, while the rest were home based.
This team played some of the best football at that championship brushing aside teams with ease including the host nation Holland.
Siasia achieved excellence with this due to his dedication to long camping of the home-based boys. At a point, he was paying these guys from his pocket and even went as far as pleading with state governments, Bayelsa State in particular, to donate to the camping of this team.

People call these guys Siasia players don't understand these players were ready to die for Siasia due to his personal sacrifice. But we are in 2019, we don't need the coach to go out of his way to build a team for the World Cup.
I hold Nff responsible for this mess.

You are right on point sir, siasia sacrificed a lot for this team to show you it wasn't a fluke he did it again at the Olympics.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:12pm On May 29, 2019
Barryseal:

I never read about this camping. If you will indulge, please where did they camp and for what duration? Can you get the results of some of the games they played durring this camp in Nigeria?

This tweet was in April..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:18pm On May 29, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:19pm On May 29, 2019
Aigbogun had more than a year to find the best blend of players..

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