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Ishilove:
My dear brother, not at all. I have just native names. Besides, what we call 'Christian names' are actually Jewish names.

you are ignorant. majority of Igbos are baptised with non Jewish names mostly Igbo names and European names.

Ishilove:
I edited my post.

I just read it. Lots of people have the same view. I remember seeing Reno Omokri's tweets about the subject. He said that Jews are not adopting Nigerian names and there's no reason for Nigerians to adopt Jewish and English names. He stated that there's no where in the bible that it was stated that people should adopt so called "Christian names".

Armaggedon:
of course you have to Change it cos if you convert from being a human to an asshole you don't have to take the name "Christian" with you.

Lol. Being an ibo man means you are naturally daft. I don't engage ibos on this forum because I can testify to your level of stupidity. Even the highly educated ones like Achebe, exhibit the same stupidity. But arguing with people like naptu2, whom everyone knows of his high level of intelligence is what made me quote you. Next them, just scroll when you see intelligent people chatting.

LLobiorah:
You wanna learn from me?
Ok

Believe me, our women won't love to be given out at a tender age for marriage. Tho not denying, that there is no cultural practices of such now and then, but God be the glory, some organizations are speaking against because of the health implications of the girl child.

Last time I checked, religious extremism is a serious worry to each and everyone of us. But we don't need a soothsayer to tell us, which religion has killed in the name of her doctrine in this country. And igbos having seen this, wouldnt want to be one.

How about Fasting? My religion doesn't force me to fast, neither will it arrest me if I don't. Is all about choice, does Muslim religion guarantee that?

Or how about drinks? You see it as bad, isn't it?
Well over here in the east, what is in a life, if we don't have have our bottle of 'Life and Hero'?

Regina Daniel is how old pls? Or is Regina not an Igbo girl?.. You have no point on that.

And always learn to make enquiry before castigating other people's religion. Islam courages early marriage just to prevent formication. The truth is that the world is corrupt, everyone including myself has embraced the western culture of having b.f and g.f just for sexual gratification. Sex outside marriage in Islam is sin and I believe Christianity doesn't encourage sex outside marriage as well. However if such young girl doesn't want it, no one can force her as there is no compulsion in the religion of Islam.

Secondly, if Islam truly encourages killing of other people who do not practice Islam or go against Islamic teaching, then I think Yoruba race shouldnt exist anymore as we have both Christians and Muslims. Go and make ur research no definition of the word "terrorism" carries the term religion, its always as a result of politics and not religion. Those killing might be Muslims but they dnt practice the true religion of Islam.


Thirdly, you should have first make enquiries as to why Muslims fast and why it is mandatory on every Muslim to fast. The purpose of fasting in Islam is simple. Its just to appreciate what Allah has done for you cos there are many out there who dnt have access to 3 share meal In a day. Fasting will make you feel what they go through. In that sense, you will appreciate God and one will be willing to.help those that dnt have. As regard why its mandatory, fasting is among the 5 pillars of Islam . For one to be said to be a Muslim, he or she must fast during Ramadan unless the person is unfit.


See your reasons are not in any way valid. The way Islam is strong in Yoruba land is the same way Christianity is strong and it doesn't deter us from embracing our culture.

maestroferddi:
Don't dodge...just do the needful.

Dodge For what. Dnt be lazy... Google will provide every information you need for you

Osagyefo98:
Gibberish u have not countered for once ....what the he'll or are u saying such facts doesn't exist even when u know that it exist.


Secondly I still repeat what I speak and write as igbo is my native tongue and let me quickly get it Olundi in what aspect because if u use Olundi I couldn't even hear u.

U wrote with Igbo Izugbe not Olundi but that's by the way and not issue of discussion.


As far no better rubuttal we now hold these as true that secondary language and igbo historical backing missing conspicuously in. Ebonyi history is a fact.


I wanted to add third findings but I won't like to heat up facts and arms externals reading this.

My Olundi'? Lolz when even the central language I typed, you couldn't even gimme a good response, how much more the olundi? And if you can prove to us, you can write your igbo land, I don't mind engaging you on one on one conversation.

Also, you are here making stupid remarks as ebonyi having the central izugbe, as the second language or something. Osagyefo why is English language, your lingua franca, when you have your edo language?

You can't deny that igbo don't have subgroups. You have talked about 'known similarities', You haven't said shit.

Here is your little proof of the shared similarities of ebonyi with her other igbo states.

Obaji is an igbo word regarded as barn, ebonyi call it so
Igbo call land Ala, ebonyi call it Ali..
The word Anya, meaning eye is known by all igbos, ebonyi call it Enya.. Mumu hope you seeing the similarities.

I'm still waiting for your vain similarities between her and Tiv. And I still await the verified evidence, books or even scripts to prove this Osagyefo.

If you can't put this on this forum. You stand to be ignored.

konoplyanka:
Lol. Being an ibo man means you are naturally daft. I don't engage ibos on this forum because I can testify to your level of stupidity. Even the highly educated ones like Achebe, exhibit the same stupidity. But arguing with people like naptu2, whom everyone knows of his high level of intelligence is what made me quote you. Next them, just scroll when you see intelligent people chatting.

Good. I'm happy that you have sung to your natural state of bitterness and anguish after having afforded you the one minute privilege of being human. Run along bitter soul!

Ardar:
Since I was born and now I am getting old, I have never seen an Igbo Muslim and yet you claim there are millions and billions of them, why are you lying?

me too.. I even live in Ebonyi that people claim are 80 percent Muslims but i dont know or seen any Igbo Muslim. Bc am 20+

kehinde1588:
Regina Daniel is how old pls? Or is Regina not an Igbo girl?.. You have no point on that.

And always learn to make enquiry before castigating other people's religion. Islam courages early marriage just to prevent formication. The truth is that the world is corrupt, everyone including myself has embraced the western culture of having b.f and g.f just for sexual gratification. Sex outside marriage in Islam is sin and I believe Christianity doesn't encourage sex outside marriage as well. However if such young girl doesn't want it, no one can force her as there is no compulsion in the religion of Islam.

Secondly, if Islam truly encourages killing of other people who do not practice Islam or go against Islamic teaching, then I think Yoruba race shouldnt exist anymore as we have both Christians and Muslims. Go and make ur research no definition of the word "terrorism" carries the term religion, its always as a result of politics and not religion. Those killing might be Muslims but they dnt practice the true religion of Islam.


Thirdly, you should have first make enquiries as to why Muslims fast and why it is mandatory on every Muslim to fast. The purpose of fasting in Islam is simple. Its just to appreciate what Allah has done for you cos there are many out there who dnt have access to 3 share meal In a day. Fasting will make you feel what they go through. In that sense, you will appreciate God and one will be willing to.help those that dnt have. As regard why its mandatory, fasting is among the 5 pillars of Islam . For one to be said to be a Muslim, he or she must fast during Ramadan unless the person is unfit.


See your reasons are not in any way valid. The way Islam is strong in Yoruba land is the same way Christianity is strong and it doesn't deter us from embracing our culture.

Story story story story!

Regina Daniels age? Oh don't tell me you are stupid to believe that she is the sweet 16, as she says every year?
Dude, quit lying thru your teeth, you guys are into forced marriage.

You guys are more into teenage marriage, don't deny it. And saving you guys from fornication, that's bullshit.

Terrorisms.. Yes I admit, Muslims are not terrorists, but the good number of terrorists are from where? I recall in 2016, how a woman was killed in Kano by some terrorists in sheep clothing or how about the abuja preacher? The killers what were the basis of the killings? Dude stop being a hypocrite.


As for the fast, I believe there is a good reason why it's carried out. But why the force, what happened to choice, must I be arrested by the Hisbah coz I ate outside?

Islam would never thrive in igbo land, but that would not for any situation make us force the practicing igbo Muslims not to exist. But as for them to grow beyond their number, Lie Lie, it would never happen.

naptu2:
1. Sheikh Abdullahi Adam Idoko:

He is the Chief imam of the University of Nigeria (UNN) Nsukka. Hails from Ogute Enugu-Ezike in Nsukka, Enugu State.
He is also the Deputy secretary-general of the Nigeria Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA).


2. Ustaz Christian Isah Okonkwo:
He is from Akpugo in Nkanu LGA, Enugu State, embraced Islam as a member of the National Youth Service Corps (NYSC). He was the president of Moslem Corpers Association in Kaduna State and the Moslem Corpers Association of Nigeria.
He was made the chief Imam of University of Ibadan in the 1980s.
He is currently the Director of Administration of Nigeria Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA)


3. Alhaji Abdulaziz Chibuzo Ude:
Hails from Anambra state.
He is described as a businessman, Industrialist, Billionaire and a Philanthropist.
He was an acting Chairman of the Board of Directors of NEWSWATCH in the 1980s.
He is the founder of Nok Publishers and first African editor at Double Day.


4. Alhaji Daud Onyeagocha:

He is from Imo state, a human right lawyer.
He is the Chief Imam of Imo State and the Waziri Hausawa. His grandfather was said to be the first recorded Owerri man to embrace Islam in 1908.

5. Sheikh Daud Nwagui:
He is from Afikpo in Ebonyi State.
He is a Muslim from birth and the son of late Sheikh Ibrahim Okpani Nwagui, the founder of the Islamic Center, Afikpo who brought Islam to Afipko in 1958.

6. HRH Dr. Abdulfatai Emetumah:
He is the Igwe(Traditional ruler) of Umuofor Kingdom, Oguta LGA , Of Imo state. He is described as an Islamic scholar.

His father, Eze Alhaji Abdul Gaffaru (Ezeodo, Eze Ohazurukwe I of Akabor) is said to have converted to Islam during the war and thereafter brought it to his home town.

7. Sheikh Shehu Uthman Anaga:
Hails from Ebonyi state. Became a Muslim at the age of 13 in 1972. He has worked with JNI as a Preacher. He holds a BA in Islamic Studies from the King Sa'ud University in Riyad, Saudi Arabia.
He was the vice principal and later principal of of Jama'atu Institute for Arabic and Islamic Studies. He was the provost of the Jama'atu College of Education, Kaduna. He has completed his Masters and is pursuing his PHD.

8. Alhaji Yahaya Ndu:
He is from Ezeagu LGA in Enugu State. An Imam at Al-Hauda Muslim School. He was the presidential Candidate of the African Renaissance Party (ARP).

9. Ustaz Aminu Igwebe Odera:
He is from Orlu in Imo state. Converted to Islam at the age of 12 in the 1970s. Studied Islamic studies and later Food science technology in Tripoli University Libya.

He was the chief Imam of Owerri. He was appointed the director of Administration of Nigeria Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA) in 2000. His maternal uncle, Late Muhammad Ukaba was the chief imam of Orlu Local Government.

10. Chief Abdulkadir A Obiahu:
He is from Afikpo in Ebonyi state. He is an Engineer by Training, in 2007 he was conferred the Chieftaincy title of 'Onye Nchekwa Okwukwe Ala kuba Na Ala Igbo' (The Defender of the Islamic Faith in Igbo land) by His Royal Highness, Eze Nwosu Ibe, the Ezeigbo I of Abuja. He converted to Islam in 1982.

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I've got more, if you are interested.

No 2 though.. I don't know that Muslims bears Christian as a name

LLobiorah:
My Olundi'? Lolz when even the central language I typed, you couldn't even gimme a good response, how much more the olundi? And if you can prove to us, you can write your igbo land, I don't mind engaging you on one on one conversation.

Also, you are here making stupid remarks as ebonyi having the central izugbe, as the second language or something. Osagyefo why is English language, your lingua franca, when you have your edo language?

You can't deny that igbo don't have subgroups. You have talked about 'known similarities', You haven't said shit.

Here is your little proof of the shared similarities of ebonyi with her other igbo states.

Obaji is an igbo word regarded as barn, ebonyi call it so
Igbo call land Ala, ebonyi call it Ali..
The word Anya, meaning eye is known by all igbos, ebonyi call it Enya.. Mumu hope you seeing the similarities.

I'm still waiting for your vain similarities between her and Tiv. And I still await the verified evidence, books or even scripts to prove this Osagyefo.

If you can't put this on this forum. You stand to be ignored.

Stop defending blindly because me and u knows the truth and alienation and how ebonyi stands

I made a statement that dropping more proof is like arming externals against u guys.

Recently in my facebook I stumbled upon a comedy shown and I was captioned by its heading( about. Elderly response to issues about war) little did I know it was shot with ebonyi dialect....uptill today am still watching the two short videos , straining my ear to get the message and u here defending what I don't know..


All am saying is simple, igbo language is a second and secondary language to u guys....haba.

Arda1000:
me too.. I even live in Ebonyi that people claim are 80 percent Muslims but i dont know or seen any Igbo Muslim. Bc am 20+

Haaaaaaaa

Why naaaa?

LLobiorah:
Story story story story!

Regina Daniels age? Oh don't tell me you are stupid to believe that she is the sweet 16, as she says every year?
Dude, quit lying thru your teeth, you guys are into forced marriage.

You guys are more into teenage marriage, don't deny it. And saving you guys from fornication, that's bullshit.

Terrorisms.. Yes I admit, Muslims are not terrorists, but the good number of terrorists are from where? I recall in 2016, how a woman was killed in Kano by some terrorists in sheep clothing or how about the abuja preacher? The killers what were the basis of the killings? Dude stop being a hypocrite.


As for the fast, I believe there is a good reason why it's carried out. But why the force, what happened to choice, must I be arrested by the Hisbah coz I ate outsi

Islam would never thrive in igbo land, but that would not for any situation make us force the practicing igbo Muslims not to exist. But as for them to grow beyond their number, Lie Lie, it would never happen.

I presume you are mature enough, and thats the only reason I am engaging you. You dnt have to call someone stupid before you make your point.


I only seized the opportunity to educate you about some things in Islam. I dnt care if you believe or not, mine is dnt believe everything you heard about someone or something, dnt be gullible, make your own finding before drawing a reference.


Islam has come to stay in the east. You can see that in how okorocha felicitated with Muslims today.

Osagyefo98:
Stop defending blindly because me and u knows the truth and alienation and how ebonyi stands

I made a statement that dropping more proof is like arming externals against u guys.

Recently in my facebook I stumbled upon a comedy shown and I was captioned by its heading( about. Elderly response to issues about war) little did I know it was shot with ebonyi dialect....uptill today am still watching the two short videos , straining my ear to get the message and u here defending what I don't know..


All am saying is simple, igbo language is a second and secondary language to u guys....haba.

You are just an idiot, swear down!
I have given you facts on the similarities between the languages, and you yapping sawdust. Central igbo is secondary I agree, but with much similarities that your edoid brain would never comprehend

Engage me on the said central igbo, which is your first language, you 'charlatan', couldn't do shit.

Give us evidence of the Tiv similarities, you have not for one sec proved that with a link or a book for us to compare and contrast. What should I then make of you?

Osagyefo, wallow in your daftness. This is my last response to you tonight.

kehinde1588:
Dodge For what. Dnt be lazy... Google will provide every information you need for you

Take a hike and keep moving....

Osagyefo98:
Haaaaaaaa

Why naaaa?

I know u will land here..
U are the chief Crusader in Ebonyi/Enugu Muslims matter. So jus tell us any Ebonyi/Enugu igbo Muslim u know whether in Twitter or FB or anywhere jus drop his username let's end this argument.. just one name

kehinde1588:
I presume you are mature enough, and thats the only reason I am engaging you. You dnt have to call someone stupid before you make your point.


I only seized the opportunity to educate you about some things in Islam. I dnt care if you believe or not, mine is dnt believe everything you heard about someone or something, dnt be gullible, make your own finding before drawing a reference.


Islam has come to stay in the east. You can see that in how okorocha felicitated with Muslims today.

Lemme point one thing clear to you, most of us are not blinded by hate for our neighbors because they are in another religion. I really commend okorocha for what he did, but that would not make him to convert. You saw the post of the man that helped the muslim faithfuls or the one I saw today of a woman that cooked meals and gave to them, bros that's the nature of how's gonna be. I, myself is planning on doing same to. So felicitations with them ain't bad, but mark my words we ain't converting.

You have to understand that, is natural bro, so natural.

P.S: sorry I used insulting words on you, forgive my manners.

LLobiorah:
You are just an idiot, swear down!
I have given you facts on the similarities between the languages, and you yapping sawdust. Central igbo is secondary I agree, but with much similarities that your edoid brain would never comprehend

Engage me on the said central igbo, which is your first language, you 'charlatan', couldn't do shit.

Give us evidence of the Tiv similarities, you have not for one sec proved that with a link or a book for us to compare and contrast. What should I then make of you?

Osagyefo, wallow in your daftness. This is my last response to you tonight.

If not for any other thing am most humbled at bolded.

Eziokwu bu ndu.


You always curse up and ddown but is like I will drop the video link so u can watch and explain for me later because I still didn't get the message passed in the short video.

I think u assume I cooked the analysis up but I didn't, I loved the drama of the play but the language of communication is my problem.

maestroferddi:
I am a well-travelled Igboman.

I was even being generous with that figure.

There is no how I can communicate the repudiation/disgust/revulsion an average Igboman habours for Islam...

Forget these asinine tales being spurned by misguided Muslim Yoruba media elements....Embracing Islam in Igboland is like setting oneself up as a pariah/outcast...

Islam and its doctrine are antithetical to Igbo consciousness and world view...

You will not know...

So much hate in you folks mehn....It's quite disheartening.

Arda1000:
I know u will land here..
U are the chief Crusader in Ebonyi/Enugu Muslims matter. So jus tell us any Ebonyi/Enugu igbo Muslim u know whether in Twitter or FB or anywhere jus drop his username let's end this argument.. just one name

Ajuna ajuju kariri gi.

Osagyefo98:
If not for any other thing am most humbled at bolded.

Eziokwu bu ndu.


You always curse up and ddown but is like I will drop the video link so u can watch and explain for me later because I still didn't get the message passed in the short video.

I think u assume I cooked the analysis up but I didn't, I loved the drama of the play but the language of communication is my problem.

The tiv similarities Oga, we are waiting.

sulmeza:
So much hate in you folks mehn....It's quite disheartening.

Your point being

Osagyefo98:
Ajuna ajuju kariri gi.

Okariri mu ma na okariro gi. So give us one name, sor ofu afa. U can do it.

Osagyefo98:
Ajuna ajuju kariri gi.

Okariri mu ma na okariro gi. So give us one name, sor ofu afa. U can do it since 80 percent of Ebonyi/Enugu people are Muslims. So out of the 160 millions Muslims give us one name

LLobiorah:
Lemme point one thing clear to you, most of us are not blinded by hate for our neighbors because they are in another religion. I really commend okorocha for what he did, but that would not make him to convert. You saw the post of the man that helped the muslim faithfuls or the one I saw today of a woman that cooked meals and gave to them, bros that's the nature of how's gonna be. I, myself is planning on doing same to. So felicitations with them ain't bad, but mark my words we ain't converting.

You have to understand that, is natural bro, so natural.

P.S: sorry I used insulting words on you, forgive my manners.

igbos
hateful and mannerless set of people.. long may your pain and frustration continue..
someone articulated good points and the first thing u did is call him stupid..
if I ask you now,you're are probably outside SE, somewhere in north or SW where Muslims were part of the community that accommodate u...
just common greeting your Muslim brothers,hell broke loose and u think its justified..
go through some of my post and see how I vehemently use to defend Igbo I was even termed ipob
you deserved the hatred people throw at you..

maestroferddi:
Orodo is bordering my hometown so I want to get to the root of the matter...

A whole family embracing Islam in Igboland is worth investigating...

A whole family?
Chukwu ekwela ngwerre gbaa aji. This one nah big fat lie, asi na esi isi.

maestroferddi:
Your point being

Clear enough to a discerning mind, but I'll still indulge you.

"It breaks my heart seeing you guys (Igbo folks) show so much hate towards others on this forum".

LLobiorah:
The tiv similarities Oga, we are waiting.

Obiorah, First point argument defeated , at least u finally agreed and am happy the truth stands tall.

For the second one, the night is far spent and I know u feeling sleepy, will drop that for you tomorrow in details.... despite u will still argue before u agree.

Arda1000:
Okariri mu ma na okariro gi. So give us one name, sor ofu afa. U can do it since 80 percent of Ebonyi/Enugu people are Muslims. So out of the 160 millions Muslims give us one name

U stressing yourself so much , allow the details to fade away.

Osagyefo98:
U stressing yourself so much , allow the details to fade away.

Oga Edo.. Just one Muslim name u no fit give.. I tire 4 u o!

olril17:
igbos
hateful and mannerless set of people.. long may your pain and frustration continue..
someone articulated good points and the first thing u did is call him stupid..
if I ask you now,you're are probably outside SE, somewhere in north or SW where Muslims were part of the community that accommodate u...
just common greeting your Muslim brothers,hell broke loose and u think its justified..
go through some of my post and see how I vehemently use to defend Igbo I was even termed ipob
you deserved the hatred people throw at you..

If you weren't fast to castigate, you would have seen where I apologized. And if I put it to you, that my points also sidelined his, you would whip up ethnic sentiments that I'm chest beating.

Just as the north or SW have accommodated us, so do we do here to them. I'm not against the greeting, wetin concern me? From the beginning, my arguments have boiled onto one fact, that it would be easier for millions of carmels to pass through the eye of a needle, than 100 igbos just in one go to become muslims.

Your Man, has been focusing on Islam taking extensive roots in igboland, and that I'm telling him, it's imposicant. Please Oga try to follow accordingly, before you wail.