123JohnF:

Nobody offended the participant, many explained why they believe the visa was denied, including me. The participant offended herself just because she did NOT like the answers.

seyewest:

To be honest, I'm against digging up her ''Fertility issues'' on this forum, it's so wrong.

iyaaliya:
There are exceptions to every rule. Yours was different but how many people can we count to be this lucky and you know we can’t use exception as a standard. My point is , I was in that embassy in April and I saw how peeps who went for birthing were denied cos of the payment. I saw one family who was asked to go get their complete documents and they will make a decision when the VO queried the amount. They said they paid much more and her hubby was ransacking their transparent folder looking for a receipt or document. So this payment thing get as e dey do them for body. Are they just angry that US gives this opportunity of automatic citizenship and they want to take it away with the other hand by now looking for bills above 10k dols or what?

TWoods:


I very much doubt the VOs are angry about birthright citizenships. I think the issue is there is no way you can pay $4000 for a full birth and someone somewhere isn’t picking up the slack. The typical American pays 3x that amount for the exact same procedure. Unfortunately they don’t have the luxury of “discounts” that Nigerians magically find. If someone else was coming to take advantage of your hard earned taxes, you’d tighten the rules too. The VOs are simply asking folks to pay the going rate for a normal birth.

Beautyaddy:


Right!

However, most women who have found themselves needing to pay the discounted birthing fees for birthing in the US tends to blame it on the hospitals that are offering them the discounts bills because they're paying in total cash.

So at times , the blame also has to go on the hospitals too.

seyewest:


I don't get why she's angry and mad at the forum. This forum has done far more good to a lot of people, you can't trash 5-6 yrs of knowledge because someone offended someone on this forum, we're all adult and normally I will keep quiet but thrashing our hard work is something I will not take, most time the advice on this forum is based on current trend and right now, birthing in U.S is dangerous and if you plan to do discounted birthing, you may end up not getting your visa renewed.
This forum is not the official U.S Embassy Nairaland forum this is clear before getting on the forum so why not go to the U.S Embassy forum instead of this forum. None of us worked with U.S Embassy but with the little we know, I believe we've changed a lot of life for better.

seyewest:


I don't get why she's angry and mad at the forum. This forum has done far more good to a lot of people, you can't trash 5-6 yrs of knowledge because someone offended someone on this forum, we're all adult and normally I will keep quiet but thrashing our hard work is something I will not take, most time the advice on this forum is based on current trend and right now, birthing in U.S is dangerous and if you plan to do discounted birthing, you may end up not getting your visa renewed.
This forum is not the official U.S Embassy Nairaland forum this is clear before getting on the forum so why not go to the U.S Embassy forum instead of this forum. None of us worked with U.S Embassy but with the little we know, I believe we've changed a lot of life for better.

Ebalu953:


In as much as i appreciate this forum, i wouldnt quite blame her for talking that way. The most annoying part is that people that dont even have an international passport talk more of leaving the shores of Nigeria, can just make irrelevant judgements based on what they read or talk anyhow. There are subtle ways of giving your opinions without hurting people. Things have changed at the us embassy. What works for A maynot work for B. There are no set rules in answering questions. Things are easier said than done on nairaland. When you get to the embassy you will understand that most times, you are not even given the opportunity to clearly express yourself, as you are interrupted or cut short during interviews. However, no doubt, birthing issues have been a major concern for the USA. If only they can set a standard on birthing prices and all then i don't think people would have problems renewing visas because honestly most people outside nairaland arent even aware they cant accept certain discounts.

TWoods:


I very much doubt the VOs are angry about birthright citizenships. I think the issue is there is no way you can pay $4000 for a full birth and someone somewhere isn’t picking up the slack. The typical American pays 3x that amount for the exact same procedure. Unfortunately they don’t have the luxury of “discounts” that Nigerians magically find. If someone else was coming to take advantage of your hard earned taxes, you’d tighten the rules too. The VOs are simply asking folks to pay the going rate for a normal birth.

Beautyaddy:


Right!

However, most women who have found themselves needing to pay the discounted birthing fees for birthing in the US tends to blame it on the hospitals that are offering them the discounts bills because they're paying in total cash.

So at times , the blame also has to go on the hospitals too.

TWoods:


I very much doubt the VOs are angry about birthright citizenships. I think the issue is there is no way you can pay $4000 for a full birth and someone somewhere isn’t picking up the slack. The typical American pays 3x that amount for the exact same procedure. Unfortunately they don’t have the luxury of “discounts” that Nigerians magically find. If someone else was coming to take advantage of your hard earned taxes, you’d tighten the rules too. The VOs are simply asking folks to pay the going rate for a normal birth.

iyaaliya:
I understand your point. I don't want to doubt that 4K payment for birthing and the fact that she got visa renewed afterwards since I wasn’t there so I am not even going to comment on that. My problem with the post is that it is making that as a standard for birthing and visa renewal while tryna rubbish some good works here. We all know 4K is not the standard, if you got it that low, we thank God for journey mercies, drop your testimony and go home in peace!

sharpman1:


As in.......is it compulsory to travel if one can't afford it?

How will you hustle 2m just to travel and become an illegal immigrant?

iyaaliya:
I taya. I have been following that posts and I don’t know why she is quick to use a single experience to talk down on a coalition of experiences here. While opinions must always always differ, you shouldn’t use a single experience of 4K medical bill to say peeps are just guess working when we have seen several other posters with close to 10k being denied and you want people to advise using your 4K standard??
Saying people carry US for head, people fear US nobody talks, when did we start pokenosing into other countries ‘s affairs. If you Cannot comply substantially, you stay in your house! I am not saying you cannot even challenge them, go ahead and give us feedback; shebi our lawmakers summoned them the other time but please don’t undermine the hard work of the contributors here and don’t make people think getting the visa is not ‘hard work’’.
This same country opened up their doors to you to have an automatic citizenship for your children, yet; someone will still come and say nothing dey happen. If they shut that door today, some of us will say thank God oh, I don born mine Comot yet; you don’t want to accept them as your ‘meal ticket’. Hypocrisy!
Even though I feel bad with the way they treat us at their embassies n POEs but if we don’t stop taking advantage of their seemingly friendly system, we are likely to continue to get that treatment unfortunately! We all know how many multiples they give other countries. Can we then say they are ‘irrational or unnecessarily mean’ to us? We will be addressed the way we present ourselves!

seyewest:


If it's true then she's truly lucky and I doubt she will get something like that again.

OmoBendel24:


The VOs may possibly not be angry about birthright citizenship with our people, but you lot NIGERIAN-AMERICANS ARE, so many of you and it's such a shame please! Is this plain pain, envy, or witchcraft? huh?

@the second bolded; We've heard this over and over, please, do tell who is picking the slack, make it clear and verifiable too, don't take us on a roller-coaster sir! And you just decide to blame Nigerians basically for the shortcomings (if that is even correct) of your health system they are still not aware of till now? Doctoresparatis Rep - Vlesparza - has been on NL debunking this notion of "someone else is paying for the shortcomings of these discounts", and none of you lot has been able to counter her with real and not imaginary facts. We're Nigerians not getting visas approved for them with quotes from these doctors and hospitals/facilities just in recent past? Tell us what the current situation is in CLEAR TERMS and I believe our people will adjust to such realities....

Generalkorex:
Can a USA passport be renewed in UK. Please I need urgent answer.
Thanks

OmoBendel24:


The VOs may possibly not be angry about birthright citizenship with our people, but you lot NIGERIAN-AMERICANS ARE, so many of you and it's such a shame please! Is this plain pain, envy, or witchcraft? huh?

@the second bolded; We've heard this over and over, please, do tell who is picking the slack, make it clear and verifiable too, don't take us on a roller-coaster sir! And you just decide to blame Nigerians basically for the shortcomings (if that is even correct) of your health system they are still not aware of till now? Doctoresparati's Rep - Vlesparza - has been on NL debunking this notion of "someone else is paying for the shortcomings of these discounts", and none of you lot has been able to counter her with real and not imaginary facts. Were Nigerians not getting visas approved for them with quotes from these doctors and hospitals/facilities just in recent past? Tell us what the current situation is in CLEAR TERMS and I believe our people will adjust to such realities....

Demicoker:
Go and tell Trump not to give me na .Assistant Trump on Nigeria USA travel matters

Rolly22:


Bros I'm having this same issues now I want to travel to the US but the [b]agent is saying I would be going in as someone who is going to purchase goods from a company a[/b]nd I'm not comfortable with it.

Rolly22:


Bros I'm having this same issues now I want to travel to the US but the agent is saying I would be going in as someone who is going to purchase goods from a company and I'm not comfortable with it.

fkj950ax:


This is the problem with using agents. They MISREPRESENT you to a nation with a system that thrives on Data Collection and Analysis.

Tomorrow you want to renew and your profile becomes HR Manager at XYZ for the past 8 Years.

If you aren't comfortable with it, walk away

TWoods:


Don’t throw away your chances of ever visiting the United States. Stay away from that agent.

Demicoker:
Go and tell Trump not to give me na .Assistant Trump on Nigeria USA travel matters