What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? - Family (7)

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Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by sisisioge: 2:42am On Jun 08, 2019

Hmmmm...I don't know too fa grin

Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by Ewuro4: 5:16am On Jun 08, 2019

This submission topic again in 2019, if you like submit, if you like don’t. You’re the one in a relationship. As you lay your bed you lie on it.

Don’t bother quoting me, you prolly won’t see this handle again for a while. Ciao!

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Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by jeff1607(m): 7:42am On Jun 08, 2019

most women do not understand the power they hold in the home,they don't know how to use it and keep the home front

A wife isn't a slave, she helps in decision making, provided solutions and she makes the understand her point of view (pray you have a wise and understanding man) ,same in a company the director listens to opinions and make him understand why their choice should be chosen,if they had two directors it means they ain't going forward.

Every man needs a peaceful home and one he can always come home to, give him that and see how the woman controls the home from the background even without the man knowing, thinking all the decision making are from him, our current crop of ladies want to lead , which is understandable but you allow yourself to be led hence the reason you choose a wise man for a husband, the moment you choose a fool for a woman know that you chose your downfall.

I don't know why women don't know that they hold more power at home, the pillars of a marriage or home is dependent on a woman, if she falls na wahala, when a wife falls ill, the home becomes something else ,it is then you see that those little effort you turn blind eye to are very relevant. some men can't make decisions without involving their wives.

A man goes to a car lot to choose a car for himself, but goes with his wife, he already has a car in mind but the wife can make him change his mind without quarrels for a car she likes and he buys it hence you see car dealers try to make the spouse of a potential buyer more comfortable than the man himself because they know she holds the power of choice, if she gets angry the husband won't buy from the dealer.

get a man who has wisdom and has family values , no two marriages are the same what works for you might not work for another.

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Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 9:35am On Jun 08, 2019

jeff1607:
most women do not understand the power they hold in the home,they don't know how to use it and keep the home front

A wife isn't a slave, she helps in decision making, provided solutions and she makes the understand her point of view (pray you have a wise and understanding man) ,same in a company the director listens to opinions and make him understand why their choice should be chosen,if they had two directors it means they ain't going forward.

Every man needs a peaceful home and one he can always come home to, give him that and see how the woman controls the home from the background even without the man knowing, thinking all the decision making are from him, our current crop of ladies want to lead , which is understandable but you allow yourself to be led hence the reason you choose a wise man for a husband, the moment you choose a fool for a woman know that you chose your downfall.

I don't know why women don't know that they hold more power at home, the pillars of a marriage or home is dependent on a woman, if she falls na wahala, when a wife falls ill, the home becomes something else ,it is then you see that those little effort you turn blind eye to are very relevant. some men can't make decisions without involving their wives.

A man goes to a car lot to choose a car for himself, but goes with his wife, he already has a car in mind but the wife can make him change his mind without quarrels for a car she likes and he buys it hence you see car dealers try to make the spouse of a potential buyer more comfortable than the man himself because they know she holds the power of choice, if she gets angry the husband won't buy from the dealer.

get a man who has wisdom and has family values , no two marriages are the same what works for you might not work for another.

Surely you think women are stupid that's why you can talk about the "so-called power " women have.

If women were so "powerful" , why do they have to seek the approval and permission of their husbands first?

The person with the real power is the person who approves; who has the final say.

Stop this lie abeg.It's old.

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Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by jeff1607(m): 9:45am On Jun 08, 2019

breakerofchains:
Surely you think women are stupid that's why you can talk about the "so-called power " women have.

If women were so "powerful" , why do they have to seek the approval and permission of their husbands first?

The person with the real power is the person who approves; who has the final say.

Stop this lie abeg.It's old.

what lie please?

if you have a man who respects you and your opinion and makes your happiness his priority you truly would understand.

women have been controlling men indirectly since time immemorial, wars have been fought because of the whims and opinions of women, favours have been granted to other people by the choice of their wives, employees have been sacked and promoted by influencing their husbands, some people can't get favor or listening ear from a man unless they go through his wife, haven't you heard words like "if you want make the man approve your contract,talk to his wife" just say you don't understand your man simple.

there are good and understanding men out there but your past experience and hatred for men won't let your mind be open same as there are bad men and women.

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Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by bukatyne(f): 10:15am On Jun 08, 2019

Ewuro4:
This submission topic again in 2019, if you like submit, if you like don’t. You’re the one in a relationship. As you lay your bed you lie on it.

Don’t bother quoting me, you prolly won’t see this handle again for a while. Ciao!

@bolded:

Jist did,.

When you return, you will see it.

Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by bukatyne(f): 10:21am On Jun 08, 2019

crackhaus:
The three options are coming from the woman, not the man. Either one, or a combination of two, will make every woman submissive without a fight.

The husband is the one bring the qualities to the table.

Ol

Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by 0neal(m): 11:28pm On Jun 08, 2019

...my people perish for lack of Knowledge.

Since God designed marriage, who's best to clarify our misguided intuition?

I believe in the inspiration of the Scripture given by the Holy Spirit; knowing sacred men will want to interpret the Bible out of context, verse 21 of Eph 5 is a disclaimer.

We seldom emphasize on the preceding verse 21 of the Letter Apostle Paul wrote to the Church in Ephesus "submitting to one another in the fear of God. Ephesians 5:21" before the individual admonition.

I don't want to go into renderings on the meaning of the original Greek word interpreted as "submit" and the Greek style of writing used by Apostle Paul under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

So what am I driving at?

Submission is not subjugation, Christain men Should focus on their part and love their wives like Christ loved his bride "the Church", and He gladly laid His life for her redemption.

The male-man is the head of the Family.
Head not to control, subjugate, oppress or even dominate but in terms of a "ranking order" for leadership, responsibility and accountability; God is Orderly

I believe a woman whose Husband is loving, leading her with the fear of God and Christ as a "REFERENCE" will effortlessly submit; (most women will).

With this mindset, peace and harmony will abound in every family.

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Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 9:37am On Jun 09, 2019

sisisioge:
Hmmmm...I don't know too fa

Madame, I sense you must be from Nassarawa or Adamawa. Always using Hausa terms in your communication. I hardly see you writing without using the word "Fa". Perhaps this is how you talk on a daily. Anyway, happy sunday to you.

Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by sisisioge: 2:29pm On Jun 09, 2019

truthsayer009:
Madame, I sense you must be from Nassarawa or Adamawa. Always using Hausa terms in your communication. I hardly see you writing without using the word "Fa". Perhaps this is how you talk on a daily. Anyway, happy sunday to you.

Its a new slang for me though....I used to be big on the word " biko". Anyways, I'm Nigerian and appreciate all languages. Cheers.

Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 3:04pm On Jun 09, 2019

sisisioge:

Its a new slang for me though....I used to be big on the word " biko". Anyways, I'm Nigerian and appreciate all languages. Cheers.

OK Fa.

Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by BuddhaPalm(m): 9:17pm On Jun 09, 2019

UyaiIncomparabl:
Tickle my senses, please. I really do not understand what SUBMISSION means, and perhaps, mightn't. Do we 'Women' have to be foolish and accept every whims you MEN throw at us? I cannot still fathom what that word entails.

Whoever coined out that word is SEXIST!
Is there a more subtle and clearer definition for it? Why were we 'WOMEN' ordered to only submit and inturn get only LOVE from you men? Love that will still wane? Isn't that selfish? I think both genders should equally submit to each other and love each other too. We crave respect and honour just as you men do too. SO, why does it only revolve around you people?

We are also egotistical just as men are too, so why is it one-sided? What is the need of submitting whole-heartedly when he will still cheat and keep numerous concubines? And please do not mention 'Polygamous in nature' here because humans generally are polygamous, not just men. We are also moved by what we see.

Married men and women, I need answers.
Cococandy
Ibkayee
CHoccolaTE
Pocohantas/Antibrutus
Acidosis
Mrsthang
Liberalchick
Safiaa
Sisisioge
PrimadonnaO
Bukatyne
Crackhaus/Crackhouse
and others..

Your contributions are highly welcome. Sentimental replies will not be appreciated.

It is because, in absolute terms, men are widely superior to women (in a abilities).

It might not be very politically correct to say this, but it's the truth.

On average, men are bigger, stronger, faster; more driven, resilient and dogged than women.

So as a convention, society wisely confers a higher authority to the superior sex.

Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by hazel01(f): 6:38pm On Jun 13, 2019

pocohantas:
Lol, I just do not understand these religious people sometimes. This is one reason I don't do them. I believe once you have common sense and a working conscience (i.e) treat people the way you would love to be treated, with fairness, everyone will be alright.

I do not need any holy book to tell me this. So, I fell out of organised religion. I have no regrets. I am not an atheist.

Don't tell me what your bible says, what is your brain/conscience feeding you? I can't stand that "the bible says..." makes me wanna kick someone down the stairs.

this is the point I have gotten to in my life. I'm afraid to tell people this or try to explain they start looking at me like a devil..... last last I don't think any Nigerian man is for me, they don't just get this.

Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by fcdgrand(m): 11:32pm On Jun 13, 2019

ephesians 5 : 22 - 33 good for your soul

Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by Magnoliaa(f): 3:24am On Jun 28, 2019

UyaiIncomparabl:
Tickle my senses, please. I really do not understand what SUBMISSION means, and perhaps, mightn't. Do we 'Women' have to be foolish and accept every whims you MEN throw at us? I cannot still fathom what that word entails.

Whoever coined out that word is SEXIST!
Is there a more subtle and clearer definition for it? Why were we 'WOMEN' ordered to only submit and inturn get only LOVE from you men? Love that will still wane? Isn't that selfish? I think both genders should equally submit to each other and love each other too. We crave respect and honour just as you men do too. SO, why does it only revolve around you people?

We are also egotistical just as men are too, so why is it one-sided? What is the need of submitting whole-heartedly when he will still cheat and keep numerous concubines? And please do not mention 'Polygamous in nature' here because humans generally are polygamous, not just men. We are also moved by what we see.

Married men and women, I need answers.
Cococandy
Ibkayee
CHoccolaTE
Pocohantas/Antibrutus
Acidosis
Mrsthang
Liberalchick
Safiaa
Sisisioge
PrimadonnaO
Bukatyne
Crackhaus/Crackhouse
and others..

Your contributions are highly welcome. Sentimental replies will not be appreciated.

This is what I think (I might not be able to phrase it well, but I hope you get it): It is some sort of compromise. Because, love. That is someone you LOVE (and not any other thing, or a misconception, misinterpretation, misrepresentation, 'mis-anything' of it) and why would you not want to do anything for them? Be sacrificial? Humble yourself before them? Put them first? (It's a union, not one of one being inferior/superior - so no taking advantage of or being played for a fool), put yourself beside their lead? Bring the self down to under another? It's how you see it.
Either as a strength, mastery over self, and a high path or otherwise.

It's just that it has been an abused command. It's nothing more than just order, organization, hierarchy, harmony, balance, giving and taking. Absolutely nothing there. Nothing hard to do (because it doesn't mean giving up one's will, or accepting of men's whims like you said and all that. That's why the command seem so hard to take in lol)

Reason why the subject causes so much misunderstanding is usually because of factors surrounding it. The kind of people in the relationship-who they are, the character of the man, the foundation of, reason for the relationship and what it constitutes.

What kind of man are you getting the love from in the first place? Is it all men's love that wane? What kind of man are you submitting to? Is it all men that cheat? Is it all men that are inconsiderate, 'backward', and like to play lord over their wives? Treating them as inferiors and a second class human?

Then you ask if it should only be about the man?

I'd ask you where you got that command from - is it from the Bible? If so, then the reason why submission was required of the woman would only be from there, and how God works, how He is. And you'd have to take that (because the command itself would be coming from the Book). And if you're a non-believer, all of that (the reasons) would make no sense to you. Pointless, it'll be.

If the command is from culture or any other place, I know nothing of that and can't speak on it.

Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by Magnoliaa(f): 3:30am On Jun 28, 2019

In addition, women alone were not the only one commanded on things to do (in the Bible)-- men also got a heap of commandments. Nothing is biased to the woman.

That's why I asked if you're drawing this question from the Bible.

But if from society, culture and environment around-- then those are biased towards women and it made the men 'free'.

Re: What Does 'submission' In Marriage Mean Exactly? by IamPlato(m): 9:29pm On Jul 29, 2019

UyaiIncomparabl:
To say I am equally lost is an understatement. I had to listen to a sermon lastnight, do you know this man kept saying, if you are not religious and do not serve in church, one cannot have a great marriage? It kept me thinking of those who have not visited nor served in church? Why is Christianity a pre-requisute to having a great marriage? The pressure of submission on Women is really getting to be a bore.

Are you an atheist?

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