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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:53am On Jun 22, 2019
forgiveness:
You can only ask these questions because you never watched Ronaldinho.

An half fit Ronaldinho won Brazil the world cup.

Ronaldinho did all those things and he did it with class.

Put Xavi in an average team, he will flop big time.
Ronaldinho never did those things as half as Xavi

He was a dribbling machine, but he was never a master of the field
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:54am On Jun 22, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
You can say we can not see close to their class but we have seen similar geniuses when it comes to tactical play. A host in Spain. Like Rodri, Silva, Mata, Thiago, Isco etc.
None of those player is close to them ,I will even agree with Silva

How can you mention Rodri just after one good season ? I tought you know better than this ,dem dey call player wey come close you dey call Rodri ?

Bucks say pep wan buy am you don run call him name

I think you know better than this
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:55am On Jun 22, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Does this make Xavi more technical than Ronaldinho?
If Xavi can pick a through pass through 7 players(technique)

Can combine with two to three players(technique)

And has great vision (technique)

How can you say Ronaldinho was a better technical player than him?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by iSlayer: 10:56am On Jun 22, 2019
ChrisKels:
A good team wouldn't afford them that chance to score that goal, as the Zims did. In fact, if the Zim right side was half as good as the left side, Mahmoud would have been subbed out before the goal. Knowledge Musona is a joke

Did u see what Khama was doing with their midfield and defense, only for his attackers to let him down?
Billiat tried his best. Quite the entertainer.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
andrew444:
Gifted on the ball also means dribble and to score goals and I think you might be rating Ronaldinho for that

How many times have you watch Xavi misuse the ball ?

No be Xavi wey dey create space for where space no dey ?

I don't think you watch Barcelona when Xavi was playing ,maybe you only focused on Ronaldinho
I started watching Xavi in 1997. Meridian Cup. Watched him grow and you think you can school me on Xavi. Funny.

By the way watch the sophistication of a young Oliver Torres. Sad because of his technical ability, he hardly plays as a midfielder now he is grown.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__z3eX9mWcE
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:57am On Jun 22, 2019
andrew444:
What average team did Ronaldinho play for ?

An half fit Ronaldinho won the World Cup ? Lol ,you sabi lie

When Brazil won the 2002 World Cup Ronaldinho was not the best player ,so what are you saying ?

Put Xavi in an average team he will flop ,am not even comparing Ronaldinho to Xavi ,it was the tactical issues we are talking about but you done turn am to Cr7 and Messi arguement

Stop making it look like Ronaldinho played for Everton or westham which are average clubs
PSG was an average club when Ronaldinho played them.

Why was he named in FIFA world cup all star team? Maybe na through oluwole Ronaldinho take get am.

We are talking about which player is more than technical and all the world knows Ronaldinho is far far more technical than Xavi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:58am On Jun 22, 2019
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:59am On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
If Xavi can pick a through pass through 7 players(technique)

Can combine with two to three players(technique)

And has great vision (technique)

How can you say Ronaldinho was a better technical player than him?
Personally, I do not rate passing as pure technique because it partly relies on the opponent. It is more classed as tactical display. If you pick a great pass and the team mate does not make the right move, it is useless. Unlike other skills which rely more on the players individual ability.

Jogging ball is technique. Ball control technique, flicks, technique. Solely dependent on the player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:59am On Jun 22, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
I started watching Xavi in 1998. Carlsberg Cup. Watched him grow and you think you can school me on Xavi. Funny.

By the way watch the sophistication of a young Oliver Torres. Sad because of his technical ability, he hardly plays as a midfielder now he is grown.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__z3eX9mWcE
Wetin consign this arguement and Oliver Torres YouTube video ? Just tell me
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:59am On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
If Xavi can pick a through pass through 7 players(technique)

Can combine with two to three players(technique)

And has great vision (technique)

How can you say Ronaldinho was a better technical player than him?
Ronaldinho can do all these with class. See evidence below.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuWeLBTJWw4
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake3: 11:00am On Jun 22, 2019
forgiveness:
It seems you don't know what you are talking about. You haven't seen any Ronaldinho after he retired but we are still seeing many Xavis till date.
Malcolm, Dembele, Douglas Costa all have bits of Ronaldinho in them in varying degrees
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:00am On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
Ronaldinho never did those things as half as Xavi

He was a dribbling machine, but he was never a master of the field
Maybe you never watched him play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by rabzy: 11:01am On Jun 22, 2019
andrew444:
Lol no mind am

Players like Xavi ,Pirlo ,iniesta to see their type go hard
You have mentioned two other xavi's type of player in the same generation. Can you get two others like ronaldinho in the same generation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by iSlayer: 11:01am On Jun 22, 2019
Jarus:
I agree. CIV is also a quality team.
Well, yeah.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:01am On Jun 22, 2019
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:01am On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
Malcolm, Dembele, Douglas Costa all have bits of Ronaldinho in them in varying degrees
Bit na small. Dey are never at Ronaldinho's level.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake3: 11:01am On Jun 22, 2019
forgiveness:
Ronaldinho can do all these with class. See evidence below.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuWeLBTJWw4
Are you comparing Ronaldinho to Xavi in terms of pass and vision?

Xavi can dribble too
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:03am On Jun 22, 2019
safarigirl:
Good morning

At the end of voting, it was decided by our threadmates that Ronaldinho is a more technical player than Xavi, havinf edged him out 13-9

Cc Mickael2, forgiveness, Andrew44, icon4s,islayer, elyte89, tbaba1234, AIG07, and other concerned parties
Thank you grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by cc12(m): 11:03am On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
Ronaldinho never did those things as half as Xavi

He was a dribbling machine, but he was never a master of the field
Zidane and Xavi who was a more complete footballer when it comes to technique because you just see Ronaldinho as a dribbler
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:04am On Jun 22, 2019
La Liga Boys!

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:04am On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
Are you comparing Ronaldinho to Xavi in terms of pass and vision?

Xavi can dribble too
You said he can't pick a through pass through 7 players, he can't combine with 2 or 3 players and he doesn't have vision but the video debunked your assertion. That's the point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:05am On Jun 22, 2019
forgiveness:
PSG was an average club when Ronaldinho played them.

Why was he named in FIFA world cup all star team? Maybe na through oluwole Ronaldinho take get am.

We are talking about which player is more than technical and all the world knows Ronaldinho is far far more technical than Xavi.
Bro Ronaldinho was one of the greatest player ever ,who know know that one ? I am not saying Xavi is better than Ronaldinho I am talking of tactical issue here and nothing else

What did Ronaldinho won or achieve at psg huhseems you said Xavi will not achieve nothing playing for those average clubs

Ronaldinho achievement was at Barcelona and not the average psg you are talking about

And please don't go to achievement as your next excuse o,because Ronaldinho didn't even have quarter of Xavi trophies ,you are so good at twisting arguement
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by iSlayer: 11:05am On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
You get a Ronaldinho in once every 10 players

But you get a Xavi in once every 100 players

Cc TheGoodJoe
Na true.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:07am On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
Ronaldinho never did those things as half as Xavi

He was a dribbling machine, but he was never a master of the field
Ronaldinho is a game changer but that can't be said of Xavi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by peterd53(m): 11:07am On Jun 22, 2019
See, I love ronaldinho as much as I love Messi but u can’t just overlook Xavi quality. D last time Barcelona won the ucl was Xavi final season. Xavi is d only player to have make 4 assist in a single el Classico game. Wat dinho will do in 10secs before taking a player out, Xavi will do it in 3secs with a single turn to take 3 or more out.

Go and watch Xavi euro 2008 performance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake3: 11:07am On Jun 22, 2019
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forgiveness:
You said he can't pick a through pass through 7 players, he can't combine with 2 or 3 players and he doesn't have vision but the video debunked your assertion. That's the point.
This is what I said



Can Ronaldinho dictate a game?

Is Ronaldinho's pass technique half as good as Xavi?

Does Ronaldinho have Xavi's vision

How good is Ronaldinho's combination with teammates?

Ronaldinho is good for those who watch football for the entertainment, but for those who watch football for the science, I prefer Xavi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by iSlayer: 11:08am On Jun 22, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Na wa. Technique has to do with on the ball ability. How does coming once every 100 years show Xavi was more gifted on the ball than Ronaldinho?

Is Xavi more gifted on the ball than Ronaldinho?
Impossible.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:08am On Jun 22, 2019
Mybettingtips:
England U21 2 - 4 Romania U21 grin grin grin grin grin grin grin



English boys dey chop am left and right. Imagine Romania flogging Dem 4-2. T. Abraham started from the bench again, subbed in d 77mins and restored parity in the 87mins. But could not rescue dem from another defeat. The England coach is stubborn, why bench ur most lethal striker in two matches now.
He is doing an Aigbogun. Trying to revive an ailing career(solanke) at the expense of proven ones(Abraham et al).
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 11:08am On Jun 22, 2019
elyte89:
U sha wan smuggle in ur olodo nacho


Tell us na grin grin grin
Nacho kwa?? Victor Ikpeba should come out from retirement and strike for us then. I'm just concerned about his health, i don't want to hear a terrible news, my heart can't take it.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:08am On Jun 22, 2019
peterd53:
Tell me one Xavi
Yaya toure, David Silva etc
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:09am On Jun 22, 2019
rabzy:
You have mentioned two other xavi's type of player in the same generation. Can you get two others like ronaldinho in the same generation.
Uncle iniesta is different from Xavi and everybody know this

I didn't tell you all of them are the same thing I am telling you that no player is their type now ,so don't come here and twist

You read what I said and I am sure you understand

Pirlo iniesta Xavi are different players and not the same and I have not seen their type now ,I even forget to put Paul scholes

Yes there is no Ronaldinho type now and so there is no Xavi type or any of those ones I mentioned and you might not see that in the next decade
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:09am On Jun 22, 2019
andrew444:
Wetin consign this arguement and Oliver Torres YouTube video ? Just tell me
You can see the Xavi quality is easier to reproduce than a Ronaldinho.
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