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Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by ozoebuka1(m): 10:32am On Jun 26, 2019
Beverlyjean:


ronaldo fans troll Messi should've been the title.... Hateful lots
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Nobody: 1:51pm On Jun 26, 2019
Beverlyjean:


Did anyone protest against it?? Show me facts... Ronaldo played so well in that game... He cordinated the team, hit the cross bar twice ... Goalie made two great saves .... Was just unlucky not to score... And u lie that he dint HV an assist... How did quaresma score.. hu assisted?? Messi on the other hand lost possession countless times ...missed a seater... Misplaced passes and was still awarded motm ... Argentine fans said it was undeserved...
Welcome back..

I watch both games and I know who performed better!!

If you watch the highlight of Argentina match, you will think Aguero performed better than Quaresma..

But Quaresma was the best player on the field in that 2017 match...
Ronaldo was not as effective as him at all...
Infact, I didn't remember that he made the assist (until you are reminding me from the clip you watched) because he was not in the game like Quaresma..

But FIFA handed Ronaldo the MOTM. Nobody complained to FIFA or protest to anyone like you are doing on Messi's award now!!...
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by theDEVILisHERE: 2:39pm On Jun 26, 2019
eni4real:
1958-1970?? Smh
It is a Pre-Competitive era abeg..

Also playing in Brazilian League all his life at Santos??

He was a FIFA classic player.. .

Deserved to be mention every 4 years when World cup is approaching.
Apart from that, he is not relevant in modern club football...

Once Messi destroy his 645 goals record for Santos, his name will never surface in any reference with European club football...

Messi is at 603 goals.. He will likely destroy that record next season or early coming seasons(I don't want to sound too sure of which season)!!!


Pele, Maradonna, Zidane, Ronaldo 9 and even Rinaldinho would always be greater than C Ronaldo and Messi

No amount of debate from their silly fans can change this fact
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Nobody: 2:43pm On Jun 26, 2019
theDEVILisHERE:


Pele, Maradonna, Zidane, Ronaldo 9 and even Rinaldinho would always be greater than C Ronaldo and Messi

No amount of debate from their silly fans can change this fact
Silly fans you say.
None of them is at the level of Leo and Cris...
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by theDEVILisHERE: 2:52pm On Jun 26, 2019
eni4real:
Silly fans you say.
None of them is at the level of Leo and Cris...

Pele era, people play matches with broken bones
You disrespect those players with your ignorance and lack of knowledge

Messi has the most stupid fans in history

Their stupidity is so bad it brings their coward midget bad luck

Whatever so called bad luck Messi has today his stupid fans are responsible for it

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Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Nobody: 2:58pm On Jun 26, 2019
theDEVILisHERE:


Pele era, people play matches with broken bones
You disrespect those players with your ignorance and lack of knowledge

Messi has the most stupid fans in history

Their stupidity is so bad it brings their coward midget bad luck

Whatever so called bad luck Messi has today his stupid fans are responsible for it
Midget you say?
Messi is taller than Maradona : tongue tongue

If Neymar dedicate all his career to Santos, he will destroy all the records held by Pele in the club for official goals. 645 goals is not too much for his ability vs those farmers!!

Pre Competitive era

Pele be like "I won 3 World cup.

Noooooo The whole talented Brazilian team won the World cups when USSR was still a great football nation...

Days when 16 teams compete in the World cup. Ki ki ki

African had no slot in those days. Lolz
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Nobody: 3:14pm On Jun 26, 2019
Beverlyjean:


Let Messi join another league and let me see whr all those goals will come from...look at how he is struggling to score a goal at the Copa...u think it's easy scoring in different leagues...the moment Messi leaves Barca , all those 50goals/ season will automatically dry up
Imagine that assumption!!!

If Messi join Man city today, he will score 50 goals a season

If Messi leave Barcelona after 2 seasons and join Bayern Munich he will still score 50 goals a season

If he want to seek a new challenge and move to PSG after 1 season in Bayern Munich, he will still score 50 goals a season!!!

Messi is only being loyal...

If he want personal glories, there are so many clubs that can give him provided that he keep moving from one all time best club in a League to another best clubs who can) has proven to have the capability to win the League without him...

It is easy that way...

If he do it in Ronaldo's way and leave Barcelona join Man city for 2 seasons while Guardiola is still there, leave Man city go to Bayern Munich for 1 season then finally seek new challenge in PSG, he will double all Ronaldo's record in just 4 seasons!!!!

I wish he can stop being loyal.. He will shock you like the way Guardiola shocked the whole EPL....

Egyptian Messi scored 44 goals in the EPL, destroying that 42 goals record set by Ronaldo. If the real Messi join Man city, he will destroy all the record set by Ronaldo in the EPL just in 2 Seasons.... He will erase it from people's memory in 3 seasons (How many goal is 118 total goals in 6seasons or 84 EPL goals, 1 Ballon d'or, 1 hatrick that Messi will not erase in 3 seasons?? tongue tongue)
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by theDEVILisHERE: 3:18pm On Jun 26, 2019
eni4real:
Midget you say?
Messi is taller than Maradona : tongue tongue

If Neymar dedicate all his career to Santos, he will destroy all the records held by Pele in the club for official goals. 645 goals is not too much for his ability vs those farmers!!

Pre Competitive era

Pele be like "I won 3 World cup.

Noooooo The whole talented Brazilian team won the World cups when USSR was still a great football nation...

Days when 16 teams compete in the World cup. Ki ki ki

African had no slot in those days. Lolz

Neymar can not be compared to Torstal let alone Jarzinho or Rivalinho

Best defenders today are no match for Baresi, Maldini and co

Best keepers today pale in comparison to chilavet, Kahn and co

There are practically no pure natural playermakers and strikers anymore

Competitive??

You're ignorant
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Nobody: 3:24pm On Jun 26, 2019
theDEVILisHERE:


Neymar can not be compared to Torstal let alone Jarzinho or Rivalinho

Best defenders today are no match for Baresi, Maldini and co

Best keepers today pale in comparison to chilavet, Kahn and co

There are practically no pure natural playermakers and strikers anymore

Competitive??

You're ignorant
Pele was active between 1958 and 1970...

That is not Maldini, Baresi Chilavert or Kahn era...

Stop misinforming the public...

Pele had the best teammates to himself in the Brazilian team when other nations have not developed in football..

It was a Pre-Competitive era..

Too easy

Easy mode. Days when Jose Fontaine was scoring 13 goals in 5 games of the world cup tongue tongue
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Beverlyjean(f): 3:27pm On Jun 26, 2019
eni4real:
Imagine that assumption!!!

If Messi join Man city today, he will score 50 goals a season

If Messi leave Messi after 2 seasons and join Bayern Munich he will still score 50 goals a season

If he want to seek a new challenge and move to PSG after 1 season in Bayern Munich, he will still score 50 goals a season!!!

Messi is only being loyal...

If he want personal glories, there are so many clubs that can give him provided that he keep moving from one all time best club in a League to another best clubs who can) has proven to have the capability to win the League without him...

It is easy that way...

If he do it in Ronaldo's way and leave Barcelona join Man city for 2 seasons while Guardiola is still there, leave Man city go to Bayern Munich for 1 season then finally seek new challenge in PSG, he will double all Ronaldo's record in just 4 seasons!!!!

I wish he can stop being loyal.. He will shock you like the way Guardiola shocked the whole EPL....

Egyptian Messi scored 44 goals in the EPL, destroying that 42 goals record set by Ronaldo. If the real Messi join Man city, he will destroy all the record set by Ronaldo in the EPL just in 2 Seasons.... He will erase it from people's memory in 3 seasons (How many goal is 118 total goals in 6seasons or 84 EPL goals, 1 Ballon d'or, 1 hatrick that Messi will not erase in 3 seasons?? tongue tongue)


Guadiola dint shock EPL... He won 2 CL with Barca in 3 yrs...but since he left barca after 2012 season... He hasn't taken the two teams he managed to the CL final... And that's what they Bayern wanted but he could not deliver ... Bayern had been winning leagues b4 he joined.... So it's of no surprise ... Mancity had also been winning leagues as well b4 he joined so he did nothing new.. klop is a better coach that guadiola because he carried a Liverpool team that couldn't compete with not so high transfer budget like man u , man city or Chelsea ... But has taken them to 3 European finals and also had the 3 highest points in EPL history , despite loosing 2 world class players to Barca...

U think if Messi joins man city , he will start to fire like say na only am de pitch... Don't forget Torres was brutal in Liverpool that could not compete for EPL and joined high scoring Chelsea... I'm sure people like u would HV been saying that he will double what he scored at Chelsea, but he ended up flopping ....

There is no guarantee that he will perform in city or psg .... Next thing is that u fans delusional fans will blame his team mates like Argentina


By the way...which one is Egyptian Messi... Guy u are mentally unstable and u don't know it... It's like Messi has made u mad
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Beverlyjean(f): 3:32pm On Jun 26, 2019
ozoebuka1:
ronaldo fans troll Messi should've been the title.... Hateful lots

Just like Messi fans trolled Ronaldo when silver was named player of the tournament...
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by theDEVILisHERE: 3:37pm On Jun 26, 2019
eni4real:
Pele was active between 1958 and 1970...

That is not Maldini, Baresi Chilavert or Kahn era...

Stop misinforming the public...

Pele had the best teammates to himself in the Brazilian team when other nations have not developed in football..

It was a Pre-Competitive era..

Too easy

Easy mode. Days when Jose Fontaine was scoring 13 goals in 5 games of the world cup tongue tongue

Some people would tell you Nation wide/Division 1 league in England is more competitive than the Premiere league

Competitiveness is relative

What matters is the quality
And those era (Pele's era inclusive) had far more quality than now

No so called competitive era would have 2 players sharing world best for a decade and counting while the other players struggle to measure up
And these 2 players are no were as skilled and talented as players of other era's

And their stupid fans would term them the greatest
Even when they both can't win a World Cup
And one a can't win even a spoon ?

Clowns
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Nobody: 3:38pm On Jun 26, 2019
Beverlyjean:



Guadiola dint shock EPL... He won 2 CL with Barca in 3 yrs...but since he left barca after 2012 season... He hasn't taken the two teams he managed to the CL final... And that's what they Bayern wanted but he could not deliver ... Bayern had been winning leagues b4 he joined.... So it's of no surprise ... Mancity had also been winning leagues as well b4 he joined so he did nothing new.. klop is a better coach that guadiola because he carried a Liverpool team that couldn't compete with not so high transfer budget like man u , man city or Chelsea ... But has taken them to 3 European finals and also had the 3 highest points in EPL history , despite loosing 2 world class players to Barca...

U think if Messi joins man city , he will start to fire like say na only am de pitch... Don't forget Torres was brutal in Liverpool that could not compete for EPL and joined high scoring Chelsea... I'm sure people like u would HV been saying that he will double what he scored at Chelsea, but he ended up flopping ....

There is no guarantee that he will perform in city or psg .... Next thing is that u fans delusional fans will blame his team mates like Argentina
Torres vs Messi?? Nice one!!!

Even Egyptian Messi destroyed Ronaldo's goal record in his debut season for Liverpool... 44goals.

With Messi under Guardiola guardians, all the passes and creativity of those talented group will just be flowing

Messi will get many VIP assists in that team., 50 goals a season is an understatement tho....

Klopp better than Guardiola?? as an EPL coach or as an overall coach??
Klopp and Guardiola are very close this season like 96%score for Klopp and 94% score for Guardiola. Because Klopp won the UCL against all odd. He coached Trent to make that pass tongue and Origi to do the Eder grin
But last season, Guardiola is like 95%score while Klopp was like may be 80% score based on performance at least Salah was on fire...

That is for their time in EPL
. Now overall career, Guardiola>>>>>>Klopp., Emphatic Yes!!! Klopp should win any kind of treble then we can talk about comparison!!!


Leo is the best ever in La Liga history
If he leave now and seek personal glory in 3 different leagues as outlined, he will definitely double Ronaldo's career records!!! Absolutely!!!
.
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Beverlyjean(f): 3:47pm On Jun 26, 2019
eni4real:
Torres vs Messi?? Nice one!!!

Even Egyptian Messi destroyed Ronaldo's goal record in his debut season for Liverpool... 44goals.

With Messi under Guardiola guardians, all the passes and creativity of those talented group will just be flowing

Messi will get many VIP assists in that team., 50 goals a season is an understatement tho....

Klopp better than Guardiola?? as an EPL coach or as an overall coach??
Klopp and Guardiola are very close this season like 96%score for Klopp and 94% score for Guardiola. Because Klopp won the UCL against all odd. He coached Trent to make that pass tongue and Origi to do the Eder grin
But last season, Guardiola is like 95%score while Klopp was like may be 80% score based on performance at least Salah was on fire...

That is for their time in EPL
. Now overall career, Guardiola>>>>>>Klopp., Emphatic Yes!!! Klopp should win any kind of treble then we can talk about comparison!!!


Leo is the best ever in La Liga history
If he leave now and seek personal glory in 3 different leagues as outlined, he will definitely double Ronaldo's career records!!! Absolutely!!!
.

Let him help Argentina first b4 helping others... 13 yrs now and he can't win anything with mighty Argentina... False prophet
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Nobody: 3:52pm On Jun 26, 2019
theDEVILisHERE:


Some people would tell you Nation wide/Division 1 league in England is more competitive than the Premiere league

Competitiveness is relative

What matters is the quality
And those era (Pele's era inclusive) had far more quality than now

No so called competitive era would have 2 players sharing world best for a decade and counting while the other players struggle to measure up
And these 2 players are no were as skilled and talented as players of other era's

And their stupid fans would term them the greatest
Even when they both can't win a World Cup
And one a can't win even a spoon ?

Clowns
Premier League and Division 1 was in Europe.. .

Pele played in the Brazilian League. He was a genius on the black but. Competition knock you off the ball and then you come back firing again...
Pele had no competition at all in that Brazilian League in 58-70!! No notable defender came up against him during those periods...
It was a Pre-Competitive era...

Top European leagues attracts talents from different part of the World, competition is more there...

Brazilian Leagues are for Brazilian and some South American neighbors...
Pele didn't get competition week in week out against the best talents of defenders... He was a golden boy...
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Nobody: 3:59pm On Jun 26, 2019
Beverlyjean:


Let him help Argentina first b4 helping others... 13 yrs now and he can't win anything with mighty Argentina... False prophet
Argentina failed in 3 Copa America finals before Messi debut!

I guess that is Messi's fault too?? grin

Messi don't hide!!!

If his national team make it to any final, he is ready to lose with the team

If his team has a penalty shoot out, he is always ready to be the first taker

If his team has a real tournament he never leave his teammates only to. Make cameo in the semi final...

He lose with the team...

May be one day, he will win with the team...

That is why he was able to win the World cup and Copa American Golden ball despite his national team loss in the finals... He never hide...

Cris has won international trophies with Portugal but he hide a lot when it matter MOST....

Most emphasized....

He never hide at club levels tho!!!
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Beverlyjean(f): 4:07pm On Jun 26, 2019
eni4real:
Argentina failed in 3 Copa America finals before Messi debut!

I guess that is Messi's fault too?? grin

Messi don't hide!!!

If his national team make it to any final, he is ready to lose with the team

If his team has a penalty shoot out, he is always ready to be the first taker

If his team has a real tournament he never leave his teammates only to. Make cameo in the semi final...

He lose with the team...

May be one day, he will win with the team...

That is why he was able to win the World cup and Copa American Golden ball despite his national team loss in the finals... He never hide...

Cris has won international trophies with Portugal but he hide a lot when it matter MOST....

Most emphasized....

He never hide at club levels tho!!!

U c the reason y I say u argue without facts... Now tell me how Argentina lost in 3 copa finals ...b4 Messi... U c the reason y I don't like replying u...

Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Nobody: 4:19pm On Jun 26, 2019
Beverlyjean:


U c the reason y I say u argue without facts... Now tell me how Argentina lost in 3 copa finals ...b4 Messi... U c the reason y I don't like replying u...
I apologize for that. I must have added 1990 World cup final to it.

That makes 2 final loss without Messi??

I am sure you can't blame Messi for these

The 2004 Copa America final was lost through penalty too. Messi has not even played under-20 World cup then, let alone making a debut in the Copa America!!!

Are those penalty miss Messi's fault too tongue??

The last time Argentina won the Copa America was 1993!!
And I can assure you that 1993- 2006 Argentina are their golden generations!! How come they won just 1 Copa America and was a disaster in the World cup(best stage reached was Quarter final in 2006 when they were defeated by Germany on penalty shootout again)... Messi did not play in that Match...

Those talented group crashed out of the group stage of the World cup in 2002!!!

Is that Messi's fault too?? tongue
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Beverlyjean(f): 5:07pm On Jun 26, 2019
eni4real:
I apologize for that. I must have added 1990 World cup final to it.

That makes 2 final loss without Messi??

I am sure you can't blame Messi for these

The 2004 Copa America final was lost through penalty too. Messi has not even played under-20 World cup then, let alone making a debut in the Copa America!!!

Are those penalty miss Messi's fault too tongue??

The last time Argentina won the Copa America was 1993!!
And I can assure you that 1993- 2006 Argentina are their golden generations!! How come they won just 1 Copa America and was a disaster in the World cup(best stage reached was Quarter final in 2006 when they were defeated by Germany on penalty shootout again)... Messi did not play in that Match...

Those talented group crashed out of the group stage of the World cup in 2002!!!

Is that Messi's fault too?? tongue

Whr did u see two finals lost?? Was Messi not in the 2007 squad that lost to Brazil in the copa final of 2007

They also won the confederation cup in 95

Portugal whr also trashed out in the group stage in 2002 ... Ronaldo helped Portugal to their first tournament final in history two years later... It was the same team that lost 2yrs ago in the WC...
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Blabbermouth: 7:53pm On Jun 26, 2019
Beverlyjean:

Can u describe the only type of goal Messi has scored in this Copa??
So football started with 2019 copa America.. This discussion is over.. Catch ya later
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Blabbermouth: 8:34pm On Jun 26, 2019
Beverlyjean:



Guadiola dint shock EPL... He won 2 CL with Barca in 3 yrs...but since he left barca after 2012 season... He hasn't taken the two teams he managed to the CL final... And that's what they Bayern wanted but he could not deliver ... Bayern had been winning leagues b4 he joined.... So it's of no surprise ... Mancity had also been winning leagues as well b4 he joined so he did nothing new.. klop is a better coach that guadiola because he carried a Liverpool team that couldn't compete with not so high transfer budget like man u , man city or Chelsea ... But has taken them to 3 European finals and also had the 3 highest points in EPL history , despite loosing 2 world class players to Barca...

U think if Messi joins man city , he will start to fire like say na only am de pitch... Don't forget Torres was brutal in Liverpool that could not compete for EPL and joined high scoring Chelsea... I'm sure people like u would HV been saying that he will double what he scored at Chelsea, but he ended up flopping ....

There is no guarantee that he will perform in city or psg .... Next thing is that u fans delusional fans will blame his team mates like Argentina


By the way...which one is Egyptian Messi... Guy u are mentally unstable and u don't know it... It's like Messi has made u mad
if u don't like Guardiola , just admit. Guardiola shocked his critics. He is converting EPl to a 2-horse race. When Guardiola conquers he conquers with his team tactics , strategies and philosophies. Never use the fact that he spent to Negate all he had achieved. when he arrived man city, he saw a team that needed overhauling, and those that couldn't play his brand of football. What is the highest signing Guardiola made? Did u calculate hw much zidane had spent for rea Madrid this transfer?? Did u know how much PSG spent to take in just 2 players.
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Nobody: 8:46pm On Jun 26, 2019
Beverlyjean:


Whr did u see two finals lost?? Was Messi not in the 2007 squad that lost to Brazil in the copa final of 2007

They also won the confederation cup in 95

Portugal whr also trashed out in the group stage in 2002 ... Ronaldo helped Portugal to their first tournament final in history two years later... It was the same team that lost 2yrs ago in the WC...

2 finals: Copa 2004 and Italia 90(World cup)!!!

The 2004 COPA was lost on penalty shootout against Brazil...

Messi has not even played in Holland Under 20 World cup that time...

Is that Messi's fault too??


I am asking those questions because someone here (I am not sure If it is you) said "Messi is the curse of Argentina"... I laughed at his ignorance!! grin
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Kfed4ril(m): 10:52pm On Jun 26, 2019
femi4:
Qatar, Japan etc are invited guest cos the no of countries in South America are 12. They needed 4 non South America countries to make up 16 teams of four per group for every tourney

Then why didn’t the pick pick from their not sir far neighbors, North America.
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by theDEVILisHERE: 12:24am On Jun 27, 2019
eni4real:
Premier League and Division 1 was in Europe.. .

Pele played in the Brazilian League. He was a genius on the black but. Competition knock you off the ball and then you come back firing again...
Pele had no competition at all in that Brazilian League in 58-70!! No notable defender came up against him during those periods...
It was a Pre-Competitive era...

Top European leagues attracts talents from different part of the World, competition is more there...

Brazilian Leagues are for Brazilian and some South American neighbors...
Pele didn't get competition week in week out against the best talents of defenders... He was a golden boy...

Brazilian and Argentine leagues were the best in the world then!!

like I said you are ignorant
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by femi4: 4:33am On Jun 27, 2019
Kfed4ril:


Then why didn’t the pick pick from their not sir far neighbors, North America.
They used to, especially Mexico used to be a regular guest but at the moment CONCACAF is having theie nations cup too
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Nobody: 12:20pm On Jun 27, 2019
theDEVILisHERE:


Brazilian and Argentine leagues were the best in the world then!!

like I said you are ignorant
What period of time exactly??
Your statements are blank
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Kfed4ril(m): 2:19pm On Jun 27, 2019
femi4:
They used to, especially Mexico used to be a regular guest but at the moment CONCACAF is having theie nations cup too
Ok
Thanks for the clarification
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by theDEVILisHERE: 9:48pm On Jun 27, 2019
eni4real:
What period of time exactly??
Your statements are blank

European league started becoming better than South American league late 70's

Before then only Real Madrid, Juventus could match them

South America had the best player in the world by a mile, very few play outside
Most were at Boca, River plates, Corinthians, Vasco, Santos, Indipendiente etc
Only notable star who played outside then was Di Stefano (R Madrid)
And he was even an Argentine reject

Even till the 90's Argentine and Brazilian was still among the best in the world

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Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Nobody: 10:06pm On Jun 27, 2019
theDEVILisHERE:


European league started becoming better than South American league late 70's

Before then only Real Madrid, Juventus could match them

South America had the best player in the world by a mile, very few play outside
Most were at Boca, River plates, Corinthians, Vasco, Santos, Indipendiente etc
Only notable star who played outside then was Di Stefano (R Madrid)
And he was even an Argentine reject

Even till the 90's Argentine and Brazilian was still among the best in the world

May be you mean in the 60's

I know that Man united was already strong in the 60's with the likes of George Best, Bobby Charlton, Dennis Law, Duncan Edwards which are Ballon d'or winners..

England was able to win the World cup in 66 with other British players. I think England has been very strong even in the 60's

Italy has been perennially strong too

Germany and Spain became golden probably in the 70's but Real Madrid has always been the best team with Kopa Di Stefano, Gento, and Puskas...

Europe attract more foreigners, more talent, more competition. That is how I interpret it...

It is possible to be great in South America but become limited in Europe because of the variety of football personalities you will come against...

Pele had all Brazilian in his pockets..... His talents is undoubted because of his performance in intercontinental cups tho...

But my opinion is that playing every week's against variety of players in a foreign League is difficult than playing at home...

Neymar would have won more and score more if he had played in Santos all his career.. . with less injuries

And if he was lucky with the World cup, he would have won the Ballon d'or. Since he would be constantly compared to Pele, not playing in Europe won't be a disadvantage..

Pele scored 645 goals for Santos, most by any club player... Messi is coming close at 603 goals...

Let's keep our fingers crossed...
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by theDEVILisHERE: 10:48pm On Jun 27, 2019
eni4real:


May be you mean in the 60's

I know that Man united was already strong in the 60's with the likes of George Best, Bobby Charlton, Dennis Law, Duncan Edwards which are Ballon d'or winners..

England was able to win the World cup in 66 with other British players. I think England has been very strong even in the 60's

Italy has been perennially strong too

Germany and Spain became golden probably in the 70's but Real Madrid has always been the best team with Kopa Di Stefano, Gento, and Puskas...

Europe attract more foreigners, more talent, more competition. That is how I interpret it...

It is possible to be great in South America but become limited in Europe because of the variety of football personalities you will come against...

Pele had all Brazilian in his pockets..... His talents is undoubted because of his performance in intercontinental cups tho...

But my opinion is that playing every week's against variety of players in a foreign League is difficult than playing at home...

Neymar would have won more and score more if he had played in Santos all his career.. . with less injuries

And if he was lucky with the World cup, he would have won the Ballon d'or. Since he would be constantly compared to Pele, not playing in Europe won't be a disadvantage..

Pele scored 645 goals for Santos, most by any club player... Messi is coming close at 603 goals...

Let's keep our fingers crossed...

"60's" ?@@=??

Maradonnas expensive move to Barcelona was the transfer that started it
Before then South American players don't see Europe as a destination
The economic downfall of South American countries contributed to this

They had the best players and they played home
Leagues with the best set of players would always be the league

European Cup aka champions league was not even known or recognized by people back then
South American league was the most followed and that's cause they had all the stars
Do u know how many people around the world became Boca juniors fans cause of Maradonna?
Even till early 2000's TV stations around the world still broadcasted their matches

Man U? lol
English league and teams were not really know or taken seriously till late 90's

European club football started gaining world wide popularity more in the 80's and that's cause Italy investing serious cash in club football , Serie A became a standard, the best

Before 80's only South American clubs had real worldwide fan base
Don't let modern day Satalite TV deceive you
For most people it was worldcup or they follow their favourite superstars (Maradonna, zico, societies etc) in their various clubs
Europe's individual talents were no match with exception of few (platini, Rumaniga, Paulo Rossi etc)

Do you know elclassico of back then was Boca juniors 's River plates??

Back then, Messi would have been just like a Di Stefano

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Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Beverlyjean(f): 8:52am On Jun 28, 2019
eni4real:


May be you mean in the 60's

I know that Man united was already strong in the 60's with the likes of George Best, Bobby Charlton, Dennis Law, Duncan Edwards which are Ballon d'or winners..

England was able to win the World cup in 66 with other British players. I think England has been very strong even in the 60's

Italy has been perennially strong too

Germany and Spain became golden probably in the 70's but Real Madrid has always been the best team with Kopa Di Stefano, Gento, and Puskas...

Europe attract more foreigners, more talent, more competition. That is how I interpret it...

It is possible to be great in South America but become limited in Europe because of the variety of football personalities you will come against...

Pele had all Brazilian in his pockets..... His talents is undoubted because of his performance in intercontinental cups tho...

But my opinion is that playing every week's against variety of players in a foreign League is difficult than playing at home...

Neymar would have won more and score more if he had played in Santos all his career.. . with less injuries

And if he was lucky with the World cup, he would have won the Ballon d'or. Since he would be constantly compared to Pele, not playing in Europe won't be a disadvantage..

Pele scored 645 goals for Santos, most by any club player... Messi is coming close at 603 goals...

Let's keep our fingers crossed...

U c the way u contradict urself... U say Messi is greater than Pele... U said Pele played for only one club that not moving to Europe made it easier for him to succeed cos moving to Europe would hv limited his chances like neymar... But on the other hand, u say Messi is the greatest of all time , the same Messi that has played for one club all his life like Pele... U are nothing but a biased hypocrite
Re: Qatar 0-2 Argentina: Messi & Co. Make Up For Their Poor Performances & Reach Qfs by Beverlyjean(f): 8:59am On Jun 28, 2019
theDEVILisHERE:


"60's" ?@@=??

Maradonnas expensive move to Barcelona was the transfer that started it
Before then South American players don't see Europe as a destination
The economic downfall of South American countries contributed to this

They had the best players and they played home
Leagues with the best set of players would always be the league

European Cup aka champions league was not even known or recognized by people back then
South American league was the most followed and that's cause they had all the stars
Do u know how many people around the world became Boca juniors fans cause of Maradonna?
Even till early 2000's TV stations around the world still broadcasted their matches

Man U? lol
English league and teams were not really know or taken seriously till late 90's

European club football started gaining world wide popularity more in the 80's and that's cause Italy investing serious cash in club football , Serie A became a standard, the best

Before 80's only South American clubs had real worldwide fan base
Don't let modern day Satalite TV deceive you
For most people it was worldcup or they follow their favourite superstars (Maradonna, zico, societies etc) in their various clubs
Europe's individual talents were no match with exception of few (platini, Rumaniga, Paulo Rossi etc)

Do you know elclassico of back then was Boca juniors 's River plates??

Back then, Messi would have been just like a Di Stefano

I have been mentioning this for a long time now... That in Argentina, Messi and Di stephano are on the same level... Great players that won so much for their European clubs but did little or nothing for country... And some fools even compare him with maradona .. some delusional fans even say he is better than maradona... I keep on saying that the Argentine fans don't even regard him amongst their top 5 greatest.... Maradona, Kempes, batistuta, cannigia, tevez because of that Boca factor

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