MarieSucre:


I just realised you said, you don't believe the pastor because you're Muslim. I'm sorry what does that have to do with this? What part of the Quran, hadith or siratul rasool supports this prejudice?

The Hadith is clear of the purnishment for a rapist
Unfortunately I we don't live in an Islamic state to obey those laws
If my girl child accuses an Alfa or pastor if rape I would do my utmost best that i seek justice for her.
Look,I am not supporting the pastor but there are some issues that don't hold cut it.
A rape of fifteen years
Who do u want to call as a witness that has a vivid memory if exactly what happened.
There was a case I read online about a man that was recommended for a position by Donald Trump's,and a woman came up laying claims she was molested by the man when they were in high school.all the witnesses she called could not recollect exactly what happened cus it happened a long time ago

Gbemishile1:

Oga,social media is not a court of law
Why would I come there

It doesn't matter where you will go, will you go out maybe 20 mins after the incident and go and tell your father, how a man held you down, pulled your trouser, spread your ass cheeks and pushed his long d!ck inside you? After that will you also go and write and statement about the particulars of the busting of your anus to up four police, each wanting to hear each detail how the man restrained you with force and bust your ass. Will you also strip naked in front of a doctor and spread your ass so that the doctor and put a long stick with cottonwool attached to the top to check for if the man left any sperm in your asshole?And then you you go back to prison and keep asking you, if you were really raped and if it's even possible to rape a man sef.

And then you'll go home to meet the religious man your parents brought to pray the gay away from you because they are not sure if the rape had only physical aspects sef. Then they'll start calling everyone in your family, starting from all your aunties, so that everyone is informed by the next family wedding you have to attend so that can sit with you and tell you sorry and ask you to tell them how the rape happened? Like did the man drug you while you were just chilling at bar thinking he was your paddy? Did he video it while he was thrusting into your asshole?

I mean we can go on. I'd like to hear how you'd handle that.

Gbemishile1:

The Hadith is clear of the purnishment for a rapist
Unfortunately I we don't live in an Islamic state to obey those laws
If my girl child accuses an Alfa or pastor if rape I would do my utmost best that i seek justice for her.
Look,I am not supporting the pastor but there are some issues that don't hold cut it.
A rape of fifteen years
Who do u want to call as a witness that has a vivid memory if exactly what happened.
There was a case I read online about a man that was recommended for a position by Donald Trump's,and a woman came up laying claims she was molested by the man when they were in high school.all the witnesses she called could not recollect exactly what happened cus it happened a long time ago

Again, what if YOU were raped.

KingAzubuike:
If I was fatoyinbo, I'd sue that idiot for defamation and blackmail. These women can be very devilish. They wait for you to be successful and popular before telling the whole world of a rape case that happened in 1945. There's no single evidence yet but see how people are already against an innocent fatoyinbo. God will fight for him.

But she has at least two witnesses who aren't members of her family.
Pst Wale- COZA Port Harcourt
Pst Folarin - COZA Lagos.
They can be made to testify in the case by the courts.

All this kind of thing is absurd and abnormal..
How can a married � woman with 3 children come out in the open to accuse a man of RAPE allegation..its totally unfair..
You mean you two have been discussing this on your before going to sleep every night planning how to tarnish the image of an innocent soul...
Hmmmmm...i say it is god that will judge you both..
Why didn't you cry out at that moment of the incident...
If at all it is true maybe because it was because he was still in the world then...
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MarieSucre:


Again you're giving all this expert advice from your years of experience being a rape victim?

There is a video on Wofai Fada's page, scroll down and also look for Adesuwa Etomi's comment and thousands of other women. All these women opened up about it to their parents, elder brothers, uncles. Most of them were met with dastard consequences, some of the people who they can even report to started assaulting and raping them too.

Oga you're a Jon Snow. Just assume you know nothing. You have zero range on the trauma on rape, and the stigma and shock that follows. Please I'm begging you to keep quiet and go talk to the victims instead of talking over them.

Even on twitter many men are opening up about their own assault and how they had to bury the memories because they were too painful to remember and that the courage of these women is helping them to talk about it.

I wonder what would happen if a bigger guy over-powered you, pulled down your trouser, spread your ass cheeks and busted your anus, whether you would fly out immediately the next and start telling everyone.

Think oga. Have sense. Peace.

Madam
I will speak to my family about it.
I owe it to them

KingAzubuike:
If I was fatoyinbo, I'd sue that idiot for defamation and blackmail. These women can be very devilish. They wait for you to be successful and popular before telling the whole world of a rape case that happened in 1945. There's no single evidence yet but see how people are already against an innocent fatoyinbo. God will fight for him.

Have you looked at it from another perspective that it could be true, may be when it happens to your daughter or sister, you would understand better

Gbemishile1:

Madam
I was once a class teacher to a girl in SS1 back then
It was during third term exams,she came in with her friend to submit her notes and u noticed she was Moody.i asked her what was wrong and her friend was like she didn't do well in the paper they had that day.she looked at her friend with cold eyes and then she turned to me that she would come and see me later in the day.
She came to see me the next day and told me she went for choir session in church where they closed around 11 pm in the night.she decided to pass a short cut and was waylaid by two boys who gang raped her that night.
I sat her down and talked to her about reporting to the police.she said her aunty had already done that the following day.
She actually repeated the class cus she wasn't in the right frame of mind.
I had to sit her down and counsel her,as she was saying she was getting disgusted at the mere sight of boys.i told her we are all humans with different behaviours.
There is no way you won't know a gurl that has been raped without her consent.
The behaviour would definitely change
You don't need the sisters revelation for that

Okay, that doesn't answer the question what you would if you were the one raped?

MarieSucre:

It doesn't matter where you will go, will you go out maybe 20 mins after the incident and go and tell your father, how a man held you down, pulled your trouser, spread your ass cheeks and pushed his long d!ck inside you? After that will you also go and write and statement about the particulars of the busting of your anus to up four police, each wanting to hear each detail how the man restrained you with force and bust your ass. Will you also strip naked in front of a doctor and spread your ass so that the doctor and put a long stick with cottonwool attached to the top to check for if the man left any sperm in your asshole?And then you you go back to prison and keep asking you, if you were really raped and if it's even possible to rape a man sef.

And then you'll go home to meet the religious man your parents brought to pray the gay away from you because they are not sure if the rape had only physical aspects sef. Then they'll start calling everyone in your family, starting from all your aunties, so that everyone is informed by the next family wedding you have to attend so that can sit with you and tell you sorry and ask you to tell them how the rape happened? Like did the man drug you while you were just chilling at bar thinking he was your paddy? Did he video it while he was thrusting into your asshole?

I mean we can go on. I'd like to hear how you'd handle that.

So the church setting confession is only for her family members to know right?
I will do what I feel is right,and I know the kind of parents I have.

MarieSucre:


Okay, that doesn't answer the question what you would if you were the one raped?

Madam I will report to my parents asap
Even from my disposition,Dem go know say something dey wrong
If the police no do anything,it will e on record that it was reported that same time

Abeg I wan sharply ask this question?why does it takes mama busola this long!!just to relate what happened when we still have upcoming fat-oyinbo.
Chai!! women this days go wait say make U turn global,make am,then they take their chances to�nab U with histories of past life

Carlyboi:
Tho what the girl did is quite wrong or evil but the guy self no try no be everytime person go dey form sharp guy na he obtained sex by trick and the girl been a virgin killed it for him next time he should just make sure they both wanted it or she wanted it more instead of getting into her head to get it!!!

Are you a learner. Most girls do pretend. Always portraying the saint role. Unbeknownst to you that they want it so badly. You just have to find the rhyme to get her move. Some would be very angry with you that you didn't make a move. Why would she agreed to kiss and romance with the guy without acknowledging the fact that sexual intercourse might arises. Women and dick are intertwined

You see that girl?
Her brain is in breast. That big breast on her chest.

MarieSucre:


Who cares where he is at in life? Nigerians worship wealth too much. Explains why our politicans get away with anything because they're "rich and famous" like you said.

If someone is guilty, it shouldn't matter their financial situation, they should be brought to book.

Some naive and gullible ones will believe she wouldn't have speak up if he's not who he is today. I'm not in any form in support of her. We do not know what haf transpired 15 years ago. But justice can be serve irrespective of the suspect status.

KingAzubuike:

That's it bro.. I've been a victim of something close before so I know what I'm saying. Mine happened at my place of work. There was this lady who was fond of talking dirty things and saying thrash. A day like that rain was falling then she was like "this weather is for two o". Jokingly I told her I was available to make it a weather for two for her. She even laughed about it. 3 weeks later we had a disagreement over some missing documents which led to us not talking for days and could you believe she flashed back to the " weather for two" stuff and started telling my colleagues I was making sexual advances at her and wanted to sleep with her? ..I was so dumbfounded and shocked.

Today I've left.the job since more than 10 years now and a successful entrepreneur. I'm sure if she has the chance to prey on me again she will. After the devil, women comes next. It takes a whole lot to deceive Adam and condemn him just by manipulating him to eat a forbidden fruit.

My dear your story is akin to mine.

Remembered how a single mother of 3 that was a cook in my former place of work was making making advances at me but I rejected her. The next thing she did was to accuse me of having affairs with my female student. Can you believe the school management belived her and called me to panel?
She even framed that I best her up. Dressing herself with bandages and GV all over.
I won the case flawless but still resigned.
I was 100% disappointed in the school management. How could they believe such an illiterate?
How could they even employ a single mum of three sef to cook for the boarders?
Well it's all past now coz 2 years after, am now a successful business man.
#fear women

KingAzubuike:

That's it bro.. I've been a victim of something close before so I know what I'm saying. Mine happened at my place of work. There was this lady who was fond of talking dirty things and saying thrash. A day like that rain was falling then she was like "this weather is for two o". Jokingly I told her I was available to make it a weather for two for her. She even laughed about it. 3 weeks later we had a disagreement over some missing documents which led to us not talking for days and could you believe she flashed back to the " weather for two" stuff and started telling my colleagues I was making sexual advances at her and wanted to sleep with her? ..I was so dumbfounded and shocked.

Today I've left.the job since more than 10 years now and a successful entrepreneur. I'm sure if she has the chance to prey on me again she will. After the devil, women comes next. It takes a whole lot to deceive Adam and condemn him just by manipulating him to eat a forbidden fruit.

Coming from a man who pose as Female online.. This shows the kind of person you are and the kind of "entrepreneur" you are into. .Shame.

Gbemishile1:


Madam I will report to my parents asap
Even from my disposition,Dem go know say something dey wrong
If the police no do anything,it will e on record that it was reported that same time

Thank God you said you know the kind of parents you have.

I have advised you to go to Wofai Fada's page and see the the replies of other people's parents, even Adesuwa Etomi's aunt. When you do that, you can come and back and we can continue this conversation.

Sluacoast:

Are you a learner. Most girls do pretend. Always portraying the saint role. Unbeknownst to you that they want it badly. You just have to find the rhyme to get her move. Some would be very angry with you that you didn't make you. Why would she agreed to kiss and romance without acknowledging the fact that sexual intercourse might arises. Women and dick are intertwined

are you so slow?dont you know that a nigga has to be most careful as far as sex with naija girls are concerned especially an SU virgin as he described her the girl felt used due to lack of attention but what made it worse for him is cos he deflowered her it would take a girl which the devil as personally anointed to claim a guy who never had Sex with her deflowered her you get it now?not saying the girl is right but the dude put himself in a very bad situation cos the girl felt chanced if he wasn’t playing sharp guy on his way to get into the girls pant I won’t have blamed him at all so next time it shd be a case of the girl wanting it or even begging or pestering him for it or wanting it more then watch the kinda thunder that will fire her if she turn around to claim rape or abuse or manipulation cos no matter how you look at it from what the guy said the girl wasn’t ready for sex as at the time he initiated and chances are she wud have stayed a virgin if she hadn’t come across him.....in essence guys shd play safe cos girls can be really childish or fickle minded so it’s best to avoid putting yourself in a bad situation most girls or a lot of girls still has this sex after marriage mentality so for her losing it like that to a guy she thought didn’t really care or used her messed her up not saying whatever she did is right tho but guys shd use their brain more sometimes

Carlyboi:
are you so slow?dont you know that a nigga has to be most careful as far as sex with naija girls are concerned especially an SU virgin as he described her the girl felt used due to lack of attention but what made it worse for him is cos he deflowered her it would take a girl which the devil as personally anointed to claim a guy who never had Sex with her deflowered her you get it now?not saying the girl is right but the dude put himself in a very bad situation cos the girl felt chanced if he wasn’t playing sharp guy on his way to get into the girls pant I won’t have blamed him at all so next time it shd be a case of the girl wanting it or even begging or pestering him for it or wanting it more then watch the kinda thunder that will fire her if she turn around to claim rape or abuse or manipulation cos no matter how you look at it from what the guy said the girl wasn’t ready for sex as at the time he initiated and chances are she wud have stayed a virgin if she hadn’t come across him.....in essence guys shd play safe cos girls can be really childish or fickle minded so it’s best to avoid putting yourself in a bad situation most girls or a lot of girls still has this sex after marriage mentality so for her losing it like that to a guy she thought didn’t really care or used her messed her up not saying whatever she did is right tho but guys shd use their brain more sometimes

In essence of your epistle. What are you implying. Are you trying to say the dude did the wrong thing in persuading her. No one should be blame for their sexual escapade. The girl willingly gave herself to him not as if he forcefully had his way into her. This one no be rape o.

Sluacoast:

In essence of your epistle. What are you implying. Are you trying to saying the dude did the wrong thing in persuading her. No one should be blame for their sexual escapade. The girl willingly gave herself to him not as if he forcefully had his way into her. This one no be rape o.

Never said it’s rape bro re-read my comments again and read in between the lines.ciao.

MarieSucre:


Thank God you said you know the kind of parents you have.

I have advised you to go to Wofai Fada's page and see the the replies of other people's parents, even Adesuwa Etomi's aunt. When you do that, you can come and back and we can continue this conversation.

I do not need to
Any sensible parents ought to know what to do in circumstances like this.what is the purpose of family if you can not be protected as a child.
The thing we dey kill us for naija be say we dey always thik say na man of God so he shouldn't be persecuted.
If a parent does not know the right thing to do in this circumstances,then am sorry they are not fit to be called parents.
If you have your own child,God forbid,she was raped
Will u keep quiet because the person is a man of God

Gbemishile1:

I do not need to
Any sensible parents ought to know what to do in circumstances like this.what is the purpose of family if you can not be protected as a child.
The thing we dey kill us for naija be say we dey always thik say na man of God so he shouldn't be persecuted.
If a parent does not know the right thing to do in this circumstances,then am sorry they are not fit to be called parents.
If you have your own child,God forbid,she was raped
Will u keep quiet because the person is a man of God

You don't need to read stories of real rape victims but still insist on your own hypothetical story that has not happened that is crafted by you and non-rape victim.

Make that make sense oga!

MarieSucre:


You don't need to read stories of real rape victims but still insist on your own hypothetical story that has not happened that is crafted by you and non-rape victim.

Make that make sense oga!

Well,let's put it simply then
You don't believe me as much as I dont believe all that crap

If u have a daughter please do have some decency to fight for her rights when she want you to.
Or she ends up resenting u more than the culprit

omonla10:
The painful thing is word 'rape' is too ambiguous. Technically, 90 percent of sexually active guys have raped a lady at point or the other..

Most ladies for the first time say the don't want sex and at the end of the day enjoy if more than d guys sef.

Some ladies, after eating shawarma and pizza, follow guys into D hotel room. And start forming celibate.. Are those ones rape victims too..

Even our wives at home sef, sometimes they claim not in d mood or don't want it, yet, things happen.
Rape is real, i admit it. But I feel some ladies exploit d ambiguity of the crime, plus the greatness of the man to plot their downfall..

In all these, the pastor is guilty if not of rape, but for being a black sheep in the midst of those we look up to as a men of God

Even if she eats all your shawarma and pizza,you still have to ask for her consent. Her No is a No

Gbemishile1:

Well,let's put it simply then
You don't believe me as much as I dont believe all that crap

If u have a daughter please do have some decency to fight for her rights when she want you to.
Or she ends up resenting u more than the culprit

Please don't be emotional here. I did not say anything about "belief" here. I said simply, how does it make sense, that you disregard real stories backed by real experiences for your own non-story and non-existent experience.

Do you also argue with doctors, lawyers and soldiers about their experiences, and how you would done things differently if you were the one in the surgical theatre with that pure or death situation, in the courtroom with the tough case or on the war front?

Make it make sense oga.

MarieSucre:


Please don't be emotional here. I did not say anything about "belief" here. I said simply, how does it make sense, that you disregard real stories backed by real experiences for your own non-story and non-existent experience.

Do you also argue with doctors, lawyers and soldiers about their experiences, and how you would done things differently if you were the one in the surgical theatre with that pure or death situation, in the courtroom with the tough case or on the war front?

Make it make sense oga.

If every lawyer were to be like you,then you would sentence every alleged culprit to jail based on the allegations of a woman.talk about sentiments
She should be getting her witnesses and lawyers ready to sue hus ass
We can only show 'outpouring' love as her husband has stated it.we can't help her heal or sue the pastor

Gbemishile1:

If every lawyer were to be like you,then you would sentence every alleged culprit to jail based on the allegations of a woman.talk about sentiments
She should be getting her witnesses and lawyers ready to sue hus ass
We can only show 'outpouring' love as her husband has stated it.we can't help her heal or sue the pastor

This has nothing to do with what I asked you oga. How do you use your non-experience on rape to be speaking authoritatively over actual rape victims?

Gbemishile1:

If every lawyer were to be like you,then you would sentence every alleged culprit to jail based on the allegations of a woman.talk about sentiments
She should be getting her witnesses and lawyers ready to sue hus ass
We can only show 'outpouring' love as her husband has stated it.we can't help her heal or sue the pastor

Come is it not even you that said, you don't believe the pastor because you're a Muslim.

You have not addressed that yet?

MarieSucre:


This has nothing to do with what I asked you oga. How do you use your non-experience on rape to be speaking authoritatively over actual rape victims?

Madam,it's left to you to report when a rape is fresh or you keep silent
Stop flooding our minds after ten or fifteen years that you were raped
Of what benefit would it be to us social media viewers?
There's a cas of a sixteen year old girl who put up a resistance to rape,but was overpowered.she quickly reported to the police and he was arrested.thats a girl with sense

sluacoast:
Are you a learner. Most girls do pretend. Always portraying the saint role. Unbeknownst to you that they want it badly. You just have to find the rhyme to get her move. Some would be very angry with you that you didn't make you. Why would she agreed to kiss and romance without acknowledging the fact that sexual intercourse might arises. Women and dick are intertwined

booksrite001:

I'm too dumb to understand that emoji. Pls be more specific