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Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 7:41pm On Jul 04, 2019
solite3:
before you start deceiving people, do you have the Spirit of Jesus Christ?
Well if i don't have it, at least you do so keep exhibiting the fruitage of that spirit Sir. Galatians 5:22-23
Jesus said BY THEIR FRUIT you will recognize those possessing that spirit, Jesus never said by interrogations! Matthew 7:15-20
God bless you Sir!
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 7:44pm On Jul 04, 2019
Maximus69:
Well if i don't have it, at least you do so keep exhibiting the fruitage of that spirit Sir. Galatians 5:22-23
Jesus said BY THEIR FRUIT you will recognize those possessing that spirit, Jesus never said by interrogations! Matthew 7:15-20
God bless you Sir!
simple question you are in jettery, yet you are offering someone what you yourself dont have. Leading people astray.
Without the tree there will be no fruit.
Answer my question
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 7:44pm On Jul 04, 2019
Do you have the Spirit of Jesus Christ?
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 7:51pm On Jul 04, 2019
solite3:
answer my question? Do you have the Spirit of Jesus Christ?
Galatians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Jehovah false witness preaching what the apostles did not preach.
Hmmm,
If you continue this way, you'll push all interested persons to Jehovah's Witnesses with your attitude!

Remember your arrogance and ego is jeopardising all your effort to make disciples for Jesus as you want to in your neighbourhood, i'm just returning from visiting those who have booked me for free personal home Bible studies.

So don't allow lack of self control to ruin your chances of making disciples now on faceless social media again!

You can perform better than this for Jesus.
God bless you Sir!
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 8:09pm On Jul 04, 2019
Maximus69:
Hmmm,
If you continue this way, you'll push all interested persons to Jehovah's Witnesses with your attitude!

Remember your arrogance and ego is jeopardising all your effort to make disciples for Jesus as you want to in your neighbourhood, i'm just returning from visiting those who have booked me for free personal home Bible studies.

So don't allow lack of self control to ruin your chances of making disciples now on faceless social media again!

You can perform better than this for Jesus.
God bless you Sir!
Look at how you are dodging the question.
Answer the question.
Do you have the Spirit of Jesus Christ?
Does the bible not tell you to be prepared to answer question concerning your faith? Why are you avoiding it?
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Trizyd(m): 8:14pm On Jul 04, 2019
LilMissFavvy:
Truth is always bitter. Even in a hundred years to come you will never find an article on this religion section that calls on men to love their wives. You will continue to see piles of articles that teaches women to submit. Scriptures are quickly used to manipulate the truth. It shall be well.
Please write one, we can make us have sense.. Or you think you can't?
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by LilMissFavvy(f): 8:15pm On Jul 04, 2019
Sure I can.
Trizyd:
Please write one, we can make us have sense.. Or you think you can't?
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Trizyd(m): 8:24pm On Jul 04, 2019
LilMissFavvy:
Sure I can.
Then do that, I guess nothing is stopping you. It's quite true there are few articles and write ups about how a man should behave. So if you truly see it that way, be the first and write something.
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by alBHAGDADI: 8:54pm On Jul 04, 2019
Maximus69:
Well if i don't have it, at least you do so keep exhibiting the fruitage of that spirit Sir. Galatians 5:22-23
Jesus said BY THEIR FRUIT you will recognize those possessing that spirit, Jesus never said by interrogations! Matthew 7:15-20
God bless you Sir!
Nobody has asked you about the fruits of the spirit. What you are asked is if you have the Holy Spirit which is the Tree that produces those fruits.

You have been dodging that question because you don't have the Holy Spirit, and therefore your claim of having the fruits is false. You are only faking the fruits. Satan does same too.

2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 10:02pm On Jul 04, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Nobody has asked you about the fruits of the spirit. What you are asked is if you have the Holy Spirit which is the Tree that produces those fruits.

You have been dodging that question because you don't have the Holy Spirit, and therefore your claim of having the fruits is false. You are only faking the fruits. Satan does same too.

2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Haaaaaaa!

For Christ's sake, abeg make una come helep this Pharisee ooo!

Satan fit do wetin? embarassed

Abeg go sleep Sir, because you no know wetin you dey yan.

The FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit that only those having the Spirit of truth can produce{ John 14:17} this man claims that Satan whom Jesus clearly said 'the truth is NOT in him' can also produce! John 8:44 embarassed

So if Satan can produce the fruitage of God's holy spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} please tell me why God is going to destroy Satan and his agents? Galatians 5:19-21
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 10:25pm On Jul 04, 2019
solite3:
Look at how you are dodging the question.
Answer the question.
Do you have the Spirit of Jesus Christ?
{{{{{{Does the bible not tell you to be prepared to answer question concerning your faith?}}}}}} Why are you avoiding it?
Of course the Bible admonishes TRUE Christians to defend their faith with efficacy and mildness of spirit! 1Peter 3:15

And Jesus also said Christians will be interrogated by fierce inquisitors due to their faith! Matthew 10:19

So let's assume we're acting a movie now!

Please help all followers on this thread to distinguish between you and i,

Who acts as the Christian facing fierce interrogations!

and

Who acts as the fierce inquisitor!

Then i will answer your question straight up! smiley
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by alBHAGDADI: 10:27pm On Jul 04, 2019
Maximus69:
Haaaaaaa!

For Christ's sake, abeg make una come helep this Pharisee ooo!

Satan fit do wetin? embarassed

Abeg go sleep Sir, because you no know wetin you dey yan.

The FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit that only those having the Spirit of truth can produce{ John 14:17} this man claims that Satan whom Jesus clearly said 'the truth is NOT in him' can also produce! John 8:44 embarassed

So if Satan can produce the fruitage of God's holy spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} please tell me why God is going to destroy Satan and his agents? Galatians 5:19-21
Olodo.

Satan is not producing the fruit but faking it. He only a talk like it but never what he pretends to be. That's exactly what you are doing. Satan your father has been imitating God eight from time, so it shouldn't be a big issue when his children do like him.
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 10:35pm On Jul 04, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Olodo.

Satan is not producing the fruit but faking it. He only a talk like it but never what he pretends to be. That's exactly what you are doing. Satan your father has been imitating God eight from time, so it shouldn't be a big issue when his children do like him.
Great!

Satan FAKES the FRUIT!

Wow, that's incredible Sir!

So as a REAL born again Christian, i suppose you possess the REAL FRUIT.

Please Sir can you just present as in exhibit the ORIGINAL so that all observers can SEE the clear difference between the FAKE and the ORIGINAL fruit?
Since you're well acquainted with both! wink
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 10:52pm On Jul 04, 2019
Maximus69:
Of course the Bible admonishes TRUE Christians to defend their faith with efficacy and mildness of spirit! 1Peter 3:15

And Jesus also said Christians will be interrogated by fierce inquisitors due to their faith! Matthew 10:19

So let's assume we're acting a movie now!

Please help all followers on this thread to distinguish between you and i,

Who acts as the Christian facing fierce interrogations!

and

Who acts as the fierce inquisitor!

Then i will answer your question straight up! smiley
smh
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 6:27am On Jul 05, 2019
solite3:
smh
OH sorry for leaving yesterday, i slept off! Ecclesiastes 3:1

So are you ready to be the director of our stage play?

Choose who should acts the part of a

*Christian facing fierce interrogations

and

*The antagonistic inquisitor

Please do this and i will be obliged to participate in the theater art, whatever question you throw at me by then will be answered without delay. Matthew 10:19

God bless you Sir! smiley
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by alBHAGDADI: 9:41am On Jul 05, 2019
Maximus69:
Great!

Satan FAKES the FRUIT!

Wow, that's incredible Sir!

So as a REAL born again Christian, i suppose you possess the REAL FRUIT.

Please Sir can you just present as in exhibit the ORIGINAL so that all observers can SEE the clear difference between the FAKE and the ORIGINAL fruit?
Since you're well acquainted with both! wink
I don't need to do that because Nairalanders already know who I am. They have seen my threads and the truth I preach.

You are the one hopping from thread to thread and boasting of how you and your Jehovah's False Witness brothers are the only ones with the fruits of the Holy Spirit, whereas you lack the Holy Spirit which is the tree that produces the fruit.
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 10:58am On Jul 05, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
I don't need to do that because Nairalanders already know who I am. They have seen my threads and the truth I preach.

You are the one hopping from thread to thread and boasting of how you and your Jehovah's False Witness brothers are the only ones with the fruits of the Holy Spirit, whereas you lack the Holy Spirit which is the tree that produces the fruit.
Great!

If you're sure of that, then rejoice because your name has been inscribed in heaven,but if not then try to improve.

God bless you Sir!
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Kamani8: 12:34pm On Jul 05, 2019
LilMissFavvy:
Apart from the Holy Bible, i have never seen an article or books that teach or command men to love their wives. It is always piles of books/articles teaching women to submit. Successful marriages can be better achieved if men know how to treat their wives.
End of thread my dear. You said it all
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 12:37pm On Jul 05, 2019
Kamani8:
End of thread my dear. You said it all
This thread is not for debate. The word of God is yes and Amen.
The op speak the truth which you dont like but it is God's truth not your own.
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 12:38pm On Jul 05, 2019
Maximus69:
OH sorry for leaving yesterday, i slept off! Ecclesiastes 3:1

So are you ready to be the director of our stage play?

Choose who should acts the part of a

*Christian facing fierce interrogations

and

*The antagonistic inquisitor

Please do this and i will be obliged to participate in the theater art, whatever question you throw at me by then will be answered without delay. Matthew 10:19

God bless you Sir! smiley
stop quoting me. I have serious things to attend to
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 1:39pm On Jul 05, 2019
solite3:
stop quoting me. I have serious things to attend to
L E A V E THE FORUM Sir! cheesy

Jesus quoted God's word and to expose misleading expressions! Matthew 5:43

This is about Jesus {the light} and everyone participating here must be prepared to be quoted and for counter comments!

It's about the LIGHT and all those who can't withstand the light, perhaps due to their dirty linen don't come close to it Sir! John 1:9,3:19 wink
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by LilMissFavvy(f): 2:23pm On Jul 05, 2019
Sure! Truth is bitter, let them continue to preach half baked scriptures to suit the itching ears of their believers.
Kamani8:
End of thread my dear. You said it all
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 2:48pm On Jul 05, 2019
The Loyal Wife Of John Bunyan

The Wife of Bunyan

Taken from the book entitled, Heroines of the Faith, early 1900’s

The influence for good which a woman can exert in shaping the life and character of her husband has never been more strikingly shown than in the case of John Bunyan. It is well known that as a youth he was wild and reckless, the leader in all mischief, and a terrible swearer; "enough," as one woman told him, "by his example to spoil the youth of the whole town."

He was not, however, altogether bad, and his conscience frequently reproached him for his wild ways; but it remained for his wife to stir up the good qualities of his nature, which lay dormant.

When just verging on manhood he married a young woman, of whom we know very little beyond the fact that she was "born of good, honest, godly parents, who had instructed her as well as they were able in the ways of truth and saving knowledge." The young couple settled down at Elstow, near Bedford, where Bunyan worked as a tinker. They were very poor, "not having so much household stuff as a dish or a spoon betwixt them." The wife, however, had two good books, which her father had given her—The Plain Man's Pathway to Heaven, and The Practice of Piety. These she persuaded her husband to read, and he was thus awakened to a full knowledge of the wickedness of his past life.

The struggle between good and evil which followed was long and severe. Gradually he gave up his bad ways, till at length he became a Christian. Throughout his conflict he was sustained and comforted by the devotion of his wife. She, however, only lived to see the fulfillment of her hopes and desires, for about 1656 she died, leaving two sons and two daughters, one of whom was blind.

Bunyan was now called by the brethren of the Baptist Church at Bedford to preach in the villages round about. The earnestness of his words carried conviction to his hearers, and crowds flocked to hear him.

In 1659 Bunyan married again. More is known of his second wife, Elizabeth; she is described as being equal in piety to the first, but of greater intelligence and fortitude. She had only been married about a year when Charles the Second came to the throne, and at once proceeded to enact laws against all who would not conform to the services of the Church of England. Ministers who did not belong to the Episcopal Church were forbidden to preach even in the open air, and all who attended their meetings were to be punished. Many of those who refused to obey the King were imprisoned. In defiance of these laws Bunyan continued to pass from village to village in the fulfilment of his duties. Towards the end of 1660 he was arrested and thrown into prison.

At the end of a few months he was brought before the magistrates at Bedford. The charge against him was, "that being a labourer, he had perniciously abstained from going to church to hear divine service, and was a common upholder of several unlawful meetings and conventicles, to the great disturbance and distraction of the good people of this kingdom, contrary to the laws of our sovereign lord, the King."

Bunyan admitted that he had long since ceased to attend the parish church because lie could not find in the Bible that he was commanded to do so, and that he had with those like minded as himself held meetings for prayer and instruction in the Word of God. This was taken as a confession of guilt, and sentence was accordingly passed in the following words :

"You must be had back again to prison, and there lie for three months following, and at the end of that time if you do not submit to go to church to hear divine service, and leave your preaching, you must be banished the realm. And if after such a day as shall be appointed you to be gone, you shall be found in this realm, or be found to come over again without special license from the King, you must stretch by the neck for it, I tell you plainly."

To this Bunyan replied that he should preach when- ever he got the chance.

In the events which followed, Mrs. Bunyan proved herself a worthy companion for such a man. When the sentence was pronounced she was in very weak health, and the state of agitation into which she was thrown brought on a serious illness which nearly proved fatal. Fear for her husband's welfare greatly retarded her recovery. She knew well that his determined character and uncompromising zeal, which led him openly to defy the authorities, would sooner or later end in his banishment or death. What to do to save him she knew not. The local magistrates spurned her oft-repeated petitions, and she was in despair.

At length the 23rd of April 1661 was fixed for the coronation of Charles, and in this event the faithful wife saw one last grand remaining chance to obtain her husband's freedom, for it was customary to signalize such an event by the release of a number of prisoners. Might not her husband be among that number? No, it could not be; ordinary criminals who had merely transgressed the laws might be released with safety, but Bunyan was no ordinary criminal. He had opposed the King in a cherished ambition, and if such an one was set free, who could foretell the consequences; might there not be a repetition of the scene enacted at Whitehall thirteen years before? So the King may have reasoned; at all events he refused to allow Bunyan his liberty.

In spite of repeated rebuffs, Elizabeth continued fondly to cherish the hope of accomplishing her object. She determined to address the Government in person. She accordingly went to London, and presented a petition in the House of Lords praying for her husband to be released. The Peers were friendly disposed towards her, and took great interest in her case. They could not, however, grant her request, as her husband had in the meantime repeated his refusal to obey the commands of the court. He would neither attend the parish church nor give up preaching, and was accordingly sent back to his cell to await the decision of the assize judges at the court to be held in August.

Disappointed, but resolute, she returned to Bedford to make preparations for laying her appeal before the authorities. Nothing was forgotten, no scheme left untried. On three occasions she presented three different petitions to the judges, begging them to take an impartial view of her husband's case, and not to pass sentence of condemnation until they had heard him in his own defense. At the present time such a request seems highly absurd; but in those days it was necessary, and to a certain extent advisable, for "the fountains of justice were corrupted, and the seats of judgment occupied by men who, in their judicial procedure, acting as the tools of a tyrannical Government, often outraged the principles of justice, and even the law as it then existed."

She laid her first petition before Sir Matthew Hale. He was anxious to aid the poor woman, and promised to do what he could to help her. She threw the second into the coach of Judge Twisdon, who on reading it exclaimed, "Your husband is a convicted person, and cannot be released unless he promises to preach no more." Again she appeared before Judge Hale when he was on the bench; but owing to the hostility of his colleagues he refused to receive her petition, for he rightly thought that if he accepted it in opposition to them it would do her case more harm than good.

Afterwards, when the judges were sitting together talking, Elizabeth ventured again before them. "My lords," she said, "I make bold to come once more to you to know what may be done with my husband. He is kept unlawfully in prison, for he was never asked whether he was guilty or no, neither did he confess."

"He was lawfully convicted," remarked one of the judges.

"It is false," exclaimed Elizabeth, "for when he was asked if he confessed the indictment his only reply was that he had been at several meetings. It is false," she continued, "for it was but the word of a discourse that was taken for a confession."

"Will your husband leave off preaching?" asked Twisdon. "If he will do so, send for him."

"He dares not leave off preaching as long as he can speak, my lord."

"I told you so," said Twisdon angrily, turning to Sir Matthew Hale. "He is a rebel and a disturber of men's minds and the public rest."

"He desires to live peaceably and to follow his calling," said Elizabeth, "that his family may be maintained. He desires a fair trial and freedom; but because he is a tinker and a poor man he cannot have justice."

With these words she left the room. Speaking afterwards of this interview, she told her friends that "there was no prevailing to have my husband sent for, though I often desired them that they might send for him that he might speak for himself; telling them that he could give them better satisfaction than I could in what they demanded of him." The dignity and spirit which she displayed on her husband's behalf are among the finest instances on record of wifely courage in the defense of an absent and condemned prisoner. It is said that she shook the resolution of some of the judges; but they alone, among whom was Sir Matthew Hale, were unable to conquer the violent opposition which they met with.

During the long dreary period of twelve years Bunyan was a prisoner in Bedford Gaol. Fortunately, the kindness of friends and neighbours kept them from starving; but the patience of Mrs. Bunyan must have been sorely tried. She had ever before her eyes the thought that her husband might be exiled or executed, and the care of his four children under such circumstances was no light task. But she did her duty faithfully and bravely, and, though she was at times inclined to question the utility of so much hardship and suffering, faith raised her up, supreme in the knowledge that "all things work together for good to them that love "God."

At length Bunyan obtained his freedom, and was chosen as the minister of a church in Bedford. The remaining sixteen years of his life were spent in the joyful performance of the work for which he had borne so much. Confinement had not lessened his power as a preacher, and his sermons were eagerly listened to by large audiences. The faithful Elizabeth had her reward, and was satisfied. Bunyan died in 1688, and four years later his wife followed him to the eternal city.
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody:
solite3:
The Loyal Wife Of John Bunyan

The Wife of Bunyan

Taken from the book entitled, Heroines of the Faith, early 1900’s

The influence for good which a woman can exert in shaping the life and character of her husband has never been more strikingly shown than in the case of John Bunyan. It is well known that as a youth he was wild and reckless, the leader in all mischief, and a terrible swearer; "enough," as one woman told him, "by his example to spoil the youth of the whole town."

He was not, however, altogether bad, and his conscience frequently reproached him for his wild ways; but it remained for his wife to stir up the good qualities of his nature, which lay dormant.

When just verging on manhood he married a young woman, of whom we know very little beyond the fact that she was "born of good, honest, godly parents, who had instructed her as well as they were able in the ways of truth and saving knowledge." The young couple settled down at Elstow, near Bedford, where Bunyan worked as a tinker. They were very poor, "not having so much household stuff as a dish or a spoon betwixt them." The wife, however, had two good books, which her father had given her—The Plain Man's Pathway to Heaven, and The Practice of Piety. These she persuaded her husband to read, and he was thus awakened to a full knowledge of the wickedness of his past life.

The struggle between good and evil which followed was long and severe. Gradually he gave up his bad ways, till at length he became a Christian. Throughout his conflict he was sustained and comforted by the devotion of his wife. She, however, only lived to see the fulfillment of her hopes and desires, for about 1656 she died, leaving two sons and two daughters, one of whom was blind.

Bunyan was now called by the brethren of the Baptist Church at Bedford to preach in the villages round about. The earnestness of his words carried conviction to his hearers, and crowds flocked to hear him.

In 1659 Bunyan married again. More is known of his second wife, Elizabeth; she is described as being equal in piety to the first, but of greater intelligence and fortitude. She had only been married about a year when Charles the Second came to the throne, and at once proceeded to enact laws against all who would not conform to the services of the Church of England. Ministers who did not belong to the Episcopal Church were forbidden to preach even in the open air, and all who attended their meetings were to be punished. Many of those who refused to obey the King were imprisoned. In defiance of these laws Bunyan continued to pass from village to village in the fulfilment of his duties. Towards the end of 1660 he was arrested and thrown into prison.

At the end of a few months he was brought before the magistrates at Bedford. The charge against him was, "that being a labourer, he had perniciously abstained from going to church to hear divine service, and was a common upholder of several unlawful meetings and conventicles, to the great disturbance and distraction of the good people of this kingdom, contrary to the laws of our sovereign lord, the King."

Bunyan admitted that he had long since ceased to attend the parish church because lie could not find in the Bible that he was commanded to do so, and that he had with those like minded as himself held meetings for prayer and instruction in the Word of God. This was taken as a confession of guilt, and sentence was accordingly passed in the following words :

"You must be had back again to prison, and there lie for three months following, and at the end of that time if you do not submit to go to church to hear divine service, and leave your preaching, you must be banished the realm. And if after such a day as shall be appointed you to be gone, you shall be found in this realm, or be found to come over again without special license from the King, you must stretch by the neck for it, I tell you plainly."

To this Bunyan replied that he should preach when- ever he got the chance.

In the events which followed, Mrs. Bunyan proved herself a worthy companion for such a man. When the sentence was pronounced she was in very weak health, and the state of agitation into which she was thrown brought on a serious illness which nearly proved fatal. Fear for her husband's welfare greatly retarded her recovery. She knew well that his determined character and uncompromising zeal, which led him openly to defy the authorities, would sooner or later end in his banishment or death. What to do to save him she knew not. The local magistrates spurned her oft-repeated petitions, and she was in despair.

At length the 23rd of April 1661 was fixed for the coronation of Charles, and in this event the faithful wife saw one last grand remaining chance to obtain her husband's freedom, for it was customary to signalize such an event by the release of a number of prisoners. Might not her husband be among that number? No, it could not be; ordinary criminals who had merely transgressed the laws might be released with safety, but Bunyan was no ordinary criminal. He had opposed the King in a cherished ambition, and if such an one was set free, who could foretell the consequences; might there not be a repetition of the scene enacted at Whitehall thirteen years before? So the King may have reasoned; at all events he refused to allow Bunyan his liberty.

In spite of repeated rebuffs, Elizabeth continued fondly to cherish the hope of accomplishing her object. She determined to address the Government in person. She accordingly went to London, and presented a petition in the House of Lords praying for her husband to be released. The Peers were friendly disposed towards her, and took great interest in her case. They could not, however, grant her request, as her husband had in the meantime repeated his refusal to obey the commands of the court. He would neither attend the parish church nor give up preaching, and was accordingly sent back to his cell to await the decision of the assize judges at the court to be held in August.

Disappointed, but resolute, she returned to Bedford to make preparations for laying her appeal before the authorities. Nothing was forgotten, no scheme left untried. On three occasions she presented three different petitions to the judges, begging them to take an impartial view of her husband's case, and not to pass sentence of condemnation until they had heard him in his own defense. At the present time such a request seems highly absurd; but in those days it was necessary, and to a certain extent advisable, for "the fountains of justice were corrupted, and the seats of judgment occupied by men who, in their judicial procedure, acting as the tools of a tyrannical Government, often outraged the principles of justice, and even the law as it then existed."

She laid her first petition before Sir Matthew Hale. He was anxious to aid the poor woman, and promised to do what he could to help her. She threw the second into the coach of Judge Twisdon, who on reading it exclaimed, "Your husband is a convicted person, and cannot be released unless he promises to preach no more." Again she appeared before Judge Hale when he was on the bench; but owing to the hostility of his colleagues he refused to receive her petition, for he rightly thought that if he accepted it in opposition to them it would do her case more harm than good.

Afterwards, when the judges were sitting together talking, Elizabeth ventured again before them. "My lords," she said, "I make bold to come once more to you to know what may be done with my husband. He is kept unlawfully in prison, for he was never asked whether he was guilty or no, neither did he confess."

"He was lawfully convicted," remarked one of the judges.

"It is false," exclaimed Elizabeth, "for when he was asked if he confessed the indictment his only reply was that he had been at several meetings. It is false," she continued, "for it was but the word of a discourse that was taken for a confession."

"Will your husband leave off preaching?" asked Twisdon. "If he will do so, send for him."

"He dares not leave off preaching as long as he can speak, my lord."

"I told you so," said Twisdon angrily, turning to Sir Matthew Hale. "He is a rebel and a disturber of men's minds and the public rest."

"He desires to live peaceably and to follow his calling," said Elizabeth, "that his family may be maintained. He desires a fair trial and freedom; but because he is a tinker and a poor man he cannot have justice."

With these words she left the room. Speaking afterwards of this interview, she told her friends that "there was no prevailing to have my husband sent for, though I often desired them that they might send for him that he might speak for himself; telling them that he could give them better satisfaction than I could in what they demanded of him." The dignity and spirit which she displayed on her husband's behalf are among the finest instances on record of wifely courage in the defense of an absent and condemned prisoner. It is said that she shook the resolution of some of the judges; but they alone, among whom was Sir Matthew Hale, were unable to conquer the violent opposition which they met with.

During the long dreary period of twelve years Bunyan was a prisoner in Bedford Gaol. Fortunately, the kindness of friends and neighbours kept them from starving; but the patience of Mrs. Bunyan must have been sorely tried. She had ever before her eyes the thought that her husband might be exiled or executed, and the care of his four children under such circumstances was no light task. But she did her duty faithfully and bravely, and, though she was at times inclined to question the utility of so much hardship and suffering, faith raised her up, supreme in the knowledge that "all things work together for good to them that love "God."

At length Bunyan obtained his freedom, and was chosen as the minister of a church in Bedford. The remaining sixteen years of his life were spent in the joyful performance of the work for which he had borne so much. Confinement had not lessened his power as a preacher, and his sermons were eagerly listened to by large audiences. The faithful Elizabeth had her reward, and was satisfied. Bunyan died in 1688, and four years later his wife followed him to the eternal city.
All these lengthy epistle all in a bid to compel a wife to subject herself to her husband? Ephesians 5:22 cheesy

Just few quotations from the scriptures will do that Sir, and whoever refuse to comply is simply saying 'i dare Jesus and all his Apostles' PERIOD! 2Timothy 3:16-17 cheesy

Please true Christians don't need all these tales to make people obey God's word!
If it's God's holy spirit that's directing the overseers in your place of worship, the Bible is enough to penetrate even stony hearts! Hebrews 4:12

Abeg come and learn from Jehovah's Witnesses {true Christians} how we're doing it.
Remember Jesus' words when he said 'with God all things are possible' Matthew 19:26

So if your THEORIES are based on God's word, it will have PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS and you'll all experience the BENEFITS thereof!

Of course the REAL SPIRITUL food is scarce these days {Amos 8:12} because even while we bring it to your doorstep freely, the falsehood in your hearts won't allow you to listen! Luke 10:6

Paul said, in the endtime MOST religious groups will gather FALSE teachers for themselves, to tell them false stories instead of spiritual insight from God's word! 2Timothy 4:3-4

That's what you've just done now Sir! cheesy
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by LilMissFavvy(f): 6:11pm On Jul 05, 2019
It's a big joke if you feel I would ignore my faith and join a faith which I don't understand. Truth is, the JW preachings Is far better than the preachings of so many of you. I don't know what you mean by me failing to obey the word of God simply because I pointed out that these writings 100percent focus on teaching submission. Is that what you see in the Bible? Is that what Paul or Jesus taught? Continue to preach one sided versions of the word of God, but don't be surprised that it's not yielding fruits, because the scriptures have been twisted.
alBHAGDADI:
When you fail to obey the word of God stretched forward before, you end up accepting Satan's offer. You have been indirectly trying to discredit the message of this thread with a flimsy excuse that it doesn't tell men how to love their wife.

The thread is about women, accept it or leave it. But because you don't want to accept the message, you decided to create an excuse not to. This has resulted in you now considering an offer from Jehovah's witnesses who are a satanic cult posing as Christians.
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by alBHAGDADI: 6:13pm On Jul 05, 2019
LilMissFavvy:
It's a big joke if you feel I would ignore my faith and join a faith which I don't understand. Truth is, the JW preachings Is far better than the preachings of so many of you. I don't know what you mean by me failing to obey the word of God simply because I pointed out that these writings 100percent focus on teaching submission. Is that what you see in the Bible? Is that what Paul or Jesus taught? Continue to preach one sided versions of the word of God, but don't be surprised that it's not yielding fruits, because the scriptures have been twisted.
What are the JW preachings that are better than what Christians preach?
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Bamz(m): 8:16pm On Jul 05, 2019
LilMissFavvy:
It's a big joke if you feel I would ignore my faith and join a faith which I don't understand. Truth is, the JW preachings Is far better than the preachings of so many of you. I don't know what you mean by me failing to obey the word of God simply because I pointed out that these writings 100percent focus on teaching submission. Is that what you see in the Bible? Is that what Paul or Jesus taught? Continue to preach one sided versions of the word of God, but don't be surprised that it's not yielding fruits, because the scriptures have been twisted.
Hey hun,

Are you a JW?
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Nobody: 8:36pm On Jul 05, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
What are the JW preachings that are better than what Christians preach?
the worst thing is that she cannot point out one untrue thing in the op.

She lacks manners.

Paul himself admonishes the older women to teach the younger women to keep their homes.
He didnt balance it up by also telling older men to teach younger men. surely paul must be bias for not addressing both wives and husbands.

Titus 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

In the bible Miriam and Aaron committed the same sin
Numbers 12:1
And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

But God struck Miriam with leprosy and left Aaron

Numbers 12:10
And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.

Surely God must also be bias.

She doesnt care for truth just something to placate her foolish mind.


The word will only bear fruit in a fertile heart not on a stony ground.
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by LilMissFavvy(f): 8:52pm On Jul 05, 2019
Am not, okay? I love some of their preachings and the brotherly love among them. Just that there are issues I cannot understand about the JW doctrine, eg areas of prophesy, miracles, gift of holyspirit, etc.
Bamz:
Hey hun,

Are you a JW?
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by Bamz(m): 9:11pm On Jul 05, 2019
LilMissFavvy:
Am not, okay? I love some of their preachings and the brotherly love among them. Just that there are issues I cannot understand about the JW doctrine, eg areas of prophesy, miracles, gift of holyspirit, etc.
Alright, I've been a beneficiary of their brotherly love. smiley
Hope you had a nice day.
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by LilMissFavvy(f): 10:20pm On Jul 05, 2019
Are you like Moses? In your generation of twisted doctrines you should be bothered about the next pastor who will be exposed and ridiculed, hence you pray to avert it. If you feel its a crime that I pointed out that teachings should also be focused on husband's role, then you belong to what 2nd Tim. 4:3-4 perfectly described. Moses listened to the complaints of his people, so who are you? Eph. 5:25-33, as a whole commands husband's to love their wives. Col. 3:19,
ist Pet. 3:7 givess same command for husband's to love and honour their wives. Yet all you do is teach submission and kick against the true words of scriptures.
Observe the JWs chats with you, and see who sounds Christ-like. I refused to reply aibadadi's last mention, because the answer to his question, is very reflective in this thread, and was answered by the JW. JW cannot operate threads that teach 100 percent submission, without teaching love from husband's, go and find out.
I did not quote scriptures here like you childishly used scriptures to insult me, because God's words should not be played with.
Jer. 23:21 states: ''i have not sent these prophets, yet they ran, I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. Not every writing is from a Godly source, so when people take note of what they feel is amiss, you should stop condemning them.
solite3:
the worst thing is that she cannot point out one untrue thing in the op.

She lacks manners.

Paul himself admonishes the older women to teach the younger women to keep their homes.
He didnt balance it up by also telling older men to teach younger men. surely paul must be bias for not addressing both wives and husbands.

Titus 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

In the bible Miriam and Aaron committed the same sin
Numbers 12:1
And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

But God struck Miriam with leprosy and left Aaron

Numbers 12:10
And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.

Surely God must also be bias.

She doesnt care for truth just something to placate her foolish mind.


The word will only bear fruit in a fertile heart not on a stony ground.
Re: Rebellious Wives And Broken Homes by LilMissFavvy(f): 10:21pm On Jul 05, 2019
Sure, tanx.
Bamz:
Alright, I've been a beneficiary of their brotherly love. smiley
Hope you had a nice day.
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