In my first comment here, I talked about cultism being centered around controĺling spirits and concealing of the spirit of the initiated.

Well, the OP has in fact confirmed that.
During his "brutal" initiation story he claimed he was beaten for long hours and needed two weeks or thereabout to heal. He also said he suddenly jumped after drinking a certain blood based cocktail or concoction and I think that is when they controlling spirits entered. He was weak after the initiation beating or drilling but suddenly jumped and uttered some words then synchronized in action with older guys or initiates.
That is the moment the controlling spirit entered there. I believe he left those out for the sake of not "glorifying the works of Satan'.

EnthronedbyGod:



I can't say anything on this COZA issue, but I'm obviously not a fan of fatoyinbo.

A long time ago, when I was on Facebook I used to follow him, but the Spirit led me to stop following his page and I obeyed immediately.

That doesn't mean he's ritualistic,but he obviously wasn't a good example, that's why the Spirit led me to stop following his page.

It's only one virgin that has said she was raped, the other ladies never claimed to be virgins, so I can't just conclude.

A good pastor can mentor a bad son in the Lord, just like Elisha was a father to Gehazi. This doesn't also mean he and his father are good or bad.

If he committed those crimes, he should be humble enough to admit and seek forgiveness and repentance, both from the church, the families he hurt and from God.
Though I'm starting to think he actually slept with the lady,because of the statement by the pastor that wedded the Dakolos. It might be termed as rape because he slept with an under age girl.


All I know is that there are so many satanic pastors out there and God will expose them one by one.

You made a lot of sense here, so I just had to acknowledge it and add a lil' bit.

That Adam turned out evil and rebellious didn't make His Creator to be bad.

For Adam only turned out bad because He refused to follow the good instructions of His good Creator.

So although it's important to train up a child in the way he should go, so that when he's grown he would not depart from it, it's important to note the decision not to depart from the way he was trained up to go hinges on the child when he grows up.

Therefore a child who's trained up to go in the right way could yet choose to follow the wrong way.

God bless.

LilMissFavvy:
I don't know the book, but I think it should be effective if it contains prayers about the issue. I believe in Dr. Olukoya.

I saw your comment somewhere about dreams, what dream was that?

CodeTemplar:
Been waiting for this part also. Controlling spirits.

I couldn't respond to this before,cos I was in a hurry.

The demonic spirits usually enter during the beatings or during the jorjor( gyration) or when one is drinking the cult drink( cos most cults have their type of drinks which they bless in the name of the gods) and most importantly during the oath taking.
It's usually more than one spirit that possesses cult members.
The first to enter is the spirit controlling the cult, after it enters it then opens the door for other lesser spirits to join.
Most cult spirits are in the level of the rulers of darkness of this world and they are the ones that can do the possession, before allowing others enter.

jesusjnr:
You made a lot of sense here, so I just had to acknowledge it and add a lil' bit.

That Adam turned out evil and rebellious didn't make His Creator to be bad.

For Adam only turned out bad because He refused to follow the good instructions of His good Creator.

So although it's important to train up a child in the way he should go, so that when he's grown he would not depart from it, it's important to note the decision not to depart from the way he was trained up to go hinges on the child when he grows up.

Therefore a child who's trained up to go in the right way could yet choose to follow the wrong way.

God bless.

Exactly

@codetemplar , that's why I liked that your comment at the beginning. I know you didn't know I was the 1st person that used the like button on that comment.


Many don't know they get possessed by these demons, they think it's just for fun.


After I surrendered to God I used to see myself in the dream cutting(nacking) egede and still doing some of the things I did in the kingdoms I belonged, till I prayed myself out.

I also noticed then that sometimes I used to subconsciously rejoice inward when I heard axemen where leading in wars in school campuses.

That's why I said at the end that anyone who wants to truly leave cultism can only achieve that feat through the power of God and the person must be extremely determined, cos there are some who think they have left not knowing they are still unconscious and subconscious members.

EnthronedbyGod:



I couldn't respond to this before,cos I was in a hurry.

The demonic spirits usually enter during the beatings or during the jorjor( gyration) or when one is drinking the cult drink( cos most cults have their type of drinks which they bless in the name of the gods) and most importantly during the oath taking.
It's usually more than one spirit that possesses cult members.
The first to enter is the spirit controlling the cult, after it enters it then opens the door for other lesser spirits to join.
Most cult spirits are in the level of the rulers of darkness of this world and they are the ones that can do the possession, before allowing others enter.

Important to know that occult people too bless things in names of dark beings before consuming them.

Some believers avoid blessed substances like anointing oil and holy communion. These are normal everyday substances and the main difference between the occult version and Kingdom of God one is the names in which they are blessed. That's why you have to test all spirits.
Your faith is needed for the good one but the bad one only needs them to subdue your flesh to sensitize it to those evil spirit beings and things.

Even Jesus gave the his disciples fruit juice after blessing it and called it His blood.

I can't recall exactly, I don't think it's me.

EnthronedbyGod:



I saw your comment somewhere about dreams, what dream was that?

OP, I salute your courage for exposing these for many to learn. By HIS grace, I am now a servant of God who was also a BAN member. From Madagascar deck, they say lobish FUT Minna, then known as TOTAL * * *. I practically felt a spirit entered into me immediately I thumb printed on the scroll ( mind you, a scroll is made of animal skin which you thumb print your blood on). No buccaneer knows this except the big eye or you are close to him. My CGPA dropped drastically, then I entered into drugs, alcoholism and fornication. At a time, the spirit advised me to leave school when I was in 500l. Thank God for my 100 level adviser who is a pastor that came to my rescue.
I was not thinking of dropping out cos of any challenges, I was ok financially, a faculty president and the class rep from 100l to 400l. So, it is real bro.... I am with you and learning the more. Continue sir

LilMissFavvy:
I can't recall exactly, I don't think it's me.

Probably last month, but if you can't recall don't worry.

i8sins:
OP, I salute your courage for exposing these for many to learn. By HIS grace, I am now a servant of God who was also a BAN member. From Madagascar deck, they say lobish FUT Minna, then known as TOTAL * * *. I practically felt a spirit entered into me immediately I thumb printed on the scroll ( mind you, a scroll is made of animal skin which you thumb print your blood on). No buccaneer knows this except the big eye or you are close to him. My CGPA dropped drastically, then I entered into drugs, alcoholism and fornication. At a time, the spirit advised me to leave school when I was in 500l. Thank God for my 100 level adviser who is a pastor that came to my rescue.
I was not thinking of dropping out cos of any challenges, I was ok financially, a faculty president and the class rep from 100l to 400l. So, it is real bro.... I am with you and learning the more. Continue sir

Thank God for your life.

It's only the ignorant ones and the ones who have hardened their hearts and refused to surrender to God that have been trying to discredit this thread, but the truly repentant ones who know that the things I spilled here are true, are thankful to God for the lives that are being saved from hell daily by this post.


May God continue to shield you and may He keep you till the day we see Him face to face in Jesus name.

CodeTemplar:


Important to know that occult people too bless things in names of dark beings before consuming them.

Some believers avoid blessed substances like anointing oil and holy communion. These are normal everyday substances and the main difference between the occult version and Kingdom of God one is the names in which they are blessed. That's why you have to test all spirits.
Your faith is needed for the good one but the bad one only needs them to subdue your flesh to sensitize it to those evil spirit beings and things.

Even Jesus gave the his disciples fruit juice after blessing them and called it His blood.

There is nothing really bad in communion and mantles, the only problem is that a lot of ministers have bastardised it.
A lot of ministers now sell these things for huge sums of money thereby discrediting the genuine ones.
That's why every Christian has to strive to know God personally so as not to fall into the wrong hands.

EnthronedbyGod:




There is nothing really bad in communion and mantles, the only problem is that a lot of ministers have bastardised it.
A lot of ministers now sell these things for huge sums of money thereby discrediting the genuine ones.

That's why every Christian has to strive to know God personally so as not to fall into the wrong hands.

That's the fault of the gullible believers. The things of the spirit cannot be bought with money and that was well illustrated allover the Bible. There is even an illustration of the non-sellable nature of things of the spirit in Acts 8:20

Rogersmith:
@LilMissFavvy
@EnthronedbyGod
@Jesusjr
Please how can one battle spiritual wife in prayer?
Your input is highly needed here. Thanks and God bless you.

Well,

You would have to cut of from every thing and anything that triggers your sexual lust in you.

You have to get to understand the source.
Could be inherited or acquired

The inherited once are usually more stubborn that the acquired once.

One way to know if you making progress in your prayers is in your dreams and at other times, the triggering of the sexual lust within you would reduce.

I saw you talk about prayer Rain, it's a very good book and it would help you.

You can also buy another book titled Deliveranxe from Spirit wives and Spirit Husband.

I sense this acquired not inherited, so am pretty sure with very steady prayers you should be free.

But ensure to pray well before you marry, cos some times those spirits use to program agents into people's life.

I wish you luck as you progress. The lord would deliver you and help you recover all you have lost.

HaileSelassie:


Dear Brother.
I have been reading the cultism thread and this thread for the past 6 hours and I feel this is for me.
I have been a very promising boy who wanted to get involved in all the so called jolly of life. But looks like fingers have been terribly burnt. I joined a popular frat in school out of boredom and truth is life hasn't been the same. I have gone to involve myself with so occultic people without joining and occult myself and during my NYSC I also had an amorous relationship that almost cost me my life. I being manipulated. This I know! I have lost glossy opportunities due to these manipulation but Thank God I still got age on my side. Right now I don't even know where to start from. I went to a Bible believing assembly last week and immidiately the pastor mounted the pulpit. He sawy case. That day I was delivered from Succubi but I do feel I have a lot of other spirits monitoring me. My weird dreams have stopped but I can't let go of this lingering feeling of wasting away. Well the pastor asked me to make sure I am in next service. And hopefully things get better. Every spiritual person I meet often looks at me with a pity face got loads of talent now I am just wasting away ...

First thing, I want to thank God on your behalf that you were able to find your way back, not everyone has this opportunity.

Well, Try and ensure to go back to that church and be active there if possible, it would help you in this journey.

God would use the pastor for you.. You would need to patient on the journey but you would be fine.

You go still do pastor work last last but sha just go back to that church and let God work on you.

Regards

madprophet:


Well,

You would have to cut of from every thing and anything that triggers your sexual lust in you.

You have to get to understand the source.
Could be inherited or acquired

The inherited once are usually more stubborn that the acquired once.

One way to know if you making progress in your prayers is in your dreams and at other times, the triggering of the sexual lust within you would reduce.

I saw you talk about prayer Rain, it's a very good book and it would help you.

You can also buy another book titled Deliveranxe from Spirit wives and Spirit Husband.

I sense this acquired not inherited, so am pretty sure with very steady prayers you should be free.

But ensure to pray well before you marry, cos some times those spirits use to program agents into people's life.

I wish you luck as you progress. The lord would deliver you and help you recover all you have lost.

Thanks for your sound spiritual input. I think it was acquired. I have cut off a lot things to stay pure. And about my search for wife, that is challenged. I wish I could chat with you privately.

Rogersmith:

Thanks for your sound spiritual input. I think it was acquired. I have cut off a lot things to stay pure. And about my search for wife, that is challenged. I wish I could chat with you privately.

I gave exactly the same advice.
I also told you to do away with anything that'll incite lust, be it movies or songs.
Probably you didn't take my advice.
I had a similar problem after I gave my life to Christ and I asked God the source of the problem.
In the night , I saw myself watching pornography in the dream and I instantly knew that was the source.

EnthronedbyGod:



I gave exactly the same advice.
I also told you to do away with anything that'll incite lust, be it movies or songs.
Probably you didn't take my advice.
I had a similar problem after I gave my life to Christ and I asked God the source of the problem.
In the night , I saw myself watching pornography in the dream and I instantly knew that was the source.

I took your advice. I have stopped watching any movie that stimulates arousal. I used the prayer points you gave me and and they was spiritual manifestation. Very helpful. Thanks brother.

EnthronedbyGod:

I was beaten with a 2by 2 stick for 7hours. it's only God that saved me that night,if u don't know what a 2by 2 stick looks like you can ask your carpenter when you get home and imagine yourself being beaten with such stick non stop, many dont make it.Be warned.

Only the S.M can relate to this. Sorry for the quote. That is why you can never an axemen that doesn't have blood in his eye, cos he went through hell.


Be warned. Cultism doesn't pay!

SHUN IT PLS

Rogersmith:

I took your advice. I have stopped watching any movie that with any movie that stimulates arousal. I used the prayer points you gave me and and they was spiritual I got while using it. Very helpful. Thanks brother.

Thank God. You're blessed

Rogersmith:

Thanks for your sound spiritual input. I think it was acquired. I have cut off a lot things to stay pure. And about my search for wife, that is challenged. I wish I could chat with you privately.

Send me a PM.

Hmmm. Finally read your thread after my anger and disappointment at the way you started it made me stop reading earlier.

Must commend you for the work you have done. You have saved a lot of souls by this. God bless you.

After prayers yesterday I had a dream and I was given a Bible and a gun. I noticed that in my dreams this days, I’m either shooting at someone or someone trying to shoot at me. Any dream interpreter?

Rogersmith:
After prayers yesterday I had a dream and I was given a Bible and a gun. I noticed that in my dreams this days, I’m either shooting at someone or someone trying to shoot at me. Any dream interpreter?

You are winning bros.

Keep on the good work

Rogersmith:
After prayers yesterday I had a dream and I was given a Bible and a gun.

The Bible and the gun could mean you're being equipped for spiritual warfare, for the Word of God which may be represented by Bible is a weapon itself, a double-edged sword. So let's say you were given a double edged sword and a gun to war against the powers of darkness.

And the Bible from another angle may also represent your obedience of God's Word, while the gun could mean your prayers and fastings, which are also spiritual weapons that serves the same above purpose.

Not so significant but just out of curiosity, did you see who gave you both?

Rogersmith:
I noticed that in my dreams this days, I’m either shooting at someone or someone trying to shoot at me. Any dream interpreter?

If it coincides with your ramping up of your spiritual exercises, that means that it is hitting home, for it a constant battle now, as long as you keep making efforts to resist the devil and not fall into sin and temptations.

For usually you are not seen as a threat when you are not resistant to their efforts and you let them have their way in your life, for they won't see any need to fight you.

But once you become resistant, you become a threat to their efforts, hence the battle to indicate that something has changed in the spiritual configurations of your life and that progress is being made in that respect.

Please let me know more about the result of the shooting, how it usually pans outs, so that I could possibly deduce more info concerning your current level spiritually speaking.

Thanks and God bless.

Mr Enthroned, evening to you. Are you trying to say you have ended this thread? Pls no do like this to me o. I was hoping to see more updates. I wished I could see u face to face make u tell me everything cos I'm very sure you skipped so many part. My colleagues at work have been disturbing me for updates (I keep summarizing ur thread and that of SAYNOTOCULTISM to them) they are lazy readers and dey no get time to dey open nairaland. I had no choice than to be adding maggi and curry to u guys stories.

Thanks for ur response to my mail. Been feeling lazy to type the response. Will do that this night.
Cheers.

And thanks to others who have contributed to this thread. For example jesusjnr(im sure u must have forgotten me. I guess it was u who once converted someone from atheism to christianity)

jesusjnr:
The Bible and the gun could mean you're being equipped for spiritual warfare, for the Word of God which may be represented by Bible is a weapon itself, a double-edged sword. So let's say you were given a double edged sword and a gun to war against the powers of darkness.

And the Bible from another angle may also represent your obedience of God's Word, while the gun could mean your prayers and fastings, which are also spiritual weapons that serves the same above purpose.

Not so significant but just out of curiosity, did you see who gave you both?
If it coincides with your ramping up of your spiritual exercises, that means that it is hitting home, for it a constant battle now, as long as you keep making efforts to resist the devil and not fall into sin and temptations.

For usually you are not seen as a threat when you are not resistant to their efforts and you let them have their way in your life, for they won't see any need to fight you.

But once you become resistant, you become a threat to their efforts, hence the battle to indicate that something has changed in the spiritual configurations of your life and that progress is being made in that respect.

Please let me know more about the result of the shooting, how it usually pans outs, so that I could possibly deduce more info concerning your current level spiritually speaking.

Thanks and God bless.

About the shooting, I saw myself in hole and someone was trying to shoot at me and someone standing beside the person gave me a gun and i shot the man on his head , came out the hole and ran. The second one wasn’t so clear but I was somewhere hiding from someone suddenly I found myself with a gun and I shot the person and I left the place. On my way out I saw 2 people and one gave a gun and a Bible after that I woke up.

Rogersmith:

About the shooting, I saw myself in hole and someone was trying to shoot at me and someone standing beside the person gave me a gun and i shot the man on his head , came out the hole and ran. The second one wasn’t so clear but I was somewhere hiding from someone suddenly I found myself with a gun and I shot the person and I left the place. On my way out I saw 2 people and one gave a gun and a Bible after that I woke up.

OK It perhaps show you are making progress and growing spiritually, that you are winning the battles and your adversaries are not able to harm you, even when it seem they are about to do so.

But since you're still getting direct help from most likely heavenly spirits, it shows you are somewhere but not quite there yet.

So keep working at it, till you've grown spiritually to the level where you have the capacity to withstand and defeat them on your own.

And from there you can start talking about the next level of spiritual battles.

God bless.

p.s. It's okay to be violent in the spirit world, for i am actually merciless there, even though that's the exact opposite of who I am in the physical world. And also let me know if this development coincided with your upping your spiritual game. Thanks.

jesusjnr:
OK It perhaps show you are making progress and growing spiritually, that you are winning the battles and your adversaries are not able to harm you, even when it seem they are about to do so.

But since you're still getting direct help from most likely heavenly spirits, it shows you are somewhere but not quite there yet.

So keep working at it, till you've grown spiritually to the level where you have the capacity to withstand and defeat them on your own.

And from there you can start talking about the next level of spiritual battles.

God bless.

p.s. It's okay to be violent in the spirit world, for i am actually merciless there, even though that's the exact opposite of who I am in the physical world. And also let me know if this development coincided with your upping your spiritual game. Thanks.

I love that statement, you can now start talking about next level of spiritual battle. Awesome!!!

DeeMain:
Hmmm. Finally read your thread after my anger and disappointment at the way you started it made me stop reading earlier.

Must commend you for the work you have done. You have saved a lot of souls by this. God bless you.

God used @saynotocultism to bring you back and read it with an open mind.


I stated that many will leave the thread out of anger, but thank God you came back.


I appreciate your honesty,despite your disagreements and anger, you still came back to read.


God bless.

Rogersmith:
After prayers yesterday I had a dream and I was given a Bible and a gun. I noticed that in my dreams this days, I’m either shooting at someone or someone trying to shoot at me. Any dream interpreter?

The Bible has a dual meaning.
1- It means you need to study to show yourself approved to God.
2- This is the major meaning- ( You have a ministry to fulfill, you have a calling from God).

The gun means spiritual warfare. God has equipped you with the grace to pray and fight spiritually, cos the battle isn't over so you needed a greater grace for prayer, which you have gotten.
You need to keep on bombarding with your prayers.
Ask God to reveal your destiny to you.


You have a calling. I'm extremely sure about this. it might not be to start a church, but it is strongly linked to ministry.

Rogersmith:

About the shooting, I saw myself in hole and someone was trying to shoot at me and someone standing beside the person gave me a gun and i shot the man on his head , came out the hole and ran. The second one wasn’t so clear but I was somewhere hiding from someone suddenly I found myself with a gun and I shot the person and I left the place. On my way out I saw 2 people and one gave a gun and a Bible after that I woke up.

I'm happy you prayed those prayer points I gave you. I was actually led to do so.
Never done that here before.

The reason you saw yourself in a hole meant that you were buried spiritually and there is no way you will have fulfilled destiny without coming out of that hole( This is the actual meaning- I have a grace for interpretation of dreams).

Thank God you came out of the hole. That's why you couldn't be given the Bible till you came out. They shot you because they didn't want you out.

Your destiny is in that Bible.
Mark my words. You'll come back to confirm what I said.

God bless.