DeeMain:
Finally finished reading EnthronedbyGod's thread after my anger at the way he started it made me stop earlier.

I still maintain that his calling out some men of God and some denominations was unnecessary, ill-advised and counter productive.

Having read it now, here's my report:

There are many golden gems in his thread for anyone interested in the negative side, spiritual side and spiritual effects of cultism. He has enriched and deepened this expose on cultism.

Thank you EnthronedbyGod.

Will amend my earlier criticism of that thread.

Best wishes everyone.

Everything I did on that thread was exactly what the Spirit led me to do.
I stated at the beginning of the thread that many people were going to be offended and even curse me and stop reading and my predictions came to pass, cos that's what the Spirit told me.

If you go back to the thread you'll see where i clearly stated that anyone that didn't agree with me should seek God's face.

We can't always agree on everything, if we agree on all fronts then we aren't humans anymore.
The proof of maturity in Christians is to disagree peacefully.


I appreciate your honesty even if you disagreed with me on some things.


God bless you richly.

Mutemenot:


Bro. I'm not a novice when it comes to things of the dark world, I have visited nothing less than 20 altars... The first step to be free is denouncing them sincerely and then stand firm... several attacks must come, like having bad dreams and seeing strange things but your faith can out stand them..now let me tell you something, deliverance does not work if your faith is not strong.. not necessarily faith in God as a christain but faith in the sense that you are no longer practicing the occult ..
Op should appreciate his creator, he survived all the scenario not just cos of his charms but cos of the inbuilt spirit in him. He's born to be great...

This isn't the way you made the previous comment, if you did it this way, I wouldn't have disagreed with you.

EnthronedbyGod:



Everything I did on that thread was exactly what the Spirit led me to do.
I stated at the beginning of the thread that many people were going to be offended and even curse me and stop reading and my predictions came to pass, cos that's what the Spirit told me.

If you go back to the thread you'll see where i clearly stated that anyone that didn't agree with me should seek God's face.

We can't always agree on everything, if we agree on all fronts then we aren't humans anymore.
The proof of maturity in Christians is to disagree peacefully.


I appreciate your honesty even if you disagreed with me on some things.


God bless you richly.

Amen. Thanks. God bless you too.

kelechiodo:


Please no need to amend. The way he started actually put so many people off the thread. I have some grave researvation by the way he started though I continued to follow him till he finished his expository. He made a great effort which I respect. How I wish his initial post about pope, Obama, etc came at the tail end of his thread. He would have drawn so many people to that thread and change alot of life for better.

I had a point to prove.

The genealogy in the scriptures started from Adam and not Abraham, and the one in the new testament started from Adam and not Christ.

All cults emanate from the Church of Satan, that's what I tried to make people understand, so there's no way I could have put it last. That's exactly how I was led. That was never planned and I stated it.

Thanks for reading despite your reservations and God bless.

Thank you sir but the only grace that is freely available is the grace for salvation.
Paul was saved the very day he came in contact with God , afterwards, he walked with the Lord.

If this guy can get a book on the blood and anointing oil and settle down and eat both and then partake of anointing and communion service, he will be free.

The biggest and best arsenal in the armoury of the believer is the blood. According to Bishop Oyedepo, it is God last card for the rescue of the saint. After it, good has nothing to offer any believer.

It is not used against small clowns in satan's court but against the devil himself... They overcame him, satan, by the blood of the lamb and THE WORD of their testimony....what are the testifying against from the word... Rev 12:11

What is the word of your testimony made of? God didn't promised to ensure that your prayer of words didn't fall to the ground but His

Bless you

madprophet:


Good morning

Paul laboured in prayers after grace had found him and brought him to the fold.

Paul laboured in prayers after he began to walk with God and began to get insights.

Remember the bible say we saved by the grace and not by work our hands

Also remember that the bible also, except the lord draws a man to himself, he cannot by himself draw himself.

All this you mentioned are after the encounter when he began to pray and all.

Jacob and Esau were from the same womb but one obtained mercy or grace as you call it than another even before they began to work the surface of the earth.

There are men that are born with extraordinary grace or grace with them, cos of the kind of house or family lineage they come from or the dedication that their parents had done on them before they were born.

Why some would ask for the grace some dont need to.

Bros, this is a deep mysteries that only God can help us understand.

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This equally serves as my reply to EnthronedbyGod


How did you know I got no illumination from all the scriptures i read?.

What do you think Paul was doing in the Arabian desert for 3 years?.

I knew you're a student of the Bishop, most Bishops students don't know he's a man of prayer. Look at his sons. Enenche is a man of prayer, ibiyeomie is a man of prayer. Where do you think they learnt that from?

There's a place for prayer and a place for the word. They can't be substituted.

Jesus overcame Satan by the word during temptation, but on the way to Calvary, He prayed till His sweats were like drops of blood.

If you look at the statement here you disagreed with, you'll see I said it might take hours, days or minutes depending.


Except a corn of wheat falls and dies it abides alone. It has nothing to do with illumination from the word. God intentionally let's us to go through some things to bring out the image of Christ in us.


If it didn't take me 8 years how will I have known what I know now?.How will I have been the man that I am now?.


We talk so much of scriptures and relegate prayers. That's why we have so many half baked Christians devoid of God's power today. The devil isn't interested in how much scriptures you know , but the power of God you command.


We can agree to disagree. God bless.

madprophet:


I agree with you bro.

But let me explain this to you.

There are no hard and fast rule about it, A man could get delivered then begin to study himself approved in order to continually enjoy the been delivered and understand the workings of God.

Inshort that is what usually happens a lot times in cases like where there is possession and oppression cos the demon in charge woould not allow the word to stay.

you remember the parable of the seed and sower, all of then heard it but it's not everybody it worked for.

But the process of delivernance expels that demon and let the spirit of God reside in the spirit of that man.

You see that it is only when Jesus healed or delivered the someone that they begin to follow him, why didn't they follow him before, it cos they didnt have capacity the a power was in charge but after expelling the power, then the reading of the word begins to illuminate the person and the work of deliverance is completed.

But then it could be the other way round too, study the word, reflect and meditate on it and pray and the person gets the deliverance.

Which ever way the lord wants... the major thing is to be free..

Do have a great day

The servant of the lord must not strive, The Bible also says we shouldn't strive about words. When you try to reason with people and they keep on arguing. You have no option than to ignore them.


Many people think they know God's ways but they don't. They relegate prayers and talk only about the word. That's why we have more carnal Christians than spiritual.


I think it's better you agree to disagree with those arguing with you than to continue, cos it'll turn to strive.

This is my candid advice.

God bless.

Sir, you don't seem to get me. I am of the school that while he does his deliverance, he must know the word and have it in him. It is the word that give us spiritual weight.

To know the word is to know everything including prayer. You rosh the word back to the owner hence the reason for the word that says you should present your strong reason


If you are with Salvation or Ministry or Dunamis then our problem might and must be misunderstanding or lack of proper presentation of our views.

Bless you, brother.





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EnthronedbyGod:




The servant of the lord must not strive, The Bible also says we shouldn't strive about words. When you try to reason with people and they keep on arguing. You have no option than to ignore them.


Many people think they know God's ways but they don't. They relegate prayers and talk only about the word. That's why we have more carnal Christians than spiritual.


I think it's better you agree to disagree with those arguing with you than to continue, cos it'll turn to strive.

This is my candid advice.

God bless.

This is an extract from my first contribution on the Op last post where he mentioned pastor and deliverance

It is only the continuous entrance of the word...remember that verse says, the entrance of thy WORDS not word...therefore you have to hear many of the words and allow many to enter not just one word.... and learning about prayer... Prayer that enters heaven not the one that is sweet to the ears of men but that which takes hold of the mighty hand of God and moves it your affair.


Prayer language is found only in the scripture... It is not a product of much intelligence... Meditate on the word and sincerely ask God through Christ into your life and divine direction will follow

You need pastors but be watchful. If the solution is not in the scripture it can not take hold of the hand of God and his integrity is not at stake

All of God's s works here on earth are in answer to prayer.

Get anointed books and the scripture and start from genesis...

I can even for your sake ,, regularly post my church notes here even that of today.

Nodogragra4me:
Thank you sir but the only grace that is freely available is the grace for salvation.
Paul was saved the very day he came in contact with God , afterwards, he walked with the Lord.

If this guy can get a book on the blood and anointing oil and settle down and eat both and then partake of anointing and communion service, he will be free.

The biggest and best arsenal in the armoury of the believer is the blood. According to Bishop Oyedepo, it is God last card for the rescue of the saint. After it, good has nothing to offer any believer.

It is not used against small clowns in satan's court but against the devil himself... They overcame him, satan, by the blood of the lamb and THE WORD of their testimony....what are the testifying against from the word... Rev 12:11

What is the word of your testimony made of? God didn't promised to ensure that your prayer of words didn't fall to the ground but His

Bless you

Ok Bro....

No issues..... God would help all of us...

EnthronedbyGod:




The servant of the lord must not strive, The Bible also says we shouldn't strive about words. When you try to reason with people and they keep on arguing. You have no option than to ignore them.


Many people think they know God's ways but they don't. They relegate prayers and talk only about the word. That's why we have more carnal Christians than spiritual.


I think it's better you agree to disagree with those arguing with you than to continue, cos it'll turn to strive.

This is my candid advice.

God bless.

Yes sir...

Except one has deep understanding of deliverance, They find it difflicult to understand what we talking about.

God continue to keep and increase you...

Shalom

Nodogragra4me:



This is an extract from my first contribution on the Op last post where he mentioned pastor and deliverance

It is only the continuous entrance of the word...remember that verse says, the entrance of thy WORDS not word...therefore you have to hear many of the words and allow many to enter not just one word.... and learning about prayer... Prayer that enters heaven not the one that is sweet to the ears of men but that which takes hold of the mighty hand of God and moves it your affair.


Prayer language is found only in the scripture... It is not a product of much intelligence... Meditate on the word and sincerely ask God through Christ into your life and divine direction will follow

You need pastors but be watchful. If the solution is not in the scripture it can not take hold of the hand of God and his integrity is not at stake

All of God's s works here on earth are in answer to prayer.

Get anointed books and the scripture and start from genesis...

I can even for your sake ,, regularly post my church notes here even that of today.

I didn't disagree with your comment in anyway, you were the one that quoted me back and it was your quote I was referring to where you talked about not trying to belittle my experience and also indirectly telling me I wasn't a good student of the word, that that's why it took me 8years.

If you didn't say that I won't have tried disproving you by telling you I had read the word more than 120times, neither would I have told you about my calling in Christ.

Despite what I told you, you still said indirectly that it wasn't about how much times the word is read or memorised , but by how much light enters.
So you think I'll read the word more than 120times without having any entrance of the light of God(funny).

Let's leave the argument, cos I can be of help to you or someone you know in the future


I don't like arguments,cos it leads to strive.

madprophet:


Yes sir...

Except one has deep understanding of deliverance, They find it difflicult to understand what we talking about.

God continue to keep and increase you...

Shalom

Amen.

.

MyphoneandI:
I wanna share my experience with cultists too.

When I was younger I was very stubborn, I had a lot of friends and knew a lot of people. There's a guy on my street who was a jvc. I was interested in this stuff, so I asked him how it was going. He told me everything about it, gave me full ot before I even bam. But when I heard that "baggars are looters" I lost interest. I stubborn yes, but I no like thief. This guy who was my childhood friend got angry with me o and brought some boys to torment my life. I was seeking admission then and these guys tracked me to my jamb lesson and wanted to collect my stuff, I ran away.

There's another guy we call bobo, he was big and fierce and a very strong axeman. But this guy had mad love for me(no homo). I was like a younger brother to him. That night I ran straight to bobo's house almost crying. I explained everything to him and he started laughing. He called some guys and the next day they went to the jvc house. D guy wasn't home, the dropped message for him, baba ran away from home. He later called his brother to come and beg me and still settled bobo for disturbing me.

Now my love for this stuff increased. I love power. I wanted it badly.
I met bobo that I wanted to be an axeman, I wanted to be a strong man. The head of all axemen in my area then o, he told me "spit that nonsense from ur mouth" "as u dey fine like this u no like am" "as u dey get rest of mind so, u no like am" "you no like am as u dey waka without looking backing in fear, u wan dey watch ur back until you die"
So I listened to him and I stayed off cultism. However because of the kinda parole I did, I was nicknamed king of the JUs cos I was friends with everyone and enemies with everyone lol.


So a few years later, I'm an officer cadet with the Navy, my mom has a hospital. I was in the hospital when a guy brought his brother to see my mom. Boy that face was ever fresh in my head despite all the years, the main person who came with that jvc to my lesson years ago. The same guy who wanted to obtain me. He had forgotten me because as usual the axe will forget but the tree will never forget. I called him aside, he was still wearing red and black bangle and red socks. I asked him "do you remember me" he said no. I said let me see ur phone, he was skeptical but he don see camo lol he gave me his iPhone 6s+, I put it in my pocket. Then I reminded him of the encounter. "this man sit on the deck, you're sailing Iceland I'm sailing Nigerian Navy, we go know who senior today" lol. Baba dey nearly cry the beg lol. I just pity the fool give am him phone.

My people, frat no dey pay, especially if you carry am for head. You'd die or live a life worse than death.

"Friend with Everyone and Enemy with Everyone "
Baba u too much

I hope op will drop more stories tomorrow July 10 a day great ife will never forget. Afrika and 4 other students were murdered by cultists. 20 years ago,just like yesterday.

Olanireti:
This is another true life story on cultism. Best story I ever read on nairaland. I recommend it.


https://www.nairaland.com/1399216/confessions-rough-rugged-n-raw

Nothing here... Just too many hidden details.

Teeboy15:


I don't understand bro. Prophet of fire how?
Praying for 3 days to what purpose?

Hahahahahaha una no go kii me for this NL

Tonyspecial:
"Friend with Everyone and Enemy with Everyone "
Baba u too much

My brother I treat all men equally. I don't care about what mistakes they have made or what heights they have attained. So I'm friends with everyone until they prove otherwise

Deep calleth unto deep. When God wants you for an assignment, He sheds off satanic yokes, grabs your hand and take you to a depth not meant for those contented with shallowness. He won't just let you off Satan's hook for you to self indulge the rest of your life.He sets you apart like He did for Paul and equip you for the task ahead. May God bless and uphold you sir. author=EnthronedbyGod post=80087397][/quote]

Bodydialect57:
Deep calleth unto deep. When God wants you for an assignment, He sheds off satanic yokes, grabs your hand and take you to a depth not meant for those contented with shallowness. He won't just let you off Satan's hook for you to self indulge the rest of your life.He sets you apart like He did for Paul and equip you for the task ahead. May God bless and uphold you sir. author=EnthronedbyGod post=80087397]

Not everyone understands that.
Amen and God bless you and grant your heart desires

Amen

EnthronedbyGod:




Not everyone understands that.
Amen and God bless you and grant your heart desires

Just imagine where they are initiating you into the Cult, the usual flogging and Matching that takes Hours, What if you die at that process?
What will you tell GOD?

A Person who Love you will NEVER tell you to join Cult be it a Cultist or Non-Cultist, so anyone telling you to Join cult.. Run away from that person and Never Look back or go close to the person again...

A word is enough for the wise

privaldo:

You seem to be an Apache member because you called yourself a soldier and said you were born in the absence of light and darkness, which is a popular 2,2 saying

Tryna make way for all the solid axemen out there.. OK?

Korofo guides

When 7 rival runs men base you down you go know say Na only GOD dey.

Your korofo go fail you, your MY go fail you and the only thing you go dey talk Na had I know.

Use your 6, read your bible and throw away your 7. No champion for anywhere o. Na because tree near tree Na him dey make monkey think say he get skills.

Say no to cultism.

Fgbread:


Tryna make way for all the solid axemen out there.. OK?

Korofo guides

MyphoneandI:


My brother I treat all men equally. I don't care about what mistakes they have made or what heights they have attained. So I'm friends with everyone until they prove otherwise

I Konkor Baba

i will read this later

Slimzjoe:

Interesting story You have here OP although you might have Exaggerated a thing or two so much tho

I'm a Delsu student, currently in my Finals and I've seen a lot. Delsu is not as bad as You've actually painted it but then I believe it's all for the story. Take care

currently in finals. 2019. Highest you entered school 2014. 6 years sec school plus 5years pry school equals 11 years. 2014-11=2003. Most of these things happened when you were a baby. Just read ,learn and share to others. Desist from contributing in any form. My advice for a final year student

Shibaraba:
currently in finals. 2019. Highest you entered school 2014. 6 years sec school plus 5years pry school equals 11 years. 2014-11=2003. Most of these things happened when you were a baby. Just read ,learn and share to others. Desist from contributing in any form. My advice for a final year student

Uncle Please Calm down. I wasn't a Baby in 2003. And I will contribute because its My right or You want to come after me? I they the Abraka.
I know what I meant when I said OP Exaggerated a bit.

Slimzjoe:



Uncle Please Calm down. I wasn't a Baby in 2003. And I will contribute because its My right or You want to come after me? I they the Abraka.
I know what I meant when I said OP Exaggerated a bit.

Come after you? You said you weren't a baby, stop acting like one. Make we enjoy this thread Abeg stop derailing

@saynotocultism today makes it 20 yrs that we lost some of our heroes in IFE.
An attack that was carried out by NBM majorly 4rm Uniben.

Sir I would like to ask as an ex member who was a also a leader. I'm very sure u must ve known or heard about this attack b4 and probably met the real actors.

Can u pls tell us that story