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Dantedasz:
Did you watch the animation at all?
The atheist has no vendetta against God,he only wants God to prove his existence rationally. The simple fact is there are thousands of religions with most of them having a stick and carrot system of punishment in hell and reward in heaven. So which religion is the right one? The thousands of religions CANNOT all be right. So that means if you choose the wrong religion you end up in hell. It is not a matter of believing in God alone-you have to believe in the correct God or you go to the endless incinerator machine.
By the way you should also consider the fact that if God does exist,he might actually want you to rationally question his existence. Have you ever reasoned that why would an omniscient,omnipotent creator being need you to sing praises to him/her before doing things for the creations he/she claims to love?

On a final note taking a risk to believe in one religion over the other as a mode of salvation sounds cute and nice,but the fact is ALL the religions could be WRONG about this concept of heaven and hell.

Nwadiuto247:
Oga the bible called them fools!! and that's what they are..

Ubdavis:
The devil is always black, why??

Dami12345:
Cause blacks are always evil. And will have to pay all them lives.
Black Mariya.
Black mail.
Black list.
Blacked.
Black death.

All to make the black race feel less and less.

Ubdavis:
That is not the way it should be,the black race keeps on demeaning themselves..

Dami12345:
Because we don't have our history and ideology.

The truth is mordern civilization came from Egypt and in Egypt. Black is the color of fertility. White is the color of death and old age. Sickness is pale and sickly skin.

Even the Japanese use with for death. Then look at Islam. White to wrap the bodies.

Black has always represented good. But the whites jealous and threatened came and changed us. And in our naïvity we took it.

Jessicha:
Your entire post at red drives to one angle, that is, ONE single person manifesting in different forms . but I disagree , Jesus on earth proved they are TWO different persons, so this shed light on the voice at his baptism.

John 8:17,18 " Also, in your own law it Is written: ' The witness of TWO men is true ' . I am one who bears witness about MYSELF ( person 1) , and the Father who sent me bears witness about me ( person 2) "

To say they are one same person is to make Jesus a liar

hardasan:
Jesus never said his father is different from him.
John 14:8 (KJV) Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
John 14:9 (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 14:10 (KJV) Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

The above verses mean that God the Father is living inside Jesus and talking through Jesus of the same God the father who is in heaven or is the scripture lying?

Matthew 28:19 (KJV) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

Acts 2:38 (KJV) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Here see the how the apostles themselves carried out the command of the Lord Jesus which was given in Matthew ch 28vs19. They understood that the name of the Father is Jesus, the name of the Son is Jesus and the Holy Spirit is the same Jesus. That is why all that the apostles baptised or did, they did in the name of Jesus because God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are titles and the name of God is Jesus shikena.

On a lighter note, U wont bind a demon in the name of the Father and of the son and of the Holy spirit if not, the demon may end up beating the hell outa you like it did in Acts ch 19 vs 13-16 to those exorcists

Jessicha:
Gosh, but some people have died in your Bible and none of them claimed to see hell after they were ressurected , Dorcas, Jairus daughter, Eutichus , widows son. 4 days dead Lazarus of bethany, are u saying the Bible accounts are scam ?

luluosas:
Hmmm. You reason shallow because you have no understanding. Sorry if offended please. Thank you

Jessicha:
You who have understanding , why not challenge the point raised ?

luluosas:
My dear Jessica, please, avoid hell fire like a plague. It does exist for sinners who refuses the Lordship of Jesus Christ over them. It is well with you. Happy Easter Sunday

Jessicha:
Read my post again dear, he already clarified they are TWO. The witness of TWO men is true .

Unless you meant he lied

Jessicha:
Drop your emotion or what UV been taught and speak with fact
I said no ressurected person died and claim to see heaven or hell. Deal with it.

hardasan:
In my bible, Jesus said he and his father are one.
Kindly quote where he said he and his father are two.
Or was Jesus lying when he said He and his father are one

John 8:18 (KJV) I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

John 8:19 (KJV) Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

If you still dont understand the emboldened, let me dramatise it,

Me to Jess:
"My spirit is stronger than my physical body, if you doubt me try to attack me spiritually and my spirit will deal with you"

Jess to me:
Show me your spirit,

Me to jess:
what kinda question is that? Dont u know my spirit is in me?

Example 2:
My actions testify of my integrity. If u wont believe my words, believe me because of my actions which testify of me.

This sentence doesnt prove that I and my actions are different.

luluosas:
I don't need their testimony, and in as much as nothing of such was recorded, I have no business to debate over what they saw or not in the their deaths. However, let me share with you the testimony of my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. If you like believe, if you like, argue about it. But know that hell fire indeed exists. Thank you

Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 AND IN HELL HE LIFT UP HIS EYES, BEING IN TORMENTS, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Jessicha:
That's a wrong hypothesis. He clearly says the witness of TWO men Is true and he applied it to himself and his Father . You and your spirit are not two persons. So that disqualify the hypothetical illustration u gave

And for two persons been one, are couple not two person But ONE according to the Bible ? Does that make them same person ?

Jessicha:
That's a wrong hypothesis. He clearly says the witness of TWO men Is true and he applied it to himself and his Father . You and your spirit are not two persons. So that disqualify the hypothetical illustration u gave

And for two persons been one, are couple not two person But ONE according to the Bible ? Does that make them same person ?

Dami12345:
I want this book how can I get it.

Aaronsrod:
Atheists are fools!!

To avoid Hellfire I would believe in absolutely anything.

It is well.

Michellekabod2:
You are a dysfunctional m0ron. A glorified tout deficient in wisdom and daft!

Dantedasz:
You need to chill out and take things easy. Aaronsrod was just being sarcastic. He is an atheist using Christian logic to poke fun at christianity.

Michellekabod2:
Oh my....I guess I ought to make an apology....

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OtemAtum:
There's no hell. Check the book of universal truth. Currently Yahweh your god is held in a spiritual cage.

Vicoymi:
who actually is holding him??

OtemAtum:
The gods of science, including Atum, Olorun, Ra, etc are holding not only him ,but also thousands others.

Read Otem Erectus 226 : 1 to the end

Vicoymi:
Then who is the greatest among all God's??

OtemAtum:
The Light of God Almighty(aka Knoliud) is the greatest of them. However, God Almighty is not a humanlike being but a the Totality of Existence. Therefore you, I, our siblings, friends, etc are part of God Almighty.

Vicoymi:
so you are implying that humans are greater than God and other God's?

OtemAtum:
Humans are part of God. The gods are also parts of God.

Vicoymi:
so why can't we change all the things we don't like in the world, besides why do we die, since we are the almighty God??

OtemAtum:
Dying means changing of position. You die on earth to live somewhere else. The earth is one of the numerous planets where we are meant to be limited. The gravity of the earth is weighing down on our body. But I bet you there are many planets or spaces where we are almost unlimited and they are the afterlives. That we are limited on earth here doesn’t mean we will be limited everywhere within existence.