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Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 7:21am On Jul 14, 2019
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There you go my atheist friend!
According military intelligence,it's the DISTURBED that's prone to name calling due to anger, frustration and sense of defeat!

On the other hand, undisturbed {victorious} only make irrefutable presentations Sir! cheesy
LordReed:


Yes CLOWN I didn't disturb you but you persist in disturbing me so disturbed CLOWN, keep disturbing me.
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 7:44am On Jul 14, 2019
Maximus69:
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There you go my atheist friend, according to our research in the military intelligence, it's the DISTURBED that's prone to name calling due to anger, frustration and sense of defeat!

On the other hand, undisturbed {victorious} only make irrefutable presentations Sir! cheesy


LMAO! When you called me disturbed you didn't know it was name calling now that the tables are turned you feel the pinch. Mr Updated Intelligence. Keep disturbing yourself on my behalf, this is fun.
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 7:52am On Jul 14, 2019
LordReed:


LMAO! When you called me disturbed you didn't know it was name calling now that the tables are turned you feel the pinch. Mr Updated Intelligence. Keep disturbing yourself on my behalf, this is fun.

Wow!
I never knew an atheist is NOT disturbed, but has purposely joined a forum and spent years arguing endlessly on the RELIGIOUS section! cheesy
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 8:00am On Jul 14, 2019
Maximus69:


Wow!
I never knew an atheist is NOT disturbed, but has purposely joined a forum and spent years arguing endlessly on the RELIGIOUS section! cheesy

Am I using your resources? Why are you disturbed about it? Are you jobless? Why not report me to your god instead of making noise here?
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by greenskittles: 8:05am On Jul 14, 2019
delishpot:

So God did not in the beginning have it the way it is in mind.
Are you listening to yourself? An omnipotent, omnipresent, PERFECT being "changed his mind"?? Perfection is incongruent with change. Something properly working has no need to be altered. To suggest that God has the same capricious thought process as human beings is ridiculous. Please come up with a better reply.
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 8:21am On Jul 14, 2019
LordReed:


Am I using your resources? Why are you disturbed about it? Are you jobless? Why not report me to your god instead of making noise here?

You are here on a religious forum, always arguing day and night just to tell those claiming believers to forget about their God!
You keep quoting their books which shows that you've read the book over and over again, but instead of relieving yourself of all the stress, you intend to carry their burden on yourself. And when someone is telling you something is missing in your strategy you flair up and result to insult!

My friend, STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF!

The concept of God's existence is not about seeing him do something neither hearing anything directly from him, it's about the driving force of making intelligent creatures think alike!

So if you don't believe in God, then there is no sense in expecting intelligent creatures like you, Who are also free moral agents to accept, agree or compelled to reason along with you! cheesy
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by kazyhm(m): 8:28am On Jul 14, 2019
Its similar to the question I asked a Muslims friend then and he couldn't come up with an answer........its was dawn on him too that he didn't really know anything outside what he was told......

The question was; why is female criteria for solat different from male, does that mean female are going to be judge with different standard from male.

If righteous males are going to be rewarded with virgins females, what is the reward for righteous females ?
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 8:36am On Jul 14, 2019
Maximus69:


You are here on a religious forum, always arguing day and night just to tell those claiming believers to forget about their God!
You keep quoting their books which shows that you've read the book over and over again, but instead of relieving yourself of all the stress, you intend to carry their burden on yourself. And when someone is telling you something is missing in your strategy you flair up and result to insult!

My friend, STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF!

The concept of God's existence is not about seeing him do something neither hearing anything directly from him, it's about the driving force of making intelligent creatures think alike!

So if you don't believe in God, then there is no sense in expecting intelligent creatures like you, Who are also free moral agents to accept, agree or compelled to reason along with you! cheesy

When I try to convert you you can pipe up. For all our interactions it is you seeking to convert me so keep disturbing yourself about me, the fun continues.
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by frank317: 8:45am On Jul 14, 2019
Maximus69:


You are here on a religious forum, always arguing day and night just to tell those claiming believers to forget about their God!
You keep quoting their books which shows that you've read the book over and over again, but instead of relieving yourself of all the stress, you intend to carry their burden on yourself. And when someone is telling you something is missing in your strategy you flair up and result to insult!

My friend, STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF!

The concept of God's existence is not about seeing him do something neither hearing anything directly from him, it's about the driving force of making intelligent creatures think alike!

So if you don't believe in God, then there is no sense in expecting intelligent creatures like you, Who are also free moral agents to accept, agree or compelled to reason along with you! cheesy

What's ur point? U don't want anyone to argue that God probably don't exist if he feels so ?

@ ur last paragraph... Why?

I don't believe any known God exists, and so when religion people come preaching to me or when I read some lies (so I feel) about a God that does not exist I tell them its a lie and we begin to argue? I have mouth and brain for a reason u know.
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 8:57am On Jul 14, 2019
LordReed:


When I try to convert you you can pipe up. For all our interactions it is you seeking to convert me so keep disturbing yourself about me, the fun continues.

Hmmm,

You see what i mean? wink

Intelligence has beaten intelligence here! cheesy

All your effort here on this forum is to change people's minds, but it has all proved futile because atheism is another religion on its own, and only those whose minds are twisted goes for it!

Know today that whoever tells you 'God spoke vividly with me today' is an advocate of atheism and NOT a believer. Because faith is not seeing or hearing from God, it's about being convinced with the movement of like minded adherents all dwelling peacefully together in love!
All what misinformed religionists taught you in the past about God is UNTRUE, in fact that's the main reason why you're bent on PERSONALLY seeing or hearing from God and that he will never do!
As long as there are those unitedly doing his will, he is patient for honesthearted individuals to reason along with them before he return all others to dust!

I know my words are powerful and have heated you badly, so i'll leave you in your hopelessness. But be assured today that you can never withstand a TRUE Christian in the face of PSYCHOLOGICAL battle.

Before a true Christian, you LordReed will be humbled! wink
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 9:07am On Jul 14, 2019
Maximus69:


Hmmm,

You see what i mean? wink

Intelligence has beaten intelligence here! cheesy

All your effort here on this forum is to change people's minds, but it has all proved futile because atheism is another religion on its own, and only those whose minds are twisted goes for it!

Know today that whoever tells you 'God spoke vividly with me today' is an advocate of atheism and NOT a believer. Because faith is not seeing or hearing from God, it's about being convinced with the movement of like minded adherents all dwelling peacefully together in love!
All what misinformed religionists taught you in the past about God is UNTRUE, in fact that's the main reason why you're bent on PERSONALLY seeing or hearing from God and that he will never do!
As long as there are those unitedly doing his will, he is patient for honesthearted individuals to reason along with them before he return all others to dust!

I know my words are powerful and have heated you badly, so i'll leave you in your hopelessness. But be assured today that you can never withstand a TRUE Christian in the face of PSYCHOLOGICAL battle.

Before a true Christian, you LordReed will be humbled! wink

Story story, story. Your words are as important as the Cinderella story. Yeah the one deceiving theirself is you, feigning humility and hoping that someday I will kotow to you, LMAO! In your dreams buddy, in your freaking dreams. LMFAO!
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 9:09am On Jul 14, 2019
frank317:


What's ur point? U don't want anyone to argue that God probably don't exist if he feels so ?

@ ur last paragraph... Why?

I don't believe any known God exists, and so when religion people come preaching to me or when I read some lies (so I feel) about a God that does not exist I tell them its a lie and we begin to argue? I have mouth and brain for a reason u know.

You're right Sir,
YES, each of us all have mouth and brain for a reason!
That's why we try to reason together for the benefit of one and all.
But what most people claiming atheists don't know is that atheism is not just the idea of discarding the existence of God alone, it's much more than that!
All those claiming believers but telling others "God asked me to tell you" anything that's not documented today are all atheists as well. Because they're the ones fast recruiting people for atheism than those already claiming atheists!
The existence of God has nothing to do with seeing him do something spectacular or hearing DIRECTLY from him now, it about seeing those who are unitedly worshiping together peacefully as one happy global family! Isaiah 2:2-4
That's why he called them his Witnesses. Isaiah 43:10-12
You wouldn't need any Witnesses if everyone is SEEING you doing something, would you? smiley
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 9:13am On Jul 14, 2019
LordReed:


Story story, story. Your words are as important as the Cinderella story. Yeah the one deceiving theirself is you, feigning humility and hoping that someday I will kotow to you, LMAO! In your dreams buddy, in your freaking dreams. LMFAO!
Farewell my friend! wink
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by frank317: 10:06am On Jul 14, 2019
sometimes its good to break your response to bit by bit and analyze them so show how disjointed they are

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Maximus69:


You're right Sir,
YES, each of us all have mouth and brain for a reason!
That's why we try to reason together for the benefit of one and all.
nice you agree to this but, why do you get offended and start calling us out when we try reasoning with u.


But what most people claiming atheists don't know is that atheism is not just the idea of discarding the existence of God alone, it's much more than that!
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wow!!! what happens to reasoning together... when u make such unfounded claim be ready to back it up or u will be called out and called delusion. pray tell... what s atheism if not discarding the existence of God based on the fact that there is no prove of him?


All those claiming believers but telling others "God asked me to tell you" anything that's not documented today are all atheists as well. Because they're the ones fast recruiting people for atheism than those already claiming atheists!
i think this is an issue u have to settle with ur fellow Christians like jesusjnr. Christians, even your pastors have been telling other 'God asked me to tell you' since the beginning of Christianity. Afterall, Jesus started it by claiming to be God himself. what a joke... God came to earth in human form and thought us nothing.


The existence of God has nothing to do with seeing him do something spectacular or hearing DIRECTLY from him now, it about seeing those who are unitedly worshiping together peacefully as one happy global family! Isaiah 2:2-4
how does this make sense? is the existence of God is just about worshiping together, what then is the meaning of "God exists'? how do just make such disjointed statements and not feel unintelligent?
i have been living happily and peacfully with people around me and i Dont believe a known God exists. pls next time, read before u post. if u have never seen, heard or felt God, u have no business arguing he exists.


That's why he called them his Witnesses. Isaiah 43:10-12
You wouldn't need any Witnesses if everyone is SEEING you doing something, would you? smiley
witness to what u have never seen? witness to what exactly?

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Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 10:34am On Jul 14, 2019
Maximus69:

Farewell my friend! wink

Bye buddy.
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by orisa37: 10:58am On Jul 14, 2019
Somebody's Theory. Some Theories also say, "The Work of God is incomprehensible".


God also created Nephilims males and females, humanoids that are different from Adam and his after thought Eve.
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Chiprince007(m): 11:14am On Jul 14, 2019
Hmmmm. This is interesting.
Well, looking at the post, I discovered that its simply a reading problem. Imagine male and female trees LOL. But that aside, I want us to go back to Genesis 1:25-28

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

So as we can see, it was man he spoke of that was created male and female. Genesis 1 just speaks about the entire creation.
God bless you guys
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Funaki: 11:24am On Jul 14, 2019
Chiprince007:
Hmmmm. This is interesting.
Well, looking at the post, I discovered that its simply a reading problem. Imagine male and female trees LOL. But that aside, I want us to go back to Genesis 1:25-28

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

So as we can see, it was man he spoke of that was created male and female. Genesis 1 just speaks about the entire creation.
God bless you guys

Genesis 1:27 was the summary. The real gist was in Genesis 2. Or there are two different stories of man's creation in the bible? or man was created twice?
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 11:36am On Jul 14, 2019
frank317:
sometimes its good to break your response to bit by bit and analyze them so show how disjointed they are

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nice you agree to this but, why do you get offended and start calling us out when we try reasoning with u.

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wow!!! what happens to reasoning together... when u make such unfounded claim be ready to back it up or u will be called out and called delusion. pray tell... what s atheism if not discarding the existence of God based on the fact that there is no prove of him?


i think this is an issue u have to settle with ur fellow Christians like jesusjnr. Christians, even your pastors have been telling other 'God asked me to tell you' since the beginning of Christianity. Afterall, Jesus started it by claiming to be God himself. what a joke... God came to earth in human form and thought us nothing.


how does this make sense? is the existence of God is just about worshiping together, what then is the meaning of "God exists'? how do just make such disjointed statements and not feel unintelligent?
i have been living happily and peacfully with people around me and i Dont believe a known God exists. pls next time, read before u post. if u have never seen, heard or felt God, u have no business arguing he exists.


witness to what u have never seen? witness to what exactly?

Action speaks louder than words nah!

You might be confused with the utterances of crooked intelligent creatures but we TRUE Christians do see beyond mere utterance Sir!

You're just claiming atheists by mere words of mouth, we identify the REAL atheists by their deeds! Matthew 7:15-20 Mark 7:6

So calm down Mr atheist, you're not REAL! wink
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by frank317: 12:02pm On Jul 14, 2019
Maximus69:


Action speaks louder than words nah!

You might be confused with the utterances of crooked intelligent creatures but we TRUE Christians do see beyond mere utterance Sir!

You're just claiming atheists by mere words of mouth, we identify the REAL atheists by their deeds! Matthew 7:15-20 Mark 7:6

So calm down Mr atheist, you're not REAL! wink

Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 12:07pm On Jul 14, 2019
Most of you became atheists after realizing all what you've lost to the REAL atheists. They profess they know God but disown him by their deeds! 2Timothy 3:5

So before you boldly speak for atheism, remember your fathers {those who deluded you with false ideas} making you stand against God UNSEEN only to support yet another God EVOLUSION thay you're NOT seeing? cheesy
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by frank317: 12:18pm On Jul 14, 2019
Maximus69:
Most of you became atheists after realizing all what you've lost to the REAL atheists. They profess they know God but disown him by their deeds! 2Timothy 3:5

So before you boldly speak for atheism, remember your fathers {those who deluded you with false ideas} making you stand against God UNSEEN only to support yet another God EVOLUSION thay you're NOT seeing? cheesy

I am still waiting for u to really make sense.

People become atheists for different reason... Some due to research that revealed some secrets, some by asking questions, some because the actions of Christians and Muslims, some by reading the bible and realizing no reasonable God can inspire such nonsense fairy tales... But what don't understand is what u are all about
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 12:24pm On Jul 14, 2019
Maximus69:
Most of you became atheists after realizing all what you've lost to the REAL atheists. They profess they know God but disown him by their deeds! 2Timothy 3:5

So before you boldly speak for atheism, remember your fathers {those who deluded you with false ideas} making you stand against God UNSEEN only to support yet another God EVOLUSION thay you're NOT seeing? cheesy

So there are no ex-JW atheists?
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Chiprince007(m): 12:27pm On Jul 14, 2019
Funaki:


Genesis 1:27 was the summary. The real gist was in Genesis 2. Or there are two different stories of man's creation in the bible? or man was created twice?
OK, like you said Genesis 1 spoke about the entire creation I.e it just gave brief summary of the the creation story. When we look at Genesis 2, we begin to see the creation of man in details, what brought about the man's creation , the garden and every other thing
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 12:47pm On Jul 14, 2019
frank317:


I am still waiting for u to really make sense.

People become atheists for different reason... Some due to research that revealed some secrets, some by asking questions, some because the actions of Christians and Muslims, some by reading the bible and realizing no reasonable God can inspire such nonsense fairy tales... But what don't understand is what u are all about

There are just two types of REAL atheists.

(1) Those who hides their thoughts professing God exists : They engaged in the most disgusting things you can't even think of in the hidden, because they're fully convinced within them that there is nothing like God, and they use the opportunity to enslave gullible people!


(2) Those who are truthfully convinced within them that there is nothing like God: They're happily going their ways peacefully as freethinkers NOT spending a minute with religionists over what they're convinced doesn't exist!

But you who claiming atheists out of frustration and grief aren't real, because you're just sitting on the fence. You're neither here or there. It's just the agony of loosing so much to the real atheists that's making you agitate profusely instead of blissfully going you way! wink
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 1:08pm On Jul 14, 2019
LordReed:


So there are no ex-JW atheists?

After bidding each other farewell, are you still calling on the one DISTURBING you? cheesy

Well you wish to know, and it's my duty to enlighten you.

I know most of you will insist the response should be YES or NO, but that's not the case here.

Your answer!

We are given freewill thought not absolute!
¤Many don't cherish having others examine their lifestyle so they'll hate the idea of worshipping a God who wants us to be our brother's keepers {Genesis 4:9} such individuals will never like worshipping with people who truly care!
¤Many were born by atheists claiming believers, and such atheists could be found anywhere as in any religion. So it's their DEEDS that will lead even right thinking children to discard the concept of God!

There are just two types of Witnesses. Those declaring the existence of God by words, thoughts and deeds.
And those discarding the existence of God by words, thoughts and deeds.

You can only recognize them BY THEIR FRUITS, this means the end result or overall behaviour of the adherents of what's taught in their gathering!

As for most of you here on NL, you're just sitting on the fence! wink
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 1:50pm On Jul 14, 2019
Maximus69:


After bidding each other farewell, are you still calling on the one DISTURBING you? cheesy

Well you wish to know, and it's my duty to enlighten you.

I know most of you will insist the response should be YES or NO, but that's not the case here.

Your answer!

We are given freewill thought not absolute!
¤Many don't cherish having others examine their lifestyle so they'll hate the idea of worshipping a God who wants us to be our brother's keepers {Genesis 4:9} such individuals will never like worshipping with people who truly care!
¤Many were born by atheists claiming believers, and such atheists could be found anywhere as in any religion. So it's their DEEDS that will lead even right thinking children to discard the concept of God!

There are just two types of Witnesses. Those declaring the existence of God by words, thoughts and deeds.
And those discarding the existence of God by words, thoughts and deeds.

You can only recognize them BY THEIR FRUITS, this means the end result or overall behaviour of the adherents of what's taught in their gathering!

As for most of you here on NL, you're just sitting on the fence! wink



LoL! So asking you a question is disturbing you? I didn't know if you say goodbye to someone it means you'll never meet them again.

So no true scotsman fallacy is your response, if someone leaves your organisation they were never really JWs even though they did everything a normal JW is supposed to do. LMFAO!
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Chiprince007(m): 2:01pm On Jul 14, 2019
LordReed:


LoL! So asking you a question is disturbing you? I didn't know if you say goodbye to someone it means you'll never meet them again.

So no true scotsman fallacy is your response, if someone leaves your organisation they were never really JWs even though they did everything a normal JW is supposed to do. LMFAO!
Good day LordReed. Have seen a lot of posts you've made on nairaland. But I want to sincerely ask you your reasons for being an atheist. Hope this question is not offensive
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 2:18pm On Jul 14, 2019
Chiprince007:

Good day LordReed. Have seen a lot of posts you've made on nairaland. But I want to sincerely ask you your reasons for being an atheist. Hope this question is not offensive

It is not offensive. Very simply, I could no longer believe in the claims of the bible since they did not match reality, don't have evidence and will require me to do mental gymnastics in other to defend.
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by frank317: 4:51pm On Jul 14, 2019
Maximus69:


There are just two types of REAL atheists.

(1) Those who hides their thoughts professing God exists : They engaged in the most disgusting things you can't even think of in the hidden, because they're fully convinced within them that there is nothing like God, and they use the opportunity to enslave gullible people!
Ok


(2) Those who are truthfully convinced within them that there is nothing like God: They're happily going their ways peacefully as freethinkers NOT spending a minute with religionists over what they're convinced doesn't exist!
Smh... U want to tell people who are truthfully convinced that God does not exist what to do? How many people that are truthfully convinced God exists happily go their way peacefully as believers and not spend minute with unbelievers over what they are convinced exists?
U are OK with believers going around preaching to whoever they see on the street, in the bus disturbing neighborhood with morning cry, but here u are trying to tell atheists who are only online challenging what they think is false what to do.
If happily going around peacefully and not challenging theists makes one a true atheists, then u should also advocate that true believers should also keep their believes to themselves.


But you who claiming atheists out of frustration and grief aren't real, because you're just sitting on the fence. You're neither here or there. It's just the agony of loosing so much to the real atheists that's making you agitate profusely instead of blissfully going you way! wink

I wouldn't necessarily reply to this because u are just being emotional rather than sensible
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by frank317: 5:11pm On Jul 14, 2019
Chiprince007:

Good day LordReed. Have seen a lot of posts you've made on nairaland. But I want to sincerely ask you your reasons for being an atheist. Hope this question is not offensive

The question should be: why are u a Christian? You worship a God that have never been seen? That requires your fellow men to convince u he exists, that the only info about him are disjointed messages written by unknown ancient men? That stories about him says he needs worship, gets angry, gets jealous just like ordinary man, he makes mistakes and regrets, created a devil that has been messing with him since the beginning, the list goes on and on. Yet, worshiping him makes no one special, u die like anybody else, work hard to make a living even after all all ur prayers, vigil and fasting... Why exactly are u a Christian?
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 7:22pm On Jul 14, 2019
frank317:

Ok


Smh... U want to tell people who are truthfully convinced that God does not exist what to do? How many people that are truthfully convinced God exists happily go their way peacefully as believers and not spend minute with unbelievers over what they are convinced exists?
U are OK with believers going around preaching to whoever they see on the street, in the bus disturbing neighborhood with morning cry, but here u are trying to tell atheists who are only online challenging what they think is false what to do.
If happily going around peacefully and not challenging theists makes one a true atheists, then u should also advocate that true believers should also keep their believes to themselves.



I wouldn't necessarily reply to this because u are just being emotional rather than sensible

The TRUTH is right before you Sir. It's indisputable and there's nothing you can say to refute it!

Believers were commissioned to "go out and make disciples" so they're still on track. If you meet them on the road doing what their book say, would it make any sense trying to silence them over what they're compelled to do? undecided

But atheism is about "no mind controlling" which means there's no need to convince anyone or pester anyone to have a CHANGE of heart and start reasoning along with you. Whichever way an intelligent being has concluded to live his/her life is OK. undecided
So what you guys are doing here totally contradicts the norms of your own faculty! embarassed

That's my point Sir!

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