falopey:
what proper research are you talking about. $18 dollar is the minimum wage in Australia. Besides there are people earning less than that still. How much is that in USD? $12. You guys talking like they are using the same dollar value

good little by little i am correcting your error. Now dont dare come with some states are paying more because as at this minute as clearly stated in the united states laws their hourly pay is $7.25. We argue with facts and not sentiment. I dont give a poo if they increasing it tomorrow, the facts is there for all to see. The US wage is $7.25. Bye

Make una leave our country for us we like am like that, I cut my bills down according to my power and I still save compare to those days in Europe..... Imagine you dey earn 20$/hr and you dey live Beverly hills how you Wan survive?

salford1:

Our city fire chief had to go to mexico for a cancer treatment. People shout healthcare, but they forget that if you are a professional in USA, your employer will cover your healthcare via insurance. One can die in Canada on a waitlist for healthcare. May God not let us fall seriously ill.

Canada's health system is very conservative. They are protecting the high paying health care jobs for their citizens. Eg. Doctors

I understand there are a lot of unemployed international medical graduates in the country but they are not licensed to practice.

Deola2020:


Are you for real or just being sarcastic?

Apart from gun issues, how is Canada any mate to USA in all ramifications ?

salford1:

AHS starts at $35. Alberta is the highest paying province in the prairie. I know the prairie very well having lived in Alberta and now living in Sask.

What is prairie?

Sirmuel1:



Which cheap likes are you talking about? That doesn't bother me.


Honestly, I love USA, But I would pick CANADA!

An ignorant child would pick toy over gold.
All the child needs is to know is the value of Gold and he would blame himself for his decision.

You obviously have never crossed the boarders of Nigeria and you are picking Canada over USA.

Basalt:


An ignorant child would pick toy over gold.
All the child needs is to know what is Gold and he would blame himself for his decision.

You obviously have never crossed the boarders of Nigeria and you are picking Canada over USA.

Nobody need to cross any border. It is all slavery. Nigeria is better than USA and Canada combined together

timesup234:
good little by little i am correcting your error. Now dont dare come with some states are paying more because as at this minute as clearly stated ihn the united states laws their hourly pay is $7.25. We argue with facts and not sentiment. I dont give a poo if they increasing it tomorrow, the facts is there for all to see. The US wage is $7.25. Bye

$7 is what you have on the book. It’s actually $12 in some places and $15 in some other places. But in actual fact. No one is being paid $7. For the most part. Even people taking orders in restaurant go home with more than $12. Even dish washers in hotels are not paid $7. No one will take up a job that pays $7. Not now when employers are scrambling to retain their employees . I assisted a Nigerian that just came to the US with getting a dish washing job operating industrial dish washing machine in a hotel without paper to start with so he could pay his bills. He’s being paid $9.5 per hour with $12 for overtime. That’s with no paper o and for the fact that the hotel was taking advantage of his situation .

Meanwhile another African American coworker that is operating the same machine with him is being paid $15 per hour washing the same dish

timesup234:
Nobody need to cross any border. It is all slavery. Nigeria is better than USA and Canada combined together

I like your courage.... Ehmmm when are you returning home?

Kingkun69:
leave them
They all say it isnt because they can't get in

You are fixated on the US because of your position of poverty,

Do you think Citizens from Countries with better living indices than the US, like Canada,Australia, Japan and the Scandinavians are in any rush to migrate to US with their overall inferior living standards?

Sarang:



I’m not but that’s a fact. AUSTRALIA PAYS BETTER THAN USA and so does CANADA..READ!

You obviously the person to read here.
Especially the Canada you mentioned

alphaNomega:


What is prairie?

The Canadian Prairies (usually referred to as simply the Prairies in Canada) is a region in Western Canada. It includes the Canadian portion of the Great Plains and the Prairie Provinces, namely Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba. These provinces are partially covered by grasslands, plains, and lowlands, mostly in the southern regions. - Wiki

There are cities/towns/villages which are majorly hours of drive between each other. When you drive outside major cities, the pic below may be what you will see for hours of driving: Native pasture, oil pump jacks and farmlands.
Wages are generally higher in the prairies than other parts of Canada. Could be because of the low population due to much cold and longer winters.

Originalsly:
I write from my New York City perspective. This is more for those who are planning on living here illegally. Do not do it... don't jump out of the frying pan and into the fire. Not discouragement.... but enlightenment. Don't count on people to help you...it is a dog eat dog situation. Sooo many opportunities would not be available to you.... for jobs... for housing... for transportation and for certain medical attention... you will have to pay out of pocket.
Today ICE is making sweeps to arrest illegal immigrants. The thing is... wherever they swoop down... they will drag not only their target... but everyone else around to check their status ...then off to the overcrowded detention centers.
Continued...actually...I did not even know I posted the above!

The fear I see while doing my rounds is alarming. People are soooo az fraid of ICE.... they been opening their doors for me at first knock...but now I have to convince them that I am who Insaid I am. If someone wants to host you.... their fear would be what if ICE raids and have them hauled in for harbouring an illegal? The situation is tense here. I know it is worse in other States where the residents are generally supportive of kicking out illegals. It is not surprising that we no longer hear much from those who always advise to stay away from Black areas... settle in White areas. Since Trump.... those people have been silent.
All the above... is just about fear.... fear because one is not legal.

It's a pity that those who are stuck here ... trapped... do not share their experiences... nor tell others of their pitfalls. Somehow... I have the feeling that misery loves company.

On vacation I'm not....status changed. For me.... to begin with... I was pressured to come by family members resident here. Feeding...clothing... housing... all transportation.... going to interviews... etc..... I had tremendous support. ...but that was my circumstances ...I didn't even have to look... my landing was well prepared.... all I needed to do was leap. What is your circumstances?...is your landing prepared? That's what this is all about.
My advice to anyone...visit first... before making a decision. You will see things from a wider perspective ... and be in a position to make good decisions.

another IT WILL BE PERMANENT WHAT THE LORD HAVE DONE FOR US IT SHALL BE PERMANENT ! write up. what hope do people have here in nigeria. facing ICE is far better than face the desert and been sold into slavery. still the condition here force people to risk it all.

AlliengodJ:



Majority of Nigeria citizens outside her country don't know how to fix easy math, moreover they want to live extravagant life higher than their income, imagine that guy talking about car loan, why get a car loan when 2 fortnight checks can get you a car to move around.... Lol

Exactly. Some persons don't plan and that's why they complain of cost of living. If one plan very well, one will live comfortably well in diaspora. Some live extravantly when it doesn't warrant such to stay comfortable. Bad planning and the urge to show off and live extravagant life style, I will say.

seanwilliam:
stop deceiving ur self for cheap like on nairaland. if you are given resident+job in the two, which will u choose?. America is and will be the greatest( whatever greatness means to u ) country in the world

I will choose Canada without batting an eyelid.

needful:
As canadian Citizen and canada being number one in quality and standard of life, i will never dreamt of living in usa. Atleast i can sleep very well, knowing fully well that my next door neighbour doesnt have a gun. I dont even visit usa on vacation not to talk about living there. I prefer places like Paris, switzerland, neitherlands etc.

Wow. this is strong o. You dont even visit your neighbour. the usa �
Even me living a small eu country . i prefer it more than usa

Originalsly:
I write from my New York City perspective. This is more for those who are planning on living here illegally. Do not do it... don't jump out of the frying pan and into the fire. Not discouragement.... but enlightenment. Don't count on people to help you...it is a dog eat dog situation. Sooo many opportunities would not be available to you.... for jobs... for housing... for transportation and for certain medical attention... you will have to pay out of pocket.
Today ICE is making sweeps to arrest illegal immigrants. The thing is... wherever they swoop down... they will drag not only their target... but everyone else around to check their status ...then off to the overcrowded detention centers.
Continued...actually...I did not even know I posted the above!

The fear I see while doing my rounds is alarming. People are soooo az fraid of ICE.... they been opening their doors for me at first knock...but now I have to convince them that I am who Insaid I am. If someone wants to host you.... their fear would be what if ICE raids and have them hauled in for harbouring an illegal? The situation is tense here. I know it is worse in other States where the residents are generally supportive of kicking out illegals. It is not surprising that we no longer hear much from those who always advise to stay away from Black areas... settle in White areas. Since Trump.... those people have been silent.
All the above... is just about fear.... fear because one is not legal.

It's a pity that those who are stuck here ... trapped... do not share their experiences... nor tell others of their pitfalls. Somehow... I have the feeling that misery loves company.

On vacation I'm not....status changed. For me.... to begin with... I was pressured to come by family members resident here. Feeding...clothing... housing... all transportation.... going to interviews... etc..... I had tremendous support. ...but that was my circumstances ...I didn't even have to look... my landing was well prepared.... all I needed to do was leap. What is your circumstances?...is your landing prepared? That's what this is all about.
My advice to anyone...visit first... before making a decision. You will see things from a wider perspective ... and be in a position to make good decisions.

Visit first ke?
Visit is meant for alaba, ariaria, onitsha ngwa, sokoto or markudi.
A nigerian cant visit newyork, we dey move to newyork!

ogbonti:


easier said than done.. do you think u will just marry and then they give u green card?

Once they interview you and your iyawo and something doesnt seem right, even to those who claim fell in love, that happens to them, and your adjustment petition is denied, they will put you on deportation proceedings immediately and the American who petitioned for you will be docked for perjury up to 10 years and or/ $10,000 fine... people i know that have suffered this fate are up to 20 Nigerians... u think visa interview is hard in Lagos? wait until you attend adjustment of status interview-----when those who have experienced it here tell their stories, your legs will freeze inside warm water out of fear

Thanks Bruv.Thinking of coming to America.What are the best procedures for getting a US green card? Is it true that we have more than 2 million Nigerians in the USA.I saw this and I couldn't believe my eyes.1, 800,000....One million,eight hundred thousand
This is even in the year 2000

Why would I stay in a country illegally, my pride won't let me.

pussyeater:

It's the Greatest Country on earth. Take it or leave it!!!

Canada is their father now.

pDudd:
I know a few illegal immigrants in my neighborhood who are Nigerians. One particular lady introduced my wife to the party life. Now my wife has gone astray and parties every weekend. I have decided to call ICE on her and her family this weekend.

Lol. This cracked me up.

sweetTai:
Interesting thread. Let me read first and post later. I have 23 years of experience in this facade called America.

Facade? Deep sigh
I await your opinion

shogsman:
Why would I stay in a country illegally, my pride won't let me.

you cannot blame those that do. There’s hunger in the land. Hunger is no respecter of anybody. Hunger bad!

johnnychuks:
. Congo better pass Naija now why una they talk like this self.

Better than Nigeria

In what aspect if i may ask

Maldini212:
When oyibo first came to Africa ,,,no documentation,,, now we wan enter their side they are telling us to get visa

I wonder oh

Mustsucceed:


Which Germany ? How? When did u move to Germany ? Will u shut up there . can u try going to some parts of Germany sef? Don't even try arguing with me.sometimes iread posts and just laugh ...clearly most of u aren't well travelled but will get on public forums to spew trash

Yes

Tell me where you can't visit in Germany.

P.S - you don't have to be abusive bro.

Noel1:


Without America, Nairaland wouldn't exist?

What fallacy?

Better leave them bro

Observation mode activated

drakeli:
you cannot blame those that do. There’s hunger in the land. Hunger is no respecter of anybody. Hunger bad!

You're right bro,but it isn't worth it,last time I visited I saw the deplorable life illegals lead over there, some even avoid public places totally, you cannot make friends anyhow cos of the fear of ice,no adequate healthcare unless you wanna go under the counter.

NONNYG:
That was exactly the same thing OP did

And he is sharping mouth here like a woodpecker

Ugosample:



You have saud it all

USA is the land of enterprise hands down

then Germany, Japan and MAYBE China follows

Where did you guys place Qatar, Luxembourg, although they ain't got a strong military, technology, and politics, which thus made USA and Russia the top 2.


Based on fact, USA is the best country in the world.

sweetTai:
Interesting thread. Let me read first and post later. I have 23 years of experience in this facade called America.

Tag me when you post.