₦airaland Forum

falopey:
You are talking about a whole continent here. Which citizens of which country in Europe tour more than American citizens? None of course. Americans work the whole year just to spend all their earnings on vacations in summer and the circle continues year in year out.

InvertedHammer:
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The greatest country is where your basic requirements are met. To some, America is the dream country. To others, it is a nightmare. As bad as Afghanistan is, some people will not want to leave it for anywhere else.

Beyond the rhetoric, everyone's experience will be different.

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DarkJeddi:
You are fixated on the US because of your position of poverty,

Do you think Citizens from Countries with better living indices than the US, like Canada,Australia, Japan and the Scandinavians are in any rush to migrate to US with their overall inferior living standards?

salford1:
The Canadian Prairies (usually referred to as simply the Prairies in Canada) is a region in Western Canada. It includes the Canadian portion of the Great Plains and the Prairie Provinces, namely Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba. These provinces are partially covered by grasslands, plains, and lowlands, mostly in the southern regions. - Wiki

There are cities/towns/villages which are majorly hours of drive between each other. When you drive outside major cities, the pic below may be what you will see for hours of driving: Native pasture, oil pump jacks and farmlands.
Wages are generally higher in the prairies than other parts of Canada. Could be because of the low population due to much cold and longer winters.

Ritchiee:
Thanks Bruv.Thinking of coming to America.What are the best procedures for getting a US green card? Is it true that we have more than 2 million Nigerians in the USA.I saw this and I couldn't believe my eyes.1, 800,000....One million,eight hundred thousand
This is even in the year 2000

yaki84:
Visit first ke?
Visit is meant for alaba, ariaria, onitsha ngwa, sokoto or markudi.
A nigerian cant visit newyork, we dey move to newyork!

FannySwindler1:
I'm a Nigerian citizen and Nigeria is the greatest country. It is very easy to Swindle Fanny in Nigeria than in any of those countries being mentioned.

Can't people just pass their points across without telling us about their citizenship. Why the showmanship?

Duggedised12:
what is the business of a migrant with military and political?.

seanwilliam:
i told him each of the countries strenght

pansophist:
See eh, I live in the Netherlands. I am so comfortable here that moving to the USA will reduce my quality of life. America has no public healthcare system, and healthcare is the number one reason for bankruptcy in the US, meanwhile here, even if my medical bills cost 100 million dollars, I won't pay a dime. It is completely free. Education is almost free, and as NL is a country of the EU, its citizens are entitled to live anywhere and access quality services like citizens there. Education in the Nordics are completely free, and I will take a course in maybe Sweden or Finland next year, and it will be completely free for me. An American ex that came to my uni for exchange could not believe that it was free for us to study, and she has close to 150k usd in student loan. Imagine starting life as a young adult with that amount owed to a bank, and it grows with interest. Just in case you do not know, student debt is a common cause of suicide in the US among young people.

The US is not safe, with the gun problems, I can't imagine raising a kid there. How about the foods? do I need to remind that the US is the most obese country in the world? Americans are fat because the food there is horrible. GMO in foods without the label. Over here, every foods has a label if its GMO or organic, so I know what I am eating. And I do not like that government spend money bombing other countries, policing the world and destabilizing smaller countries. Also, mobility in EU is so efficient. Go to ryanair.com, wizzair.com, or easyjet.com, you will see cheap flight for as little as 5euros to let's say the UK from Germany. Travelling is cheap, efficient and awesome. It is difficult for me not to travel at least once a month to a different country. In the winter if I need sun, the Spanish island in Africa, or Malta, or somewhere in Italy will do. Like snow? go to Scandinavia, the EU is like a giant, multicultural country, and I love it.

The US taxes its citizens on income they earn abroad. SO if you are an American working in the UK, you pay tax from your salary in the UK to the US. I am trying not to write a long sentence here, but if you wanna know exactly how I feel like a European to move to the US, read this thread on Quora, with European telling you why the US is a bad deal for to move to. I tell you in all honesty, I won't if you gave me an American passport. I can visit, but will never live there.

https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-we-have-more-people-from-countries-like-Norway-immigrating-to-America

Duggedised12:
OK, just looking at it from the side of a migrant tho,cos this thread is about migration.

pansophist:
See eh, I live in the Netherlands. I am so comfortable here that moving to the USA will reduce my quality of life. America has no public healthcare system, and healthcare is the number one reason for bankruptcy in the US, meanwhile here, even if my medical bills cost 100 million dollars, I won't pay a dime. It is completely free. Education is almost free, and as NL is a country of the EU, its citizens are entitled to live anywhere and access quality services like citizens there. Education in the Nordics are completely free, and I will take a course in maybe Sweden or Finland next year, and it will be completely free for me. An American ex that came to my uni for exchange could not believe that it was free for us to study, and she has close to 150k usd in student loan. Imagine starting life as a young adult with that amount owed to a bank, and it grows with interest. Just in case you do not know, student debt is a common cause of suicide in the US among young people.

The US is not safe, with the gun problems, I can't imagine raising a kid there. How about the foods? do I need to remind that the US is the most obese country in the world? Americans are fat because the food there is horrible. GMO in foods without the label. Over here, every foods has a label if its GMO or organic, so I know what I am eating. And I do not like that government spend money bombing other countries, policing the world and destabilizing smaller countries. Also, mobility in EU is so efficient. Go to ryanair.com, wizzair.com, or easyjet.com, you will see cheap flight for as little as 5euros to let's say the UK from Germany. Travelling is cheap, efficient and awesome. It is difficult for me not to travel at least once a month to a different country. In the winter if I need sun, the Spanish island in Africa, or Malta, or somewhere in Italy will do. Like snow? go to Scandinavia, the EU is like a giant, multicultural country, and I love it.

The US taxes its citizens on income they earn abroad. SO if you are an American working in the UK, you pay tax from your salary in the UK to the US. I am trying not to write a long sentence here, but if you wanna know exactly how I feel like a European to move to the US, read this thread on Quora, with European telling you why the US is a bad deal for to move to. I tell you in all honesty, I won't if you gave me an American passport. I can visit, but will never live there.

https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-we-have-more-people-from-countries-like-Norway-immigrating-to-America

seanwilliam:
millitary should be considered too, atleast for safety against external forces

AnthonyAk:
25 per hour is not money bro , atleast its not enough to afford to rent a 1 bedroom flat and still eat in my city. Im not even adding making car payments and saving. To live a decent life in any major north american city one needs atleast 75k annually and thats the bare minimum to rent , pay bills , get a car loan , save and still go out



Dont go and bunch yourself with north american problems because you and an american arent coming from the same place.

So because most north americans are bums dosent mean i have to me.

ogbonti:
easier said than done.. do you think u will just marry and then they give u green card?

Once they interview you and your iyawo and something doesnt seem right, even to those who claim fell in love, that happens to them, and your adjustment petition is denied, they will put you on deportation proceedings immediately and the American who petitioned for you will be docked for perjury up to 10 years and or/ $10,000 fine... people i know that have suffered this fate are up to 20 Nigerians... u think visa interview is hard in Lagos? wait until you attend adjustment of status interview-----when those who have experienced it here tell their stories, your legs will freeze inside warm water out of fear

salford1:
I am a Citizen of Canada, and he is right. USA is indeed the greatest country in the world.

I have learnt to seperate patriotism from reality.

sisipelebe:
don't mind sirmu, the guy is still in Nigeria and he's making comparison.

franchasng:
Netherlands is far below US to even compare.

The airport looked so old and close to dirty like African airports

Netherlands is a small country with small population, so there is no need to compare because Netherlands is like Nevada in US

One can use bicycle to circle round Netherlands in one day

Healthcare is costly in US, yes I agree.

Education too is but Americans afford it and end up great and richer than Europeans who attend free eduction and free healthcare, so what's the need

Where is all the money you Europeans saved if at the end we can't find you guys among top billionaires

Only few Europeans are billionaires, while America produces almost 70% of worlds billionaires and richest people, so what's the need for the free education and free healthcare in Europe

US is the greatest country on earth as at now, take or or leave it!

pDudd:
I know a few illegal immigrants in my neighborhood who are Nigerians. One particular lady introduced my wife to the party life. Now my wife has gone astray and parties every weekend. I have decided to call ICE on her and her family this weekend.

Backfornow:
everytime I think I've gotten caught up with the comments, there are at least 2 more to read.

pDudd:
I know a few illegal immigrants in my neighborhood who are Nigerians. One particular lady introduced my wife to the party life. Now my wife has gone astray and parties every weekend. I have decided to call ICE on her and her family this weekend.

ogbonti:
every naija who lived in europe, visited the USA and never returned to EUROPE, why Sir?

sassysure:
Don't argue with these people.

In this nairaland alone, those living in US tend to show off a lot more than those in other countries. I often wonder why.
Majority of them are uncouth.
I don't know if they see others as inferior to them.

ogbonti:
Canada is superior to many European countries but INFERIOR to the USA

TSRC:
Germany is highly underrated.

Germany and Japan. The greatest countries in the world in real terms.

willian10:
You made a lot of sense, your points are real but inapt to what pansophist said.
He proved that living in Netherland as a Nigerian is better than living in the USA, u said their airport looks old... are u going there to take pictures?
There are many billionaires in the USA.. are u going there to become a billionaire?
Good to know u said the school fees are easier to pay for Americans, not an alien.
Try to understand a post before arguing.

franchasng:
I cannot live in UK even if they appoint me that their Queen errand boy they call Prime Minister. I rather relocate to Maiduguri Nigeria than live permanently in UK, cos if I dare live in UK, I will kill many British people with my bare hands

UK is a dying nation living on past glory, give them another 50yrs and Italy/Greece will be better than UK.

falopey:
$7 is what you have on the book. It’s actually $12 in some places and $15 in some other places. But in actual fact. No one is being paid $7. For the most part. Even people taking orders in restaurant go home with more than $12. Even dish washers in hotels are not paid $7. No one will take up a job that pays $7. Not now when employers are scrambling to retain their employees . I assisted a Nigerian that just came to the US with getting a dish washing job operating industrial dish washing machine in a hotel without paper to start with so he could pay his bills. He’s being paid $9.5 per hour with $12 for overtime. That’s with no paper o and for the fact that the hotel was taking advantage of his situation .

Meanwhile another African American coworker that is operating the same machine with him is being paid $15 per hour washing the same dish

Originalsly:
I write from my New York City perspective. This is more for those who are planning on living here illegally. Do not do it... don't jump out of the frying pan and into the fire. Not discouragement.... but enlightenment. Don't count on people to help you...it is a dog eat dog situation. Sooo many opportunities would not be available to you.... for jobs... for housing... for transportation and for certain medical attention... you will have to pay out of pocket.
Today ICE is making sweeps to arrest illegal immigrants. The thing is... wherever they swoop down... they will drag not only their target... but everyone else around to check their status ...then off to the overcrowded detention centers.
Continued...actually...I did not even know I posted the above!

The fear I see while doing my rounds is alarming. People are soooo az fraid of ICE.... they been opening their doors for me at first knock...but now I have to convince them that I am who Insaid I am. If someone wants to host you.... their fear would be what if ICE raids and have them hauled in for harbouring an illegal? The situation is tense here. I know it is worse in other States where the residents are generally supportive of kicking out illegals. It is not surprising that we no longer hear much from those who always advise to stay away from Black areas... settle in White areas. Since Trump.... those people have been silent.
All the above... is just about fear.... fear because one is not legal.

It's a pity that those who are stuck here ... trapped... do not share their experiences... nor tell others of their pitfalls. Somehow... I have the feeling that misery loves company.

On vacation I'm not....status changed. For me.... to begin with... I was pressured to come by family members resident here. Feeding...clothing... housing... all transportation.... going to interviews... etc..... I had tremendous support. ...but that was my circumstances ...I didn't even have to look... my landing was well prepared.... all I needed to do was leap. What is your circumstances?...is your landing prepared? That's what this is all about.
My advice to anyone...visit first... before making a decision. You will see things from a wider perspective ... and be in a position to make good decisions.