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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by AngelicBeing: 2:49pm On Jul 25, 2019
Beautyaddy:


Hmmm...those people really needs the help of a lawyer to scale through.

As long as they can perform their best act of proving to the immigrant officers that their marriage is genuine I don't see them having any problems.

Most important is that the couple must be living together, share a bank account and must be fillings joint taxes together...some of these things kind of show some genuinely about the marriage.
l agree with you, in the past it was much easier but with my koboko friend called Trump now in power, immigration laws / path to PR / citizenship has been tightened more than before, the 2 people l cited in my post are both legally married back in Nigeria, the lady has 3 kids with his husband, while the man has 4 kids back home, so I don't know how they will play the game, both of them are looking for arrangee marriage to legalized their status, heading to canada for Aduro might be their last option

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by DarkJeddi(m): 3:03pm On Jul 25, 2019
Kingkun69:
why are you getting sooo worked up and aggressive you are still in naija with me the only difference is I have us passport grin grin or u want to see it smiley smiley smiley
You not me,

Is the one getting worked up..

I gave a scenario in which any reasonable individual should be able to reason with and appreciate,

But you would rather be stucked in your own little world..

Having a US Citizenship is not my ultimate life's ambition,

If that is yours then you have achieved all that you have set off to achieve in life..

So congrats on your lifetime achievement.. undecided

And if I have an opportunity to travel out of the country,

Australia NOT US would be my first choice ..

So to each their own..

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by AnthonyAk(m): 3:28pm On Jul 25, 2019
Celepope:

If you consider one earning 50 thousand dollar per annum as being a bum then i do not know what we will call graduates in Nigeria that earn less than 500 thousand naira per annum. That 50k per annum in some major American cities i.e Baltimore, Houston, and Indianapolis will give that person an average and comfortable lifestyle if the person is single and lives within their means. Thoughts like yours are what drives many into PICKING FRAUD that alot of young Nigerians are engaged in.

Baltimore? Indianapolis? As far as I'm concerned those places are oshodi compared to Vancouver.

It's because you have joined your self with North American problems and you don't know your worth.

If to say i wan enter yankee nah 150k annually minimum dey enter my account

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by AnthonyAk(m): 3:32pm On Jul 25, 2019
Kingkun69:
again you say this cause you can't get in smiley

But he is correct. After all americans are the most deported nation from Canada.

If I ask where you stay now, you'll call Houston and think that one is a city. Some other person told me Baltimore and I just laughed
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by AnthonyAk(m): 3:37pm On Jul 25, 2019
salford1:


The Canadian Prairies (usually referred to as simply the Prairies in Canada) is a region in Western Canada. It includes the Canadian portion of the Great Plains and the Prairie Provinces, namely Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba. These provinces are partially covered by grasslands, plains, and lowlands, mostly in the southern regions. - Wiki

There are cities/towns/villages which are majorly hours of drive between each other. When you drive outside major cities, the pic below may be what you will see for hours of driving: Native pasture, oil pump jacks and farmlands.
Wages are generally higher in the prairies than other parts of Canada. Could be because of the low population due to much cold and longer winters.

This is false, Vancouver and Toronto has the highest paying jobs.

Manitoba? Lol what companies are there? Oil is dead in the water so there are no oil jobs in Alberta like before.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by globemoney01: 5:34pm On Jul 25, 2019
salford1:

Chai. See as dem finish my beloved Brittania, My first love. I visited for 5days last month. Still love the UK.
With your disdain for Canada, Ill like to know what you think of dying Britain lol
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by salford1: 6:00pm On Jul 25, 2019
globemoney01:

With your disdain for Canada, Ill like to know what you think of dying Britain lol
I do not have a disdain for Canada. Do not get me wrong or quoute out of context. I am Canadian/Nigerian and love Canada and Nigeria more than I love any other country.
I am just stating facts. That is all.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by globemoney01: 6:03pm On Jul 25, 2019
salford1:

I do not have a disdain for Canada. Do not get me wrong or quoute out of context. I am Canadian/Nigerian and love Canada and Nigeria more than I love any other country.
I am just stating facts. That is all.
What yes, yes its common sense that USA is the greatest nation on earth but you are saying with so much disdain for Canada and now claiming you love UK.. I'll like to know if you think UK is better than Canada
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by salford1: 6:04pm On Jul 25, 2019
AnthonyAk:


This is false, Vancouver and Toronto has the highest paying jobs.

Manitoba? Lol what companies are there? Oil is dead in the water so there are no oil jobs in Alberta like before.
Well. Maybe I over generalised. But I do know that healthcare workers and Engineers earn higher in Alberta/Sask than any other province in Canada. These are the industries I am very familier with.

In addition, its cheaper to live in the prairie. An high end house that would cost 4million dollars in toronto or vancouver would only cost about 750k in Calgary, Saskatoon, Regina, Winnipeg or Edmonton. Cheaper insurance and lower tax too.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by salford1: 6:07pm On Jul 25, 2019
globemoney01:

What yes, yes its common sense that USA is the greatest nation on earth but you are saying with so much disdain for Canada and now claiming you love UK.. I'll like to know if you think UK is better than Canada
I still dont know how you translated my comments to disdain. I only mentioned advantages that the US has over Canada. undecided

Both UK and Canada have their merits and demerits. I cant say which is better. But of course I love Canada more since I was able to rise faster in my career with higher pay than when I was in the Uk. Canada has lots of space too.
However, i do miss the UK's social life, food, excellent transport system and the ease of exploring Europe.

If i was to move to the states, my career and that of my wife would even rise faster with better pay, but we are currently content with what Canada has offered us. The US as per now is only good for holidays for the kids.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Preetychina22(m): 6:19pm On Jul 25, 2019
otherway:


U.K is far better and I challenge you to argue this with me...

1. Non discriminating...

2. Racism is almost non existent


3.No gun violence and considerably safer to live

4.Better healthcare with their amazing NHS.

5. Better welfare for citizens..

6. Easier to integrate and lots more..

7.Better currency power.

I hate commenting on threads like this because it's always filled with ignorant comments from people who have never boarded a plane.
Oga, the UK is super racist and most blacks will choose US over UK anyday. Don't just depend on the media, travel and see!.
Yes, I have traveled and I speak from experience.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by globemoney01: 6:27pm On Jul 25, 2019
salford1:

I still dont know how you translated my comments to disdain. I only mentioned advantages that the US has over Canada. undecided

Both UK and Canada have their merits and demerits. I cant say which is better. But of course I love Canada more since I was able to rise faster in my career than when I was in the Uk. Canada has lots of space too.
However, i do miss the UK's social life, food, excellent transport system and the ease of exploring Europe.
If i was to move to the states, my career and that of my wife would even rise faster with better pay, but we are currently content with what Canada has offered us. The US as per now is only good for holidays for the kids.
Even the person you were arguing knows USA is better than Canada but I guess is surprised by how you are making it to look, everyone knows USA is the greatest nation on earth except those living in delusion. You were the most vocal person talking againt Canada despite the fact you have benefited from Canada. I wanted to see if you will also say UK is better than Canada the way you did with US with the way you talked about your last UK visit.
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by AnthonyAk(m): 6:29pm On Jul 25, 2019
salford1:

Well. Maybe I over generalised. But I do know that healthcare workers and Engineers earn higher in Alberta/Sask than any other province in Canada. These are the industries I am very familier with.

In addition, its cheaper to live in the prairie. An high end house that would cost 4million dollars in toronto or vancouver would only cost about 750k in Calgary, Saskatoon, Regina, Winnipeg or Edmonton. Cheaper insurance and lower tax too.

750k will get you mansions in those places , we dey suffer for here
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by salford1: 6:52pm On Jul 25, 2019
AnthonyAk:


750k will get you mansions in those places , we dey suffer for here
Maybe not mansions, but atleast high quality homes.
I do not blame those that live in those places. Some types of jobs are very scarce or do not even exist outside Toronto or Vancouver. Especially top financial and IT positions, but one can still get cheaper cookie cutter homes in surrounding smaller cities. Although, it might not tick all the boxes of a potential buyer.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Beautyaddy: 7:13pm On Jul 25, 2019
salford1:

I do not have a disdain for Canada. Do not get me wrong or quoute out of context. I am Canadian/Nigerian and love Canada and Nigeria more than I love any other country.
I am just stating facts. That is all.

I still don't understand why anybody will be comparing UK with the US.

First of all, they are way ages apart.

The US is way bigger in size with population and land space than the UK.

Without the UK and some other western European countries there wouldn't have been the US.

Additionally, the UK is not an immigrant country compared to the US and so that means that the US because of the foundation it was built on has the tendency to advance with more ideas from people from different countries than what the UK will encourage.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by AnthonyAk(m): 7:22pm On Jul 25, 2019
salford1:

Maybe not mansions, but atleast high quality homes.
I do not blame those that live in those places. Some types of jobs are very scarce or do not even exist outside Toronto or Vancouver. Especially top financial and IT positions, but one can still get cheaper cookie cutter homes in surrounding smaller cities. Although, it might not tick all the boxes of a potential buyer.

In Calgary my sister bought a 7 bedroom plus basement brand new for 600k.

It's just recently the spill over for it jobs is going to Calgary.

Id love to goto a small town up north or in the prairies if I could find a job there or remotely

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Nobody: 7:28pm On Jul 25, 2019
Interesting!
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by InvertedHammer: 7:34pm On Jul 25, 2019
Ugosample:


you know the American population is very high

and a 15% poverty rate of say 330m people will show

But still

It's not all bad in the USA tho

many many people still climb upward
like upward social mobility
if one is really ready to work and hustle towards it....

Watched a documentary on YouTube of one Mexican immigrant with his wife each working two jobs and living frugal for SIX years prior to setting up theye own business I the supply chain for Mexican restaurants in Los Angeles

now they worth $8m years after....

such success stories are there.
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Of course.

And such story is everywhere else. It is not as if the rest of the world is starving except Americans. Eg. The number of billionaires in China increased from 79 to 476 in the last decade. Isn't that a success story outside of the US? India has higher number of billionaires even with smaller economy than UK, Germany, Australia, Hong Kong or France. I believe everything is relative.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Ugosample(m): 7:47pm On Jul 25, 2019
InvertedHammer:

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Of course.

And such story is everywhere else. It is not as if the rest of the world is starving except Americans. Eg. The number of billionaires in China increased from 79 to 476 in the last decade. Isn't that a success story outside of the US?

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But there is no country in the world where so many foreign born people succeed on the scale seen in America

rags to riches stories of foreign born people in America abound more than any where else
the stat is confirmed
I researched on it

so that is what makes America unique

China does not even come close
neither do France or Britain

And definitely not NiggerArea

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Ugosample(m): 7:50pm On Jul 25, 2019
InvertedHammer:

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Of course.

And such story is everywhere else. It is not as if the rest of the world is starving except Americans. Eg. The number of billionaires in China increased from 79 to 476 in the last decade. Isn't that a success story outside of the US? India has higher number of billionaires even with smaller economy than UK, Germany, Australia, Hong Kong or France. I believe everything is relative.

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well.....
India has more billionaires that's true

But overall....

How many foreign born people made it from rags to riches in India?


America is unique in that sense

And it's the only country with a "dream"

the "American dream"

And contrary to what many believe
that dream is still achievable in 2019

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by InvertedHammer: 7:52pm On Jul 25, 2019
Ugosample:


But there is no country in the world where so many foreign born people succeed on the scale seen in America

rags to riches stories of foreign born people in America abound more than any where else
the stat is confirmed
I researched on it

so that is what makes America unique

China does not even come close
neither do France or Britain

And definitely not NiggerArea
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Understandable. But don't forget to look at the other side of the spectrum. Success is success irrespective of nationality. If you listen to Presidential debates in US, you will think the candidates are talking about a third world country. I surmise that it boils down to individual race.

A great country is one where the citizens are reluctant to migrate out of the country because the quality of life is remarkable.


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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Beautyaddy: 7:57pm On Jul 25, 2019
InvertedHammer:

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Understandable. But don't forget to look at the other side of the spectrum. Success is success irrespective of nationality. If you listen to Presidential debates in US, you will think the candidates are talking about a third world country. I surmise that it boils down to individual race.

A great country is one where the citizens are reluctant to migrate out of the country.

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huh...and what country is that may we know?
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Ugosample(m): 7:57pm On Jul 25, 2019
InvertedHammer:

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Understandable. But don't forget to look at the other side of the spectrum. Success is success irrespective of nationality. If you listen to Presidential debates in US, you will think the candidates are talking about a third world country. I surmise that it boils down to individual race.

A great country is one where the citizens are reluctant to migrate out of the country.

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in the midst of great countries
some are greater
And America is the greatest
And your premise is not 100% correct
more like 80%

A great country is one where most of the citizens are reluctant to migrate out of the country FOR ECONOMIC REASON i.e.
economic migration

Migrating to set up businesses every where (like ndi China na Japan) should not count o shocked

it's those fleeing failed States (NiggerArea for example )
that falls in the "not great category"
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by InvertedHammer: 8:02pm On Jul 25, 2019
Beautyaddy:


huh...and what country is that may we know?
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Too many countries....


But Nigeria ain't one. cool

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Sarang(f): 8:14pm On Jul 25, 2019
Halifaxguy:


Bro you really have time to argue with that lady. Is obvious she doesn't live in Canada or JJC in Canada. Just only California GDP is weigh more than Canada GDP. Canada is no match to US. There is no point arguing with someone who has not been to Canada. For her information I leave in Canada and works in one of their biggest airline as a Big Data Engineer. US IS WHERE THE MONEY IS!

I am Jjc nah you are Mr citizen. I see you cheesy
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Sarang(f): 8:17pm On Jul 25, 2019
Godbpraised:
always good at making derogatory remarks everywhere, always with a mind that nothing good can come out Nigeria too, even the canada you calm you know is not as fantastic as you think, you mention free-health, do you really think theirs is free-health? you must be joking my dear, someone is paying for it, and then at the end of the day you only get to be attended to ONLY when your case is super urgent or very critical. Besides their is a long waiting list if you need to see a specialist. like someone says may we not suffer cancer. Most of our health (Nigerian) professionals come here and can not get into their systems easily, some have become healthcare Aid worker, whilst our people back home are suffering, where is empathetic here. I know we have a very bad government , but please like an adage says only a Mad man would use is left finger to describe home. And finally learn to use tend words to people when responding, you often sound bitter and harsh.

Like you know how to use words any better. Think whatever you want. Sorry but you don’t tell me what to do! Harsh ko!
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Nobody: 8:29pm On Jul 25, 2019
kemmylove101:

so is their fault that you cant control your wife. stop it. dont give me that excuse.

My chick is out of control. She recently called the police on me cos of some minor domestic issue we had. That's what happens when you try to control y'all.
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by timesup234: 8:40pm On Jul 25, 2019
Ugosample:


in the midst of great countries
some are greater
And America is the greatest
And your premise is not 100% correct
more like 80%

A great country is one where most of the citizens are reluctant to migrate out of the country FOR ECONOMIC REASON i.e.
economic migration

Migrating to set up businesses every where (like ndi China na Japan) should not count o shocked

it's those fleeing failed States (NiggerArea for example )
that falls in the "not great category"
How is Nigeria a failed state when she is producing the highest number of dollar millionaires as we speak? The definition of a failed country should be America where millions are moving from the middle class to the working class. The America dream is a facade and in reality a nightmare
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Basalt(m): 8:45pm On Jul 25, 2019
timesup234:
Nobody need to cross any border. It is all slavery. Nigeria is better than USA and Canada combined together

If you are earning much in Nigeria. But if you are earning peanuts, oga leave that shit hole and travel abroad and see how great your life will be within just 5years.
I am currently doing my papers to leave this country for my masters with my life savings. Maybe come back in a better way by God's grace. This country does not favour me at all

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by uckennety(m): 9:02pm On Jul 25, 2019
[quote author=elijahkayode post=80614631][/quote]


From your post

Nigeria does none of these listed yet controls and loot us
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by TheEminentLaity: 9:02pm On Jul 25, 2019
cheesy You must have never boarded a plane yourself cheesy There is no other country in the west that the citizens complain and outright protest against discrimination and discriminatory laws than in the US. By the way, the UK is the most convenient place for a black person to exist, outside their own continent, anywhere in the world. Racism overtly expressed, certainly not in the UK, try USA with Trayvon Martin and the likes. A country that abolished Jim Crow laws as recent as in the 70s and you are talking about 'super racist.' Google it, some places in south of USA still have segregated proms in High School where black kids have their separate proms from white kids. You must not also watch the news and get your information about US from Jack Bauer and the Kardashians, about how americans, because they are black are screaming 'black lives matter.' . The US population is largely ignorant of the world outside their noses and everyone is identified by colour/race first. Completely wierd for anyone coming from Western Europe.

America to many Nigerians is like Nigeria to other Africans and black people around the world after watching Davido, Wizkid and PSquare on Youtube think Nigeria is a great place to live, meanwhile it is the one of the worst in Africa, comparable with the war torn countries in the regiion, to live in as a regular person where very comfortable middle-class citizens are leaving in droves. You need a lot of money to be secure and for the law to work in Nigeria and it's similar in the US because you are likely to get caught up with a stray bullet or get robbed in many low-income neighbourhoods. The US with all its money is the third world country of the West. I understand when sufferhead nigerians who move to US see constant electricity and start talking rubbish. Nobody who is rich or comfortably middle class in Europe would want to live in the US. Nobody!

I'm sure you have no idea that prisons close in Scandinavian countries and people sleep without locking their doors and move freely everywhere and 'don't need guns to stop bad guys with guns' or that in the US, majority about 70% would have trouble paying a $400 bill emergency and many people are one ailment away from bankrupcy and poverty and homelessness. I won't bother posting links, google is your friend but stop watching music videos for information about the US. You don't see schools and cinemas being shot up by crazy people with assault rifles (home edition) or gang wars in areas in the US? Or you think because you come from Nigeria the victims could never be you or your siblings? Just look at the some of the retrogressive laws some of the states are passing into law in 2019.

There is a lot of money in the US like Nigeria in Africa but living in Botswana or even Ivory Coast is better for a regular person than living in Nigeria. Right now even Nigeria is becoming one of the worst places to live if you are not super rich. Likewise the US, the difference and advantage is that social mobility is a thing in the US. The richest people change all the time and people move up and down the economic ladder.

Get your facts right next time, and oh I have lived in some of these countries and speak from experience. If I was Ghanaian, Rwandan or South African and middle class why in the world would I want to migrate to the US of all places to get shot or for me or my children to be called niggers?
Preetychina22:


I hate commenting on threads like this because it's always filled with ignorant comments from people who have never boarded a plane.
Oga, the UK is super racist and most blacks will choose US over UK anyday. Don't just depend on the media, travel and see!.
Yes, I have traveled and I speak from experience.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by otherway: 9:36pm On Jul 25, 2019
Preetychina22:


I hate commenting on threads like this because it's always filled with ignorant comments from people who have never boarded a plane.
Oga, the UK is super racist and most blacks will choose US over UK anyday. Don't just depend on the media, travel and see!.
Yes, I have traveled and I speak from experience.

Mumu..

I live in U.K and I have countless number of friends who have lived in U.S and U.K

Mrs Traveller, I no just travel go there but I have lived there for years.

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