Hassan080196:


But the court is yet to decide his case. Until then, the security personnel has the duty of detaining the accused for the general public interest.

The same court prosecuting his case granted him bail while his case is pending determination. Is that illegal? If you and the Federal Government feel otherwise, why not appeal the court decision to grant him bail rather than unilaterally lock him up in hiding indefinitely. He has spent about 4 years in your custody illegally.

Diamondwriter:

Illegal immigrants abi?
Did any court of law oppose him and he ignored?
You need to understand something o. He doesn't even have that right. That's d fastest way to be kicked out of office.
And I'm sure most things you've heard about Guantanamo bay are myth

Live interview from Guantanamo bay is myth?

Afamed:

Practically you know nothing about Elzazaky. Ask IBB why Elzazaky was detained during his regime for close to 3yrs. Ask Obj why Elzazaky was also detained during his time. Ask GEJ what led to Elzazaky 3 sons death while he was in power. All of them will brief you. Don't just sit at Nkpor defending Elzazaky

Since you know a lot about Elzazaky being a threat to Nigeria and feel you can justify his perpetual jail time. Why don't you encourage the Federal Government to use your evidence and all necessary evidences to get the courts to deny Elzazaky bail and lock him up perpetually as you wish.

The lesson to you and Federal Government is that it is only the courts that can legally deny a Nigerian or anyone freedom and keep him/her in custody.

You are simply being ridiculous and your accusations are laughable.

Afamed:

Live interview from Guantanamo bay is myth?

Abeg where's the live interview?
For what I remember, when the court ordered Bush to release the prisoners at Guantanamo bay, he had no choice but to comply.
I'm talking about a clear distinction between a court order and holding prisoners without trial.
Im aware that there are claims that some prisoners were held without trail. That's different from disobeying a court order.
It cannot happen over there, I promise you that.

Afamed:

Yes Saudi interest, stupid that was why the US didn't take Osama to court despite every human being has right to fair hearing in court. The interest of 300m Americans superseded the interest of just 1person ,hence the reason US didn't bother to capture Osama alive and begin to take him to court

Osama couldn't have been captured alive. Stop taking things out of context. El Chapo was captured alive and sentenced to life imprisonment. Same as others.

Context is key

The courts are deemed stupid if their orders are ignored. That's the definition of anarchy.

Wallade:


The same court prosecuting his case granted him bail while his case is pending determination. Is that illegal? If you and the Federal Government feel otherwise, why not appeal the court decision to grant him bail rather than unilaterally lock him up in hiding indefinitely. He has spent about 4 years in your custody illegally.

Baba, the bail was thrown out thus he would appear before the court I think by 29th of this month. And I suppose you do more research. It isn't the FG holding him in custody rather the Kaduna government.

Okoroawusa:

Do u know that with this ur comment u just agreed with him?

National interest supersedes individual rights anywhere in the world.The controversy there is what n who determines national interest?

In the US you cannot detain a citizen indefinitely without trial, citing national interest. It has never happened in the past 50years.

In a saner clime, rules of laws are supreme.

Diamondwriter:

Abeg where's the live interview?
For what I remember, when the court ordered Bush to release the prisoners at Guantanamo bay, he had no choice but to comply.
I'm talking about a clear distinction between a court order and holding prisoners without trial.
Im aware that there are claims that some prisoners were held without trail. That's different from disobeying a court order.
It cannot happen over there, I promise you that.

Why shifting the goal post?

Afamed:

Your ignorant is number. Does the right of individual in Us based only when you are in US alone?
Those US citizens detailed , outside US, why is US fighting for their release? All these small pikin self

Those terrorists detained in Cuba without trial, cannot be detained in the US soil without trial.

Hassan080196:


Baba, the bail was thrown out thus he would appear before the court I think by 29th of this month. And I suppose you do more research. It isn't the FG holding him in custody rather the Kaduna government.

Oga! It has been the Federal Government holding him in custody until recently after the protest at the national assembly.

If it is the Kaduna state govt that is holding him in custody, why is he not in Kaduna state prison custody? Why is he never brought to court for proceedings on his case.

We can assume that the Kaduna and Federal Government are manipulating the courts to keep him in custody.

Newboss:


Osama couldn't have been captured alive. Stop taking things out of context. El Chapo was captured alive and sentenced to life imprisonment. Same as others.

Context is key

The courts are deemed stupid if their orders are ignored. That's the definition of anarchy.

Perhaps you didn't read or hear from the Naval that killed Osama. Osama was killed in Abbotabad, a lonely community in Pakistan. The mission was to kill Osama just to further stop prolonging the aftermath effects if he was to be captured alive. Which was the right to do

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Since you know a lot about Elzazaky being a threat to Nigeria and feel you can justify his perpetual jail time. Why don't you encourage the Federal Government to use your evidence and all necessary evidences to get the courts to deny Elzazaky bail and lock him up perpetually as you wish.

The lesson to you and Federal Government is that it is only the courts that can legally deny a Nigerian or anyone freedom and keep him/her in custody.

Don't mind, if you ask them what is the offence of the Shi'ites, they will tell you that if you see what these people do in Zaria... But they will never tell the real offence that the Shi'ites commit.

vanunu:


In the US you cannot detain a citizen indefinitely without trial, citing national interest. It has never happened in the past 50years.

Which US?


I can see u watch a lot of Hollywood movies or American themed novels

Abeg no make me laugh

Okoroawusa:

Which US?


I can see u watch a lot of Hollywood movies or American themed novels

Abeg no make me laugh

He's a local champion. Ignore him

Afamed:
Why shifting the goal post?

I'm done

Afamed:

He's a local champion. Ignore him

Abi? no wonder.


US is number 1 when it comes to National Interest
Donald Trump can be killed for national interest even though he is American President.

Whether you can detain a citizen in US without trail or not is immaterial to this discussion.

I don't know why this thing is hard to grasp. Once the case has been taken to court and is judged, the executive cannot overrule. That's d point here.

Okoroawusa:

Abi? no wonder.


US is number 1 when it comes to National Interest
Donald Trump can be killed for national interest even though he is American President.

Donald Trump cannot overrule the court bros. Even if he wants to, he can't....

Okoroawusa:

Abi? no wonder.


US is number 1 when it comes to National Interest
Donald Trump can be killed for national interest even though he is American President.

I just ignore most of them when I read their comments. Just March in Florida, a pedestrian bridge under construction collapsed and killed 3 people. Those nonentities would not ever believe such can happen in US. To them US is without blames

Afamed:

Perhaps you didn't read or hear from the Naval that killed Osama. Osama was killed in Abbotabad, a lonely community in Pakistan. The mission was to kill Osama just to further stop prolonging the aftermath effects if he was to be captured alive. Which was the right to do

I hope you read how he was killed? You wonder why they used something like that just to kill a single person?

Out of point

Newboss:


I hope you read how he was killed? You wonder why they used something like that just to kill a single person?

Yes he was shot with the option of capturing him alive. But they opted to kill him immediately just to avoid unnecessary long court cases and larger part to avoid unnecessary demand or negotiation from his Taliban fighters. Which was the best decision.

Afamed:

The supreme court has already decided that. A case of Alh Asari Dokubo Vs FG. Abaribe is just being stupid.

www.vanguardngr.com
National interest supercedes individual rights - S-Court

www.vanguardngr.com
National interest supercedes individual rights - S-Court

Stop speaking on matters you know little of.

The definition of whether the public interest is more important than private interest PER CASE can only be determined by the courts. Not by the executive. Else, that is exactly what we called dictatorship.

The court in this particular case has already determined that the shiite leader be released. The exveutive CANNOT interpret the judgement of a court. It is bound to obey it

psucc:
In which case, Sir? If on the 2 cases (Elzakzaky and Dasuki) then ok but it is not so. It is only the Courts that can determine whose action is detrimental to the State and not Malami, Buhari, or any other person, no matter his position.

Thank you.

I didnt see this comment before.

@afamed, I understand you are a die-hard Buharist, but do not turn the law on its head else it will come aroind and bite you down tbe line

Uteghe:
Sen IBERIBE, the man that was impeached by Abia Assembly for printing fake motor park receipt has been asking stewpid questions since 1999.

you're one of the greatest problem we have in this country, he asked a brilliant question but your biased attitude won't let you reason like a living being....

nameo:


Stop speaking on matters you know little of.

The definition of whether the public interest is more important than private interest PER CASE can only be determined by the courts. Not by the executive. Else, that is exactly what we called dictatorship.

The court in this particular case has already determined that the shiite leader be released. The exveutive CANNOT interpret the judgement of a court. It is bound to obey it

Don't mind them .

nameo:


Stop speaking on matters you know little of.

The definition of whether the public interest is more important than private interest PER CASE can only be determined by the courts. Not by the executive. Else, that is exactly what we called dictatorship.

The court in this particular case has already determined that the shiite leader be released. The exveutive CANNOT interpret the judgement of a court. It is bound to obey it

Your ignorance is number one on the table

nameo:


Stop speaking on matters you know little of.

The definition of whether the public interest is more important than private interest PER CASE can only be determined by the courts. Not by the executive. Else, that is exactly what we called dictatorship.

The court in this particular case has already determined that the shiite leader be released. The exveutive CANNOT interpret the judgement of a court. It is bound to obey it

You are not following the case, just you heard the news from your friends that El zazaky was granted bail

Diamondwriter:


Donald Trump cannot overrule the court bros. Even if he wants to, he can't....

You cannot overrule a court,u can either obey or disobey a court.


Donald Trump can choose to disobey a court citing national interest most especially national security

Afamed:

Yes he was shot with the option of capturing him alive. But they opted to kill him immediately just to avoid unnecessary long court cases and larger part to avoid unnecessary demand or negotiation from his Taliban fighters. Which was the best decision.

No, he wasn't shot!

Go read it again.