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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 11:59am On Jul 27, 2019
Anas09:

Is helping you see that pride is evil pulling down the thread? Did I ever say what EnthronedbyGod is doing here not beneficial to me ans others?

We are not here for Self. And you are all about yourself boasting all over the place, when corrected you throw stones.

@EnthronesbyGod, I am sorry. I'll take my leave now. My job here is done.


I'm not sending you away, Anas09, I'm only trying to let you know, you ain't going about it the right way, so if you have gone away out of anger, kindly return.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Overself: 12:00pm On Jul 27, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:



This thread isn't the avenue for you to discuss such nonsense as astral travel and free thinking, cos if you get the link of such nonsense through this thread and try it, you might do your astral travel and never return to your body.

I ain't joking, this is an inspired statement from the Spirit.

Be warned.


God bless.

Mr Man,keep ur warp thinking to urself n let me think for myself. Understand? Nonsense!
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 12:00pm On Jul 27, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:



Unspeakable things( abundance of revelations) which isn't lawful for the mouth to utter.

Spiritual growth, in depth knowledge of God's word, wisdom, understanding, largeness of heart.

As for miracles, I can't take God's glory, but I can tell you that I saw raw miracles, like HIV , diabetes, cancer, salvation of souls, stroke, broken marriages restored, yoke of marriage delay broken and so many miracles which I can't mention.

A lot of witches, wizards, marine agents, incubi and succubi deliverances and many more.


You can do thesame and much more,if you can overcome your self and allow God to take the wheels.
can you try and write explicitly about it... I believe it will encourage people.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 12:01pm On Jul 27, 2019
bellong:


I have been following this thread silently from the beginning so I can comment on the current issue.

@Jesusjnr,

You fueled the fire because you responded to her first accusation/attack. Since you two have known each other before now, you would have done well to ignore her. There is a time to respond to criticism/attack or accusation and there is a time to let it slide. This thread is one of the times to let it slide. Bible says "answer not a fool according to his folly..." Another portion advised to answer but the relevant one here is not to answer.
I agree with the OP not to be entangled with the drama and it doesn't mean he supported your accuser.

Meanwhile, my observation is you don't criticism or anything that appears to tarnish you rightly. An example, in the early part of the thread, the OP mentioned about an encounter for you. You didn't give him an opportunity to explain himself or clarify what he meant but you shut him off on it. You could have asked him to explain to you offline but saying you don't need an encounter left much to be thought about. Despite the level of walk of Apostle Paul with God, he still said "that I may know Him..."
My advice is to learn to take criticism, both positive and negative, without rancour or shutting the person down. Afterall, your moniker is Jesusjnr, and Jesus told us that a servant cannot be greater than his master, if they do it to me, they will do it to you. I appreciate your contribution on the thread and push given to the OP to continue with the thread.
May God bless you and help us all in our walk with the Master...

@Anas09,

This thread is the first time I encountered your moniker when you came in to pick on most people. I don't know your thoughts or you heart, you may have good intention about what you are doing but you are not carrying about the business in an appropriate manner. Your use of words to those against you is unbecoming of a believer.
You don't correct a person by attacking the person, it will cause a reaction in like manner. If you think you have corrected people and they choose not to listen, it is not for you to start attacking them. We are not so learned of Christ. Everything you have done to Jesusjnr and Marianges on this thread is no correction or rebuke but attack that will create strife. You have not shown the character of Christ with the language and attitude you have shown.

Run your race, remove the logs in your own eyes before picking on the specks in other people's eyes. Stop attacking people. If you have any point of disagreement with people on the basis of their conviction, you compare scriptures with scriptures to address it and not pick a fight.

God bless you.
Very well, thank you for your words.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 12:02pm On Jul 27, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:



Anas, Anas ,
I love your passion for God, but don't let your emotions get the better part of you.


I believe if you can control the use of your tongue, you'll be a spiritual giant, cos I love your knowledge of God's word as a lady.


I won't say you're a talkative anymore, cos an average woman talks far more than a man.

Controlling your tongue, will help put your emotions under check, cos the tongue is the most difficult part of the body to control.

I hope you take my advice.

God bless.
Okay sir. Thanks and God bless.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 12:09pm On Jul 27, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:



I'm not sending you away, Anas09, I'm only trying to let you know, you ain't going about it the right way, so if you have gone away out of anger, kindly return.
cheesy cheesy cheesy No sir. I am not angry. Jesusjnr and I know ourselves. Just feel for that girl who jumped in-between us. She doesn't know our history.

For some months I was off Nairaland, when I came back on, Jjnr welcomed me back telling me that I shd not expect that he's changed from the heretic that I considered him to be, but has indeed gotten worst. We laughed about it and I told him to always know that I will keep going after him then. We laughed about it and here we are doing what we usually do. No malice, and animosities.

Me and Jesusjnr fight our fight, no one shd put their mouth o.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 12:11pm On Jul 27, 2019
Overself:

Mr Man,keep ur warp thinking to urself n let me think for myself. Understand? Nonsense!
Ah, oga there's an Astrology thread pls go there and astral project.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 12:20pm On Jul 27, 2019
Many have accused me of taking sides.
Some say I'm for Jesusjnr, others say I'm for Anas09.

I noticed different people calling me out on some posts made by Jesusjnr.

I have to emphatically say, Jesusjnr supported me from the beginning of the thread and I was very happy cos of that.

I visited his moniker , cos of his support and saw some things, I found distasteful(e.g Many mistakes of Apostle Paul, The Church is dead, Bishop Oyedopo is spiritually bankrupt and many more)

I tried to draw his attention to it, but I was shut off and I never gave a second try.
I wept to God, cos of what I saw , because I knew it couldn't be solved by attacks or corrections.

I love his passion for Christ,and I love anyone who claims to stand for Christ.

Love is a commandment that must be obeyed, but friendship and relationship is a choice.

I wouldn't like arguments on this particular statements on this thread, if you want to argue with him, go to his thread.

God bless

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 12:23pm On Jul 27, 2019
Anas09:

cheesy cheesy cheesy No sir. I am not angry. Jesusjnr and I know ourselves. Just feel for that girl who jumped in-between us. She doesn't know our history.

For some months I was off Nairaland, when I came back on, Jjnr welcomed me back telling me that I shd not expect that he's changed from the heretic that I considered him to be, but has indeed gotten worst. We laughed about it and I told him to always know that I will keep going after him then. We laughed about it and here we are doing what we usually do. No malice, and animosities.

Me and Jesusjnr fight our fight, no one shd put their mouth o.



You can fight your fight on his thread or on your thread, so that you don't derail this thread.

I don't want to talk about this issue again.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 12:35pm On Jul 27, 2019
Tosinex:
can you try and write explicitly about it... I believe it will encourage people.


I'll share just very few.

I was waiting upon the Lord and as I was praying I saw the heavens open and fire coming down to engulf me like a mighty hedge and I became impenetrable.

I prayed and waited more I saw fire again from heaven envelope my mouth and my mouth was full of fire.


I prayed and waited and that's when I saw a greater shock. I saw my tongue transform into a very sharp sword with 2 edges. I got so confused and didn't know the meaning, till the Spirit led me to the book of revelation.
God told me as from today anyone you bless is blessed, and anyone you curse is cursed.


The will of God is to transform everyone to Christ's image.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by BigDick70inch(m): 12:36pm On Jul 27, 2019
Anas09:

If you holding back, then, you are not done with satan. Satan likes to hide and makes sure his people hides him and what he does as much as possible. So, if in a closed and faceless forum like thisz, you still hide, then, satan still has to glory.

Expose satan and his works if you are really done with him.

I watched a YouTube video of an Ex satanist 'Stephen Dollins' revealing satan and all he did in the kingdom of darkness, with his bare face, he told all.

So, if you ar really serious, this is a faceless forum, no one knows you or your name. Abeg shame satan.

Oga u self go and do your own confession and stop seeing or reading meaning to everything the op posted..
Or Do u think..if not for God its easy to just come out and start confessing sins..let alone telling people you killed people..
Simply..thank God for op's life and let him be..

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 12:43pm On Jul 27, 2019
I went to my mum's church and the pastor heard I was a minister, he told me to take over the vigil.

As I started ministering , the Spirit of God told me to get a bottle of water and pray upon it, I sent a member to get it, so that no one would say I brought it from home.

The member brought it, I raised it up to heaven and prayed upon it. I placed drops on people's heads and mighty deliverances took place, a lady was loosed from her chains that night, some were baptised in the Holy Ghost, a lot saw visions and prophesied.


I gave the little that remained to the pastor and told him to drink it with his family, when he gets home.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OKOATA(m): 12:51pm On Jul 27, 2019
LilMissFavvy:
Praying unclad is very effective and potent. David did it in the Bible when he danced naked before God (2nd Samuel 6:14). If we read the entire chapter 6 of 2nd Samuel, it can be seen that David dancing naked was a form of prayer, he was intreating and worshipping God. We all know what happened to Michal, when she mocked him for dancing naked. I can recall how I had a problem in the past, I was overwhelmed, sad, I felt lost. I was on fast and prayed on bare floor unclad. I prayed asking God for an answer within a month. To my shock there was a knock on the door, towards evening time, I opened the door, and the answer to my prayer was there. Nothing on this earth would have warrant the answer to my prayer coming at that time, but there it was. It was so funny and unbelievable. The second time I did it, the answer to my prayer came at the appropriate time. It is very effective tho I don't do it frequently. Anas09 you may give it a try.
I almost forgot about the David thing, thanks for reminding me. God bless sweetie

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 12:51pm On Jul 27, 2019
The pastor told me later that he had a dream after drinking the water , that he saw a mighty river that was very pure, cos when I gave him the water, I told him that out if his belly shall flow rivers of living water.


A lady came with her brother to the church, and I told her that her brother needs deliverance from the spirit of robbery, and told her to bring him to me for prayers.


She ignored me, after some months my mum came to me and told me a pathetic story.

She told me that, the prophecy I made concerning the lady came to pass. She said the lady's brother went for a robbery operation and was caught and imprisoned.

God is not a man.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by LilMissFavvy(f): 1:01pm On Jul 27, 2019
Okay......''linen epod'' I get it.
EnthronedbyGod:






2nd Samuel 6:14&20( 14 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod. 20 Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!


I don't know who taught you what you wrote there, but that's not what that passage meant, so even if you want to encourage people to pray unclothed don't use that passage.

The Bible says David wore a linen ephod, it's clearly written in the scriptures so he wasn't without clothes.
Michal was angry because David disrobed himself of his royal wears and went on a simple priestly wear, and danced widely in front of commoners and not because he was without clothes.
She was from a royal family and had never seen such done by her father or brothers, so she allowed her emotions get the better part of her.

You can tell people of your personal experience, but don't use that scripture to justify it.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 1:02pm On Jul 27, 2019
BigDick70inch:


Oga u self go and do your own confession and stop seeing or reading meaning to everything the op posted..
Or Do u think..if not for God its easy to just come out and start confessing sins..let alone telling people you killed people..
Simply..thank God for op's life and let him be..
Sorry nah.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 1:02pm On Jul 27, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:




You can fight your fight on his thread or on your thread, so that you don't derail this thread.

I don't want to talk about this issue again.

And you will not.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Overself: 2:13pm On Jul 27, 2019
Anas09:

Ah, oga there's an Astrology thread pls go there and astral project.
Shut ur big mouth!
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by onyeomaonyeoma(m): 2:31pm On Jul 27, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:



You sent me a PM and I sent you a mail, but you haven't replied me.
I just did now ....thanks
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by BigDick70inch(m): 2:34pm On Jul 27, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
The pastor told me later that he had a dream after drinking the water , that he saw a mighty river that was very pure, cos when I gave him the water, I told him that out if his belly shall flow rivers of living water.


A lady came with her brother to the church, and I told her that her brother needs deliverance from the spirit of robbery, and told her to bring him to me for prayers.


Sorry sir..
Pls quick question..
Wanna digress a bit into cultism to clear something confusing me..
Lets say an Aiye pull a hit Eye(i mean going to war with eye)can other frat(Ban)be a target??
For instance..there is war btw EYE AND AIYE during the process the AIYE come across a BAN..
can that BAN be killed to cant scores or..left alone since they aint in war with BAN but EYE??
Thanks

She ignored me, after some months my mum came to me and told me a pathetic story.

She told me that, the prophecy I made concerning the lady came to pass. She said the lady's brother went for a robbery operation and was caught and imprisoned.

God is not a man.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by BigDick70inch(m): 2:34pm On Jul 27, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
The pastor told me later that he had a dream after drinking the water , that he saw a mighty river that was very pure, cos when I gave him the water, I told him that out if his belly shall flow rivers of living water.


A lady came with her brother to the church, and I told her that her brother needs deliverance from the spirit of robbery, and told her to bring him to me for prayers.


Sorry sir..
Pls quick question..
Wanna digress a bit into cultism to clear something confusing me..
Lets say an Aiye pull a hit on Eye(i mean going to war with eye)can other frat(Ban)be a target??
For instance..there is war btw EYE AND AIYE during the process the AIYE come across a BAN..
can that BAN be killed to cant scores or..left alone since they aint in war with BAN but EYE??
Thanks

She ignored me, after some months my mum came to me and told me a pathetic story.

She told me that, the prophecy I made concerning the lady came to pass. She said the lady's brother went for a robbery operation and was caught and imprisoned.

God is not a man.


Sorry sir..
Pls quick question..
Wanna digress a bit into cultism to clear something confusing me..
Lets say an Aiye pull a hit Eye(i mean going to war with eye)can other frat(Ban)be a target??
For instance..there is war btw EYE AND AIYE during the process the AIYE come across a BAN..
can that BAN be killed to cant scores or..left alone since they aint in war with BAN but EYE??
Thanks
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 3:17pm On Jul 27, 2019
bellong:


I have been following this thread silently from the beginning so I can comment on the current issue.

@Jesusjnr,

You fueled the fire because you responded to her first accusation/attack. Since you two have known each other before now, you would have done well to ignore her. There is a time to respond to criticism/attack or accusation and there is a time to let it slide. This thread is one of the times to let it slide. Bible says "answer not a fool according to his folly..." Another portion advised to answer but the relevant one here is not to answer.
I agree with the OP not to be entangled with the drama and it doesn't mean he supported your accuser.

God bless you.
First of all just to clear any false impressions here that she may have created with her saying that we know each other, she is only known to me as an enemy and I dislike her, for I have lots of christians attackers here and she is one of the fiercest of them in Nairaland.

And the only reason I tried to forget my bitter history with her when she came back after a long break, was just because of who I was as can be confirmed by my sis here gandollar who I also had an acrimonious past with, for I thought she loved God and hence that we should focus more on what united us instead of what divided us, especially as I didn't want us to go past to our acrimonious past, for it was very bitter I must tell you.

Please visit the following link to confirm what I'm saying: https://www.nairaland.com/5284285/thousand-shall-not-fall-sideand/2#80262581

The first time she confronted me on Nairaland sometime this year, she was so venomous but I held my calm for a while because i thought she was a righteous christian, to the extent that a nairalander asked me how I was able to be so calm despite being subjected to such extent of attacks.

I later responded as she refused to see reason but sustained her attacks, and she got to know that even though I kept calm initially that it wasn't because I didn't have it in me but that I chose to keep calm.

And though I had responded intially here because of the extent to which she had taken this. (I don't know if you actually saw the extent to which she took it, mentioning those who spoke well of me and trying to play god that they were wrong to have done that). But after I had warned her so that she desist from it at least not on this thread, for you would have seen how much this thread meant to me from the onset. And even the OP said something very insulting to me here, but I chose not to say everything I had to say because of the respect i had for this thread amongst others.

But she didn't have the same thoughts with me as she took it to a whole new level, but you can see how I avoided her since then, and even abandoned my plan to take it out on her elsewhere because somehow I just thought it wasn't the best thing to do as I asked God for Him to show me how to deal with it.

So yes she's my enemy as I said nonetheless I prayed for her this morning just as I do for all my enemies even as Jesus had commanded us to do just to illustrate how I think. And as I called her name I was just laughing but that's how we roll spiritually.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 3:23pm On Jul 27, 2019
bellong:


Meanwhile, my observation is you don't criticism or anything that appears to tarnish you rightly. An example, in the early part of the thread, the OP mentioned about an encounter for you. You didn't give him an opportunity to explain himself or clarify what he meant but you shut him off on it. You could have asked him to explain to you offline but saying you don't need an encounter left much to be thought about. Despite the level of walk of Apostle Paul with God, he still said "that I may know Him..."
My advice is to learn to take criticism, both positive and negative, without rancour or shutting the person down. Afterall, your moniker is Jesusjnr, and Jesus told us that a servant cannot be greater than his master, if they do it to me, they will do it to you. I appreciate your contribution on the thread and push given to the OP to continue with the thread.
May God bless you and help us all in our walk with the Master...
As for the saying of the OP concerning an encounter with God, I knew it wasn't from God but drawn from his own opinion concerning something he had seen concerning me. So i saw it as very insulting for him to now talk of me having an encounter with God because of an opinion he had concerning my own opinion, as though he were God.

For i disagreed with his opinion concerning T.B Joshua but didn't say that he needed an encounter with God because of that but just made my opinion known, so he should have done same with his opinion even if I don't agree with it. So that was my point concerning the "encounter" with God he talked about, for i don't do such encounters. Moreover i believe there's a point in one's relationship with God that encounters stops and walk commences.

As for Apostle Paul you know what you mean by the level of his walk with God, but I see him as my colleague in the Spirit, for there's nothing he had that I don't have or gave that I've not given, so he's no different from me even though we came at different times. So if he prays that he wants to know God, he knows what he means. I know God but I want to know Him more even to the extent that I am completely in sync with His Ways, Word and Thoughts just as my Master Jesus was. And this is my earnest desire.

Concerning criticism, I do listen to criticisms but I believe that it's my perogative to choose which is right or wrong and not that if I listen but don't follow it because I think they are unfounded or not wise, that means I am not open to criticisms.

The level I walk at spiritually it's very difficult for most to comprehend, for it's just like Peter rebuking Jesus for trying to do the will of God thinking he was right. So that Jesus shut down Peter didn't mean that He didn't listen to criticisms but that for Peter to be able to comprehend what Jesus was doing meant Peter needed to upgrade to the level of the Spirit that Jesus walked at. Hence the saying of Jesus for him "deny himself" etc.

The inspiration behind the jesusjnr moniker is because I rep His Words for if you see my signature and follow most of my comments here you would pretty much always see me pointing people to His Words, for I believe that it ought to be the standard for those of the church.

It's easier said than done but thanks for your effort.

Really appreciate. God bless you.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 5:03pm On Jul 27, 2019
jesusjnr:
As for the saying of the OP concerning an encounter with God, I knew it wasn't from God but drawn from his own opinion concerning something he had seen concerning me. So i saw it as very insulting for him to now talk of me having an encounter with God because of an opinion he had concerning my own opinion, as though he were God.

For i disagreed with his opinion concerning T.B Joshua but didn't say that he needed an encounter with God because of that but just made my opinion known, so he should have done same with his opinion even if I don't agree with it. So that was my point concerning the "encounter" with God he talked about, for i don't do such encounters. Moreover i believe there's a point in one's relationship with God that encounters stops and walk commences.

As for Apostle Paul you know what you mean by the level of his walk with God, but I see him as my colleague in the Spirit, for there's nothing he had that I don't have or gave that I've not given, so he's no different from me even though we came at different times. So if he prays that he wants to know God, he knows what he means. I know God but I want to know Him more even to the extent that I am completely in sync with His Ways, Word and Thoughts just as my Master Jesus was. And this is my earnest desire.

Concerning criticism, I do listen to criticisms but I believe that it's my perogative to choose which is right or wrong and not that if I listen but don't follow it because I think they are unfounded or not wise, that means I am not open to criticisms.

The level I walk at spiritually it's very difficult for most to comprehend, for it's just like Peter rebuking Jesus for trying to do the will of God thinking he was right. So that Jesus shut down Peter didn't mean that He didn't listen to criticisms but that for Peter to be able to comprehend what Jesus was doing meant Peter needed to upgrade to the level of the Spirit that Jesus walked at. Hence the saying of Jesus for him "deny himself" etc.

The inspiration behind the jesusjnr moniker is because I rep His Words for if you see my signature and follow most of my comments here you would pretty much always see me pointing people to His Words, for I believe that it ought to be the standard for those of the church.

It's easier said than done but thanks for your effort.

Really appreciate. God bless you.

it's evident from what you just wrote that you're guilty as charged. Imagine...still trying to measure yourself against Paul....trying to make his office and gifts seem common, since you want to exalt yourself, do well to answer these questions: 1. Were you called to office by the LORD like paul?....acts 9:14-15. 2. Have you commanded demons out of men(in Jesus' name) like paul.....acts 16:18. 3. Have handkerchiefs been taken from you to heal the sick and cast out evil spirits from men like it was with Paul......acts 19:11-12. 4. Have you raised the dead like Paul.... acts 20:9-12. 5. Have you been attacked by a serpent and suffered no harm like Paul.......acts28:5. 6. Have you been imprisoned because of the gospel like paul.......acts 16:16-40 7. Have men bound by an oath sought your life like they did paul...acts 23:12-35
It's very evident that you're not even half the man paul was but you boast in your wicked pride that you have received even as he did....Now remember, the original sin of Satan was pride isaiah14:13-14.....I know, very soon your "holy Spirit" might reveal to you that some teachings of moses were wrong because he lived in Egypt(and learned their ways), and in your wicked pride, you'd attempt to "correct" him to your own confusion....man, run from pride else you'll fall like the thousand and ten thousand WICKED men you're trying to "save".

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 5:13pm On Jul 27, 2019
michaelkaroh:

it's evident from what you just wrote that you're guilty as charged. Imagine...still trying to measure yourself against Paul....trying to make his office and gifts seem common, since you want to exalt yourself, do well to answer these questions: 1. Were you called to office by the LORD like paul?....acts 9:14-15. 2. Have you commanded demons out of men(in Jesus' name) like paul.....acts 16:18. 3. Have handkerchiefs been taken from you to heal the sick and cast out evil spirits from men like it was with Paul......acts 19:11-12. 4. Have you raised the dead like Paul.... acts 20:9-12. 5. Have you been attacked by a serpent and suffered no harm like Paul.......acts28:5. 6. Have you been imprisoned because of the gospel like paul.......acts 16:16-40 7. Have men bound by an oath sought your life like they did paul...acts 23:12-35
It's very evident that you're not even half the man paul was but you boast in your wicked pride that you have received even as he did....Now remember, the original sin of Satan was pride isaiah14:13-14.....I know, very soon your "holy Spirit" might reveal to you that some teachings of moses were wrong because he lived in Egypt(and learned their ways), and in your wicked pride, you'd attempt to "correct" him to your own confusion....man, run from pride else you'll fall like the thousand and ten thousand WICKED men you're trying to "save".
Thank you very much and God bless.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Liquidwords: 5:57pm On Jul 27, 2019
jesusjnr:
As for the saying of the OP concerning an encounter with God, I knew it wasn't from God but drawn from his own opinion concerning something he had seen concerning me. So i saw it as very insulting for him to now talk of me having an encounter with God because of an opinion he had concerning my own opinion, as though he were God.

For i disagreed with his opinion concerning T.B Joshua but didn't say that he needed an encounter with God because of that but just made my opinion known, so he should have done same with his opinion even if I don't agree with it. So that was my point concerning the "encounter" with God he talked about, for i don't do such encounters. Moreover i believe there's a point in one's relationship with God that encounters stops and walk commences.

As for Apostle Paul you know what you mean by the level of his walk with God, but I see him as my colleague in the Spirit, for there's nothing he had that I don't have or gave that I've not given, so he's no different from me even though we came at different times. So if he prays that he wants to know God, he knows what he means. I know God but I want to know Him more even to the extent that I am completely in sync with His Ways, Word and Thoughts just as my Master Jesus was. And this is my earnest desire.

Concerning criticism, I do listen to criticisms but I believe that it's my perogative to choose which is right or wrong and not that if I listen but don't follow it because I think they are unfounded or not wise, that means I am not open to criticisms.

The level I walk at spiritually it's very difficult for most to comprehend, for it's just like Peter rebuking Jesus for trying to do the will of God thinking he was right. So that Jesus shut down Peter didn't mean that He didn't listen to criticisms but that for Peter to be able to comprehend what Jesus was doing meant Peter needed to upgrade to the level of the Spirit that Jesus walked at. Hence the saying of Jesus for him "deny himself" etc.

The inspiration behind the jesusjnr moniker is because I rep His Words for if you see my signature and follow most of my comments here you would pretty much always see me pointing people to His Words, for I believe that it ought to be the standard for those of the church.

It's easier said than done but thanks for your effort.

Really appreciate. God bless you.


I have followed this thread quietly. I have looked through your posts and your words. It is very likely you were born again at some point in your life. But I don't know what you are "walking" with right now, but it is 150% definitely NOT the Spirit of God. If I were to speak with discernment I would say you have fallen under the power of Deceiving Spirits, Seducing Spirits coupled with the very evident spirit of pride.

You have fallen into Heresy and False teaching. You preach "another gospel" and you clearly have lost touch with the Bible and the heart of Christianity.

You actually have everything needed to become a false messiah and a personality cult. The powers at work in you have covered your spiritual eyes with a "god complex" and young man, you are surely heading for perdition if you stay on this path. I know you can't accept these words because it is even in your power anymore to do so.

I willing to bet that you have never seen any vision of Jesus. Whatever it is you saw it wasn't The Lord Jesus Christ who gave himself for us. There are many false spirits in the world with strange voices and you are in their hold.

I am willing to bet you have never had an encounter with God. A man may preach for 50 years and never encounter God. From Genesis to Revelation every single soul who did great things for God did it on the wings of an encounter. No Christian outgrows spiritual encounter. Whatever "Level of Walk with the spirit" you have is a BIG figment of your imagination.

You have clearly never been caught up in heavenly visions, you don't know the voice of the Holy Spirit, you have never even healed someone with a headache.

You are in bondage. But you can't see it. The OP of this thread @EnthronedbyGod knows this that's why he won't bother engaging you. Only the power of prayer will deliver you. And it is act of love to pray for the deliverance of a brother. That's what I think the OP is doing.

I know I know all this is rubbish and nonsense to you. I understand that you can't accept. But, hey, I just thought to throw it in still free of charge so when you are finally delivered you will come here one day and say "Mein Gott! Was I this far gone?" And guess what, you are young man.

You know all those "Jesus of Oyingbo" and "Jesus of Ikot Ekpene" yea those guys, you are following their foot steps. You know where they are now?

I know you will come up with a lengthy response to defend the sinking sand you are stuck in. You can't help yourself. But, maybe you will try and "unlook" and say "God bless you" just to look righteous. That doesn't help your case.

If you are still in there, and you have any will power left, turn back NOW to God. Where you are walking to, your feet will soon fall out from under you.

I truly hope God helps you.

Cheerio

P.S: your use of the word "For" is hard on the eyes and awkward. For I know that this is not very in sync with grammar. Sorry, I am doing it.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 6:35pm On Jul 27, 2019
Overself:
Shut ur big mouth!
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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 6:50pm On Jul 27, 2019
michaelkaroh:

it's evident from what you just wrote that you're guilty as charged. Imagine...still trying to measure yourself against Paul....trying to make his office and gifts seem common, since you want to exalt yourself, do well to answer these questions: 1. Were you called to office by the LORD like paul?....acts 9:14-15. 2. Have you commanded demons out of men(in Jesus' name) like paul.....acts 16:18. 3. Have handkerchiefs been taken from you to heal the sick and cast out evil spirits from men like it was with Paul......acts 19:11-12. 4. Have you raised the dead like Paul.... acts 20:9-12. 5. Have you been attacked by a serpent and suffered no harm like Paul.......acts28:5. 6. Have you been imprisoned because of the gospel like paul.......acts 16:16-40 7. Have men bound by an oath sought your life like they did paul...acts 23:12-35
It's very evident that you're not even half the man paul was but you boast in your wicked pride that you have received even as he did....Now remember, the original sin of Satan was pride isaiah14:13-14.....I know, very soon your "holy Spirit" might reveal to you that some teachings of moses were wrong because he lived in Egypt(and learned their ways), and in your wicked pride, you'd attempt to "correct" him to your own confusion....man, run from pride else you'll fall like the thousand and ten thousand WICKED men you're trying to "save".
Okay o. I think say na only me see am. When I talk dem say I get bad mouth.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 7:00pm On Jul 27, 2019
Liquidwords:



I have followed this thread quietly. I have looked through your posts and your words. It is very likely you were born again at some point in your life. But I don't know what you are "walking" with right now, but it is 150% definitely NOT the Spirit of God. If I were to speak with discernment I would say you have fallen under the power of Deceiving Spirits, Seducing Spirits coupled with the very evident spirit of pride.

You have fallen into Heresy and False teaching. You preach "another gospel" and you clearly have lost touch with the Bible and the heart of Christianity.

You actually have everything needed to become a false messiah and a personality cult. The powers at work in you have covered your spiritual eyes with a "god complex" and young man, you are surely heading for perdition if you stay on this path. I know you can't accept these words because it is even in your power anymore to do so.

I willing to bet that you have never seen any vision of Jesus. Whatever it is you saw it wasn't The Lord Jesus Christ who gave himself for us. There are many false spirits in the world with strange voices and you are in their hold.

I am willing to bet you have never had an encounter with God. A man may preach for 50 years and never encounter God. From Genesis to Revelation every single soul who did great things for God did it on the wings of an encounter. No Christian outgrows spiritual encounter. Whatever "Level of Walk with the spirit" you have is a BIG figment of your imagination.

You have clearly never been caught up in heavenly visions, you don't know the voice of the Holy Spirit, you have never even healed someone with a headache.

You are in bondage. But you can't see it. The OP of this thread @EnthronedbyGod knows this that's why he won't bother engaging you. Only the power of prayer will deliver you. And it is act of love to pray for the deliverance of a brother. That's what I think the OP is doing.

I know I know all this is rubbish and nonsense to you. I understand that you can't accept. But, hey, I just thought to throw it in still free of charge so when you are finally delivered you will come here one day and say "Mein Gott! Was I this far gone?" And guess what, you are young man.

You know all those "Jesus of Oyingbo" and "Jesus of Ikot Ekpene" yea those guys, you are following their foot steps. You know where they are now?

I know you will come up with a lengthy response to defend the sinking sand you are stuck in. You can't help yourself. But, maybe you will try and "unlook" and say "God bless you" just to look righteous. That doesn't help your case.

If you are still in there, and you have any will power left, turn back NOW to God. Where you are walking to, your feet will soon fall out from under you.

I truly hope God helps you.

Cheerio

P.S: your use of the word "For" is hard on the eyes and awkward. For I know that this is not very in sync with grammar. Sorry, I am doing it.

My dear, I don't know if you know Frosbel, he is an atheist now. A very bitter and hateful towards Christ atheist.

Years back, he was all over this thread preaching Jesus. Attacking atheists and all, from no where 'Boom', He became an atheist, almost all Christians were discouraged.

There's another one called Hardmirr.or, he claimed he was a pastor before, but now an atheist. He is Jesusjnr's best dude. He said Hard.mirror was better than every Christian in Nairaland. That one came, they fought too.lol. Jesusjnr is just a case.

Anyone who reads what that dude writes and applauds him, has to have something very wrong going on in them.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Anas09: 7:05pm On Jul 27, 2019
jesusjnr:
First of all just to clear any false impressions here that she may have created with her saying that we know each other, she is only known to me as an enemy and I dislike her, for I have lots of christians attackers here and she is one of the fiercest of them in Nairaland.

And the only reason I tried to forget my bitter history with her when she came back after a long break, was just because of who I was as can be confirmed by my sis here gandollar who I also had an acrimonious past with, for I thought she loved God and hence that we should focus more on what united us instead of what divided us, especially as I didn't want us to go past to our acrimonious past, for it was very bitter I must tell you.

Please visit the following link to confirm what I'm saying: https://www.nairaland.com/5284285/thousand-shall-not-fall-sideand/2#80262581

The first time she confronted me on Nairaland sometime this year, she was so venomous but I held my calm for a while because i thought she was a righteous christian, to the extent that a nairalander asked me how I was able to be so calm despite being subjected to such extent of attacks.

I later responded as she refused to see reason but sustained her attacks, and she got to know that even though I kept calm initially that it wasn't because I didn't have it in me but that I chose to keep calm.

And though I had responded intially here because of the extent to which she had taken this. (I don't know if you actually saw the extent to which she took it, mentioning those who spoke well of me and trying to play god that they were wrong to have done that). But after I had warned her so that she desist from it at least not on this thread, for you would have seen how much this thread meant to me from the onset. And even the OP said something very insulting to me here, but I chose not to say everything I had to say because of the respect i had for this thread amongst others.

But she didn't have the same thoughts with me as she took it to a whole new level, but you can see how I avoided her since then, and even abandoned my plan to take it out on her elsewhere because somehow I just thought it wasn't the best thing to do as I asked God for Him to show me how to deal with it.

So yes she's my enemy as I said nonetheless I prayed for her this morning just as I do for all my enemies even as Jesus had commanded us to do just to illustrate how I think. And as I called her name I was just laughing but that's how we roll spiritually.
Jesusjnr I don't hate you as a person o. You are not my enemy. I don't have any human enemies.

I told you I'd follow you up so that the day you will, like your friend 'hard.mirror, renegade and say Jesus is not Lord, the world will know you were fake from the outset.

And I will do it.

Every single atheist in Nairaland claims they were once Christians. Na this kind Christian person go be then go begin claim tomorrow say him been be Christian abi?
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 7:14pm On Jul 27, 2019
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 7:38pm On Jul 27, 2019
Liquidwords:



I have followed this thread quietly. I have looked through your posts and your words. It is very likely you were born again at some point in your life. But I don't know what you are "walking" with right now, but it is 150% definitely NOT the Spirit of God. If I were to speak with discernment I would say you have fallen under the power of Deceiving Spirits, Seducing Spirits coupled with the very evident spirit of pride.

You have fallen into Heresy and False teaching. You preach "another gospel" and you clearly have lost touch with the Bible and the heart of Christianity.

You actually have everything needed to become a false messiah and a personality cult. The powers at work in you have covered your spiritual eyes with a "god complex" and young man, you are surely heading for perdition if you stay on this path. I know you can't accept these words because it is even in your power anymore to do so.

I willing to bet that you have never seen any vision of Jesus. Whatever it is you saw it wasn't The Lord Jesus Christ who gave himself for us. There are many false spirits in the world with strange voices and you are in their hold.

I am willing to bet you have never had an encounter with God. A man may preach for 50 years and never encounter God. From Genesis to Revelation every single soul who did great things for God did it on the wings of an encounter. No Christian outgrows spiritual encounter. Whatever "Level of Walk with the spirit" you have is a BIG figment of your imagination.

You have clearly never been caught up in heavenly visions, you don't know the voice of the Holy Spirit, you have never even healed someone with a headache.

You are in bondage. But you can't see it. The OP of this thread @EnthronedbyGod knows this that's why he won't bother engaging you. Only the power of prayer will deliver you. And it is act of love to pray for the deliverance of a brother. That's what I think the OP is doing.

I know I know all this is rubbish and nonsense to you. I understand that you can't accept. But, hey, I just thought to throw it in still free of charge so when you are finally delivered you will come here one day and say "Mein Gott! Was I this far gone?" And guess what, you are young man.

You know all those "Jesus of Oyingbo" and "Jesus of Ikot Ekpene" yea those guys, you are following their foot steps. You know where they are now?

I know you will come up with a lengthy response to defend the sinking sand you are stuck in. You can't help yourself. But, maybe you will try and "unlook" and say "God bless you" just to look righteous. That doesn't help your case.

If you are still in there, and you have any will power left, turn back NOW to God. Where you are walking to, your feet will soon fall out from under you.

I truly hope God helps you.

Cheerio

P.S: your use of the word "For" is hard on the eyes and awkward. For I know that this is not very in sync with grammar. Sorry, I am doing it.

Lol! This post is just so funny but don't be afraid. No lengthy response, but that you're entitled to your opinion.

Thanks. God bless.

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