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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LegitBachelor: 2:07pm On Aug 01, 2019
seyewest:


Yes and No, I believe some flight may fly through some of the island like island hopper flight, interestingly Nigerians don't need visa to visit Ecuador so you can find your way to Ecuador, getting to Barbados won't be hard.
One more thing, you can fly to Dubai and get a flight on KLM, Airfrance to Ecuador and fly from Ecuador to the Caribbean if you don't have a UK Visa or EU visa.
The reason I asked is because I couldn't find any direct flight from Brazil to Bridgetown. You said Nigerians don't need visa to Ecuador, Nigerians don't need visa to Barbados (Bridgetown) also but the issue is that there are no direct flights there. It's either you pass through the US or UK or Europe and all these routes require at least a transit visa. The KLM flight you mentioned involved transiting through AMS and to my knowledge those guys require an EU visa. I've passed through AMS to another country before and they always request to see my EU visa before they stamp me through.

The Hopper Island Flight you mentioned is a route between two US territories, Honolulu and Guam. Don't you think US visa will be required for such trip?

cc: Anacye
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by seyewest(m): 2:55pm On Aug 01, 2019
LegitBachelor:
The reason I asked is because I couldn't find any direct flight from Brazil to Bridgetown. You said Nigerians don't need visa to Ecuador, Nigerians don't need visa to Barbados (Bridgetown) also but the issue is that there are no direct flights there. It's either you pass through the US or UK or Europe and all these routes require at least a transit visa. The KLM flight you mentioned involved transiting through AMS and to my knowledge those guys require an EU visa. I've passed through AMS to another country before and they always request to see my EU visa before they stamp me through.

The Hopper Island Flight you mentioned is a route between two US territories, Honolulu and Guam.
Don't you think US visa will be required for such trip?

cc: Anacye

They have Island hopper in the Caribbean as well, Visa is required at AMS for any EU,UK,Ca and US trip while they won't need it if your trip is to a visa free country.
I think you should stop looking for direct flight from Brazil to Barbados instead look for Brazil- Mex-Barbados or Brazil- Kingston-Barbados etc.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LegitBachelor: 4:20pm On Aug 01, 2019
seyewest:

Visa is required at AMS for any EU,UK,Ca and US trip while they won't need it if your trip is to a visa free country.
I think you are wrong here. A Nigerian transiting through AMS to a non-schengen area will require a transit visa. Here's a link where you can check this:

https://consular.mfaservices.nl/schengen-visa/schengen-advisor/PLWXWF/Advisor/Advisor/IntendedStay

https://www.netherlandsandyou.nl/travel-and-residence/visas-for-the-netherlands/airport-transit-visa

I think you should stop looking for direct flight from Brazil to Barbados instead look for Brazil- Mex-Barbados or Brazil- Kingston-Barbados etc.
Wow this is a great info. So in effect, a Nigerian can travel to Bridgetown, Barbados without the need for a US, UK or Schengen (EU) Visa. All he needs is a Brazil Transit Visa. This is huge. Thanks.

cc: Anacye

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LORETA: 10:38pm On Aug 01, 2019
Pls gurus in the house, if you apply for b1/b2 visa and c1/d1(seaman visa) visa at once using the same application... How much am I expected to pay. ?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LORETA: 10:41pm On Aug 01, 2019
And in the last website for choosing date and payment , is there option for both visas b1 and c1d1
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Megagens: 11:14pm On Aug 01, 2019
Hi nairalanders I recently got an interview date for a conference coming up later in the year although I have not finished filling my ds-160. However for some reasons I don’t intend to travel for the conference anymore. What should I do?should I just abscond at the interview or what?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by seyewest(m): 12:21am On Aug 02, 2019
LegitBachelor:
I think you are wrong here. A Nigerian transiting through AMS to a non-schengen area will require a transit visa. Here's a link where you can check this:
https://consular.mfaservices.nl/schengen-visa/schengen-advisor/KHQAS/advisor-result/airport-transit-visa-needed-other-country

https://www.netherlandsandyou.nl/travel-and-residence/visas-for-the-netherlands/airport-transit-visa

Wow this is a great info. So in effect, a Nigerian can travel to Bridgetown, Barbados without the need for a US, UK or Schengen (EU) Visa. All he needs is a Brazil Transit Visa. This is huge. Thanks.

cc: Anacye

From my research ''KLM announced on 1st May 2008, that ''No More Airport Transit Visa to All Destinations with KLM
Airport Transit Visa

KLM announces that transit visa is no longer required for Nigerian, Ghanaian, Liberian, Sierra Leonean and Indian Nationals if directly transiting in Amsterdam (Schiphol) to any destination if holding a valid resident permit or visa for the U.K, the U.S.A., Canada, Ireland, Japan, Bulgaria, Romania or the European Economic Area (EEA). In addition, he /she should hold a valid visa for the final destination.''

I believe also that if you're transiting through the International zone of the airport and your luggage is check through to the final destination, you don't need to clear immigration/security which means no need for transit visa.

Another angle is that if you are connecting directly from one flight to another and not leaving the airport transit zone, then you can transit without visa. However, be sure your arrival and departure flights leave from the same terminal.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LegitBachelor: 1:35am On Aug 02, 2019
seyewest:


From my research ''KLM announced on 1st May 2008, that ''No More Airport Transit Visa to All Destinations with KLM
Airport Transit Visa

KLM announces that transit visa is no longer required for Nigerian, Ghanaian, Liberian, Sierra Leonean and Indian Nationals if directly transiting in Amsterdam (Schiphol) to any destination if holding a valid resident permit or visa for the U.K, the U.S.A., Canada, Ireland, Japan, Bulgaria, Romania or the European Economic Area (EEA). In addition, he /she should hold a valid visa for the final destination.''
See the bolded in the post you referenced. The Nigerian dont need a schengen transit visa IF he is a resident of USA, etc. or possess visa in those countries. If a Nigerian don't have a US visa (or the other countries listed) and he is not a permanent resident, he will need to get a transit visa. That's my understanding of the post you referenced.

I believe also that if you're transiting through the International zone of the airport and your luggage is check through to the final destination, you don't need to clear immigration/security which means no need for transit visa.

Another angle is that if you are connecting directly from one flight to another and not leaving the airport transit zone, then you can transit without visa. However, be sure your arrival and departure flights leave from the same terminal.
I know this. What you posted is what obtains in many airports worldwide. But I've always known the airports in the US, UK and EU to have stricter rules when it comes to Transit Visa.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Lordcrixus: 8:00am On Aug 02, 2019
LegitBachelor:
See the bolded in the post you referenced. The Nigerian dont need a schengen transit visa IF he is a resident of USA, etc. or possess visa in those countries. If a Nigerian don't have a US visa (or the other countries listed) and he is not a permanent resident, he will need to get a transit visa. That's my understanding of the post you referenced.

I know this. What you posted is what obtains in many airports worldwide. But ive always known the airports in the US, UK and EU to have stricter rules when it comes to Transit Visa.

He concluded by saying if he/she has a valid visa to the final destination. A traveler will only need a transit visa if he/she will stop over in 2 schengen airports in between the itinerary as there is no border check within the schengen airports. So if you have a valid visa to those mentioned destinations and you will not be flying via any other schengen airport enroute to the final destination, then you are good to go without a transit visa.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by seyewest(m): 8:50am On Aug 02, 2019
Lordcrixus:


He concluded by saying if he/she has a valid visa to the final destination. A traveler will only need a transit visa if he/she will stop over in 2 schengen airports in between the itinerary as there is no border check within the schengen airports. So if you have a valid visa to those mentioned destinations and you will not be flying via any other schengen airport enroute to the final destination, then you are good to go without a transit visa.

e.g Lagos- Amsterdam (Connecting Flight with KLM) -Dubai.
Even without EU visa, you will connecting to Dubai successfully so far you stay in the International Air transit side of the airport.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by anelsta: 11:14am On Aug 02, 2019
Good morning House,
Please does anyone here know how to go about us group invite?
Because my cousin and his friends have an invite to us next 2weeks and wanted to knw how to fill in their forms online? Re dey to use separate forms or 1 person then indicating that he/she is going with 3 or more?
Also are they to be interviewed seprately?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by TWoods(m): 12:49pm On Aug 02, 2019
anelsta:
Good morning House,
Please does anyone here know how to go about us group invite?
Because my cousin and his friends have an invite to us next 2weeks and wanted to knw how to fill in their forms online? Re dey to use separate forms or 1 person then indicating that he/she is going with 3 or more?
Also are they to be interviewed seprately?

Each person is responsible for applying for a visit visa and will be interviewed individually. Don’t waste your time sending an invite letter, it is not solicited by the consulate and will play no role in whether any one of your invitees is issued a visa or not. Each person qualifies for a visa on their own merit.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LegitBachelor: 12:50pm On Aug 02, 2019
Lordcrixus:


He concluded by saying if he/she has a valid visa to the final destination. A traveler will only need a transit visa if he/she will stop over in 2 schengen airports in between the itinerary as there is no border check within the schengen airports. So if you have a valid visa to those mentioned destinations and you will not be flying via any other schengen airport enroute to the final destination, then you are good to go without a transit visa.
Everything you posted here is wrong but I will address the bolded for now. A traveller need a full schengen visa and not transit visa when stopping over in 2 schengen airports. It's only when he is transiting only one schengen airport and the final destination is outside a schengen area that he will need a schengen transit visa (unless he meets the exemption requirements).

The exemption requirement is that the person should have a greencard/visa for any one of the ffg countries US or UK or Canada or Ireland or Japan or Bulgaria or Romania or the European Economic Area (EEA). Which is a tall order if you ask me.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LegitBachelor: 1:25pm On Aug 02, 2019
seyewest:


e.g Lagos- Amsterdam (Connecting Flight with KLM) -Dubai.
Even without EU visa, you will connecting to Dubai successfully so far you stay in the International Air transit side of the airport.
Do you know of any Nigerian (without US or UK visa) who used this route without a Schengen Transit Visa? I don't think so.

Below is a screenshot of the ATV rules. Nigerians need a transit visa unless he meets the exemption requirement.

Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Fasinaola1: 2:39pm On Aug 02, 2019
doziej84:


Hi...I'm heading to the US on F1 visa

I read somewhere that cooking utensils are quite expensive in the US...I'm wondering if I can go with a few in my baggage from Naija.

For the experienced travelers...Is it possible?
You don’t need that. You can get utensils from dollar tree.. everything there is a dollar , equivalent to 350naira. You won’t even spent up to 8k for utensils, that I’m sure of.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Chips101: 3:30pm On Aug 02, 2019
Lordcrixus:


He concluded by saying if he/she has a valid visa to the final destination. A traveler will only need a transit visa if he/she will stop over in 2 schengen airports in between the itinerary as there is no border check within the schengen airports. So if you have a valid visa to those mentioned destinations and you will not be flying via any other schengen airport enroute to the final destination, then you are good to go without a transit visa.

https://www.klm.com/travel/ng_en/campaigns/airport_transit_visa.htm
https://www.airfrance.ng/NG/en/local/page_flottante/hp/airport_transit_visa.htm
https://www.gov.uk/check-uk-visa/y/nigeria/transit/somewhere_else/no (Exemptions You don’t need a visa if you have one of the following:
a visa for Canada, New Zealand, Australia or the USA (this can be used for travel to any country)

These websites explain what Lordcrixus is saying. If you are flying LAGOS--PARIS--NEW YORK for example, as long as you are transiting through specific airports mentioned (CDG, Schiphol, and for the UK usually Gatwick/Heathrow), you do not need a transit visa as long as you have a VALID visa for your final destination i.e. the US.

If you need to change airports (i.e. you need to go through immigration), then you require a visa.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LegitBachelor: 3:43pm On Aug 02, 2019
Chips101:


https://www.klm.com/travel/ng_en/campaigns/airport_transit_visa.htm
https://www.airfrance.ng/NG/en/local/page_flottante/hp/airport_transit_visa.htm
https://www.gov.uk/check-uk-visa/y/nigeria/transit/somewhere_else/no (Exemptions You don’t need a visa if you have one of the following:
a visa for Canada, New Zealand, Australia or the USA (this can be used for travel to any country)

These websites explain what Lordcrixus is saying. If you are flying LAGOS--PARIS--NEW YORK for example, as long as you are transiting through specific airports mentioned (CDG, Schiphol, and for the UK usually Gatwick/Heathrow), you do not need a transit visa as long as you have a VALID visa for your final destination i.e. the US.

If you need to change airports (i.e. you need to go through immigration), then you require a visa.

Of course I agree that you don't need a Transit Visa for the route you just mentioned. If you read my post you'll see that exemptions are granted to Nigerians who are holders of US visas.

My argument with Lordcrixus is on the difference between a Schengen Transit Visa and a Schengen Short Stay Visa (regular visa). When transiting only one Schengen area (eg LOS - AMS - DXB), you'll need a Schengen Transit Visa. However, when transiting more than one Schengen area (eg LOS - AMS - CDG - DXB), you'll need a Schengen Short Stay Visa and not a Transit Visa. But if you have a US or UK or Canada or EEA visa, then you don't need either Transit or Short Stay Visa.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by OmoBendel24: 4:56pm On Aug 02, 2019
LegitBachelor:
Of course I agree that you don't need a Transit Visa for the route you just mentioned. If you read my post you'll see that exemptions are granted to Nigerians who are holders of US visas.

My argument with Lordcrixus is on the difference between a Schengen Transit Visa and a Schengen Short Stay Visa (regular visa). When transiting only one Schengen area (eg LOS - AMS - DXB), you'll need a Schengen Transit Visa. However, when transiting more than one Schengen area (eg LOS - AMS - CDG - DXB), you'll need a Schengen Short Stay Visa and not a Transit Visa. But if you have a US or UK or Canada or EEA visa, then you don't need either Transit or Short Stay Visa.

True, but the US (and other exemption qualifying) visa(s) won’t allow do more than one Schengen Area Airport in any particular trip. I’m with you on most of what you have been saying since.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LegitBachelor: 5:19pm On Aug 02, 2019
OmoBendel24:


True, but the US (and other exemption qualifying) visa(s) won’t allow do more than one Schengen Area Airport in any particular trip. I’m with you on most of what you have been saying since.
Oh really? Thanks for the clarification. I hope Seyewest, Lordcrixus and Chips101 take note of this clarification as well.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by seyewest(m): 5:39pm On Aug 02, 2019
LegitBachelor:
Oh really? Thanks for the clarification. I hope Seyewest, Lordcrixus and Chips101 taje note of this clarification as well.

My argument is not about holder of U.S, UK or EU visa but a passenger on the way to Dubai and flying with KLM will transit through Amsterdam airport (International Transit Airside) without EU visa so far the Aircraft is flying from the same terminal.
True holder of U.K, U.S and Canada visa can only transit through one EU airport not two.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LegitBachelor: 5:43pm On Aug 02, 2019
seyewest:
A passenger on the way to Dubai and flying with KLM will transit through Amsterdam airport (International Transit Airside) without EU visa so far the Aircraft is flying from the same terminal.
This your statement is not true if that passenger is a Nigerian. I'm of the position that he'll need a Transit EU visa since he is Nigerian and has no US/UK/EEU Visa. Omobendel24 what's your take on this?

@Seyewest, @Lordcrixus & @Chips101, I also recommend you check out this official EU link:

https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas/visa-policy/apply_for_a_visa_en

Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Megagens: 6:41pm On Aug 02, 2019
Megagens:
Hi nairalanders I recently got an interview date for a conference coming up later in the year although I have not finished filling my ds-160. However for some reasons I don’t intend to travel for the conference anymore. What should I do?should I just abscond at the interview or what?
Pls I need a reply to this
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Beautyaddy: 6:52pm On Aug 02, 2019
Megagens:
Hi nairalanders I recently got an interview date for a conference coming up later in the year although I have not finished filling my ds-160. However for some reasons I don’t intend to travel for the conference anymore. What should I do?should I just abscond at the interview or what?

Megagens:

Pls I need a reply to this


Have you made payments yet?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by groovychik(f): 7:03pm On Aug 02, 2019
Call the embassy and tell them you have changed your travel plans. Ask them to cancel the appointment and open up the receipt so you can use it another time. Once that is done, you have a year from paying for the Visa to use it. If you decide not to use it within the one year, no one questions it. You can Google the embassy number and also send an email. That is better than "absconding".

Megagens:

Pls I need a reply to this

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by OmoBendel24: 8:12pm On Aug 02, 2019
seyewest:


My argument is not about holder of U.S, UK or EU visa but a passenger on the way to Dubai and flying with KLM will transit through Amsterdam airport (International Transit Airside) without EU visa so far the Aircraft is flying from the same terminal.
True holder of U.K, U.S and Canada visa can only transit through one EU airport not two.

How you wan come take enter the plane for Lagos/Abuja, Do you see the “aduro” implication of this? Calculate am again first sha.... You see US and Canada as dem respect each other reach so? E get why if you no get one of dem visa and you get for the other, the one wey you no get no go still let you transit through dem. Barbados and all those countries wey we be visa-free to so, none of the US or Canada go lailai allow awa people transit for their country without visa enroute Barbados and their gang. All these EU countries, the US, Canada and UK get their border to protect die, the reason you dey see say na better country visa you go get for your Nigeria Passport before you transit through dem naim be dat so. Dig?

Cc: LegitBachelor

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by seyewest(m): 8:21pm On Aug 02, 2019
OmoBendel24:


How you wan come take enter the plane for Lagos/Abuja, Do you see the “aduro” implication of this? Calculate am again first sha.... You see US and Canada as dem respect each other reach so? E get why if you no get one of dem visa and you get for the other, the one wey you no get no go still let you transit through dem. Barbados and all those countries wey we be visa-free to so, none of the US or Canada go lailai allow awa people transit for their country without visa enroute Barbados and their gang. All these EU countries, the US, Canada and UK get their border to protect die, the reason you dey see say na better country visa you go get for your Nigeria Passport before you transit through dem naim be dat so. Dig?

Cc: LegitBachelor

After deep research, I think I'm mixing things up, you must have those visa (correct visa) to transit through EU reason almost every trip to Dubai hardly go through European Airline.
Bless you bro and we're derailing the thread.
@LegitBachelor @Chips101 and @omobendel it was nice learning from you guys.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Spanishmilf(m): 9:38pm On Aug 02, 2019
Can you please Stop this..
Local man is confused

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Individual85: 10:03pm On Aug 02, 2019
Hello all ,pls help me on dis, av scheduled interview and stated on my ds160 Dat I will travel by December but I can't even make d interview till January, do I change my travel plan by refilling ds 160fom? Will knowing someone in US be a problem ?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LegitBachelor: 10:41pm On Aug 02, 2019
seyewest:


After deep research, I think I'm mixing things up, you must have those visa (correct visa) to transit through EU reason almost every trip to Dubai hard go through European Airline.
Bless you bro and we're derailing the thread.
@LegitBachelor @Chips101 and @omobendel it was nice learning from you guys.
I'm glad we've clarified the grey areas. I actually learned something big from you for which I'm much grateful. I learned it's theoretically possible to go to Barbados through Brazil. Thus this means all one needs when going to Barbados is a Nigerian Passport with a Brazil Visa. One of the routes I'm suggesting is as follows:

Outbound
LOS - JNB - GRU (South African Airways)
GRU - PTY - POS - BGI (Copa + Caribbean Airlines)

Return
BGI - POS - PTY - GRU (Caribbean Airlines + Copa)
GRU - JNB - LOS (South African Airways)

I don't think S. Africa Airways codeshares with the other airlines but I think a Brazil Visa takes care of this.

Abbreviations
LOS - Lagos, Nigeria.
JNB - Johanessburg, South Africa.
GRU - Sao Paulo, Brazil.
PTY - Tocumen, Panama.
POS - Piarco, Trinidad and Tobago.
BGI - Bridgetown, Barbados.

The total cost is around $2400 which is on the high side, but okay considering the stress involved and the near impossibility in getting US Visa or EU Visa.

Caveat
Please note that this info is just an hypothesis. I don't physically know of anyone who successfully went to Barbados using the route I proposed with a Brazil Visa only. But I think this info is plausible.

cc: Anacye

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Spanishmilf(m): 10:45pm On Aug 02, 2019
LegitBachelor:
I'm glad we've clarified the grey areas. I actually learned something big from for which I'm much grateful. I learned it's possible to go to Barbados through Brazil. Thus this means all one needs when going to Barbados is a Nigerian Passport with a Brazil Visa. One of the routes is as follows:

Outbound
LOS - JNB - GRU (South African Airways)
GRU - PTY - POS - BGI (Copa + Caribbean Airlines)

Return
BGI - POS - PTY - GRU (Caribbean Airlines + Copa)
GRU - JNB - LOS (South African Airways)

The total cost is around $2400 which is on the high side, but okay considering the stress involved and the near impossibility in getting US Visa or EU Visa.

Caveat
Please note that this info is just an hypothesis. I don't physically know of anyone who successfully went to Barbados with a Brazil Visa only. But I think this info is plausible.
seyewest stop derailing the thread.....
He don do u lyk dat
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by GeoOla25(m): 6:41am On Aug 03, 2019
Please what’s the best travel budget for just one person to tell The consular , which includes Flight , BTA and other expenses before leaving Nigeria, as other expenses and accommodation will be handled by my Cousin in the US.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by kaad: 6:56am On Aug 03, 2019
TWoods:


Each person is responsible for applying for a visit visa and will be interviewed individually. Don’t waste your time sending an invite letter, it is not solicited by the consulate and will play no role in whether any one of your invitees is issued a visa or not. Each person qualifies for a visa on their own merit.

I have read severally here that you don't need an invitation letter for your visa application/ interview.

However, I will like to mention that when we (my family and I) went for our interview in June, the first document we asked for was a proof of what we are going for in the US (Invitation letter in our case since we were going on a visit).

so I strongly advise you go with one. is better you had it than regret why you did not come with one if asked.

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