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jcross19:
you are the most confused here simple question I asked where in the bible Jesus called himself God? except He says Me and My father are one meaning Jesus was trying to explained the type of relationship between him and God . now listen Jesus divinity was strictly considered by the meeting of so called church Fathers in year 6th century ACE that was the time Jesus was considered devine . but to me Jesus is my lord and my savior but the truth is that there is God that sit on the throne.

You want to know where in the Bible Jesus called himself God?

Here are the places :

Revelation 1:8-11 KJV
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[9] I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[10] I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
[11] Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.


Probably you did not read this below scriptures b4 . Jesus was accused of calling himself God by saying 'he and his Father are one' . Jesus did not deny this :

John 10:32-39 KJV
Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
[33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
[34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
[35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
[36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? [
37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. [38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
[39] Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

If you still don't believe :
John 1:1-2 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.

I wouldn't have bothered myself contributing to this thread if it wasn't for the unbeliever that commented earlier. The reason being , whether we believe the divinity of Jesus or not ,when we get to heaven we shall know.
And I know the Scriptures cannot be broken.

jcross19:
you are the most confused here simple question I asked where in the bible Jesus called himself God? except He says Me and My father are one meaning Jesus was trying to explained the type of relationship between him and God . now listen Jesus divinity was strictly considered by the meeting of so called church Fathers in year 6th century ACE that was the time Jesus was considered devine . but to me Jesus is my lord and my savior but the truth is that there is God that sit on the throne.

You want to know where Jesus called himself God? Then see below




Jesus Said He Existed Before Abraham and called himself I AM. Who is I AM ?

"Your father Abraham rejoiced as he looked forward to my coming. He saw it and was glad."
The people said, "You aren't even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?"
Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I AM!"4

Jesus Said to See Him is the Same as Seeing God

Jesus shouted to the crowds, "If you trust me, you are trusting not only me, but also God who sent me[b]. For when you see me, you are seeing the one who sent me[/b]. I have come as a light to shine in this dark world, so that all who put their trust in me will no longer remain in the dark."5

"No one can come to the Father except through me. If you had really known me, you would know who my Father is. From now on, you do know him and have seen him!"
Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied."
Jesus replied, "Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and yet you still don't know who I am? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father! [/b]So why are you asking me to show him to you?"

Jesus Said He Could Forgive Sins
"...that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins"--he then said to the paralytic--"Rise, pick up your bed and go home." And he rose and went home. When the crowds saw it, they were afraid, and they glorified God..."

He said to them, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world[b]. I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins."

Jesus says He is God and if you don't believe you will die in your sins

Jesus Said He Is the Judge and Can Grant Eternal Life
"For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will. The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father."


Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live." Jesus is life , and you think He is a mere human or and angel? Which angel is life and resurrection? Who else is life but God?

"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand."

"For it is my Father's will that all who see his Son and believe in him should have eternal life. I will raise them up at the last day."

Jesus Said He Was the Same as God
"The Father and I are one."
Once again the people picked up stones to kill him.
Jesus said, "At my Father's direction I have done many good works. For which one are you going to stone me?"
They replied, "We're stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God."


Is Jesus God? Why That Matters to Us
"I Am the Bread of Life"
Jesus replied, "I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never be hungry again. Whoever believes in me will never be thirsty."
"I am the way, the truth, the life"
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me."
"I am the Light of the world"
"I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."
"you will know the truth"
"If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
"have life, abundantly"
"I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd....My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand."
"I will love him"
"...he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.... If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him."
"I am with you always"
"...behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.

Anyone who still doubts that this Jesus is no other person but the same Father the creator is possessed with a demon and blinded with his conscience smeared with a hot rod.

jcross19:
Am a Christian and I believe that Jesus Christ is not a God according to mark 16vs19 : so then after the Lord had spoken unto them He was received up into heaven and sat on the right hand of GOD! ,now in john 14vs 1 say let not your heart be troubled: you believe in God , believe also in Me can you see Jesus talk about him and God here is two different entities here! .

You don't even believe what you have quoted

Do you understand what the Right Hand of God Means? Lol,

Which prophet or Angel ever asked men to believe in him? We believe in only God. For Jesus to have asked us to believe in him Jesus makes him God.

I pray your eyes are opened

bingbagbo:
You want to know where Jesus called himself God? Then see below




Jesus Said He Existed Before Abraham and called himself I AM. Who is I AM ?

"Your father Abraham rejoiced as he looked forward to my coming. He saw it and was glad."
The people said, "You aren't even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?"
Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I AM!"4

Jesus Said to See Him is the Same as Seeing God

Jesus shouted to the crowds, "If you trust me, you are trusting not only me, but also God who sent me[b]. For when you see me, you are seeing the one who sent me[/b]. I have come as a light to shine in this dark world, so that all who put their trust in me will no longer remain in the dark."5

"No one can come to the Father except through me. If you had really known me, you would know who my Father is. From now on, you do know him and have seen him!"
Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied."
Jesus replied, "Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and yet you still don't know who I am? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father! [/b]So why are you asking me to show him to you?"

Jesus Said He Could Forgive Sins
"...that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins"--he then said to the paralytic--"Rise, pick up your bed and go home." And he rose and went home. When the crowds saw it, they were afraid, and they glorified God..."

He said to them, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world[b]. I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins."

Jesus says He is God and if you don't believe you will die in your sins

Jesus Said He Is the Judge and Can Grant Eternal Life
"For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will. The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father."


Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live." Jesus is life , and you think He is a mere human or and angel? Which angel is life and resurrection? Who else is life but God?

"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand."

"For it is my Father's will that all who see his Son and believe in him should have eternal life. I will raise them up at the last day."

Jesus Said He Was the Same as God
"The Father and I are one."
Once again the people picked up stones to kill him.
Jesus said, "At my Father's direction I have done many good works. For which one are you going to stone me?"
They replied, "We're stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God."


Is Jesus God? Why That Matters to Us
"I Am the Bread of Life"
Jesus replied, "I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never be hungry again. Whoever believes in me will never be thirsty."
"I am the way, the truth, the life"
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me."
"I am the Light of the world"
"I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."
"you will know the truth"
"If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
"have life, abundantly"
"I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd....My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand."
"I will love him"
"...he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.... If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him."
"I am with you always"
"...behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.

Anyone who still doubts that this Jesus is no other person but the same Father the creator is possessed with a demon and blinded with his conscience smeared with a hot rod.

no where Jesus called himself God and that word " I am" is different from I am who I am even I am who I am is not even a name God did not want to tell moses His name that's all.Jesus said in my FATHER House who is the father is talking about ? so Jesus is talking about himself? ah God?

If Jesus is God almighty, then my puppy dog is godzilla.

Dollarseeker:
lols the problem is that you guys don't read Ur bible. Angel Gabriel respected her with the word Hail FULL of grace, the Lord is with you ( this greeting from Angel Gabriel forms the first sentence for the Rosary ) and Elizabeth sentence " Blessed are u amongst women and blessed is the fruit of your womb" which forms the other sentence of the Rosary. Mary was filled with The Holy Spirit, and in her own words she praid and said...behold from now ends fort ALL GENERATIONS shall call me blessed. Are you among those that calls her blessed? The Blessed Virgin Mary is our heavenly Mother who cares for us....God bless you my friend. Respect and Honor the Great Mother of God, Mary most Holy...the Queen of Heaven. (not worship)

The messenger of YHVH, Gabriel, respected Mary because of what she had been assigned to do --- bear the Saviour of the world. She had been appointed (found worthy) to act as vessel through which the Savior of the world, Yahushua the Messiah, would come into the world. So, every servant or saint of YHVH Almighty will be accorded some form of respect or honour by the messengers of YHVH Almighty whenever he sends them to him or her, especially those to whom he has assigned a specific task.

Read:

Judges 6:12 When the angel of YHVH appeared to Gideon, he said, 'YHVH is with you, mighty warrior.'

Dan 10:10-11 A hand touched me and set me trembling on my hands and knees. He said, ' Daniel, you who are highly esteemed, consider carefully the words I am about to speak to you, stand up, for I have now been sent to you.' And when he said this to me, I stood up trembling.

Also read Dan 9:23.

Mary did not favour herself. Instead, Mary was favoured because YHVH Almighty was with her. It was YHVH Almighty that favoured Miriam. She did not favour herself because she had no power to do so.

Elizabeth was also favoured because she bore the forerunner of the Messiah. Elizabeth feared and honoured the Father in heaven and that is why she was able to recognise who Miriam was carrying --- the Saviour of the world, her Master and Mary's Master. Of course Mary became blessed because she had been chosen as a vessel to deliver YHVH's Son into the world.

Mary was only filled with the Set-apart Spirit because of the baby in her womb --- Yahushua. Every single saint or servant of YHVH Almighty is filled with the Spirit of the Father because he/she has has the Word --- the Messiah --- in them. Anyone who has the Word, the Son, has the Father also. John 14:23.

Yes Mary is blessed. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Aaron, Samuel, king David, the prophets - Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, etc - the apostles - Peter, James, Paul, Silas, etc - are all blessed. This saint, Elated177, and every other saint of YHVH Almighty anywhere on the surface of the earth, irrespective of tribe, race, ethnicity or status - rich or poor - is blessed.

Mary is not the heavenly mother of any saint of YHVH Almighty, especially not that of this saint. I have heavenly Father, YHVH Almighty. I don't have a heavenly mother.

Mary is in no state to care for anyone today. She served and fulfilled her purpose as a chosen vessel to bring the Saviour into the world. She, like the patriarchs, the prophets, righteous kings of old, and the apostles, is waiting for the day of judgment at the last day.

The only respect any saint should give to Mary is the one recorded in the Scriptures, recognizing her as a vessel chosen by the King of kings to deliver his Son into the world.

However, if you have chosen these as your beliefs, Mary as your heavenly mother, your queen of heaven and the mother of your god, then I respect that and will neither insult you or quarrel with you over such. Same goes for anyone else in your line of beliefs. I expect you to accord me the same respect. You see, a servant can only deliver the message. The Father draws people he loves to his Word, his Son. After all, the righteous walk is an individual one. We will all stand individually before the judgment seat of the Righteous Judge and answer for our actions while in this mortal body.

What do you make of Luke 8:19-21?


Before you start accusing me of bashing Catholic Church, know that I was born and baptised in Catholic Church, owned and prayed the rosary for years and even belonged to saint Anthony. So, this is neither about Catholic Church nor anyone, rather it is about what I have read in my Scriptures and what I have come to understand.


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

Abdulgaffar22:
1. Jesus was praying to the Father and he said; "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent (John 17:3)" . If Jesus himself was referring to another person (i:e the Father) as the "ONLY true God" , then how could Jesus be God ? If Jesus did not use the word "ONLY", then hopefully the Christians might still want to argue that Jesus is also another true God just like his Father. However, the word "ONLY" used by Jesus will continue to shatter the hope of those who want to believe that Jesus is God.

2. Similarly in John 20:17, Jesus was reported to have said “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God”. If Jesus is God Almighty, then which God was he referring to when he said ; "my God and your God" ? Can God Almighty have another God?

3. Also Luke 6:12 says "He (Jesus) went out to the mountain side to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God" . If Jesus is God, who was he praying to? Was he praying to himself ?

4. Similarly, in John 14:28, Jesus said: “My Father is GREATER THAN I”. If Jesus is Almighty God, why is he having someone greater than him? Can anybody be greater than Almighty God?

5. Again in Mark 10:17-18 says as follows ; "Now as He was going out on the road, one came running, knelt before Him, and asked Him, “Good Teacher, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?” So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.”.
If Jesus is God, why did he reject being called “good” and then submit that all goodness belongs only to God?

6. Furthermore, in John 14:1, Jesus said “let not your heart be troubled: you believe in God, believe also in me”. Remember Jesus did NOT say: "you believe in Father, believe also in me". He said : "you believe in God, believe also in me”. Therefore, if Jesus is God, why did he clearly distinguish himself from God?

7. Again, in Matthew 24:36, Jesus said; “But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the son, but ONLY THE FATHER”. If Jesus is God, why did he confess his lack of knowledge about the Day of Judgment and then submit that the knowledge of that day belongs only to the Father? Can God be lacking anything as regard to knowledge?

Your whole argument borders on the identity of Yahushua the Messiah as the Word and begotten Son of YHVH of Hosts.

One vital question:

Do you or do you not believe that Yahushua the Messiah is the Word and begotten Son of YHVH of Hosts, the Creator of the ends of the earth?

Yes Yahushua the Messiah deserves worship.

Only YHVH, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the sea and all that is in them, deserves worship. He, YHVH the Father of the spirits of all flesh, deserves to be worshipped by all he created.

Duet 5:7 You shall have no other gods before me.

But has that stopped people from worshipping all sorts of things -stones, mountains, wood, the sun, the moon, the stars, etc.

Deut 4:15 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that YHVH spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:

4:16 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

4:17 The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,

4:18 The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:

4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which YHVH thy Elohim hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

4:20 But YHVH hath taken you, and brought you forth out of the iron furnace, even out of Egypt, to be unto him a people of inheritance, as ye are this day.

Do you not realize that YHVH of Hosts is one with his Word? The Father and his Word are one. If YHVH honours himself, he is also honouring his Word. If he honours his Word, he is honouring himself. If YHVH glorifies his Word, he is glorifying himself. If YHVH glorifies himself, he is directly glorifying his Word as well. This is why anyone who honours the Word of YHVH of Hosts, honours YHVH himself. Anyone who worships YHVH of Hosts, worships his Word. Anyone who does not obey the Word does not obey the Owner of the Word. The Scriptures have made it abundantly clear that the Word of YHVH of Hosts is his begotten Son, Yahushua the Messiah. YHVH of Hosts is God, his Word is God. YHVH of Hosts is Law, his Word is Law. YHVH of Hosts is the Master, God, Father of his Word. YHVH El Shaddai is above and greater than his Word.

At this juncture, I ask you, Abdulgaffar22, do you or do you not accept the identity of Yahushua the Messiah as the Word and begotten Son of YHVH Almighty, the Fatherof the spirits of all flesh?

If your answer is yes, then a lot of things will make sense to you.

However, if your answer is no, there is nothing I will say here that will make any sense to you.

Once the relationship between YHVH the Father and his Word - his Son - is distorted, there is nothing in the New Covenant (Matthew to Revelation) that will make any sense to such a person.

Psalm 110:1 YHVH said unto my Master, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Psalm 45:6 Thy throne, O Elohim, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

45:7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore Elohim, thy Elohim, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

elated177:
The messenger of YHVH, Gabriel, respected Mary because of what she had been assigned to do --- bear the Saviour of the world. She had been appointed (found worthy) to act as vessel through which the Savior of the world, Yahushua the Messiah, would come into the world. So, every servant or saint of YHVH Almighty will be accorded some form of respect or honour by the messengers of YHVH Almighty whenever he sends them to him or her, especially those to whom he has assigned a specific task.

Read:

Judges 6:12 When the angel of YHVH appeared to Gideon, he said, 'YHVH is with you, mighty warrior.'

Dan 10:10-11 A hand touched me and set me trembling on my hands and knees. He said, ' Daniel, you who are highly esteemed, consider carefully the words I am about to speak to you, stand up, for I have now been sent to you.' And when he said this to me, I stood up trembling.

Also read Dan 9:23.

Mary did not favour herself. Instead, Mary was favoured because YHVH Almighty was with her. It was YHVH Almighty that favoured Miriam. She did not favour herself because she had no power to do so.

Elizabeth was also favoured because she bore the forerunner of the Messiah. Elizabeth feared and honoured the Father in heaven and that is why she was able to recognise who Miriam was carrying --- the Saviour of the world, her Master and Mary's Master. Of course Mary became blessed because she had been chosen as a vessel to deliver YHVH's Son into the world.

Mary was only filled with the Set-apart Spirit because of the baby in her womb --- Yahushua. Every single saint or servant of YHVH Almighty is filled with the Spirit of the Father because he/she has has the Word --- the Messiah --- in them. Anyone who has the Word, the Son, has the Father also. John 14:23.

Yes Mary is blessed. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Aaron, Samuel, king David, the prophets - Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, etc - the apostles - Peter, James, Paul, Silas, etc - are all blessed. This saint, Elated177, and every other saint of YHVH Almighty anywhere on the surface of the earth, irrespective of tribe, race, ethnicity or status - rich or poor - is blessed.

Mary is not the heavenly mother of any saint of YHVH Almighty, especially not that of this saint. I have heavenly Father, YHVH Almighty. I don't have a heavenly mother.

Mary is in no state to care for anyone today. She served and fulfilled her purpose as a chosen vessel to bring the Saviour into the world. She, like the patriarchs, the prophets, righteous kings of old, and the apostles, is waiting for the day of judgment at the last day.

The only respect any saint should give to Mary is the one recorded in the Scriptures, recognizing her as a vessel chosen by the King of kings to deliver his Son into the world.

However, if you have chosen these as your beliefs, Mary as your heavenly mother, your queen of heaven and the mother of your god, then I respect that and will neither insult you or quarrel with you over such. Same goes for anyone else in your line of beliefs. I expect you to accord me the same respect. You see, a servant can only deliver the message. The Father draws people he loves to his Word, his Son. After all, the righteous walk is an individual one. We will all stand individually before the judgment seat of the Righteous Judge and answer for our actions while in this mortal body.

What do you make of Luke 8:19-21?


Before you start accusing me of bashing Catholic Church, know that I was born and baptised in Catholic Church, owned and prayed the rosary for years and even belonged to saint Anthony. So, this is neither about Catholic Church nor anyone, rather it is about what I have read in my Scriptures and what I have come to understand.


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

so what is ur point now. the fact that u left the Catholic church doesn't mean understand the Bible very well. If you really don't understand that Mary is the Mother of God(Jesus Christ who is God) then you have not really understood and know who Christ is. His grace and mercy is always sufficient for us. ask God to give you wisdom to know the truth and understand the bible properly through the power of the Holy Spirit.

enilove:
You want to know where in the Bible Jesus called himself God?

Here are the places :

Revelation 1:8-11 KJV
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[9] I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[10] I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
[11] Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.


Probably you did not read this below scriptures b4 . Jesus was accused of calling himself God by saying 'he and his Father are one' . Jesus did not deny this :

John 10:32-39 KJV
Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
[33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
[34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
[35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
[36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? [
37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. [38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
[39] Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

If you still don't believe :
John 1:1-2 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.

I wouldn't have bothered myself contributing to this thread if it wasn't for the unbeliever that commented earlier. The reason being , whether we believe the divinity of Jesus or not ,when we get to heaven we shall know.
And I know the Scriptures cannot be broken.

** Yeshua (Jesus)
Enilove, John10:33-36

John10:33,Who said : "thou makest thyself God"?
Answer: The Jews said so. Not Jesus.
The Jews LIED.
John10:34-36] Jesus answered them,...and the Scripture cannot be broken;
[36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
** John10:36, Jesus said, because I said, I am the Son of God?

*2) Enilove False Claim:"Jesus was accused of calling himself God by saying 'he and his Father are one' . Jesus did not deny this :
Enilove and her spouse are one. "God made them one" Mal2:15.
Matt19:6, how did man and wife become ONE flesh?
**Is Eni and her spouse ONE being?

[Aramaic Bible in Plain English]
**Rev1:1,5-8.

1 The Revelation of Yeshua The Messiah,
which God gave to him, to show his
Servants what had been given to soon
occur, and he symbolized* it when he sent
by his Angel to his Servant Yohannan,
* 5 And from Yeshua The
Messiah, the Trustworthy Witness, the
Firstborn of the dead and The Ruler of the
Kings of The Earth- him who loves us and
has loosed* us from our sins by his blood.
6 And he has made us The Priestly Kingdom
to God and his Father; to him be glory and
Empire to the eternity of eternities. Amen.
7 Behold, he comes with clouds and every
eye shall see him, even those who pierced
him, and all the families of The Earth shall
mourn for him; yes and amen!
8 I am The Alap and The Tau*, says THE
LORD JEHOVAH God, he who is and has
been and is coming, The Almighty.

** Yeshua (Jesus) choose us to "serve God his Father"(verse 6), why does your "almighty God" in heaven have a Father in heaven if he is "almighty"?

**who is the Almighty God in Rev1:8?
NOTE:
(i) Rev "I am the beginning and the end" was added to the KJV. Those words do not exist in the oldest mss available.

(2) *Rev1:11 "I am alpha and omega" was smuggled into the KJV too.
Just to support a man made scam.

Thomas said "my God", (John 20:28), Jesus in heaven said "my God" (Rev3:2), are they saying the same thing?

Come here & LIE that "my God" means something else..... Lol.

bingbagbo:
(1) You want to know where Jesus called himself God? Then see below


Jesus Said He Existed Before Abraham and called himself I AM. Who is I AM ?

"Your father Abraham rejoiced as he looked forward to my coming. He saw it and was glad."

*2) Jesus Said to See Him is the Same as Seeing God

Jesus shouted to the crowds, "If you trust me, you are trusting not only me, but also God who sent me[b]. For when you see me, you are seeing the one who sent me[/b].
"5

"No one can come to the Father except through me. If you had really known me, you would know who my Father is. From now on, you do know him and have seen him!"
Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied."
Jesus replied, "Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and yet you still don't know who I am? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father! [/b]So why are you asking me to show him to you?"



Jesus says He is God and if you don't believe you will die in your sins

Jesus Said He Is the Judge and Can Grant Eternal Life
"For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will. The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father."


Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live." Jesus is life , and you think He is a mere human or and angel? Which angel is life and resurrection? Who else is life but God?

"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand."

"For it is my Father's will that all who see his Son and believe in him should have eternal life. I will raise them up at the last day."

Jesus Said He Was the Same as God
"The Father and I are one."
Once again the people picked up stones to kill him.
Jesus said, "At my Father's direction I have done many good works. For which one are you going to stone me?"
They replied, "We're stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God."


Anyone who still doubts that this Jesus is no other person but the same Father the creator is possessed with a demon and blinded with his conscience smeared with a hot rod.

Demon of falsehood built a mansion in your heart ..... lols.
Bingbagbo shameless liar.
1) How come Jesus is the servant of the God of Abraham in heaven ?(Acts3:13. Rev3:2,5).
(the God who spoke to Moses at the burning bush) .Acts3:13. Exodus 3:14,15.
Yeshua was NEVER "I am that I am".
Bingbagbo fraud claims


*2) "Jesus said, 'At my Father's direction I have done many good works."
Bingbagbo already CONTRADICTS himself.
Why would your "almighty God" need his "Father's direction"?
*3) "The Father and I are one."
"A man and his wife is ONE flesh?
"God made them ONE".
Bingbagbo ,is A man and his wife are ONE being?
(Mal2:15. Matt19:6).

,4) Jesus replied, "Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and yet you still don't know who I am? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father!
Jesus Christ is NOT the Father ,oh Lying Pharisees.,
If you welcome his disciples, you have welcome Jesus, if you welcome Jesus, you have welcomed his Father.
No man can see Jesus Father ,John 6:46. 5:37.
But we have to believe the son whom his Father sent as his representative. John7:16. 17:3.
[*Matt 10:40
“Anyone who welcomes you welcomes
me,m and anyone who welcomes me
welcomes the one who sent me."

Dollarseeker:
so what is ur point now. the fact that a left the Catholic church doesn't mean understand the Bible very well. If you really don't understand that Mary is the Mother of God(Jesus Christ who is God) then you have not really understood and know who Christ is. His grace and mercy is always sufficient for us. ask God to give you wisdom to know the truth and understand the bible properly through the power of the Holy Spirit.

Aren't my points obvious? Here you go insulting me. I never accused you of not having a good understanding of the Scriptures.

The role of Mary as the mother of Yahushua the Messiah ended the moment she delivered him into the world. She was just a vessel. Is she still mothering the Messiah today? The Messiah never ascribed any special role or honour to Mary. When you describe her as the mother of God, you are inadvertently - I hope - making her immortal and at the same time making her equal with Yahushua the Messiah, our Master. Mary is not the mother of Yahushua the Messiah, rather she was the mother of Yahushua the Messiah. There is a difference. YHVH Almighty is the Father of Yahushua the Messiah.

There are many gods, but there is one God, YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He is one with his Word, his Son, Yahushua the Messiah. YHVH Almighty is the Law in this world and to everything he has created. His Word, his Son, is the Law. The Scriptures did not mince words in alluding to this issue. Some people just decide to ignore it.

Even king David was one of the ancestors of Yahushua the Messiah genealogically, but David called Yahushua the Messiah his Master.

Mary cannot save anyone, any more than Abraham could quench the thirst of that rich man. As far as salvation is concerned, Mary's part ended the moment she delivered the Messiah into the world.

Don't worry. The Set-apart Spirit of YHVH Almighty is with and in this saint, Elated177. How else do you think I got everything I have said here? Do you think it came from human understanding? What you are propagating appeals to the flesh and not to a Set-apart Spirit-filled saint. No saint of YHVH Almighty will ever subscribe to what you are espousing.

Like I stated earlier, the righteous walk is an individual one. The Father in heaven can only draw those he loves to his Word, his Son.

There is no compulsion.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

elated177:
Aren't my points obvious? Here you go insulting me. I never accused you of not having a good understanding of the Scriptures.

The role of Mary as the mother of Yahushua the Messiah ended the moment she delivered him into the world. She was just a vessel. Is she still mothering the Messiah today? The Messiah never ascribed any special role or honour to Mary. When you describe her as the mother of God, you are inadvertently - I hope - making her immortal and at the same time making her equal with Yahushua the Messiah, our Master. Mary is not the mother of Yahushua the Messiah, rather she was the mother of Yahushua the Messiah. There is a difference. YHVH Almighty is the Father of Yahushua the Messiah.

There are many gods, but there is one God, YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He is one with his Word, his Son, Yahushua the Messiah. YHVH Almighty is the Law in this world and to everything he has created. His Word, his Son, is the Law. The Scriptures did not mince words in alluding to this issue. Some people just decide to ignore it.

Even king David was one of the ancestors of Yahushua the Messiah genealogically, but David called Yahushua the Messiah his Master.

Mary cannot save anyone, any more than Abraham could quench the thirst of that rich man. As far as salvation is concerned, Mary's paurt ended the moment she delivered the Messiah into the world.

Don't worry. The Set-apart Spirit of YHVH Almighty is with and in this saint, Elated177. How else do you think I got everything I have said here? Do you think it came from human understanding? What you are propagating appeals to the flesh and not to a Set-apart Spirit-filled saint. No saint of YHVH Almighty will ever subscribe to what you are espousing.

Like I stated earlier, the righteous walk is an individual one. The Father in heaven can only draw those he loves to his Word, his Son.

There is no compulsion.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

Gbam!