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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by AngelicBeing: 8:31pm On Aug 16, 2019
Toksvik:
I was at the Brazilian embassy in vi yesterday, and was told I needed to submit the form and other docs online before bringing it to the embassy..... this is after I had paid 36k for visit while medical is 45k at stanbic ibtc..... the visa officer told me that the visa is kind if hard now..... God will help this our green passport o, it's getting more useless by the day..... because I went with my wife for birthing runs he was saying it will not be approved... I told him to leave that to me.... countries are now getting pissed of how Nigerian misuse opportunity on foreign soil. Going back next week to submit anyway and I know God will favour us... just thought I should share my experience.
wink

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 9:52pm On Aug 16, 2019
Beautyaddy:


That's not entirely true.

Nigerians still need visa on arrival to enter that small Island...and believe it getting through is more tough than trying to get their visa from their embassy of which they don't have.

Now also for such a child to claim citizenship by just soil in Saints Kitts and Nevis is just not that straight forward like Canada, US or Brazil.

The Child that is born in Saints Kitts and Nevis will have to prove that the parents of that child are unknown or Stateless before such a child can be granted Saints Kitts and Nevis citizenship by just soil.

Thanks Beautyaddy. I am 100% sure that entering Saints Kitts and Nevis is visa free for Nigerians and not visa of arrival.

Any person born on the island after 1983 is automatically a citizen even if both parents are foreigners. There are only 2 exceptions: Children born before independence (1983) are citizens if their parents are stateless and number 2. Children born to diplomats.

Since this platform is for giving birth in Brazil, i rest my case will comment no further on this.

Cheers

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 10:41pm On Aug 16, 2019
Toksvik:
I was at the Brazilian embassy in vi yesterday, and was told I needed to submit the form and other docs online before bringing it to the embassy..... this is after I had paid 36k for visit while medical is 45k at stanbic ibtc..... the visa officer told me that the visa is kind if hard now..... God will help this our green passport o, it's getting more useless by the day..... because I went with my wife for birthing runs he was saying it will not be approved... I told him to leave that to me.... countries are now getting pissed of how Nigerian misuse opportunity on foreign soil. Going back next week to submit anyway and I know God will favour us... just thought I should share my experience.

Hi Toksvik. I wish you all the best. Do not give up.

I will however like to point out a few technicalities. I have written extensively on this on this platform and I will use this opportunity to remind us all.

It is not illegal to give birth in Brazil but there is however no visa category to apply to give birth in Brazil. (Welcome to Brazilian bureaucracy). Unlike the US, the medical treatment visa for Brazil does not include giving birth. In fact, it is currently considered safer to give birth in Nigeria than Brazil due to the zika outbreak some time ago.

Like i said before, if you present yourself as applying for a visa to give birth in Brazil, you are most likely going to be denied. Not because they don’t want you to give birth in Brazil but simply because there is no visa category for you. Unfortunately, the visa officer cannot create a category just for you. It’s just does not exist. Let us not confuse Brazil with the US.

I said it over and over again here but people have rather been advised to apply for medical visa. You see... some people may have been in Brazil 20 times longer than some of us but in terms of giving birth, it is a different ball game all together. Unless you have experienced it personally and most recently, your information will be misleading. Brazilian law can be very confusing. You only get to know a specific law when you come in contact with it. I am not claiming to be an expert of the law. In fact, I know nothing considering how complex Brazilian law can be and because this is an opened platform, i guess we are all free to share our knowledge. Just make sure you filter and choose the information we share here wisely.

Cheers

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Toksvik: 7:41pm On Aug 17, 2019
So are you saying that my wife should just apply for visit then rather than medical?
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Toksvik: 7:45pm On Aug 17, 2019
Giving birth in nigeria for me now isnt just an option for me as the future of the green passport isnt just a great one...... God will help us.......
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by LMay(f): 7:05am On Aug 18, 2019
Yes, apply for Visit. She has once said that earlier in the thread.

Is your wife showing yet?

Toksvik:
So are you saying that my wife should just apply for visit then rather than medical?

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 8:40am On Aug 18, 2019
Toksvik:
So are you saying that my wife should just apply for visit then rather than medical?

Hi Toksvik. Your situation is a bit complicated especially that you have already discussed with the visa officer that your wife is intending to go and give birth.

I know it’s not your fault because it is normal to apply for visa to give birth in the US but Brazil is different. So far, everyone i know on this platform and outside this platform and myself gave birth in Brazil on tourist visas.

You see, the Brazilian law is such a way that when it comes to having your baby born in the country, the authorities do not care how you entered Brazil to give birth. Your baby will be Brazilian and you and your partner will get permanent residency even if you entered Brazil under the sea.

Unlike the US where you are most likely to be ban from obtaining a visa again after giving birth on a visit visa, with Brazil, you will never ever need a visa again to enter Brazil with your permanent residency. So how you enter the country is irrelevant under the law. The most important thing is that your baby is born in Brazil. Your right to permanent residency is not defined by an immigration law which can easily be changed and at the discretion of the immigration officer but in the National constitution which states that the parents of a Brazilian child cannot be expelled from the country under any circumstance. Even if the immigration officer does not like you, he or she has no choice than to obey the constitution of the land.

In your case however, I cannot advice any specific visa for you because you have informed the VO already. Use your own judgement at this point.

Cheers

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by LewinskyMon: 10:24am On Aug 18, 2019
Adjo10:


Hi Toksvik. Your situation is a bit complicated especially that you have already discussed with the visa officer that your wife is intending to go and give birth.

I know it’s not your fault because it is normal to apply for visa to give birth in the US but Brazil is different. So far, everyone i know on this platform and outside this platform and myself gave birth in Brazil on tourist visas.

You see, the Brazilian law is such a way that when it comes to having your baby born in the country, the authorities do not care how you entered Brazil to give birth. Your baby will be Brazilian and you and your partner will get permanent residency even if you entered Brazil under the sea.

Unlike the US where you are most likely to be ban from obtaining a visa again after giving birth on a visit visa, with Brazil, you will never ever need a visa again to enter Brazil with your permanent residency. So how you enter the country is irrelevant under the law. The most important thing is that your baby is born in Brazil. Your right to permanent residency is not defined by an immigration law which can easily be changed and at the discretion of the immigration officer but in the National constitution which states that the parents of a Brazilian child cannot be expelled from the country under any circumstance. Even if the immigration officer does not like you, he or she has no choice than to obey the constitution of the land.

In your case however, I cannot advice any specific visa for you because you have informed the VO already. Use your own judgement at this point.

Cheers
Nicely put

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by LewinskyMon: 10:30am On Aug 18, 2019
Toksvik:
So are you saying that my wife should just apply for visit then rather than medical?
l think so
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Graceee: 11:09am On Aug 18, 2019
Ajokeomo:
Hello,

So I got into Brazil last night and I must say that the people are very friendly especially at the airport in São Paulo. You’ll always find someone who speaks English there and willing to help. I was worried about racism and so far I have experienced none despite the fact that 99 percent of people I have seen and related with are white.

In Rio however, it’s difficult to communicate with people except the hotel attendants. I had a difficult time trying to make purchases at the supermarkets. No one speaks English and the labels and instructions are all written in portugese. I’m not someone who likes to try new food so eating has been somewhat difficult for me also

I’m only in Rio for few days and still trying to decide between Sao Paulo and Florianópolis. Please I’ll need suggestions on safe and affordable areas in São Paulo.

There were Nigerians in the flight to São Paulo, about 4 of them speaking Yoruba. I spoke with one when we landed, asked him a few questions but missed him in the process of finding my next flight (which was difficult because the airport is so big)


Congrats dear.
1.Please where you invited to come to the brazialian embassy before visa was issued
2. Did you apply for tourism or invitation letter
3. like how much should one have in account to make this application?
4. do you good travel history before lodging your brazillian visa application??
pls reply. thank you

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by folmus: 3:28pm On Aug 18, 2019
Graceee:



Congrats dear.
1.Please where you invited to come to the brazialian embassy before visa was issued
2. Did you apply for tourism or invitation letter
3. like how much should one have in account to make this application?
4. do you good travel history before lodging your brazillian visa application??
pls reply. thank you

She has repeated these answers severally; click on her name you will see her posts.

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Graceee: 3:48pm On Aug 18, 2019
folmus:


She has repeated these answers severally; click on her name you will see her posts.

Please answer them for me.
as I could not see all of them in her previous post.
pls folmus complete them for me
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Kokopuff(f): 3:56pm On Aug 18, 2019
Adjo10:


Hi Toksvik. I wish you all the best. Do not give up.

I will however like to point out a few technicalities. I have written extensively on this on this platform and I will use this opportunity to remind us all.

It is not illegal to give birth in Brazil but there is however no visa category to apply to give birth in Brazil. (Welcome to Brazilian bureaucracy). Unlike the US, the medical treatment visa for Brazil does not include giving birth. In fact, it is currently considered safer to give birth in Nigeria than Brazil due to the zika outbreak some time ago.

Like i said before, if you present yourself as applying for a visa to give birth in Brazil, you are most likely going to be denied. Not because they don’t want you to give birth in Brazil but simply because there is no visa category for you. Unfortunately, the visa officer cannot create a category just for you. It’s just does not exist. Let us not confuse Brazil with the US.

I said it over and over again here but people have rather been advised to apply for medical visa. You see... some people may have been in Brazil 20 times longer than some of us but in terms of giving birth, it is a different ball game all together. Unless you have experienced it personally and most recently, your information will be misleading. Brazilian law can be very confusing. You only get to know a specific law when you come in contact with it. I am not claiming to be an expert of the law. In fact, I know nothing considering how complex Brazilian law can be and because this is an opened platform, i guess we are all free to share our knowledge. Just make sure you filter and choose the information we share here wisely.

Cheers
plz I am new to this platform..i need someone to please put me through this Brazil visa n birth plans..thank you and God bless
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Graceee: 4:27pm On Aug 18, 2019
Ajokeomo:
Hello,

So I got into Brazil last night and I must say that the people are very friendly especially at the airport in São Paulo. You’ll always find someone who speaks English there and willing to help. I was worried about racism and so far I have experienced none despite the fact that 99 percent of people I have seen and related with are white.

In Rio however, it’s difficult to communicate with people except the hotel attendants. I had a difficult time trying to make purchases at the supermarkets. No one speaks English and the labels and instructions are all written in portugese. I’m not someone who likes to try new food so eating has been somewhat difficult for me also

I’m only in Rio for few days and still trying to decide between Sao Paulo and Florianópolis. Please I’ll need suggestions on safe and affordable areas in São Paulo.

There were Nigerians in the flight to São Paulo, about 4 of them speaking Yoruba. I spoke with one when we landed, asked him a few questions but missed him in the process of finding my next flight (which was difficult because the airport is so big)

Congrats dear.
1.Please where you invited to come to the brazialian embassy before visa was issued
2. Did you apply for tourism or invitation letter
3. like how much should one have in account to make this application?
4. do you good travel history before lodging your brazillian visa application??
pls reply. thank you
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by adigunomomama(m): 5:59pm On Aug 18, 2019
I was at the embassy in Lagos, last week Thursday and I was surprised to see many applicants... I swear to God I was like OMG! lol because Brazil embassy is always dry like a church on Monday morning.


The good news is that the new Brazilian interim consular to Nigeria is cool with us and will treat your application within 10-12 days if all your documents are intact and original.

If you make it to Brazil and you are there for just your baby delivery, I will advice you to choose PARANA for your documents, it is safe and fast there now.

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by tolux8899: 7:02pm On Aug 18, 2019
Bro, Weather you apply for tourist visit or not , they won't give you since you have mentioned in the front of the consular. I did the same mistake early this year. We were denied within 6 days. Please save your money and apply next time.



Toksvik:
I was at the Brazilian embassy in vi yesterday, and was told I needed to submit the form and other docs online before bringing it to the embassy..... this is after I had paid 36k for visit while medical is 45k at stanbic ibtc..... the visa officer told me that the visa is kind if hard now..... God will help this our green passport o, it's getting more useless by the day..... because I went with my wife for birthing runs he was saying it will not be approved... I told him to leave that to me.... countries are now getting pissed of how Nigerian misuse opportunity on foreign soil. Going back next week to submit anyway and I know God will favour us... just thought I should share my experience.

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Kokopuff(f): 9:54pm On Aug 18, 2019
KAYSEE8686:
Aww i can feel your pride from here. Pls how much must one have in the bank to go to Brazil. Im planning my next baby so i want to plan well. I already have a place to stay so just need to know all the steps and cost implication. Must i receive an invitation before i apply for the visa?


please Ma, help put a smile on my face also..can I get you to guide me pease . am already 26weeks gone and need a visa asap...thanks a lot.�
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 10:09pm On Aug 18, 2019
tolux8899:
Bro, Weather you apply for tourist visit or not , they won't give you since you have mentioned in the front of the consular. I did the same mistake early this year. We were denied within 6 days. Please save your money and apply next time.

Well said tolux8899. You have summarized it nicely. There is no visa category for giving birth even though it is completely legal to give birth in Brazil. If you mention it as your purpose of visit then you get automatic denial. The VO officer cannot give you a visa that does not exit. Simple....

If you manage to enter the country and give birth, nobody cares how you entered. Simple...

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Beautyaddy: 10:20pm On Aug 18, 2019
Adjo10:


Well said tolux8899. You have summarized it nicely. There is no visa category for giving birth even though it is completely legal to give birth in Brazil. If you mention it as your purpose of visit then you get automatic denial. The VO officer cannot give you a visa that does not exit. Simple....

If you manage to enter the country and give birth, nobody cares how you entered. Simple...

Hmmm...so how many years valid is the Brazilian visa if approved for Nigerians?
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by peppo4live: 10:22pm On Aug 18, 2019
The issue on ground now is that he has paid the visa fee... I don't think the money will be refunded... He just have to try his luck
tolux8899:
Bro, Weather you apply for tourist visit or not , they won't give you since you have mentioned in the front of the consular. I did the same mistake early this year. We were denied within 6 days. Please save your money and apply next time.



Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 10:29pm On Aug 18, 2019
Beautyaddy:


Hmmm...so how many years valid is the Brazilian visa if approved for Nigerians?

In most cases the visa is valid for 1 year. Within this 1 year period you can stay in Brazil for a maximum of 180 days. (3 months and extend it for another 3 months while in Brazil).

So technically, you can even obtain the visa before you even get pregnant.

But the interesting thing is that, you will never need a visa ever again after giving birth since you will be given permanent residency.

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Beautyaddy: 10:53pm On Aug 18, 2019
Adjo10:


In most cases the visa is valid for 1 year. Within this 1 year period you can stay in Brazil for a maximum of 180 days. (3 months and extend it for another 3 months while in Brazil).

So technically, you can even obtain the visa before you even get pregnant.

But the interesting thing is that, you will never need a visa ever again after giving birth since you will be given permanent residency.

Hmmm...interesting!
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Toksvik: 9:13am On Aug 19, 2019
I have paid already for medical for wifey and visit for myself..... so should I leave the payment and apply for visit like that for her?
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Toksvik: 9:22am On Aug 19, 2019
And my wife's stomach is obvious already....
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Toksvik: 9:24am On Aug 19, 2019
And it's the guy that collects the form I mentioned the details not the consular...... we haven't submitted the forms yet
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by tolux8899: 2:52pm On Aug 19, 2019
Toksvik:
And it's the guy that collects the form I mentioned the details not the consular...... we haven't submitted the forms yet

Well, you can give it a try but why can't you find someone else to do the submission for you guys?? I think this is only you can have it and please do not include anything like medical . Just apply for visit

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by KAYSEE8686: 5:27pm On Aug 19, 2019
Hello. Pls share the official link for visa application pls. I want to start making plans now. Thanks.

Toksvik:
I was at the Brazilian embassy in vi yesterday, and was told I needed to submit the form and other docs online before bringing it to the embassy..... this is after I had paid 36k for visit while medical is 45k at stanbic ibtc..... the visa officer told me that the visa is kind if hard now..... God will help this our green passport o, it's getting more useless by the day..... because I went with my wife for birthing runs he was saying it will not be approved... I told him to leave that to me.... countries are now getting pissed of how Nigerian misuse opportunity on foreign soil. Going back next week to submit anyway and I know God will favour us... just thought I should share my experience.
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Kokopuff(f): 7:28pm On Aug 19, 2019
Ajokeomo:
Hello,

So I got into Brazil last night and I must say that the people are very friendly especially at the airport in São Paulo. You’ll always find someone who speaks English there and willing to help. I was worried about racism and so far I have experienced none despite the fact that 99 percent of people I have seen and related with are white.

In Rio however, it’s difficult to communicate with people except the hotel attendants. I had a difficult time trying to make purchases at the supermarkets. No one speaks English and the labels and instructions are all written in portugese. I’m not someone who likes to try new food so eating has been somewhat difficult for me also

I’m only in Rio for few days and still trying to decide between Sao Paulo and Florianópolis. Please I’ll need suggestions on safe and affordable areas in São Paulo.

There were Nigerians in the flight to São Paulo, about 4 of them speaking Yoruba. I spoke with one when we landed, asked him a few questions but missed him in the process of finding my next flight (which was difficult because the airport is so big)
hello..plz can u share your details on how you got the Brazil visa..dont know how to send dm.i need ur email or what's app details plz
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Kokopuff(f): 7:49pm On Aug 19, 2019
Plz someone should help me oo, with this Brazil visa..i just got rejected today in America Embassy am SAD n desperate to get a visa ASAP...
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by LewinskyMon: 7:51pm On Aug 19, 2019
Kokopuff:
Plz someone should help me oo, with this Brazil visa..i just got rejected today in America Embassy am SAD n desperate to get a visa ASAP...
click on Adjo10's profile and get all the information from her post

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Mummywifey: 1:02pm On Aug 20, 2019
Adjo10:
I will be more than happy to answer your questions on giving birth in Brazil guys. I do this with a free conscience knowing that it is legal under the Brazilian law.

Cheers

Thanks for coming out to help
Can I message you please ?

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