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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Kevlala: 7:52am On Aug 25, 2019
Jarus:


I dont agree one needs to see the advert or be told the job description before one should know what a job entails. All you need to know is the job title.

A financial controller does generally the same thing almost everywhere. Ditto for a tax manager, an accountant, a marketing officer, a reservoir engineer, a procurement officer etc.

For someone to recommend you for the job, that means you have the qualifications (an engineer wont be recommended for an accounting job). So from the job title, you are expected to know what the job entails.

If you don't know, you should have googled it - eg Job description of a procurement officer. A simple research on the internet will get you that.

I will also be turned off if someone asks me that question at an interview.

For me, I think its neither here nor there. In as much it may seem offensive to ask what the job role is at the point of interview,
Organizations that knows what HR is wont from the beginning act irresponsible. It is usually small org that act anyhow.

Organisations where I have been referred to, collects my CV and immediately send you an employee data form and the job description almost immediately.

When those are sent u are asked to acknowledge if the job role suits u and respond before an interview happens.

Even international job recruiters have gotten to me and this same pattern follows. they have looked at your profile on LinkedIn but they still send u the job description for u to peruse. Before the interview.

All job roles are usually not the same. There could be some aspect u may not be comfortable with. An accountant in a bank may not be familiar with the operations of an upstream org. As well as a risk manager role in a bank may not suit a risk manager role in an insurance coy.

In conclusion, the guy should have used Google to do a thorough research abt the role so as not to have asked the question. But again the organization doesn't have good Hr practice. If the Hr head personnel was in the panel he/she should have apologized for not sending the job description. I doubt there was an Hr person in the panel, cos when there is a vacancy in a dept, the dept usually send the JD to Hr to search for a good fit.

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Nobody: 8:02am On Aug 25, 2019
Gianluigizona:
Too much connect talk. Seems some people are psychologically setting themselves up with an excuse in an event they don't get APL.. smh...

Aboy if you no get APL e mean say you no get APL, nothing more nothing less.

I agree

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Kevlala: 8:09am On Aug 25, 2019
As a follow up, like Benflash said, he also could have asked for it from the referee or even the HR, to go through it before the interview.

Even a well Google researched JD for the role in the specific sector would give u a great insight but may omit an item, the head of the dept where the vacancy exists, hold dearly.

To be candid if there are other candidates who were referred also and did as good as he did, he may be dropped.

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Chibusoil: 8:56am On Aug 25, 2019
As from tomorrow, miracles will happen. Smiles everywhere. Mon - weds

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Nobody: 9:05am On Aug 25, 2019
Chibusoil:
U get alert, u loose APL. Pray not to get.

undecided

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by 4gunners(m): 9:22am On Aug 25, 2019
Chibusoil:
U get alert, u loose APL. Pray not to get.
@ Chibusoil. Remember you said this.

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Nobody: 9:24am On Aug 25, 2019
Jarus:


Unfortunately, if I were on the panel, I would also be upset. However we look at it, it is not a good decision to ask about what the job you are interviewing for, entails.

It's a fundamental error and it will take very strong performance during the course of the main interview (ie your earlier response to technical questions) for the error to be overlooked.
Greetings oga jarus,
I asked a similar question when I was given the opportunity to ask the panel a question at the end of my interview.
My question goes thus: " if I get this job, as a graduate trainee in the IT division, what roles and responsibilities should be expected of me"
The chief panel told me that I would be given some roles albeit under thorough supervision.
Please how do you see this my question and the way I presented.

P. S I'm just being curious to learn and nothing

The interviewer doesn't have to have another candidate to be turned off by that question.

Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by monlawal(m): 9:32am On Aug 25, 2019
Ah baba, we are on the same page รณ.
What you explain below only amplifies my stand.
Jarus:


I dont agree one needs to see the advert or be told the job description before one should know what a job entails. All you need to know is the job title.

A financial controller does generally the same thing almost everywhere. Ditto for a tax manager, an accountant, a marketing officer, a reservoir engineer, a procurement officer etc.

For someone to recommend you for the job, that means you have the qualifications (an engineer wont be recommended for an accounting job). So from the job title, you are expected to know what the job entails.

If you don't know, you should have googled it - eg Job description of a procurement officer. A simple research on the internet will get you that.

I will also be turned off if someone asks me that question at an interview.
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by monlawal(m): 9:33am On Aug 25, 2019
Very true.
BenFlash:


There was no advert but the candidate ought to have asked the referee the position he is being interviewed for, so that he can research the JD. It is called being proactive.

The candidate was like an army personnel directed to gear up and go into battle without him taking time to find out if the war was in Sambisa or Syria. This also brings to bare what questions were asked and how well the Candidate answered considering his 'ill-preparedness.'

'Las las', the question he asked at the end was, for lack of a better expression, "embarrassing". However, if truly it was a non-published vacancy, then a slap on the wrist should be enough considering the surrounding circumstance of the job post. Let them not throw the child away along with the bath water. I am sure of one thing though, it has negatively affected his chances but the real question is by how much? Pray the other panelists weren't so interested in the main panelist's criticisms but in the candidates's overall performance especially for a GT position. It is unforgivable for an EH.
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by femokleen(m): 9:45am On Aug 25, 2019
4gunners:
@ Chibusoil. Remember you said this.

He doesn't need to be reminded, his brain did the thinking, his hands did the typing and his eyes can see the quote.

"Everyone will be paid"

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by OMAALE(m): 9:51am On Aug 25, 2019
Some Still Haven't Been Paid Transport Fare.
//

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by tejiri4(m): 9:54am On Aug 25, 2019
OMAALE:
Some Still Haven't Been Paid Transport Fare.
//

Yesso

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by femokleen(m): 9:56am On Aug 25, 2019
OMAALE:
Some Still Haven't Been Paid Transport Fare.
//
Na turn by turn, wait for your turn!
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by clerics1: 10:27am On Aug 25, 2019
My Connection; 10G ======GOD
cool cool cool


balher:
I know even when APL Released, a New theories will be Devised such as "When is ur interview day, in Which panellists did urs, which course, which state, which connection.... bla bla...".

Lets be Honest, atleast We all have a connections, But why always a friend of mine, I will update u closely as soon as I got info from my connection, and I will reveal my Connection at end when got APL. Remember Let keep praying, God the Superior, who will Order ur connection to work 4 u, Regardless of u connection. Believe me our connection are as follows

5G Presidential ( eg Abba Kyari, Bola Tinubu..)
4G GMD/COOs
3G National Assembly
2G Others


Lets clearly indicate our respective connections as mentioned above, as soon as APL Released.
[i][/i]

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by BMedia: 10:47am On Aug 25, 2019
Kevlala:


For me, I think its neither here nor there. In as much it may seem offensive to ask what the job role is at the point of interview,
Organizations that knows what HR is wont from the beginning act irresponsible. It is usually small org that act anyhow.

Organisations where I have been referred to, collects my CV and immediately send you an employee data form and the job description almost immediately.

When those are sent u are asked to acknowledge if the job role suits u and respond before an interview happens.

Even international job recruiters have gotten to me and this same pattern follows. they have looked at your profile on LinkedIn but they still send u the job description for u to peruse. Before the interview.

All job roles are usually not the same. There could be some aspect u may not be comfortable with. An accountant in a bank may not be familiar with the operations of an upstream org. As well as a risk manager role in a bank may not suit a risk manager role in an insurance coy.

In conclusion, the guy should have used Google to do a thorough research abt the role so as not to have asked the question. But again the organization doesn't have good Hr practice. If the Hr head personnel was in the panel he/she should have apologized for not sending the job description. I doubt there was an Hr person in the panel, cos when there is a vacancy in a dept, the dept usually send the JD to Hr to search for a good fit.

It all boils down to being proactive.

Regardless of the state of any organization's HR function, once you are referred/apply for a role, it borders on common sense to research the organization & job description whether provided or not, so as to tailor interview answers accordingly. For all we know, the omission could be deliberate to assess the problem solving skills of the applicant.

There is hardly any interviewer that wouldn't be impressed if you deliberately structure your answers to demonstrate a solid grasp of the job requirements. Works every time.

Asking that question was a total no-no.

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by BMedia: 10:50am On Aug 25, 2019
OMAALE:
Some Still Haven't Been Paid Transport Fare.
//

We are on this bus together with a good number of those interviewed on the 5th.

Awaiting this week's fireworks as I rely on my fiber-optic connection from heaven cool.

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by scobyy2007: 10:51am On Aug 25, 2019
same...Best CONNECTION

clerics1:
My Connection; 10G ======GOD
cool cool cool


[i][/i]

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Prymestrr(m): 10:54am On Aug 25, 2019
Chibusoil:
As from tomorrow, miracles will happen. Smiles everywhere. Mon - weds
You're a rable rouser and it's an unfortunate trait to have. Change for the better.

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Kevlala: 11:05am On Aug 25, 2019
BMedia:


It all boils down to being proactive.

Regardless of the state of any organization's HR function, once you are referred/apply for a role, it borders on common sense to research the organization & job description whether provided or not, so as to tailor interview answers accordingly. For all we know, the omission could be deliberate to assess the problem solving skills of the applicant.

There is hardly any interviewer that wouldn't be impressed if you deliberately structure your answers to demonstrate a solid grasp of the job requirements. Works every time.

Asking that question was a total no-no.

We all have agreed at the point of the interview it was wrong to ask abt the job role.

Needed to point out if you get a referral for a job, its good practice to ask for the JD, if the coy fails to send to u. It is a standard practice for the coy to furnish u with it. It can't be an intentional omission. The coy doesn't know what is obtainable.

No matter how u research the JD, except its in the space (sector) there could b one or 2 things u may miss out. In terms of systems, kpi etc. And if the interviewer ask on those issues and u r not prepared. Its becomes an issue.

Always ask abt the JD from the coy if it wasn't a publicly advertised role before the interview for better preparation.
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by FLOW101: 11:09am On Aug 25, 2019
Hello Fellow Local Men and Women,


Please help me with the link to the NNPC recruitment portal so I can update my address.


FLOW101:
Okay guys,

My house address has changed. I presume I have to update the recruitment portal with the new address?

Please help me with the link to the portal.

Cheers!
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by baccanista: 11:16am On Aug 25, 2019
Kevlala:


We all have agreed at the point of the interview it was wrong to ask abt the job role.

Needed to point out if you get a referral for a job, its good practice to ask for the JD, if the coy fails to send to u. It is a standard practice for the coy to furnish u with it. It can't be an intentional omission. The coy doesn't know what is obtainable.

No matter how u research the JD, except its in the space (sector) there could b one or 2 things u may miss out. In terms of systems, kpi etc. And if the interviewer ask on those issues and u r not prepared. Its becomes an issue.

Always ask abt the JD from the coy if it wasn't a publicly advertised role before the interview for better preparation.

It is always better to be proactive and independent bros. it is more impressive to d panel than asking the company questions. Jarus and co are right.

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by souljar(m): 11:16am On Aug 25, 2019
Chibusoil:
As from tomorrow, miracles will happen. Smiles everywhere. Mon - weds
...reporting LIVE from the Miracle service, every Sunday at Mountain of Miracles Chapel.

Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by tejiri4(m): 11:24am On Aug 25, 2019
FLOW101:
Hello Fellow Local Men and Women,


Please help me with the link to the NNPC recruitment portal so I can update my address.



https://chill-till-APL-comes.com don't mention

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Kevlala: 11:25am On Aug 25, 2019
baccanista:


It is always better to be proactive and independent oga. it is more impressive to d panel than asking the company questions. Jarus and co are right.

Read and and understand and don't jump on an issue.

Nobody is saying you shudnt be proactive. I never said u shud ask the panel. I said ask for the JD from ur referee or the HR before the interview date. Let it be that they say they can't give u. There is nothing like independent. Nothing stops u from asking before the interview date. But don't ask the panel.

I never said Jarus is wrong. If u Dnt understand get wisdom.
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Kevlala: 11:32am On Aug 25, 2019
baccanista:


It is always better to be proactive and independent bros. it is more impressive to d panel than asking the company questions. Jarus and co are right.

And for ur information u Dnt impress the panel becos u didn't get the JD bfore the interview. The panel don't even know if u have it or not. They expect u to know what u are coming to interview for.

U may just have a person from Hr on the panel, who doesn't know anything abt the role u are being interviewed for. While the rest of the panel members are from the dept u r needed.

U only impress the panel out of the questions they ask. Not because u didn't see JD before the interview.
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by baccanista: 11:35am On Aug 25, 2019
The point flew right over your head.

It is better and more professional to independently research the requirements of a job and the organization, than to be bugging the company for information.

That surely cannot be too complex for you to process.

Kevlala:


Read and and understand and don't jump on an issue.

Nobody is saying you shudnt be proactive. I never said u shud ask the panel. I said ask for the JD from ur referee or the HR before the interview date. Let it be that they say they can't give u. There is nothing like independent. Nothing stops u from asking before the interview date. But don't ask the panel.

I never said Jarus is wrong. If u Dnt understand get wisdom.

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by talk2dace(m): 11:52am On Aug 25, 2019
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tejiri4:


you said it all I greet u
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Kevlala: 11:55am On Aug 25, 2019
baccanista:
The point flew right over your head.

It is better and more professional to independently research the requirements of a job and the organization, than to be bugging the company for information.

That surely cannot be too complex for you to process.


I see where u r coming from.

Independently researching about a company is a given. It is something u should do as well as job description. It is makes so much sense to do.

For a GT role, just researching the organization and job role may be sufficient, but as u go higher in ur career, get some boldness and ask for a JD before the interview date. U r not bugging the coy. Its ur right to know what entails in the role u are being interviewed for.

I have over 10years experience and I have never gone to a referral job interview before seeing the JD. 99% times the coys have sent it to me while the 1% time I have asked and it was sent immediately.

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Kevlala: 12:01pm On Aug 25, 2019
Most times we just argue when we Dnt know the other persons perspective. I see ur perspective clearly.

I have learn not to argue, but to first understand the other persons perspective before given ur submission.

@baccanista ur points are what everybody should know.

My point is there is no harm in asking for the JD before the interview even after u have done all those research. U are not impressing any panel because u have done so before the interview.
Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by Teejay1511(m): 12:05pm On Aug 25, 2019
Gianluigizona:
Too much connect talk. Seems some people are psychologically setting themselves up with an excuse in an event they don't get APL.. smh...

Aboy if you no get APL e mean say you no get APL, nothing more nothing less.
Lol true, Cognitive dissonance.

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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by poeticjustice(m): 12:08pm On Aug 25, 2019
Na wa o!

Oga will you die if you admit that proactiveness would have given that applicant an edge?

What's all these whataboutism?

What's the essence of education, if we cannot cede our position when confronted with a superior line of thought?

Besides, these are just means of extending this thread!

Happy Sunday to you all.




Kevlala:
Most times we just argue when we Dnt know the other persons perspective. I see ur perspective clearly.

I have learn not to argue, but to first understand the other persons perspective before given ur submission.

@baccanista ur points are what everybody should know.

My point is there is no harm in asking for the JD before the interview even after u have done all those research. U are not impressing any panel because u have done so before the interview.



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Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by baccanista: 12:08pm On Aug 25, 2019
Kevlala:

Independently researching about a company is a given. It is something u should do as well as job description.

Kevlala:


There is nothing like independent.
.

Lol.

You are now contradicting yourself in a desperate attempt to make a point. Of course showing pro-activeness, independence & good knowledge of the job requirements will impress any panel. Not bugging the company for information you can independently research and find.

Good luck with your assumptions.

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