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| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Cheers01: 3:28pm On May 29, 2019 |
Empiree: So Muslims are the ones that drink beer in Kano? You are lacking intellectually.... |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Empiree: 4:24pm On May 29, 2019 |
Cheers01:Your point exactly is.....? Are you saying there are no Muslim drinkers?. What if this destruction of beer bottles have nothing to do with religion but the state did it for precaution purposes?. Why did you have to attach Islam and Muslims with this when the article itself said nothing about this?. |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Cheers01: 4:33pm On May 29, 2019 |
Empiree: Such ridiculous arguments! Hisbah police is now secular? The hisbah police destroy beer for secular reasons. Please, what non religious reasons could they have had to destroy good beer? Furthermore, your questions are stupid. There is a Christian population in Kano, if you don't know. Unless you want to argue that the majority of drinkers in Kano are Muslims.... It is sad that you would disgrace the ummah and lie that your fellow Muslims in Kano are drinkers just to win an argument. Albaqir, sissie, Jarus. This your guy, empiree, e get sense so? 1 Like |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Empiree: 5:01pm On May 29, 2019 |
Cheers01:Again, the article said nothing about religion. What's your problem?. You are Atheist I supposed but here you are covered about Christians to prove your point. Few years ago similar thing happened. They destroyed beer in muslim region only. They did not bother with Christians. The article was posted here that time. But this article you screenshot said nothing about religion. Your are trying so hard to portray Muslims as oppressor. I repeat, what if they destroyed beer for non religious reason?. This article doesn't give details but you are trying to smuggle Muslims into it. And drinking beer, who da help? |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Cheers01: 5:17pm On May 29, 2019 |
Empiree: I've never seen someone act so silly in order to win an argument.  1 Like |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Empiree: 5:23pm On May 29, 2019 |
Cheers01:you have history of anti Islam rhetoric. Nothing new
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| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Cheers01: 6:11pm On May 29, 2019 |
Empiree: I am not the one lying that Kano muslims drink alcohol. That is you. I disagree with certain tenets of Islam. That does not mean that I am anti-islam |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Empiree: 6:19pm On May 29, 2019 |
Cheers01:no no man. You don't believe in tenets of Islam... period. If you say you disagree with "certain" tenets of Islam, we have only 5 of them. You used the word "certain" to suggest that you belief in some. Here they are. Which do you believe and which one you don't? * Tawheed (God is One) * 5 daily prayers * Zakat (annual aimgiving) * Ramadan (29/30 days of fasting) * Hajj (pilgrimage to Mecca) Pick yours from above. |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Cheers01: 7:38pm On May 29, 2019 |
Empiree: Zakat. I believe in charity. I also stopped drinking years back |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Empiree: 8:05pm On May 29, 2019 |
Cheers01:so the rest are none of your business, ehnn?. Fulfilling one obligation and abandoning the rest is disbelieve. Anyways, zakat is not regular charity but annual one. Charity in Islam is different. Charity is sadaqa. Obligatory Zakat are of two types: * That which is paid at Ramadan * That which is due on your money anytime per yr. Both are a must This is 2 & half % of your wealth Sadaqa is voluntary with no minimum and no limit to amount you spend. |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Cheers01: 8:21pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Empiree:. Interesting |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by true2god: 6:57am On Aug 23, 2019 |
The best muslim preacher at it again, sparking racial tension in malaysia after he was declared a persona non grata in his home country India. Watch below sahih Zakir Naik. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWs5O2yJKGI |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Empiree: 10:56am On Aug 23, 2019 |
true2god:See this brother quick to post negative news about this great man, Zakir Naik. He cleared the misconceptions and apologize in this video below https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65CqCb9B3vs |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by true2god: 11:22am On Aug 23, 2019 |
Empiree:The so-called 'great man' who said, in malaysia, that Malaysian hindus can never loyal to the Malaysian authorities but to the Indian authorities. Ironically, this man is an Indian causing division in a country that have him asylum; working against his own country. Anyway he is a Muslim who is loyal only to the saudis and the ummah. |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Empiree: 11:43am On Aug 23, 2019 |
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| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by true2god: 12:15pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
watch the video again at 1 minutes 25 second. This is what the Malaysian PM who granted him asylum said: Now he is stirring up racial feelings. Who is right, the Malaysian prime minister or the internet trolls? Please note, your starboy, Zakir Naik, wants the Malaysians to start giving the ethnic Indians and the ethnic Chinese the Pakistani treatment of the Hindu and the christian minority. The guy is simply evil and should be deported before he causes a civil war in peaceful Malaysia. I have even forgotten that he is a radical Muslim . |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by true2god: 4:07pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Empiree: 6:06pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
true2god:No one is above error. I am yet to watch full speech but I did watch short clip a while back where he gave lecture on Chinese govt's treatments of Uighur muslims and persecution of Kashmir by Indian govt, where he alleged that the most persecuted muslims are chinese muslims and he gave his reason. This may be one of reasons that influenced his alleged hate speech. I can sense this on his eyes. I have tremendous respect for Malaysian Dr Mahathir. and i am not gonna fault his position on Dr. Zakir Naik. However, whether Dr. Zakir Naik was wrong or right on the alleged racial tension, time will tell how Nigerians will react to Chinese taking over Nigeria spaces. We already seeing chinese treating you like trash in your country. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3f4cotrKnQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCk-xhShgEw |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Cheers01: 9:14pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
true2god: You are really doing some good work. This is the first time I have seen Empiree concede to a superior argument. The evidence was too clear. Empiree could not defend his idol. Zakir Naik messed up. |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by true2god: 12:08pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
Empiree:Zakir Naik is an intelligent man and he fully knew what he was doing. This is never a case of an error; Zakir Naik didn't commit any error but a clear case of political incitement of the Malay locals against the Chinese and the Indian minority. Zakir Naik was literally asking the Malays to rise against the Chinese and Indians in Malaysia; you don't have to be very intelligent to grasp this simple logic. As for the muslim minority in china, I remembered when Zakir Naik was asked why saudi arabia never allowed even a singe church in saudi arabia. His response was that islam is true and Christianity is false and he supported that saudi policy. This is problematic for someone who is against the treatment of local chinese muslims while at the same time endorsed saudi persecution of religious minorities, apostates and atheist. Empiree:On this issue, and on so many issues, Zakir Naik was, and is wrong. You, as an politcal asylum seeker, cannot go to another country and be making a racially insensitive remark, especially by someone like Zakir Naik who has millions of fans and followers worldwide. And as a typical deflector you are, you brougt up the chinese topic on Nigeria's political space. This is complete nonsense. Almost all the Chinese in Nigeria are foreign investors and construction workers. I have many friends with work in Huawei and airtel (both technically managed by the Chinese). The Chinese are the ones constructing your railway from Badagry to CMS (Lagos). I really don't know how far you can go to defend Islam and their apologists. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by true2god: 12:25pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
Cheers01:The guy Empire is pathetic and almost beyond redemption. How can one look away from Muslims' persecution of others and cry over muslims being persecuted; this is ridiculous. When one compares India with Pakistan, India is treating her muslim minority 1000times than Pakistan treating her Hindu or christian minority. We have thousands of muslims in Indian crikets teams, Bollywood movies and in politics. We have almost zero hindu politician in pakistan and no hindu cricket player in pakistani national team. In 1946 the muslims in India said they cannot exist together in an independent india where hindus are the majority hence a separate country was created for Muslims out of India called PAKISTAN (meaning pure land because the muslims consider the hindus as impure). The muslims in india are given free hands to live a normal live while the hindus are exterminated in pakistan. Part of the free hand the hindus gave india muslims gave birth to Zakir Naik who grew up, in India, and started bashing the hindu-majority India 24/7. You can imagine a christian in pakistan bashing the muslims, head will rolls and blood will flow. Let us come down to Nigeria. The Igbos are calling for an Independet state of Biafra. Let assume that the Igbos are granted Biafra. The Yorubas do not travel to Igbo land but the Igbos will come to Lagos, after being granted Biafra, to bash and insult Yoruba people. What do you think the Yoruba people will do, keep quiet and become 'mumu'? No. They will react. This is exactly what the Hindus are doing right now after over 70 years of tolerance. Muslims should oppressing other people so that no one will have any need to oppress muslims. 1 Like |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Empiree: 12:31pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
true2god:I'm I surprised?. See how he's defending Hindus as if he believe in them. Go and read article 370 of India constitution and then return here with your trash |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by najib632(m): 1:05pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
true2god:true2devil, your hypocrisy will not allow you to see. You're one of the 6 daftest people i have ever encountered, but that does not apply to Empiree. You're just a racist and blind fault finder. 1 Like |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by true2god: 1:11pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
Empiree:Hindus, muslims, christians, Jews, shintos, Bhudist,etc are all human being irrespective of their religion. The issue is that among all the religions, Islam is the most oppressive one and you know it. I am not a Hindu and never will I but they have right to exist just as all other people has the right to. Can you explain 'article 370' in summary? |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by true2god: 1:12pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
najib632:People reading our post will laugh at your arrogance in ignorance. |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by najib632(m): 3:08pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
true2god:This statement is the definition of boastful(arrogantly) ignorance, when I say that you're a daft its not an insult it is a fact. |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by true2god: 3:39pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
najib632:Let's get your contribution and no insults.What do you have to say? |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Cheers01: 4:00pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
najib632: Are you okay at all? You sound radicalised. Please address the issue of the thread. What do you have to say about Muslim oppression of other religions? For example, the oppression of Hindus and Christian's in Pakistan? Oppression of Christians and atheists in Saudi? 1 Like |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Empiree: 4:24pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
true2god:see this one accused Islam of being "the most". Yet the religion is close to 2 billion followers. Again, I'm not surprised. Qur'an says 5:85 Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are Al-Mushrikun , Hadith Thawdan (RAT) narrated "Allah’s Messenger, peace and blessings be upon him, said, ‘Imminently, there will come a time when the nations gather against you, just as people gather around a feast.’ A man said, ‘Will it be because we are few at that time, O Allah’s Messenger?’ He responded, ‘No, you will be numerous in those times, but you will be as useless as the scum of the sea, and Allah will remove the fear that your enemies used to posses from you from their chests, and He will place al-Wahn in your hearts’, it was said, ‘What is al-Wahn?’, he responded, ‘Love of life, and hatred of death.’” [Ahmad, Abu Dawud] So current situation of muslims is our predicament. We submit to Allah's Decree. When time comes He will take this hardship away. You can say anything you want it doesn't bother me. I can't imagine you of all people would say Islam is there most intolerance religion...hunn. but against I'm not surprised considering your recent attacks on Islam and muslims. As for the article of India, a good student does research. So that's your homework |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by Empiree: 5:56pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by true2god: 10:39am On Aug 25, 2019 |
Empiree:I have watched this video before. Being brilliant does not mean one cannot be evil. Hitler and Stalin were also very brilliant and the world recorded them as the most ruthless dictators of the 20th century. Zakir Naik was here defending himself from all the allegation brought against him; he was not on the law court. He should rather go back to his home country, India, and defend himself if he is not a coward. Mohammed was also prosecuted in India (mecca) and he ran to Malaysia (Medina) where he formed a large army and came back to reconquer India (Mecca). Nothing is stoppin Zakir Naik from forming a large army in Malaysia to come back and conquer India and impose Islam on all of them. |
| Re: While Being Oppressed, We Have Become Oppressors- Maajid Nawaz by true2god: 11:46am On Aug 25, 2019 |
Empiree:See an opinion on your 'intelligent man'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBxLk5FhhjE |
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