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Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Collins4u1(m): 10:37pm On Aug 25, 2019
Ka mkpụrụ obi unu zuru ike na Ndokwa..

grin grin
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Cletus77(m): 10:48pm On Aug 25, 2019
otuekong1:
Oga the annangs in akwa ibom bear an Igbo like but tHat doesn't make the igbo
Which annang? Is like ya brain is paining u
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Anambralstson: 11:00pm On Aug 25, 2019
See how they attacked the mumu when he shared the link to Ika forum grin grin

Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Anambralstson: 11:06pm On Aug 25, 2019
grin

Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by superlightning: 11:41pm On Aug 25, 2019
Facebook nonsense.
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by leofab(f): 12:49am On Aug 26, 2019
aniomafirstson:
lol funny post
Where did you crawl out from?

you possibly don't know shit about Ndokwa so go back to the shithole you crawled out from
ekpamu di ka iyu.. onye ela... keep denying your root.:
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by aniomafirstson: 1:01am On Aug 26, 2019
leofab:
ekpamu di ka iyu.. onye ela... keep denying your root.:
I know my root and i am not confused unlike you who is answering an Igbo name but yet claiming Bini

Bini people do not even see us as part of them
same people that killed us during the civil war

Why not go back to your root which is Bini and start answering your Bini name
Anu ugboko
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Bridget95(f): 1:59am On Aug 26, 2019
MetaPhysical:
When did you find out your money counts is not same as Ibos? That fbi list don scare una, ehhn? Now you are denying your people in Arochuku. grin grin
what about the Saudi Arabia drug dealers list that is 100% Yoruba or the companies operating in Yoruba land crying of being duped to bankruptcy by their Yoruba employees.?
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Nigerfine2: 3:39am On Aug 26, 2019
SirVintageCock:
The only place we see this naira ise, naira abuo or whatever is in Igbo literature. Yet to see anybody using it in commerce or on daily bases. So if that's the only ground for denying Igbo identity then wait for the Iziis, Ezaas, Idemilis, onichas, orumbas, ngwa, anams, nsukkas, owerres, etc to write theirs and you will know that ukwuani/ndokwa is the closes to central Igbo.
I salute your thought pattern
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Susu888(m): 4:15am On Aug 26, 2019
grin igbos are being bullied much of lately....
abeg let them breathe small haba! undecided

To the topic at hand : if their language, food, dressings and names are igbo.... [/b]my friend they r igbos period![b]

Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by ceeceeuwa: 5:33am On Aug 26, 2019
Igbos are from Ndokwa
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Nobody: 5:41am On Aug 26, 2019
Cletus77:
Which annang? Is like ya brain is paining u
Your mumulity no get cure
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by baby124: 5:50am On Aug 26, 2019
Lots of Yoruba and Benin groups migrated to Delta. So, they may be right. Their proximity to a major group (Igbo) and, isolation from their origin means their culture will be overwhelmed by this new major group (Igbo) that they would have come in contact with.

Just like the Olukumi’s. Some names in Delta are suspiciously Yoruba like Onicha-Olona and Onicha-Ugbo. These two names mean people of the God’s of Olona (progressive) and Ugbo(forest). Onicha is obviously Orisha.
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Ikechunna: 6:50am On Aug 26, 2019
baby124:
Lots of Yoruba and Benin groups migrated to Delta. So, they may be right. Their proximity to a major group (Igbo) and, isolation from their origin means their culture will be overwhelmed by this new major group (Igbo) that they would have come in contact with.

Just like the Olukumi’s. Some names in Delta are suspiciously Yoruba like Onicha-Olona and Onicha-Ugbo. These two names mean people of the God’s of Olona (progressive) and Ugbo(forest). Onicha is obviously Orisha.
Onicha has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Yoruba. Absolutely not a Goddamn thing!!!!! For one Onicha-Olona and Onicha-Ugbo do not even describe their founders as Yoruba for one thing. The word Onicha is an igbo terms which are used by several different igbo communities including SE Igbos. I don't how many fucking times we have to let you Yorubas know there's nothing Yoruba in Anioma. Ever since the migration pattern of Olukumi was reported, Afonjas have continuously and shamelessly trying to pathetically trying to attach yourselves to Anioma. Even the Olukumi do not even see themselves as Yoruba despite their migration pattern. I don't know how many times we have to say this shit before it hits una in your heads. There's NOTHING Yoruba in our community. Yoruba and Anioma has ZERO affiliation. It's getting highly highly HIGHLY Pathetic with you lots. Wtf?
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Nobody: 8:05am On Aug 26, 2019
Cletus77:
Which annang? Is like ya brain is paining u
Your mumulity is alarming, grow up
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by baby124: 11:14am On Aug 26, 2019
Ikechunna:
Onicha has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Yoruba. Absolutely not a Goddamn thing!!!!! For one Onicha-Olona and Onicha-Ugbo do not even describe their founders as Yoruba for one thing. The word Onicha is an igbo terms which are used by several different igbo communities including SE Igbos. I don't how many fucking times we have to let you Yorubas know there's nothing Yoruba in Anioma. Ever since the migration pattern of Olukumi was reported, Afonjas have continuously and shamelessly trying to pathetically trying to attach yourselves to Anioma. Even the Olukumi do not even see themselves as Yoruba despite their migration pattern. I don't know how many times we have to say this shit before it hits una in your heads. There's NOTHING Yoruba in our community. Yoruba and Anioma has ZERO affiliation. It's getting highly highly HIGHLY Pathetic with you lots. Wtf?
What does Onicha or Onitsha mean in Igbo? You know Olona and Ugbo are Yoruba words even used in Yoruba today and Olona can mean progressive or journey/road/adventurer. Ugbo is all over Yorubaland. Even one of the Olukumi settlement is called Ugbodu which is forest in some Yoruba dialects. Onicha is a bastardization if Orisha. It’s very obvious to people who understand languages. Those two towns have straight up Yoruba names.

Olukumi never denied their origin and they do not claim to be Igbo. Tomorrow if they come and rightly say they are not, you will take up offense and start fighting. That you tribe has influence on others does not make them your tribe.
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by MasterofNL: 11:32am On Aug 26, 2019
Pazienza
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Cletus77(m): 11:37am On Aug 26, 2019
otuekong1:
Your mumulity is alarming, grow up
otuekong doesn't make u annang bro..hide ya face
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by NNEWIsuper: 11:51am On Aug 26, 2019
MelesZenawi:
We are not Igbos
I had always known that you were not Igbo, I'm happy you've come out to confirm that, but just leave out Igbo mainland undecided undecided
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by aniomafirstson: 12:30pm On Aug 26, 2019
Anambralstson:
See how they attacked the mumu when he shared the link to Ika forum grin grin
Same way he was disgraced in our Ndokwa forum grin

Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by pazienza(m): 1:35pm On Aug 26, 2019
Well, I was on that facebook page when it was first posted.
But decided to hold my peace.
I had decided that what will be will be. This endless bickering of Igbo denial is no longer worth my time.
I only debate on them when I feel like.
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Ikechunna:
baby124:
What does Onicha or Onitsha mean in Igbo? You know Olona and Ugbo are Yoruba words even used in Yoruba today and Olona can mean progressive or journey/road/adventurer. Ugbo is all over Yorubaland. Even one of the Olukumi settlement is called Ugbodu which is forest in some Yoruba dialects. Onicha is a bastardization if Orisha. It’s very obvious to people who understand languages. Those two towns have straight up Yoruba names.

Olukumi never denied their origin and they do not claim to be Igbo. Tomorrow if they come and rightly say they are not, you will take up offense and start fighting. That you tribe has influence on others does not make them your tribe.
For one, I'm Anioma. For two, clearly you ignorant of what you speak of cause Onicha-Olona and Onicha-Ugbo are not Olukumi nor migrated from Yorubas. For three, are you trying to imply SE Igbos are yoruba descendants too cause there's SEVERAL SE igbo communities in all 5 states with the term Onicha such as Onicha-ugboma, Onicha-Agu, Onicha-Ngwa, Onicha LGA, the city Onitsha, etc. Onicha means Forest in Igbo. You're highly ignorant!!!!!! Secondly, where did I say Olukumi deny their migration patterns. Read and comprehend what you read!! I said they do not see themselves as Yoruba and I know this for a fact. If you doubt me, I know three people from Ugbodu. Two of them are close friends of mine. Likewise, I know a girl from Ubulubu as well. I can ask all four directly and post their replies on here. Just say go ahead

Let me say this in a term you'll get
Anioma and Yoruba have ZERO affiliation!!!!!
Us and you people have Nothing in common!!! Get that through una thick heads and stop being so pathetic!!!!
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Ikechunna: 2:09pm On Aug 26, 2019
pazienza:
Well, I was on that facebook page when it was first posted.
But decided to hold my peace.
I had decided that what will be will be. This endless bickering of Igbo denial is no longer worth my time.
I only debate on them when I feel like.
Recall I told you igbo denials in our community predominately seek attention and your back and forth with them does nothing more but feed that attention seeking. The best way to deal with Igbo deniers and I'm saying this to all SE Igbos is mockery or flat out ignoring them. I'm glad you're not engaging them as usual. Just ignore them, don't waste your time debating them because you're pretty much feeding their non existent ego.
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by baby124: 2:17pm On Aug 26, 2019
Ikechunna:
For one, I'm Anioma. For two, clearly you ignorant of what you speak of cause Onicha-Olona and Onicha-Ugbo are not Olukumi nor migrated from Yorubas. For three, are you trying to imply SE Igbos are yoruba descendants too cause there's SEVERAL SE igbo communities in all 5 states with the term Onicha such as Onicha-ugboma, Onicha-Agu, Onicha-Ngwa, Onicha LGA, the city Onitsha, etc. Onicha means Forest in Igbo. You're highly ignorant!!!!!! Secondly, where did I say Olukumi deny their migration patterns. Read and comprehend what you read!! I said they do not see themselves as Yoruba and I know this for a fact. If you doubt me, I know three people from Ugbodu. Two of them are close friends of mine. Likewise, I know a girl from Ubulubu as well. I can ask all four directly and post their replies on here. Just say go ahead

Let me say this in a term you'll get
Anioma and Yoruba have ZERO affiliation!!!!!
Us and you people have Nothing in common!!! Get that through una thick heads and stop being so pathetic!!!!
You say Olukumi don’t deny their origin and then say they have nothing in common. You try to twist words by saying migration pattern instead of origin. Olukumi are Yoruba’s from the Odiani clan in Delta state. They are not Igbo. Ndokwa are also saying they are not Igbo, why are you forcing Igbo on them? Do you know their origin, sorry, migration pattern better than them?. You are not even from Olukumi but you are trying to speak for them with authority.
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by MetaPhysical: 2:29pm On Aug 26, 2019
baby124:
What does Onicha or Onitsha mean in Igbo? You know Olona and Ugbo are Yoruba words even used in Yoruba today and Olona can mean progressive or journey/road/adventurer. Ugbo is all over Yorubaland. Even one of the Olukumi settlement is called Ugbodu which is forest in some Yoruba dialects. Onicha is a bastardization if Orisha. It’s very obvious to people who understand languages. Those two towns have straight up Yoruba names.

Olukumi never denied their origin and they do not claim to be Igbo. Tomorrow if they come and rightly say they are not, you will take up offense and start fighting. That you tribe has influence on others does not make them your tribe.
Thank you for this post, very apt!

Onitsha had an indigeneous name but is lost to history. The indigeneous people were Ibos and Ibo is the language they spoke. They had no king.

After Oranmiyan had departed Bini the court language in Bini was Yoruba and it continued to be the practice for centuries. Bini had always been a land of disputes and rebellion and chiefs were always in constant confrontation and departing....some banished.

When a chief or sets of chiefs leave they never enter West into Yorubaland. That would put them in harm's way since the court they are running from is kin and kith of courts in West...so they would always head East and away from Bini. This was the genesis of most of these thrones East of Bini towards the river.

In its past...and in the age of the pioneers, Yoruba was a supremacist civilization. It believed in ruling and would not succumb to be ruled. This knowledge is the foundation of 1st and 2nd dynasty of rulers in Bini....and those who left to go form their own separate domains carried that authority with them and imposed on the indigeneous natives they met on the land.

All those kingdoms between Bini and all way to Onitsha that recognize Bini as their homeland are not the original landwoners in their various kingdoms. They are the rulers because they practiced the supreme imperial authority installed by Ile Ife to all Yorubaland and outward to Bini....and then from Bini, like I said, additional spread Eastward to Onitsha.

This spread occurred back when Yoruba was the lingua franca among all crown heads and their courts. Over the centuries, and particularly in the rearrangement put in place by colonists, these courts have largely departed from old traditions and are modernised. Traces of Yoruba language still exist in Bini courts and beyond.

Onitsha
Olona
Ugbo
Idu

......while we will never contest the land with Ibo, they must be reminded their monarch is a product of Yoruba supremacy and civilization in that domain.
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Donald1987(m): 2:55pm On Aug 26, 2019
As an Agbor man I will never deny my place . ika language is dialect in igbo. any one who does not accept that should relocate to Edo state or the west where u migrated from
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by tsdarkside(m): 3:06pm On Aug 26, 2019
Donald1987:
As an Agbor man I will never deny my place . ika language is dialect in igbo. any one who does not accept that should relocate to Edo state or the west where u migrated from
this matter will not be that easy as ipob thinks....

at the end we will fight over land....it always ends that way....

its better you people let things as they are....

even gettin were we are today was already enough headaches....

if you dont think so,then push so far till the matter reach about who and who land belongs to and see what will happen....dont mess with people when it comes to land....
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Nobody: 3:36pm On Aug 26, 2019
MetaPhysical:
Thank you for this post, very apt!

Onitsha had an indigeneous name but is lost to history. The indigeneous people were Ibos and Ibo is the language they spoke. They had no king.

After Oranmiyan had departed Bini the court language in Bini was Yoruba and it continued to be the practice for centuries. Bini had always been a land of disputes and rebellion and chiefs were always in constant confrontation and departing....some banished.

When a chief or sets of chiefs leave they never enter West into Yorubaland. That would put them in harm's way since the court they are running from is kin and kith of courts in West...so they would always head East and away from Bini. This was the genesis of most of these thrones East of Bini towards the river.

In its past...and in the age of the pioneers, Yoruba was a supremacist civilization. It believed in ruling and would not succumb to be ruled. This knowledge is the foundation of 1st and 2nd dynasty of rulers in Bini....and those who left to go form their own separate domains carried that authority with them and imposed on the indigeneous natives they met on the land.

All those kingdoms between Bini and all way to Onitsha that recognize Bini as their homeland are not the original landwoners in their various kingdoms. They are the rulers because they practiced the supreme imperial authority installed by Ile Ife to all Yorubaland and outward to Bini....and then from Bini, like I said, additional spread Eastward to Onitsha.

This spread occurred back when Yoruba was the lingua franca among all crown heads and their courts. Over the centuries, and particularly in the rearrangement put in place by colonists, these courts have largely departed from old traditions and are modernised. Traces of Yoruba language still exist in Bini courts and beyond.

Onitsha
Olona
Ugbo
Idu

......while we will never contest the land with Ibo, they must be reminded their monarch is a product of Yoruba supremacy and civilization in that domain.
So in essence You saying Edos are Yoruba people right from Ife.


I have always told people that there are no difference in all aspects between Edo and Yorubas. They are one and same people.
cc

Deadlytruth.
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by baby124: 5:50pm On Aug 26, 2019
MetaPhysical:
Thank you for this post, very apt!

Onitsha had an indigeneous name but is lost to history. The indigeneous people were Ibos and Ibo is the language they spoke. They had no king.

After Oranmiyan had departed Bini the court language in Bini was Yoruba and it continued to be the practice for centuries. Bini had always been a land of disputes and rebellion and chiefs were always in constant confrontation and departing....some banished.

When a chief or sets of chiefs leave they never enter West into Yorubaland. That would put them in harm's way since the court they are running from is kin and kith of courts in West...so they would always head East and away from Bini. This was the genesis of most of these thrones East of Bini towards the river.

In its past...and in the age of the pioneers, Yoruba was a supremacist civilization. It believed in ruling and would not succumb to be ruled. This knowledge is the foundation of 1st and 2nd dynasty of rulers in Bini....and those who left to go form their own separate domains carried that authority with them and imposed on the indigeneous natives they met on the land.

All those kingdoms between Bini and all way to Onitsha that recognize Bini as their homeland are not the original landwoners in their various kingdoms. They are the rulers because they practiced the supreme imperial authority installed by Ile Ife to all Yorubaland and outward to Bini....and then from Bini, like I said, additional spread Eastward to Onitsha.

This spread occurred back when Yoruba was the lingua franca among all crown heads and their courts. Over the centuries, and particularly in the rearrangement put in place by colonists, these courts have largely departed from old traditions and are modernised. Traces of Yoruba language still exist in Bini courts and beyond.

Onitsha
Olona
Ugbo
Idu

......while we will never contest the land with Ibo, they must be reminded their monarch is a product of Yoruba supremacy and civilization in that domain.
Not entirely true. Bini migrated and Yoruba migrated too. The Olukumi were there from Owo before the Bini migration. Both groups spread out because of conflict, struggle for resources and dissatisfaction. They were far removed from their origins and in smaller numbers than the Igbo. So when Igbo’s started also seeking resources because of population and conflict, these people were easily over run by the Igbo culture. People like Olukumi has 2 waves of influence on their culture. Bini and Igbo. Igbo coming later than Bini.
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by nwadiuko1(m): 6:12pm On Aug 26, 2019
I don't really care
Re: Igbos Are Of No Use To Us, We Are Not Igbos - Ndokwa Nation by Eastlink(m): 6:42pm On Aug 26, 2019
baby124:
You say Olukumi don’t deny their origin and then say they have nothing in common. You try to twist words by saying migration pattern instead of origin. Olukumi are Yoruba’s from the Odiani clan in Delta state. They are not Igbo. Ndokwa are also saying they are not Igbo, why are you forcing Igbo on them? Do you know their origin, sorry, migration pattern better than them?. You are not even from Olukumi but you are trying to speak for them with authority.
The Odiani clan are not Yoruba's put that into your thick skull. They never were Yoruba's, had no cultural links with you people and despise that Yoruba label. They have nothing in common with you lots, nothing whatsoever that you're obsessed with. You can't even dare go to the Odiani clan to tell them the nonsense you're spilling here or else you lose your life. Stop getting obsessed with this people. Rather turn your focus to the Owo people in Ondo who are Bini's in origin yet the Edo don't drag them or the Shaki people with Nupe origin yet the Nupes don't drag them.
Get the Bleep off Igbo obsession.
There are much things you Yoruba supremacist should be worried about and not the Odiani people who don't care if you exist and may do you harm if you take this nonsense to their face.
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