I had a friend who came from the UK with his wife to start a church in Lagos.

He had been in Lagos trying to start the church, but all his efforts didn't yield any result for years.


He lost almost all in the process of trying to start the church yet it availed nothing.


His wife also had fibroid and was barren.

He told me to join him in prayers, to kick-start the church and also for direction.

We started praying and as we were praying we called down hailstones of fire upon every kingdom hindering the church.

michaelkaroh:
I cannot open a thread now as I am underprepared to furnish it with verifiable information, scriptural or otherwise.

This is more the reason you should stop making comments about the subject on in here and/or elsewhere for that matter. Respect yourself that way, and also so that you dont open or hold up yourself to ridicule

We commanded every kingdom of darkness hindering the kick-start of the church to be closed down by fire.

After the prayers the pastor opened his eyes and smiled at me, I asked him why and he said, he saw hailstones of fire falling from heaven and burning a particular place.

He said as the burning was going on people there were running for their life.

I came under unction and told him, when the church will start and the location of the church.

MuttleyLaff:
This is more the reason you should stop making comments about the subject on in here and/or elsewhere for that matter. Respect yourself that way, and also so that you dont open or hold up yourself to ridicule

Got it.

The church started at the exact time and the exact place, they even moved to a bigger place after some few months.

The pastor then brought his wife to me after seeing what God did.

I made her realise she had a spiritual husband and this caused her fibroid and barrenness.

After prayers she was delivered, I told her she was going to have a boy.

The pastor came to me after the prayers and told me that he saw the fibroid melting.

To God be the glory , she has a bouncing baby boy now after 6 years of barrenness.

There are so many other ways whereby witchcraft agents attack and hinder people, but I think the information I've given is enough to overcome any witchcraft attack upon ones life.


A woman once came to me with her son and was complaining of how she used to have serious witchcraft attacks.

As I began praying I noticed her son was an agent of darkness.

I stopped praying for the woman and focused on the son.

By the grace of God the boy was delivered and the witchcraft coven was burnt down to the ground by the fire of God.


The thread is still opened to questions and answers.

God bless

EnthronedbyGod:
Chebum is an evil garment used to transfer someone's spirit from one place to another , so as to tie them down at a place quite far from the location of their physical bodies.

Sometimes they tie them down in a bottle and sometimes in a cage or spiritual prison.

Some people never pass a particular level in life, no matter how much they try, because they have been tied down.

One might be in a prison and make a little progress without knowing he's in a prison, people who are destined to be billionaires end up as millionaires, celebrating their achievement not knowing that they are below God's purpose for them.

Some who are meant to be professors end up as MSC holders because they are tied down.

Please I would love to hear more about this spiritual prison. i think it is personal to me and take it so.

EnthronedbyGod:
There are so many other ways whereby witchcraft agents attack and hinder people, but I think the information I've given is enough to overcome any witchcraft attack upon ones life.


A woman once came to me with her son and was complaining of how she used to have serious witchcraft attacks.

As I began praying I noticed her son was an agent of darkness.

I stopped praying for the woman and focused on the son.

By the grace of God the boy was delivered and the witchcraft coven was burnt down to the ground by the fire of God.


The thread is still opened to questions and answers.

God bless

Goodmorning enthronedbyGod,i have been following this thread and waiting for u to hit the nail on the head.i have been experiencing this cobweb attacks too for a loxg time.i have gone for deliverance sessions many times but to no avail.The best they tell me is that it is from my parents which is true but nothing more(i know it might sound absurd when i concur

MIKESTUNNA:
Goodmorning enthronedbyGod,i have been following this thread and waiting for u to hit the nail on the head.i have been experiencing this cobweb attacks too for a loxg time.i have gone for deliverance sessions many times but to no avail.The best they tell me is that it is from my parents which is true but nothing more(i know it might sound absurd when i concur

pls i need to speak with you in private.my email add is satanhaslost@yahoo.com.
thank u.

Just see people getting solutions to their problems or even acknowledging their challenges here.

But one old troll in his late 40s to 50s probably battling with midlife crises is just making a nuisance of himself here, alongside other detractors...

I can't help but ask, after 68 pages, why are these detractors still following this thread up till now?

smh

[img]https://s0/images/MuttleyLaffsipsTea.gif[/img]
Creepy clowns out about all over the place.
Do not blame a clown for acting like a clown.
Blame yourself for going to the circus.
Smh as I sip my tea

OkCornel:
Just see people getting solutions to their problems or even acknowledging their challenges here.

But one old troll in his late 40s to 50s probably battling with midlife crises is just making a nuisance of himself here, alongside other detractors...

smh

Stop this already please... "See how this, and that" ... Be throwing jabs up and down . Would it do you any harm to ignore? Shish... After you'll say your plan is not to derail ... You no dey tire to go back and forth??

Ginalex:
Stop this already please... "See how this, and that" ... Be throwing jabs up and down . Would it do you any harm to ignore? Shish... After you'll say your plan is not to derail ... You no dey tire to go back and forth??

My dear, ignorance is the best answer for a fool.

If you insist I see them as one. I'll gladly oblige.

Although the people in question though do not deem it necessary to reply the bitter truth I stated. So it's all good.

I'm just wondering which of these Bible verses could be helpful in addressing this matter;

Proverbs 24 v 4-5;
4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

Ah...looking forward to more testimonies of deliverance on this thread.

Ginalex:
Stop this already please... "See how this, and that" ... Be throwing jabs up and down . Would it do you any harm to ignore? Shish... After you'll say your plan is not to derail ... You no dey tire to go back and forth??

"³This man’s name was Nabal, (i.e. the word "Nabal" there actually means ''fool'') and his wife, Abigail, was a sensible and beautiful woman. But Nabal, a descendant of Caleb, was crude and mean in all his dealings.
²³When Abigail saw David, she quickly got off the donkey, fell facedown, and bowed before him.
²⁴She fell at his feet and said, “My lord, may the blame be on me alone, but please let your servant speak to you; hear the words of your servant.
²⁵My lord should pay no attention to this worthless man Nabal, for he lives up to his name: His name means Fool, and folly accompanies him. I, your servant, did not see my lord’s young men whom you sent."
- 1 Samuel 25:3, 23-25

Everyone is a fool, I am a fool, we all are fools, but no one is a total, greater and bigger fool, if he/she can be silent, know when to hold and/or bite his/her tongue and swallow toxic jabbing words

My dear sister Ginalex, your beauty is a breath of fresh air. It's good to have and to behold. You are intelligent and beautiful. I dont doubt you're just as beautiful outside as you're beautiful in the heart. Do you know that immediately King David found out that the fool had died, he immediately sought out Abigail for her hand in marriage. Good things will sought after you. Amen IJN.

Everyone loves an intelligent woman, a woman of good understanding. Make no mistake about it, a virtuous woman, is an asset to the household. Such voice of reason, a person who influences others to act sensibly, are few and far in between, are rare. You have the spirit of an Abigail in you. God bless you at all points of your need(s) and answer all your urgent prayers asap. Amen IJN.

EnthronedbyGod:
We commanded every kingdom of darkness hindering the kick-start of the church to be closed down by fire.

After the prayers the pastor opened his eyes and smiled at me, I asked him why and he said, he saw hailstones of fire falling from heaven and burning a particular place.

He said as the burning was going on people there were running for their life.

I came under unction and told him, when the church will start and the location of the church.

Hi, there's something I want to confirm.

How can you tell if someone's issue is self inflicted by ignorance, as opposed to witchcraft manipulations, demonic attacks and the likes? (I know the default answer is Holy Spirit, Spirit of Discernment etc but people know this and still fall prey to fraudulent MOGs)

There are people who attribute their failures and backwardness in life to others, as opposed to taking self responsibility.

This is my major concern with matters of deliverance in Nigeria especially.

Unfortunately, there's also the part of fraudulent MOGs pouring fuel into such fires of ignorance.

You have any experiences to share in this regard?

EnthronedbyGod:

1- You have not really been of good conduct since you came to this thread and I still stood by you.

By me not being of good conduct in your thread you mean when I told you to talk less of satan and satanic activities and talk more about Christ and His activities? Or me calling Jesusjnr out in your thread is what you mean?

Did I do wrong by telling you you are delving too deep into satanism than you were into Christ?

Sir, was there anything else I did?

BTW, why aren't you exposing Christian Cults and their damning teachibgs that are hauling people into hellfire?

Or maybe you know that if you talk abt Christian Cults you'd step on Jesusjnr's toes?

EnthronedbyGod:

2- I read his threads and my stance was made known.

Your stance were made known where? How? Did you tell him he is wrong and she desist from them?
But here you are buddying up with him, a well known Proud and Arrogant heretic.

I remember someone quoting a scripture here wrongly to support praying naked in the midnight, you rebuked the sister harshly and in the spirit of humility she took it and even when what she does gives her results, she didn't fight you. Can you dare do that to Jesusjnr?

EnthronedbyGod:

3- Did the Holy Ghost tell you that Jesusjnr didn't see Jesus or was it your own assumption.
I know of a young lady that was deep in sin that Jesus appeared to and it led to her salvation.

Did the Holy Ghost tell you he did? Your sinner girl saw The Lord and changed. So, do you see any changes from your buddy Jesusjnr?
Do you see him letting go the evil spirit of pride from him?

Jesus cannot meet a man and leaves him as He met him. Do you see changes in the Proud and Self-Righteous Jesusjnr?

EnthronedbyGod:

4- You can say you don't hate him, but out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

Like I said, no shaking. However you perceive me sir, does not count. No be you dey validate. I no dey run my race dey look at someone.

You are free to open your door to a wolf whom you well know will eat up your Hens, I won't.

When Apstle Paul, (the same one that your disciple does not believe in) knew who Elymas was, he didn't rebuke anyone who tried to steer people clear from him, he himself rebuked Elymas and even called blindness on him.

But don't worry, keep encouraging the heretic to keep spreading his heresy, while you continue choking people with the Deep Things of Satan. which The Lord warned us against in Rev. 2.

EnthronedbyGod:

5- I don't agree with those teachings and I told you that before, I can't warn him, I can only counsel and if my counsel is rejected I'll mind my business. You don't force your opinion on anyone, it doesn't work that way.

Yes, I agree that you don't force your options on people. If you have counselled him and he rejected your counsel, and you know that what he is preaching is damaging to the weak and feable Christians, as a pastor that you say you are, you ought to steer clear from him, not bond up with them, else you'd be seen as collaborators. Which it's beginning to seem.

But here you are attacking people who are doing what you shd do.

Do you remember why the Council of Nicea (not sure of the spelling) was called? It was because of a man called 'Aria' who began spreading Heresy and came up with his own Doctrine that Jesus was not divine since He was born of a woman.

The Church didn't call Aria indoors and counsel him to stop his heresy, but after biting off their heads, they cowed and buddied up with him instead.
They didn't label people haters becos they called Aria out. The Church didn't warn or threaten people with curses for speaking against Aria or Sosthene the heretics. They were openly exposed then cast off from the Church.

Pls desist from subtly threatening people with curses because, except you'd invoke demons to carry out your threats, they won't work. That's because Jesus does not curse even the most wicked person, not to talk of his own. And no man can lay a curse of the redeemed. Ask Balaam.

EnthronedbyGod:

6- I only counseled you to be careful, cos you've been attacking him since you came to this thread. I pleaded with you to take your attacks to his thread.

You counselled me to be careful of what nau?
This is subtly threatening me Sir, and I don't fret under threats, because I know who blesses and who curses.
And, the reason i keep calling him out here is because you are indirectly giving him your right hand of fellowship as tho he is good to go as a preacher. You are giving him credibility as if he is genuine, yet you say you don't believe his doctrines. You are agreeing with him and warning people off him.

Sir, are Jesusjnr's doctrines scriptural? Can what he teaches edify and can they build up a challenged and down cast believer? Do you see his teachibgs giving hope to the hopeless? Can they instruct and direct a new believer rightly?
If not, why are you encouraging him?
Why are you threading people to stay off him?

Paul rebuked Elymas who like Jesusjnr your disciple, was using sorcery, mischief and subtleties to pervert the righteous gospel from getting to the Deputy, but when he was rebuked the Deputy received the True Gospel.

Why are you shielding Jesusjnr?

EnthronedbyGod:

What have you achieved with all your attack on him?
Has your attitude towards him been Christ-like?

I may not have changed him but anyone who wld fall into his errors wld have to check again with scriptures. Aside from you and OkCornel, who else do you see agreeing with that charlatan?

My attitudes are not Christ-Like, yours are abi? Shielding a heretic with damning doctirines is Christ-like to you?

Was Apostle Paul's attitude when he rebuked Peter Christ-like?
Was Peter's attitude when he told Simon the sorcery off Christ-like?

Was Apostle Paul's attitude towards Elymas Christ-like?

You said you have read through his threads, it's obvious you approve of his attitudes of insulting every single person who tried to correct him.

Do you approve of his self righteous pride, his arrogance, his deadly tongue, the spirit of strife, and haughtiness in him. He calls himself Jesus albeit jnr. All of these you see as Christ-like abi?

Right now OKcornel is buddying up with him too. I sense even him walking as tho on each shells arond him for fear of being bitten by Jesusjnr. He is very careful not to disagree with him so that he won't be called Satan's agent. Is this how disciples are made? Do you bully and blackmail people to agree with you? Is that Christ-like?

Anyone who operates like Jesusjnr is manipulative and that is a spirit of witchcraft. Why are you buddying up with Jesusjnr? Isn't it because you don't want him to call you a wizard?

EnthronedbyGod:

He has been of better conduct than you on this thread.

Yes, why not. because you agree with him nau. The only time you slightly disagreed with him, didn't you see how he slapped your face off? You went hiding and from then you support him and he went down.

If you doubt me, call him out on any error here and now and watch him insult you to Your face.

Didn't he almost call you fake from the beginning of this thread because you corrected him?

Sir, you dey fear Jesusjnr?

Jesusjnr, in your life here and in your grave, I am one person you can never dream of intimidate with your sorcery.

@EnthronedbyGod, I don't you and I don't know how long you been in Nairaland. But if you were here back in 2014, 15, 16 and 17, the battle here was to keep Christian kids from falling into atheism. But today it seems the atheists are letting up, but we have to content with Heretics and false teachers within us?

Now it's not for our kids to deny Christ, but receive false teachings? And you are telling me my attitudes of telling everyone to be mindful of Jesusjnr's teaching unChrist-Like. Are your's?

Lol...Jesus must have been teaching his Apostles the "deep things of Satan" whilst giving them tutorials on how demons should be handled.

OkCornel:
Ah...looking forward to more testimonies of deliverance on this thread.

Yes, when Christians gather it's Testimonies they ought to sharing not all the things about satan that goes on in this thread. No Testimonies in them.
Knowing the names of all the demons and what they do are not testimonies.

If we are indeed Children of Light, then let's talk about Light. Directing people using the scriptures to that Light.
Tell us how to live to keep these demons and their operations far away from us.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

We are of Light, let's share testimonies.

Anas09, hold and keep your peace, don't waste your breath, energy and time on the one, only and same person. I'll give you a lowdown on EnthronedbyGod, who liking and fancying the Apostolic title, put it upon himself and decided to be calling himself an "Apostle". Keep tab on your inbox, I should drop it in before end of business hours today. You don't know warris going on, so I will tell you warris going on and eventuarry after that you'll know.

OkCornel:
Lol...Jesus must have been teaching his Apostles the "deep things of Satan" whilst giving them tutorials on how demons should be handled.

Pls show where Jesus gave tutorials on how demons shd ve handled.

MuttleyLaff:
Anas09, hold and keep your peace, don't waste your breath, energy and time on the one, only and same person. I'll give you a lowdown on EnthronedbyGod, who liking and fancying the Apostolic title, put it upon himself and decided to be calling himself an "Apostle". Keep tab on your inbox, I should drop it in before end of business hours today. You don't know warris going on, so I will tell you warris going on and eventuarry after that you'll know.

Okay sir. lol.

Anas09:

Pls show where Jesus gave tutorials on how demons shd ve handled.

These ones should ring a bell.

1) This one does not go out except by prayers and fasting.

2) When a demon leaves his host and comes back to see the place it left empty, it comes back with 7 other demons stronger than itself, and the latter state of the host is worse than its former state.


Connect the dots and see why the jealous Pharisees accused Jesus of being in partnership with Belzeebub.

OkCornel:
Just see people getting solutions to their problems or even acknowledging their challenges here.

But one old troll in his late 40s to 50s probably battling with midlife crises is just making a nuisance of himself here, alongside other detractors...

I can't help but ask, after 68 pages, why are these detractors still following this thread up till now?


smh

Wow. I may have missed judged you. You're letting me down badly. This is one thing with holding people up.

I remember coming very hard on you when we bantered on tithes, but your calm and respectful attitude regardless of my harshness towards you made me commend you. But, what I'm seeing here is opposite of that person.

What the Bible says is true. Wrong association corrupts good manners. Your friendship with Jesusjnr maybe robbing off on you and it's very bad.
You now insult your elders? So if this said man is 50yrs, you wld gladly insult him and commend yourself for it? Didn't the Word you preach say the younger believers shd regard the elders as their parents?

1 Timothy 5:1-2 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;
The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.

Do you believe Jesusjnr's insultive attitudes are right hence you shd follow suit? Shouldn't you be the one to be emulated, why are you are emulating him?

You disappoint me to say the least

Anas09:

Wow. I may have missed judged you. You're letting me down badly. This is one thing with holding people up.

I remember coming very hard on you when we bantered on tithes, but your calm and respectful attitude regardless of my harshness towards you made me commend you. But, what I'm seeing here is opposite of that person.

What the Bible says is true. Wrong association corrupts good manners. Your friendship with Jesusjnr maybe robbing off on you and it's very bad.
You now insult your elders? So if this said man is 50yrs, you wld gladly insult him and commend yourself for it? Didn't the Word you preach say the younger believers shd regard the elders as their parents?

1 Timothy 5:1-2 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;
The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.

Do you believe Jesusjnr's insultive attitudes are right hence you shd follow suit? Shouldn't you be the one to be emulated, why are you are emulating him?

You disappoint me to say the least

My dear, is it Christlike to call another person a demonologist and a charlatan?
Jesus must have been wrong to also rebuke the Pharisees including people older than him.

Let's quit the double standards and pity party here please.

OkCornel:

My dear, is it Christlike to call another person a demonologist and a charlatan?

Why was the person called a demonologist and a charlatan?

OkCornel:

Jesus must have been wrong to also rebuke the Pharisees including people older than him.

Are you seriously justifying your actions? Do you know the difference rebuke and insult?
Rebuke is pointing at actions, while insults are targeted at persons and personalities.

So, you approve of Jesusjnr's insults here?

OkCornel:

Let's quit the double standards and pity party here please.

Who is pitying who?

I see. Carry on.

Anas09:

Why was the person called a demonologist and a charlatan?


Are you seriously justifying your actions? Do you know the difference rebuke and insult?
Rebuke is pointing at actions, while insults are targeted at persons and personalities.

So, you approve of Jesusjnr's insults here?

Who is pitying who?

I see. Carry on.

I don't approve insults here at all. And if you are taking my being blunt for insults, sorry about that.

But what I will never take here is hypocrisy and double standards.

You are fully aware of your padi's stance on homosexuality, I called him a homosexual apologist....but oh! I was calling him names which is "not Christlike" and all sorts.

But then calling EnthronedbyGod a demonologist and charlatan is very Christlike. Can you see the double standards here?


What I even find more embarrassing is this, how can one gain a sense of purpose by trolling and arguing with people far younger than you? Like seriously, is that how a supposed elder will earn respect?

It's so embarrassing the person is totally ignored as though he doesn't exist. Gosh! It's like me arguing with an O'Level student to prove what exactly?


As an elder, make your point and move on. Instead of bringing yourself so low to argue as if it's your mates you're arguing with. Jeez!



ABEG, IF ANYONE IS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS THREAD, HIT THE UNFOLLOW BUTTON AND MOVE ON. The OP is not begging or forcing anyone to follow this thread.

Anas09:

By me not being of good conduct in your thread you mean when I told you to talk less of satan and satanic activities and talk more about Christ and His activities? Or me calling Jesusjnr out in your thread is what you mean?

Did I do wrong by telling you you are delving too deep into satanism than you were into Christ?

Sir, was there anything else I did?

BTW, why aren't you exposing Christian Cults and their damning teachibgs that are hauling people into hellfire?

Or maybe you know that if you talk abt Christian Cults you'd step on Jesusjnr's toes?


Your stance were made known where? How? Did you tell him he is wrong and she desist from them?
But here you are buddying up with him, a well known Proud and Arrogant heretic.

I remember someone quoting a scripture here wrongly to support praying naked in the midnight, you rebuked the sister harshly and in the spirit of humility she took it and even when what she does gives her results, she didn't fight you. Can you dare do that to Jesusjnr?


Did the Holy Ghost tell you he did? Your sinner girl saw The Lord and changed. So, do you see any changes from your buddy Jesusjnr?
Do you see him letting go the evil spirit of pride from him?

Jesus cannot meet a man and leaves him as He met him. Do you see changes in the Proud and Self-Righteous Jesusjnr?


Like I said, no shaking. However you perceive me sir, does not count. No be you dey validate. I no dey run my race dey look at someone.

You are free to open your door to a wolf whom you well know will eat up your Hens, I won't.

When Apstle Paul, (the same one that your disciple does not believe in) knew who Elymas was, he didn't rebuke anyone who tried to steer people clear from him, he himself rebuked Elymas and even called blindness on him.

But don't worry, keep encouraging the heretic to keep spreading his heresy, while you continue choking people with the Deep Things of Satan. which The Lord warned us against in Rev. 2.


Yes, I agree that you don't force your options on people. If you have counselled him and he rejected your counsel, and you know that what he is preaching is damaging to the weak and feable Christians, as a pastor that you say you are, you ought to steer clear from him, not bond up with them, else you'd be seen as collaborators. Which it's beginning to seem.

But here you are attacking people who are doing what you shd do.

Do you remember why the Council of Nicea (not sure of the spelling) was called? It was because of a man called 'Aria' who began spreading Heresy and came up with his own Doctrine that Jesus was not divine since He was born of a woman.

The Church didn't call Aria indoors and counsel him to stop his heresy, but after biting off their heads, they cowed and buddied up with him instead.
They didn't label people haters becos they called Aria out. The Church didn't warn or threaten people with curses for speaking against Aria or Sosthene the heretics. They were openly exposed then cast off from the Church.

Pls desist from subtly threatening people with curses because, except you'd invoke demons to carry out your threats, they won't work. That's because Jesus does not curse even the most wicked person, not to talk of his own. And no man can lay a curse of the redeemed. Ask Balaam.


You counselled me to be careful of what nau?
This is subtly threatening me Sir, and I don't fret under threats, because I know who blesses and who curses.
And, the reason i keep calling him out here is because you are indirectly giving him your right hand of fellowship as tho he is good to go as a preacher. You are giving him credibility as if he is genuine, yet you say you don't believe his doctrines. You are agreeing with him and warning people off him.

Sir, are Jesusjnr's doctrines scriptural? Can what he teaches edify and can they build up a challenged and down cast believer? Do you see his teachibgs giving hope to the hopeless? Can they instruct and direct a new believer rightly?
If not, why are you encouraging him?
Why are you threading people to stay off him?

Paul rebuked Elymas who like Jesusjnr your disciple, was using sorcery, mischief and subtleties to pervert the righteous gospel from getting to the Deputy, but when he was rebuked the Deputy received the True Gospel.

Why are you shielding Jesusjnr?


I may not have changed him but anyone who wld fall into his errors wld have to check again with scriptures. Aside from you and OkCornel, who else do you see agreeing with that charlatan?

My attitudes are not Christ-Like, yours are abi? Shielding a heretic with damning doctirines is Christ-like to you?

Was Apostle Paul's attitude when he rebuked Peter Christ-like?
Was Peter's attitude when he told Simon the sorcery off Christ-like?

Was Apostle Paul's attitude towards Elymas Christ-like?

You said you have read through his threads, it's obvious you approve of his attitudes of insulting every single person who tried to correct him.

Do you approve of his self righteous pride, his arrogance, his deadly tongue, the spirit of strife, and haughtiness in him. He calls himself Jesus albeit jnr. All of these you see as Christ-like abi?

Right now OKcornel is buddying up with him too. I sense even him walking as tho on each shells arond him for fear of being bitten by Jesusjnr. He is very careful not to disagree with him so that he won't be called Satan's agent. Is this how disciples are made? Do you bully and blackmail people to agree with you? Is that Christ-like?

Anyone who operates like Jesusjnr is manipulative and that is a spirit of witchcraft. Why are you buddying up with Jesusjnr? Isn't it because you don't want him to call you a wizard?


Yes, why not. because you agree with him nau. The only time you slightly disagreed with him, didn't you see how he slapped your face off? You went hiding and from then you support him and he went down.

If you doubt me, call him out on any error here and now and watch him insult you to Your face.

Didn't he almost call you fake from the beginning of this thread because you corrected him?

Sir, you dey fear Jesusjnr?

Jesusjnr, in your life here and in your grave, I am one person you can never dream of intimidate with your sorcery.

@EnthronedbyGod, I don't you and I don't know how long you been in Nairaland. But if you were here back in 2014, 15, 16 and 17, the battle here was to keep Christian kids from falling into atheism. But today it seems the atheists are letting up, but we have to content with Heretics and false teachers within us?

Now it's not for our kids to deny Christ, but receive false teachings? And you are telling me my attitudes of telling everyone to be mindful of Jesusjnr's teaching unChrist-Like. Are your's?

I told you before and I tell you again now........the spirit of the I AM is upon you therefore....You are wise!!

I think I just need to clarify a few things here concerning the fuzz that has been made of the assumed picture of Jesus that I posted on this thread on the instruction of the op.

Now I think @EnthronedbyGod has to help us clarify something that has puzzled me even up til this very point, which is, what brought him to the thread where this picture of Jesus was first uploaded by @OkCornel for me to confirm if it was indeed the face of Jesus who appeared to me, because the topic of the thread had nothing to do with the appearance of Jesus.

And though I had plans to bring it to him later on to him to confirm if it was who he also saw, I was shocked to find him there all of a sudden, and I was like, no way?

At the same time I was anxious to find out what his thoughts were concerning those pictures, because I had already given my own opinion that it was the face which I saw briefly of Jesus, particularly the second one in that post.

I know that he was led of the Spirit of God to that thread at that point in time, but I would like to hear from him the details, because obviously it confirmed how those who are led by the Spirit hardly miss out on what God was doing.

That said, I never expected the very brief appearance of Jesus to me to have been verified to this extent, for i had already moved on from it. But It seemed God had other ideas, as I believe He was the one that led @OkCornel to yet press further on the matter to this end.

But some have ruled out the chances of that being the face of Jesus just because I said it was the face of Jesus I saw, unknown to them that Jesus appearing to me Is nothing compared to what I already had, for if it was by seeing Jesus, by now I would have seen Him possibly up to ten times or more. But it's just a bonus or an icing on the cake, even a mere formality as Jesus perhaps just thought to give me that privileged since it was about time, hence His appearance.

So as comforting as it was to finally get to see the face of my Master, it is honestly not such a big deal to me, that people would be breaking their heads over, for if they want it so desperately, they can have it, because it's nothing compared to what I have.

That's why even when I hadn't seen His face, I wasn't ashamed of it, because i knew the value of what I had, and that I wouldn't even trade it for the position of those who had seen His face then.

What I have is that good part, which no man can take away from me.

God bless.

OkCornel:

These ones should ring a bell.

1) This one does not go out except by prayers and fasting.

Are you sure you really know what tutorial is? lol.
It has to do with teaching, coaching with exercise. And it is external not internal.
Jesus told them to internally arm themselves before they venture to cast out a stubborn demon.
Did the Lord dramatize or give ways and manner in which demons shd be cast out? No

Let me help you here. Some churches use candles of different colours. Some wear their victim red or white clothes and bath them in the river with a special soap at a certain time of the night, Some use cocoanut water, some incense, some flog their victims with broom or other stuff, Some do certain assignments. These are activities they carry out on the ones they consider possessed by demons.
But. Did Jesus tech any of these techniques?
So which tutorial are you talking abt bring up that scripture?

OkCornel:

2) When a demon leaves his host and comes back to see the place it left empty, it comes back with 7 other demons stronger than itself, and the latter state of the host is worse than its former state.

Pls relate this with how this is demonology or deep things of Satan.
OKcornel, have you taken time to study what the Lord means by ['The Deep Things of Satan?'[/b]
I doubt it. because if you had, you'd discover that what is going on in this thread is what the Master warned against.

I asked you before you evaded it. When the Lord was on earth, was satan here too? Was he as active as he us today? Yes.
Was there one single time He gathered His Apostles (Inner Circle) to teach them about satan, his way, the names of demons, their levels, where they live, what they do, how to manipulate them? No.

All he did was teach them about His kingdom. He taught them things that if they obeyed satan will he under their feet. They didn't need to know satanic powers, all they needed was know what to do to overpower them.
He knew a time will come that folks like you wld want people to know so much abt satan hence be locked up in fear of satan. That's why he hid those things and says we shd leave them alone.

Speak Testimonies, not satanism

OkCornel:

Connect the dots and see why the jealous Pharisees accused Jesus of being in partnership with Belzeebub.

So, this is why you think Jesus was accused of being possessed by Belzeebub?
Yikes.
Wasn't it because he could cast off demons and set the Captives free?
Wasn't it because the ones born blind could see and the lame who had never walked walked? Was it not because the deaf and dump could hear and speak?

Was Be accused because He taught about satan? Are you serious?

Luke 11:14-15 And he was casting out a devil, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the devil was gone out, the dumb spake; and the people wondered.
But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils.

If na another person, EnthronedbyGod for rebuke an for using this scripture wrongly. But, I know he won't rebuke you.

I am yet to see the tutorials Jesus gave us about the secrets of satan.

Na so people dey take start demonic churches dey use Bible wrongly o.

You are trying to lie against Jesus, and say it's okay to do what even Him said you shd'nt

Anas09:

Are you sure you really know what tutorial is? lol.
It has to do with teaching, coaching with exercise. And it is external not internal.
Jesus told them to internally arm themselves before they venture to cast out a stubborn demon.
Did the Lord dramatize or give ways and manner in which demons shd be cast out? No

Let me help you here. Some churches use candles of different colours. Some wear their victim red or white clothes and bath them in the river with a special soap at a certain time of the night, Some use cocoanut water, some incense, some flog their victims with broom or other stuff, Some do certain assignments. These are activities they carry out on the ones they consider possessed by demons.
But. Did Jesus tech any of these techniques?
So which tutorial are you talking abt bring up that scripture?


Pls relate this with how this is demonology or deep things of Satan.
OKcornel, have you taken time to study what the Lord means by ['The Deep Things of Satan?'[/b]
I doubt it. because if you had, you'd discover that what is going on in this thread is what the Master warned against.

I asked you before you evaded it. When the Lord was on earth, was satan here too? Was he as active as he us today? Yes.
Was there one single time He gathered His Apostles (Inner Circle) to teach them about satan, his way, the names of demons, their levels, where they live, what they do, how to manipulate them? No.

All he did was teach them about His kingdom. He taught them things that if they obeyed satan will he under their feet. They didn't need to know satanic powers, all they needed was know what to do to overpower them.
He knew a time will come that folks like you wld want people to know so much abt satan hence be locked up in fear of satan. That's why he hid those things and says we shd leave them alone.

Speak Testimonies, not satanism


So, this is why you think Jesus was accused of being possessed by Belzeebub?
Yikes.
Wasn't it because he could cast off demons and set the Captives free?
Wasn't it because the ones born blind could see and the lame who had never walked walked? Was it not because the deaf and dump could hear and speak?

Was Be accused because He taught about satan? Are you serious?

Luke 11:14-15 And he was casting out a devil, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the devil was gone out, the dumb spake; and the people wondered.
But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils.

If na another person, EnthronedbyGod for rebuke an for using this scripture wrongly. But, I know he won't rebuke you.

I am yet to see the tutorials Jesus gave us about the secrets of satan.

Na so people dey take start demonic churches dey use Bible wrongly o.

You are trying to lie against Jesus, and say it's okay to do what even Him said you shd'nt

Okay ooo. When Jesus was teaching His disciples on certain things about demons, na tutorial be that one.


But as the OP is exposing the strategies of the Kingdom of darkness...na deep things of Satan e dey talk.

Maybe it was not the Holy Spirit that showed Kenneth Hagin, Morris Cerrulo, Dr. Rebecca Brown similar things. Na lying spirit dey show them those things.


Double standards.


Please also pretend as though no one is getting delivered from the wiles of the devil on this thread. Just wave off all the testimonies as lies.

I will re-echoe this.


The focus should be on the testimonies of victory over evil forces, rather than focus on what evil forces are capable of!

While the OP is doing a good work of bringing out the secrets of the kingdom of darkness to the open, believers take heed so fear will have no root in you. Don't go and develop a mindset on how powerful Satan is while you have something far more powerful within you and with you.


Colossians 2 v 8-10;

8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.

9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,

10 and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.



The kingdom of darkness must be exposed so believers will not repeat the mistakes of their forerunners in the church of Pergamos and Thyatira.

IGNORANCE AND NAIVETY IS NO EXCUSE.

The powers of the kingdom of darkness thrives on ignorance and fear.