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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by projectNDPRA: 1:22am On Aug 31, 2019
Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by XANDERBOY85: 1:35am On Aug 31, 2019
OlujobaSamuel:
I talk am, this deal was designed to steal fund.
I don't think a responsible company should be interested in the dirty politics of blame game a country chooses to play with themselves, what they should be after is their fund.
The statement by this company sounds more like that of a naija politician than a responsible company.
Alpha Beta sef no fit release this kind statement.

Wasn't it your minister of justice that opened his big mouth the other day and said words to the effect that the entire affair stinks of fraud...invariably saying P&ID is a fraudulent coy? They're only responding to his accusation!

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by InvertedHammer: 1:56am On Aug 31, 2019
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LOL.

Get all the SANs in Nigeria, none of them is competent enough to handle legal proceedings in an international court of competent jurisdiction. This is because they have stopped practicing law many years ago. They are only good at bribing judges to get favourable judgement.

Their certificates are only as good as the papers they are printed on. Ph.D in law from Nigeria? The lawyer is only as good as a "charge and bail" lawyer. Perhaps it is the dirty rugs they place on their heads. Nigeria is one place professionalism is incinerated on the altar of mediocrity.

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by buhariguy(m): 3:14am On Aug 31, 2019
Pavarottii:

Is like u can't read... Good luck made the money available for the government coming in to pay...
the ineffectual buffoon corrupt man that depleted foreign reserve from $45b to $25b. So where did he keep the money? Nonsense iPod

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by Abuleoshi: 3:15am On Aug 31, 2019
Pavarottii:

Is like u can't read... Good luck made the money available for the government coming in to pay...
Made which money available You think 850 million dollars is 850 Naira

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by buhariguy(m): 3:17am On Aug 31, 2019
XANDERBOY85:


Wasn't it your minister of justice that opened his big mouth the other day and said words to the effect that the entire affair stinks of fraud...invariably saying P&ID is a fraudulent coy? They're only responding to his accusation!
if they are not fraudulent like your ineffectual buffoon, where is the gas plant?
Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by planetx: 3:20am On Aug 31, 2019
This doesn't look like something written by a reputable international company, I see Nigerian English all over this write up.

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by ajl: 4:33am On Aug 31, 2019
The people in power do not know how things work in the West. They slacked and allowed a UK entity pursue the case in a UK court which will likely go their way.

Secondly, they had the option to agree to earlier proposition of over $900 million but again they slacked. It's like me getting my T-Mobile telephone service on contract and along the line decided to discontinue the service before the end of the contract. I am bound to pay a penalty. If I decide to ignore the required payment, the amount will increase. And if I choose to continue ignoring payment, the company can take me to court depending on amount involved. This of course will increase the amount I have to pay significantly. That's the way it individually, and generally.

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by NovusHomo(m): 4:42am On Aug 31, 2019
wirinet:
In all these grammar, I did not see what was sold or what was bought? No government will give away millions or dollars just because a piece of paper was signed. If so then government officials can just sell the country with a piece of paper and arbitration panel I London or Japan will just ratify it.
If this was done with a reasonable country, it will be seen as a declaration of war.


The PDP government of GEJ gave away millions of $s long as it benefitted it's top members. In fact, that government would have " sold" Nigeria had it won the 2015 election for president.

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by Teacher1776(m): 5:53am On Aug 31, 2019
helinues:
Completely absolved? Why didn't GEJ pay the money when it was $850m?

$850m for an invisible power plants??

So they expect a new incoming government still trying to recover the money looted by Pdp goons to start paying debts upon resuming office.

Btw P&ID cant stoop so low in blaming whose responsible or not as long they get their money.

Op is being mischievous as usual
When u inherit a government, u inherit both its assets and liabilities. Buhari was commissioning railway tracks and refurbished and upgraded airports and roads all over the place. some of them were over 90 % completion stage. But Buhari used them to shine.
This particular case is a contract gone soured. The New manGer is saying he wasn't involved when that contract was signed. hence it's none of his business.
So tell us, what exactly is his business? Just be wasting our money traveling abroad? Those of u with myopic thought fell for the blame game agenda and were even making excuses for his ineffectiveness. But the real people who understand how government work are here telling u it ought to be Buhari's responsibility, u are still here arguing blindly. Just like the quota attorney general and all u paid propaganda agents of this doomed administration.

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by wirinet(m): 6:09am On Aug 31, 2019
Khanben:


The Bakassi peninsula was given to Cameroon because a "bunch of papers were signed".
We have successively always voted in governments who are reactive rather than proactive. This government for some reason just added the 'blame it on the previous administration' to that regular playbook.
What scares me is that the way things work in Nigeria successive governments will continue to use this passing the blame tactics and the citizenry will continue to bicker amongst ourselves based on some sentimental, tribal or religious attachment.
I fear for our future.
No government in this world and I mean no government will pay that money. Countries pull out of agreements between countries, the worst will be breaking of diplomatic relations, not to talk of agreement between government officials ( not government ) and foreign individuals.

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by Alberttahir: 6:13am On Aug 31, 2019
$1billion to revive Ajaokuta steel company, we don't have but now we'll be forced to pay $9.6 billion to P&ID. what a country.

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by wirinet(m): 6:19am On Aug 31, 2019
Teacher1776:

When u inherit a government, u inherit both its assets and liabilities. Buhari was commissioning railway tracks and refurbished and upgraded airports and roads all over the place. some of them were over 90 % completion stage. But Buhari used them to shine.
This particular case is a contract gone soured. The New manGer is saying he wasn't involved when that contract was signed. hence it's none of his business.
So tell us, what exactly is his business? Just be wasting our money traveling abroad? Those of u with myopic thought fell for the blame game agenda and were even making excuses for his ineffectiveness. But the real people who understand how government work are here telling u it ought to be Buhari's responsibility, u are still here arguing blindly. Just like the quota attorney general and all u paid propaganda agents of this doomed administration.
Perpetual wailing over Jonathan's loss.

Only 90%, I thought it was 900% completed. So Amaechi was just dashing Chinese Railway Corporation billions of dollars for the same project to be completed.

There was no contract. It was only a scam by traitors to share our national treasury with foreigners. The so called contract did not pass through any contract process. There was no attempt by any party to execute a contract. How can you agree to pay for a 20 year profit for a business that had not even started? How can you calculate profit, when business has not stated? No equipment costs, no production costs, no running costs, no product even.

It's not Buhari's responsibility, it is the responsibility of the people that signed and negotiated the contract to find where they would find $9 billion to pay and unknown company.

Nigeria and Nigerians had won several court cases over the decades both in Nigerian and international courts ordering shell to pay several billions of dollars for oil spillages and unethical practices in Nigeria. The British government should deduct the fine from shells internation accounts and give us the rest.

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by tsdarkside(m): 6:26am On Aug 31, 2019
stormborn28:
our reserve should be around 40billion to 50billion dollars.. Incompetency is what has played out.. That is to tell you how our government handle things back home... I laughed... If you are lazy, it will definitely show some day... So I'm not surprise

it doesnt matter who is fault....

that is a crazy amount of money....

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by tsdarkside(m): 6:28am On Aug 31, 2019
Alberttahir:
$1billion to revive Ajaokuta steel company, we don't have but now we'll be forced to pay $9.6 billion to P&ID. what a country.

has anybody ever heared about that company before sef....??

me not....i dont remember hearin about that company before....something is very fishy here....
Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by tsdarkside(m): 6:31am On Aug 31, 2019
you nigerians shouldnt allow others to bully una around....

wetin they wan do....??....invade us....??
Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by DeGenius3(m): 6:31am On Aug 31, 2019
Buhari is the daftest human alive.

His entire crew are also intellectually stupid.

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by UncleJudax(m): 6:39am On Aug 31, 2019
OfoIgbo:
Foreigners can now see the depth of incompetence that the governance of Nigeria has assumed.
The level of the intelligence of Tinubu and Buhari and Abba Kyari and Malami is now laid bare.

People can now start seeing yet another reason why Igbos are now clamouring for Biafra. Who wants to be in the same country with morons?
They did their worse to destroy the international reputation of Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala. Thank God, she soared above all of them, and is well internationally feted wherever she goes.

They brought in a certificate forger as her replacement. Sharia judge as the Supreme Court supremo, of course after using ruse corruption situations to intimidate him out of office, the highly competent Onnoghen.
Now they have tried to use the corruption ruse to attack P&ID, unfortunately for them, it is not a Nigerian company, and the courts to deal with this issue are not within Buhari's reach, so the Onnoghen treatment will not work.

They brought in Fulani terrorists to be raping and killing indigenous peoples. haba

Now they have so incompetently landed Nigeria into a totally avoidable $9 billion dollars debt. What a collection of idiots

People can now see why even though I am not a member of IPOB, I won't be lifting my little finger in standing in their way, vis-a-vis this highly incompetent government
Lol. A country on a 25 billion dollar budget owing $9b grin

Ofcos there are other debts. Buhari go do him 8 years and you can go ffuck yourselves.

Make tribalism and religious bigotry come bail them out undecided

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by tsdarkside(m): 6:47am On Aug 31, 2019
grandstar:
This made very painful reading.

I'm sure if Buhari had negotiated with the company early on, they might have paid off the company with about $300m rather than the $850m.

A tough negotiator I'm sure could have extracted such a deal if they assured the company of immediate payment or confirm structured payments. The company would have preferred this rather than the seizing of elusive government owned assets worldwide.

A complete lack of professionalism was the Nigeria's undoing.

Buharist need to understand that no matter how much integrity a man has, it can not make up for his intellectual deficit.

forget about buhari for a moment and be angry for once....

you think we would jubilate if it was jonathan....??

its our money....dont be daft....

or is it buharis money....??

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by wirinet(m): 6:53am On Aug 31, 2019
mercyviv:
I find it funny and quite nauseating that the administration that purportedly signed the agreement and would not honour it for 4years could be absolved of ANY blames. Jonathan was in government when the agreement was sealed, was substantive president till 2015 and couldn't honour the agreement; all he found worthy to do was negotiate a whopping $850mil for something Nigeria stood to gain nothing from. And you expect an incoming administration of Buhari with the economic challenges that greeted his early days in office when almost every penny had been frittered away by the Jonathan regime, to busy himself settling that staggering amount of debt. I think the rightful thing to do at the moment is to find out was truly transpired while also renegotiating terms with the coy. Heads must role!
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I am against renegotiating anything. The whole project is useless to Nigeria. Build gas pipelines to where? If Nigeria need to build and process gas infrastructure, we know how to go about it. We do not lack gas to power our megre power stations at the moment. The best Buhari can do is compensate the company for any physical investment they have done in Nigeria after an independent appraisal. We don't have money to dash any foreigners with their Nigerian collaborators.
Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by Staro: 7:05am On Aug 31, 2019
You see am?
Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by Nobody: 7:18am On Aug 31, 2019
we all know the government is made of hardcore liars claiming to be anti corrupt

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by alezzy13: 7:44am On Aug 31, 2019
Khanben:


The Bakassi peninsula was given to Cameroon because a "bunch of papers were signed".
We have successively always voted in governments who are reactive rather than proactive. This government for some reason just added the 'blame it on the previous administration' to that regular playbook.
What scares me is that the way things work in Nigeria successive governments will continue to use this passing the blame tactics and the citizenry will continue to bicker amongst ourselves based on some sentimental, tribal or religious attachment.
I fear for our future.

Apples and oranges, sir. Yes It was just a piece of paper, but due process was followed. That we later regretted the action was of no consequence, hence the ICJ threw out our case.

1.In the case of PID, it's a clear case of fraud.
2.Deal worth almost a sixth of our budget did not pass thru FEC at that time, AS THE LAW PROVIDES.
3.Country's Second in command evidently did not know about it
4.Papers were allegedly smuggled to Saudi for a frail Yardua to sign. Allegations even abound that his signature was forged.
5.DUE PROCESS WAS NOT FOLLOWED.

Does it not seem just a tiny suspicious that PID would have loved PMB to quickly approve the 850m FOR DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING??
Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by alezzy13: 7:55am On Aug 31, 2019
grandstar:
This made very painful reading.

I'm sure if Buhari had negotiated with the company early on, they might have paid off the company with about $300m rather than the $850m.

A tough negotiator I'm sure could have extracted such a deal if they assured the company of immediate payment or confirm structured payments. The company would have preferred this rather than the seizing of elusive government owned assets worldwide.

A complete lack of professionalism was the Nigeria's undoing.

Buharist need to understand that no matter how much integrity a man has, it can not make up for his intellectual deficit.

Pay $300m for WHAT?? A deal that was fraudulent right from go?

That the second in command could openly claim he knew nothing about a deal of such humongous value is itself not an admission of fraud??

That your darling GEJ could not sort it out for the almost six years of his presidency is indicting enough but now push the blame to PMB is absolutely sickening

FYI, am not particularly a PMB fan, but let's try to be objective for once
Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by alezzy13: 7:56am On Aug 31, 2019
Splinz:


shocked
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And to cap it all, an inglorious administration with a stench veil of corruption fight.

Whether the coven of broom waving demons and men of gigantic corruption scales likes it or not, His Excellency, President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, is on a class of his own: an enviable height never to be attained by cow enthusiasts and men of little intellect not higher than Tacha's eyebrow.[/s]

Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by Reference(m): 8:16am On Aug 31, 2019
All parties are responsible, all governments since the saga started and I will dare say the mess started before the contract was agreed in the first place. The summary of it all is that we are paying the penalty for the way Nigeria is structured and the way the defective structure is operated.

My earnest desire is that government makes the cituzens of this country pay that bill in tbe most direct, brutal fashion possible so that the citizens can sit up and take notice about how this country is and how it is run. We are just too docile as Nigerians. These chaps in government do all manner of things on our behalf and we are essentially disinterested, naive, careless.

In the UK a contract of such magnitude (relative to budget, GDP, revenue, whatever) will be under severe scrutiny for months on end before approval and then it will be monitored day and night by all and sundry. Here even citizens will defend their pet governments secrecy on huge, humangous deals that have far and wide effects on their future prosperity or as in this case povrty. Hope we all learn from this when the dust settles.

Only God Almighty knows what this present government has signed off since 2015 that we may only discover when the mountainous bills come in say a decade from now.

Nigerians should learn to count their teeth with their tongues and hold government accountable or else.... Mr Goodluck Jonathan is alive and well. A panel of inquiry should be set up and he should tell us what he knows and what this mess is all about.

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by vedaxcool(m): 8:21am On Aug 31, 2019
Omooba77:


Keep your campaign promises; no one will complain. Katsina is under attack; Abuja -Kaduna road is no go area. Oye koju ko tiyin; face should push you or be ashamed of yourselves

Shameless human being look at what your P&ID contract by your accursed master of crookedness foisted on the country
https://www.nairaland.com/5390152/p-id-9bn-judgement-debt

May all those who support scam against Nigeria fall victim of such scam.
Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by Reference(m): 8:24am On Aug 31, 2019
alezzy13:


Pay $300m for WHAT?? A deal that was fraudulent right from go?

That the second in command could openly claim he knew nothing about a deal of such humongous value is itself not an admission of fraud??

That your darling GEJ could not sort it out for the almost six years of his presidency is indicting enough but now push the blame to PMB is absolutely sickening

FYI, am not particularly a PMB fan, but let's try to be objective for once






Whether a case is fraudulent or not when a court determines a case you are obliged to respond not to the case but to the court. You are not looking at the case you are looking at the law. This is common sense. Everyone was tardy about this case since 2015 typical of the black man. And all these are a result of a culture of impunity we have bred for decades.

We think it is Nigeria where government is not subject to law. When you practice this idea long enough it begins to reform your thinking and when serious tests arise you are bound to err. The antidote to this is to take the rule of law seriously IN ALL THINGS.

From where you sit do you know what this present government has signed off on. Was it not just yesterday the Finance Minister and the CBN were in fits over our debt position. I tell you if we donot hold government, all governments to serious account and close scrutiny we wil suffer severe pain.

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by Staro: 8:27am On Aug 31, 2019
alezzy13:


Pay $300m for WHAT?? A deal that was fraudulent right from go?

That the second in command could openly claim he knew nothing about a deal of such humongous value is itself not an admission of fraud??

That your darling GEJ could not sort it out for the almost six years of his presidency is indicting enough but now push the blame to PMB is absolutely sickening

FYI, am not particularly a PMB fan, but let's try to be objective for once




Oga, GEJ inherited that contract mess too but managed it responsibly, negotiating an out-of-court settlement of $850m in May, 2015 .... that's leadership!

See, Buhari lacks intelligence. I blame the people who foisted such inept leader on Nigeria.

Now, the principal actors in this deal (Yar'Adua and Rilwanu Lukman) are all late. Tell me, between $300m and $850m and $9.6b which is higher? Less I forget, I saw this on punch today


https://punchng.com/9-6bn-pid-can-seize-nigerias-assets-in-160-countries-say-experts/

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Re: Buhari, Not Jonathan To Be Blamed For $9bn Judgement Debt, Says P&ID by Staro: 8:33am On Aug 31, 2019
Osagyefo98:
This is a serious assault on the Rule of Law by a demonstrably dishonest administration.


Buhari taught it was Nigeria as usual.


Illiterate buffoon



Exactly

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