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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by Bbbwings: 10:00am On Sep 01, 2019
Students need to stop paying tithe.
Dependants that drink garri all day have no business fattening a pastor

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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by tonyimadu: 10:02am On Sep 01, 2019
Come oh..did Jesus collect first fruit from anyone?
Why is it not mentioned in the entire new testament?
The wealthiest and most successful on earth are not even Christians and do not believe in first fruit can you give your best examples of great people that practice this?

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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by omoowhe: 10:03am On Sep 01, 2019
Never knew I still have people that think like me....... Good one op

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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by boyency: 10:06am On Sep 01, 2019
Builderman:
Some years back, after a Sunday morning Mass in Abuja, a young and a good looking lady walked up to me. She was holding a fat brown envelope. She handed the envelope to me and said I should please pray for her.

I asked her about the content of the envelope and what particular intention would I be praying for?
She told me that she started working just a month ago and that she came to thank the Lord and to offer the first fruit of her work for God’s blessings.
What was in the envelope was her salary for that month. Her first salary. The entire money! Everything!.

In all honesty, I was speechless not for lack of words but for being unable to know where to begin. Inside me I was like: do people still entrust everything they have to God in a child-like simplicity like this? I was really moved.

In my heart, I said a prayer for her, that type of prayer that is deep down, it was as though it was the Holy Spirit Himself that was praying through me. I was feeling the answers to the prayers even before I finished praying.

Then she knelt down, I laid my hands upon her and blessed her and the money.

After prayers, I asked her to tell me how much was in the envelope. She said Eighty Thousand Naira.

Then I asked, “how much covers your transport to your work daily?”.

She said “approximately N1,000 naira to and fro, Father.” That means for 27 work days, it would be N27,000.

Then I spoke up again, “Sorry o, I am asking you too many questions, how much do you feed daily when you go to work?”.
She answered “It depends. If I want to eat so well, I spend 800 naira with drinks, but mainly I spend just N500, and sometimes I carry food from home.”

So, I made the calculation in my head. Let say she spends 500 naira daily, 27 work days would be 13,500 naira.
I went ahead to enquire about her accommodation and I discovered that she stayed alone in an apartment she just rented. We made the calculation by dividing the annual rent by 12 months and we discovered that if she was to pay rent monthly, it would be N12,500.

Her monthly electricity and water bill with other fees for house maintenance was put at N10,000....On phone calls and data, we approximated it to be N5000 monthly. Her monthly DSTV subscription was around N3,600 for DSTV family bouquet.

When you put all the expenses together and subtract it from the N80,000, she would be left with N8,400 to buy food stuffs and other things in the house.
These are the expenses that she wss sure to spend every month. We had not even talked about other things like make up, doing her hair, clothes, gifts to family and even savings.
This is a huge sacrifice, in my judgement. I intentionally asked her those questions so as to ascertain the depth of her sacrifice.

I brought out the envelope, bless it for the second time and gave it to her. I looked at her countenance and I knew she was not too comfortable with my action. Then I took time to explain the Bible to her. That was when I discovered that so many people do not truly understand how God works.

When God asks us for first fruit or for tithe or for any sacrifice, it is not so that He will eat it. No! He has no need of our money. When He asked Abraham to sacrifice his only son, it was not because he liked seeing the blood of innocent children.

When He asked Abel and Cain to make a sacrifice to Him, it was not because he ate fruit or even drank blood of rams. It is simply to test how committed we are, how willing are we to leave everything to Him. Do we, like Cain, select offerings that we no longer desire and give to Him or do we, like Abel, empty everything to Him?

This lady that brought the first fruit began to understand for the first time. Right from when she put the money in the envelope to bring to God, God had already accepted her offering. The minister must not spend the money. It is just that most of us ministers are unfortunately greedy. And we use God’s name to cover it up. We often see the part of scriptures that favour our stomach.*

Theologically, when you give to God, He transforms that gift and gives it back to you. The bread and wine people offer before mass are transformed to the body and blood of Christ and given back to the people to eat and drink.

The son Isaac that Abraham gave to God, was transformed to be a channel that would bring....forth the fulfillment of God’s promise and given back to Abraham.
The offerings of bread and fish people brought were prayed upon and given back to them to eat and they were filled, still there was left over.

The water they filled at the wedding in Cana is given back to them as wine..
The Ugwu Kelvin that my parents offered to God, is given back to them as a priest.

The money that the young lady brought to me as her first fruit is blessed and given back to her as pure gift from heaven.

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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by tonyimadu: 10:06am On Sep 01, 2019
I fear people like you who would be rude and violent in the name of religion. Well Christ died for people like you.
No true Christian would tell another to shut up on social media. It tells on your up bringing and show how shallow your understanding of the gospel is. God loves you. Repent
newsynews:


Will you shut up.

What do you know about Christianity? It's not about money yet the Bible says we should honor God with the first fruits of all our substance?

You guys will just sit in one corner and start misleading people with stupid talks. One would think you know everything about the Bible.

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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by pacino26(m): 10:10am On Sep 01, 2019
Table shakers.

Transubstantiation!!!

Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by Anijay1212(m): 10:16am On Sep 01, 2019
Kayceo2010:
Funny thing is that most of the people who commented before me never took out time to read the post.
And they've just jumped into conclusions..
Too bad..
We still have a long way to go seriously..
A very long way indeed.

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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by TooMuchStuff: 10:21am On Sep 01, 2019
Wow.
Just got one more spiritual secret revealed to me.
Thank you Rev Father Ugwu for this expository.

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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by fykes(m): 10:24am On Sep 01, 2019
UceeGod:
Na dem!
How does this move one closer to God? Genuine Christianity is not all about money.
U should do well to read. It will do u more good
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by Rolandonyi: 10:25am On Sep 01, 2019
Assuming say I dey go him church na bundle of Ugwu leaves I for give am as first fruit grin.

It will be accepted gladly because it is a gift to God Almighty and not man. Mind you, priests eat so ugwu is not an abomination!

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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by lomprico(m): 10:34am On Sep 01, 2019
I know was na catholic preaching be this. smiley

nice piece.
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by Mechatronix: 10:41am On Sep 01, 2019
Hakeem12:
The real question here is: “does the New Covenant require tithing, or do many Christians require it?” The New Testament teaches Cheerful Giving, but, unfortunately, many Christians still insist on tithing.

The problem with Christian Biblical interpretation is that one needs to take the Biblical passages in their textual and historical context. Much of the support for tithing comes from the Old Testament and the Old Mosaic Covenant, and the New Testament and the New Covenant. Malachi 3:8, is in the Old Covenant and applies to Mosaic Covenant Israel, not the New Covenant Church. In fact, there are only two or three references in the New Testament to tithing, and those passages refer to Christ rebuking the Jewish leaders for faithful tithing, while ignoring the most important things.

Many Christians take tithing out of context in other ways. Tithing was of agricultural produce and livestock. It was not of money. Tithing was to support the tribe of Levi, which could not have land of its own. Tithing was part of the Jewish tax system to support them and Temple worship. Tithing was also supposed to help the poor, not oppress them.

In the New Covenant, there is no tithing of the land. There is no Levitical priesthood. All Christians are priests. Neither the mode or need for tithing are relevant any more.


You nailed it brother. God bless you. You are indeed a Bible Student

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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by adedayourt(m): 10:44am On Sep 01, 2019
UceeGod:
Na dem!
How does this move one closer to God? Genuine Christianity is not all about money.


I bet u Beverly read d post. If u did u would have been cautious with ur choice of words
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by wman(m): 10:47am On Sep 01, 2019
newsynews:


Will you shut up.

What do you know about Christianity? It's not about money yet the Bible says we should honor God with the first fruits of all our substance?

You guys will just sit in one corner and start misleading people with stupid talks. One would think you know everything about the Bible.

That's rude. Especially for a Christian thread.

My understanding of the Bible verse you quoted is that we should honor God with the first fruit of all our increase.

So, we remove our Tithe first before every other thing.

Every money given to us each day is an increase to us.

Doesn't that mean that we take the tithe out of all income first?

How does that mean that we should pay First Fruit?
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by wasi9ice: 10:49am On Sep 01, 2019
This kind of massage is rear,, honestly
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by newsynews: 10:52am On Sep 01, 2019
tonyimadu:
I fear people like you who would be rude and violent in the name of religion. Well Christ died for people like you.
No true Christian would tell another to shut up on social media. It tells on your up bringing and show how shallow your understanding of the gospel is. God loves you. Repent

Any person who can't tell someone spreading falsehood to shut up is not a Christian.
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by k2money(m): 10:54am On Sep 01, 2019
God is not poor to ask for people money, he doesn't lack anything to ask you to donate something for him.
He said he love us more than how our parents love us.
If that is the case, will you say because your 2 years old child didn't give you small from the biscuit you gives her/she, you won't buy her what she ask from you anymore?

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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by k2money(m): 11:07am On Sep 01, 2019
k2money:


Shut your face,
The old testament is book of Judaism not Christian book.
And that time the food is serve to poor not to pastors.
You claiming to be Christian no nothing about Christianity �,
newsynews:


Will you shut up.

What do you know about Christianity? It's not about money yet the Bible says we should honor God with the first fruits of all our substance?

You guys will just sit in one corner and start misleading people with stupid talks. One would think you know everything about the Bible.

Shut your face,
The old testament is book of Judaism not Christian book.
And that time the food is serve to poor not to pastors.
You claiming to be Christian knows nothing about Christianity �,
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by kitaatita: 11:11am On Sep 01, 2019
Let me be elementary in my submission;
1). Does God need things to buy in the market and requires you to dash him money?
2). The money you use as your first fruit or whatever, were you the person who printed it? Is it your product?
3). After giving all your income as first fruit, will you borrow to survive? What does God say about usury?

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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by k2money(m): 11:12am On Sep 01, 2019
profolaolu:
I don't know about first fruit, but tithe is commended by Jesus

Na lie, that time Jesus spoke about tithe, if he go against the Jewish law they will prosecute him. And what tithe is uses for it was like a tax of the Moses time, they use it to help the poor. You are to eat it with your family and give the remaining to the poor not pastors
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by k2money(m): 11:16am On Sep 01, 2019
tonyimadu:
I fear people like you who would be rude and violent in the name of religion. Well Christ died for people like you.
No true Christian would tell another to shut up on social media. It tells on your up bringing and show how shallow your understanding of the gospel is. God loves you. Repent

Don't mind most of these people defending pastors.
It's either they are people or they are eating from pastors table.
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by Skseries: 11:35am On Sep 01, 2019
newsynews:


Will you shut up.

What do you know about Christianity? It's not about money yet the Bible says we should honor God with the first fruits of all our substance?

[b]You guys will just sit in one corner and start misleading people with stupid talks. One would think you know everything about the Bibl[/b]e.
oga u are doing the same thing u just complained about him. Am sure if ur pastor tells u to bring ur first son for sacrifice u will, afterall it's in the bible
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by Skseries: 11:40am On Sep 01, 2019
newsynews:


Will you shut up.

What do you know about Christianity? It's not about money yet the Bible says we should honor God with the first fruits of all our substance?

You guys will just sit in one corner and start misleading people with stupid talks. One would think you know everything about the Bible.
ppl like u can't give begger 500naira, nor give motherless home anything not even help ur fellow man. But u can carry ur first fruit to a pastor, ppl are dieing in hospital just because little as 50k but ur pastor who rides a private jets command first fruit and out of the little u earn u carry all ur money to him.. B4 u come and start shouting rubbish. I pay my tithe every month, but doesn't mean I will carry all my salary to a pastor. Black mentality oshi

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Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by newsynews: 11:42am On Sep 01, 2019
Skseries:
ppl like u can't give begger 500naira, nor give motherless home anything not even help ur fellow man. But u can carry ur first fruit to a pastor, ppl are dieing in hospital just because little as 50k but ur pastor who rides a private jets command first fruit and out of the little u earn u carry all ur money to him.. B4 u come and start shouting rubbish. I pay my tithe every month, but doesn't mean I will carry all my salary to a pastor. Black mentality oshi

Who told you my pastor flies a private jet? You sound like you know the color of boxers I'm putting on.
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by Skseries: 11:43am On Sep 01, 2019
newsynews:


Any person who can't tell someone spreading falsehood to shut up is not a Christian.
judgement day go come breeze go blow fowl yansh go open. Yeye
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by Nobody: 11:44am On Sep 01, 2019
Okk
I dey read am first
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by Skseries: 11:47am On Sep 01, 2019
newsynews:


Who told you my pastor flies a private jet? You sound like you know the color of boxers I'm putting on.
lol uncle, hypothetical speaking. I don't know ur pastor, I don't know u neither do I want to know either of u. Ur response just show u are filled with alot of anger and u assumed u are an island of Christianity knowledge... Keep fighting for Jesus u wey sabi Bible well..
Re: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by LadyExcellency: 12:05pm On Sep 01, 2019
God is not interested in those things.

Holiness and righteousness is God's demand from you.

Matthew 5:23-24
[23]Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
[24]Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

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